Here they go again....talking smack

[davi78239]

Found this on yahoo. 5 reasons to watch this years finals. Proof they're happy it wasn't Detroit vs. SA


2. A Hall of Famer is born
It seems likely that both Dirk Nowitzki and Dwyane Wade will one day be enshrined in Springfield, Mass., but one of the two will take a big step toward cementing that status early in his career with a NBA title. These are two dynamic scorers who are capable of taking over the game in countless ways and provide that old-fashioned "wow factor" people missed from the more recent champions, the fundamentally sound Pistons and Spurs.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

Total bull-crap. Sure the Spurs and Pistons aren't the real deal with the razzle dazzle, but they seriously want a team who sucks more than us and just got lucky because of the refs just because they got a foreigner tall frie who can shoot threes and a dunker that's constantly getting flus and sicknesses(No offense Dwayne Wade)? That is just plain ridiculous. Next thing Stern is gonna ban the idea of teams being focused on defense. Then people are gonna say "We would've won the championship, but people don't like defensive-minded teams, and we didn't wanna be hated."

[nbascribe]

:sleep

[Bob Lanier]

Lazy, irresponsible, and predictable.

"People"? WTF kind of weasel word is that? Of course, this is an editorial column.

[spurs=bling]

people have forgotten what team basketball is.

[greensborohill]

Dallas plays team ball, what are you talking about?

[strangeweather]

Dallas plays team ball, what are you talking about?
But people like this guy don't notice that part, because they see Dirk as monster scoring guy. Just like the Bulls played great team ball, but for superficial hype artists, it was all about Michael vs. everyone else.

[Winnipeg_Spur]

I'll give them Wade (although I think the premise is pretty stupid to begin with) but I don't think Nowitzki is that exciting a player. He takes the ball hard to the basket when he wants to, when he needs to, but overall he's still mostly a jump shooter (with good cause, cause that mofo can shoot :)), and I don't see why launching fade-away jumpers is so much more exciting than watching Duncan operate in the post, for example.

[Shank]

Total bull-crap. Sure the Spurs and Pistons aren't the real deal with the razzle dazzle, but they seriously want a team who sucks more than us and just got lucky because of the refs just because they got a foreigner tall frie who can shoot threes

Wow.

[jamezyjamez]

But people like this guy don't notice that part, because they see Dirk as monster scoring guy. Just like the Bulls played great team ball, but for superficial hype artists, it was all about Michael vs. everyone else.

Not awesome team ball like the Spurs who dump it to Duncan everytime and then get 3 spares to run between the 3-point lines for when he gets double-teamed. Now THAT is team ball! LOL!

Oh, and one guy who somehow got a good defensive rep and is now allowed to hold and not get a foul called.

[Trainwreck2100]

Not awesome team ball like the Spurs who dump it to Duncan everytime and then get 3 spares to run between the 3-point lines for when he gets double-teamed. Now THAT is team ball! LOL!

Oh, and one guy who somehow got a good defensive rep and is now allowed to hold and not get a foul called.


If 2 of those "spares" made the AST what does that make the Dallas leftovers

[jamezyjamez]

If 2 of those "spares" made the AST what does that make the Dallas leftovers

Western Conference Champs

[jamezyjamez]

Never said they didn't win, just saying that's not necessarily TEAM ball like people are claiming. All teams are built around stars, and if anything, the Spurs are more reliant on Duncan than, say the Mavs are on Dirk, or the Suns are on Amare.

[Trainwreck2100]

Western Conference Champs


If four of those "spares" have won the championship, and three have won it twice, what does that make the Dallas de trops

[jamezyjamez]

If four of those "spares" have won the championship, and three have won it twice, what does that make the Dallas de trops

HAHA. The thread was saying that nobody likes team ball anymore. Crappy Kenny Smith has a ring - do you think the champion Rockets played team ball?

A better question...who would you pick in a 7-game series between the Spurs and the Mavs if Tim Duncan and Dirk Nowitzki did not play?

Seems like the better TEAM would be able to be successful without its superstar.

[leemajors]

Never said they didn't win, just saying that's not necessarily TEAM ball like people are claiming. All teams are built around stars, and if anything, the Spurs are more reliant on Duncan than, say the Mavs are on Dirk, or the Suns are on Amare.

even though tim was severely limited by pf most of this season and the team still won 63 games, and the suns won 50+ games without amare. both teams relied heavily on other players. take dirk away and i don't think dallas wins 50. nice argument.

[Trainwreck2100]

A better question...who would you pick in a 7-game series between the Spurs and the Mavs if Tim Duncan and Dirk Nowitzki did not play?


The team with two All stars, and Bowen would only need to shut down Howard.

[leemajors]

HAHA. The thread was saying that nobody likes team ball anymore. Crappy Kenny Smith has a ring - do you think the champion Rockets played team ball?

A better question...who would you pick in a 7-game series between the Spurs and the Mavs if Tim Duncan and Dirk Nowitzki did not play?

Seems like the better TEAM would be able to be successful without its superstar.

you build a good team around a superstar. the rest of the team does not necessarily function well without the superstar.

[DDS4]

Spurs fans: refs refs refs blah blah blah

Mavs fans: We beat the Spurs! Western Conference champs! Scoreboard! blah blah blah

Repeat ad nauseam.

[jamezyjamez]

The team with two All stars, and Bowen would only need to shut down Howard.

And the Mavs wouldn't have to shut down anyone. And if the team is so reliable, why did they force the ball to Duncan at the end of Game 7 when he was tired and playing like crap?

Relying on Manu would be a good idea since he may be the only player to singlehandedly lose a Game 7 on his home court.

And Tony Parker can't make a shot longer than a layup.

That series would be a 4-0 Mavs sweep. It would be cool to see some of those AWESOME team players who NEVER EVEN SAW THE COURT in the series get to play. Must be a great TEAM to have a 6-man rotation in the playoffs.

[Leetonidas]

Never said they didn't win, just saying that's not necessarily TEAM ball like people are claiming. All teams are built around stars, and if anything, the Spurs are more reliant on Duncan than, say the Mavs are on Dirk, or the Suns are on Amare.

Are you kidding? If Dirk has a bad game, Mavs lose, period. If Amaré has a bad game, that spells bad trouble for the Suns (well, last year). But if Tim has a bad game, he commands so much attention in the post he can get everyone else involved.

Tim's game is about spreading the floor and swinging the ball to the open man. That's why it's team ball.

[spurs=bling]

Are you kidding? If Dirk has a bad game, Mavs lose, period. If Amaré has a bad game, that spells bad trouble for the Suns (well, last year). But if Tim has a bad game, he commands so much attention in the post he can get everyone else involved.

Tim's game is about spreading the floor and swinging the ball to the open man. That's why it's team ball.
very true

[Trainwreck2100]

And the Mavs wouldn't have to shut down anyone. And if the team is so reliable, why did they force the ball to Duncan at the end of Game 7 when he was tired and playing like crap?

Relying on Manu would be a good idea since he may be the only player to singlehandedly lose a Game 7 on his home court.

And Tony Parker can't make a shot longer than a layup.

That series would be a 4-0 Mavs sweep. It would be cool to see some of those AWESOME team players who NEVER EVEN SAW THE COURT in the series get to play. Must be a great TEAM to have a 6-man rotation in the playoffs.

That one bad choice Manu made, who did he foul, cause I thought we were talking which team was better without their star. The Spurs wouldn't have a mismatch to worry about and could put a 1st team all defensive defender on any one of the Mavs starters, and even though Manu made one bad choice, without him the Spurs don't have the title in 05, but you wouldn't know that, cause you didn't watch the Finals last year.

[jamezyjamez]

Are you kidding? If Dirk has a bad game, Mavs lose, period. If Amaré has a bad game, that spells bad trouble for the Suns (well, last year). But if Tim has a bad game, he commands so much attention in the post he can get everyone else involved.

Tim's game is about spreading the floor and swinging the ball to the open man. That's why it's team ball.

Very insightful. Give it to your superstar, he "commands attention" and passes to someone else. If that's team ball, then I guess everyone plays team ball.

[leemajors]

Very insightful. Give it to your superstar, he "commands attention" and passes to someone else. If that's team ball, then I guess everyone plays team ball.

passing the ball to an open teammate may be indicative of a team player playing team ball.

[jamezyjamez]

Even MJ? Seems like somewhere on this thread I read he wasn't a team player...but I think he passed to open teammates.

[Trainwreck2100]

Even MJ? Seems like somewhere on this thread I read he wasn't a team player...but I think he passed to open teammates.


Actually the poster who brought MJ up was talking about perception.

[Leetonidas]

Very insightful. Give it to your superstar, he "commands attention" and passes to someone else. If that's team ball, then I guess everyone plays team ball.

Gee, when he's setting screens and allowing Tony to get to the basket and dish to someone else, he's not doing shit right?

You want a perfect example of why Dallas ball isn't team ball? Weren't they close to the bottom is APG?

[Mavtek]

Gee, when he's setting screens and allowing Tony to get to the basket and dish to someone else, he's not doing shit right?

You want a perfect example of why Dallas ball isn't team ball? Weren't they close to the bottom is APG?

Assists isn't indicative necessarily to team ball. The Mavs offense is dependent on Iso's all over the court, few assists are needed when you have talent all over the court. We depend on swinging the ball after a double team to find an open man, if no double team occurs in the Iso we score. It's still team ball, it's hard not to call it team ball when you have 6 guys who averaged double figures through the season.

[Shank]

Gee, when he's setting screens and allowing Tony to get to the basket and dish to someone else, he's not doing shit right?

You want a perfect example of why Dallas ball isn't team ball? Weren't they close to the bottom is APG?

Not to split hairs, but there's roughly a 2-3 APG difference between SA and Dallas. Not exactly an astounding difference.

[Leetonidas]

All I'm saying is the Spurs don't have to be majorly dependent on Tim on the offense the way Dallas is with Dirk or the Suns and Amare.

For instance, arguably the only bad game Dirk has had came a few nights back. He was like 3/12 from the field and had like 11 points or something. Dallas got BLOWN OUT. Tim in Game 1 versus the Kings scored 15 (or was it something lower?) points and the Spurs totally annihiliated the Kings. Tim can create offense through seperation and spacing for everyone else. Dirk can't do that.

[Axl Van Dam]

:rolleyes Both players haven't won any hardware and they're already talking about Hall of Fame. What are these guys smoking??

[PM5K]

I don't want to hate, I mean the Mavs did get past us but Dirk has been in the league for eight years, and thus far I've never thought of him as a HOF player, maybe it's just me...

[East Coast Babe]

I don't want to hate, I mean the Mavs did get past us but Dirk has been in the league for eight years, and thus far I've never thought of him as a HOF player, maybe it's just me...

Dirk is definitely HOF material! The guy is tough as nails! When you think about it honestly, you know it too. He is one player evey team worries about!

[Amuseddaysleeper]

this season will have put dirk in the HoF it seems

[ponky]

:rolleyes Both players haven't won any hardware and they're already talking about Hall of Fame. What are these guys smoking??

You really wanna know how many hall of famers have never won a ring? Let's look at the latest guy inducted, Barkley...then there's Alex English, Dominique 'the human highlight" Dawkins, GEORGE 'the iceman" GERVIN, you know the SPUR!!!...shall I go on?


I don't want to hate, I mean the Mavs did get past us but Dirk has been in the league for eight years, and thus far I've never thought of him as a HOF player, maybe it's just me...

Yes, maybe it IS just you...

[Mavs_All_the_Way]

Here is another article:

Enjoy!

There's a strong buzz of excitement surrounding the NBA Finals, which is a drastic change from last season. Last year's Pistons-Spurs series was greeted with a yawn and a shrug by most basketball enthusiasts, but this year, even the casual fan is going to be tuned in when the opening tip goes up Thursday night.

We've got superstars, drama and a virtual toss-up of a matchup.

Here are 10 clear reasons the NBA Finals are going to be a blast. Feel free to use these, Letterman.

1. Shaq's Circus

The Finals have lacked Shaquille O'Neal's flair and been forced to rely on Rasheed Wallace for any spice. Now that he's back on stage, expect entertainment in the form of word play, proclamations and some reflection as he grows into an aging star.

He's the top human interest story because of his evolution over the past season, taking a backseat to a younger star in order to conserve his energy for this moment.

Because of how charismatic he is and how he relishes entertaining on the big stage, this should be quite the show.

2. Fueling the hype

What's a championship series without some juice? The league gets two top-notch promoters with O'Neal and Dallas owner Mark Cuban in the same series.

"It's all marketing. He understands marketing, and I understand marketing. So I don't let that get to me," O'Neal said of being taunted by Cuban as Shaq Albert, in reference to Bill Cosby's cartoon creation Fat Albert. "Cuban's one of my idols when it comes to business. Great guy. Got nothing bad to say about him."

That tune may change if Cuban finds something wrong with O'Neal's brute force around the basket and sends the league a videotape in protest. Cuban has managed to draw the ire of Tim Duncan, Mike D'Antoni, Shawn Marion and all of San Antonio thus far.

O'Neal: "He's one of the reasons it's going to be a great, great, classic Finals."

3. D-Wade

Can he win a ring before LeBron? Doing so would be key for Wade in the chase for being basketball's next icon. The rivalry between the two hasn't really started yet, but the likelihood of there being two better candidates for the throne once held by Michael Jordan isn't good.

It's not an unfriendly rivalry. James and Wade root for one another, but the fact is that the league's popularity contest comes down to them these days. Wade is the kind of guy who rises to meet every challenge and seems to excel in the spotlight, so sit back and watch him captivate the nation.

You know a few shots are set to go into the NBA time capsule.

4. Dirk

What more can you say about Dirk Nowitzki arriving as an NBA mega-star? He's got David Hasselhoff back in the American spotlight and the Last Center Left is giving him props.

"He's where the big-man game will be in four or five years," O'Neal said of Nowitzki. "When you talk about big men, it will be whether guys can play like Dirk or not -- stepping out, shooting the 3 with a mid-range game and a low-post game. He's the future. I'm actually going to let my kids watch his game."

That's pretty high praise, and proof that Nowitzki is the No. 1 target of the Heat, who will play him with Udonis Haslem first and see how that goes. Pat Riley is going to have to find ways to keep him from getting comfortable, while Dirk has to make sure he remains aggressive in going to the rim.

[George Gervin's Afro]

Western Conference Champs


3 time world champs

[NoMoneyDown]

Spurs fans: refs refs refs blah blah blah

Mavs fans: We beat the Spurs! Western Conference champs! Scoreboard! blah blah blah

Repeat ad nauseam.

Actually, you have the Spurs fans part right, but the Mavs fans is more like: We beat the Spurs! Western Conference champs! Scoreboard! Our ONE championship is better than your THREE! (*)

(*) Yes, they already feel as though they've won it all - multiple times.

[GrandeDavid]

If the pay was decent, I promise I'd take some of those sports journalism jobs. What a weak assertion, very misguiding and ignorant. Showed that the idiot owner of that baseless take did not watch last year's playoffs or Finals.

[strangeweather]

Yes, maybe it IS just you...
Dirk made a big leap this year. If he had never gotten any better than he had been the previous 2-3 years, he's an All-Star, but not HoF material. I don't see guys like Ray Allen or Jermaine O'Neal going to the Hall, and Dirk hadn't really separated himself up until now.

This year, he made a great case for the Hall. If he stays at this level and plays out his career, he goes.

[windboy226]

And the Mavs wouldn't have to shut down anyone. And if the team is so reliable, why did they force the ball to Duncan at the end of Game 7 when he was tired and playing like crap?

Relying on Manu would be a good idea since he may be the only player to singlehandedly lose a Game 7 on his home court.

And Tony Parker can't make a shot longer than a layup.

That series would be a 4-0 Mavs sweep. It would be cool to see some of those AWESOME team players who NEVER EVEN SAW THE COURT in the series get to play. Must be a great TEAM to have a 6-man rotation in the playoffs.

That's just dumb...Even without Duncan the Spurs have a pretty good team with Parker, Ginobilli, Finley and Bowen. I think fans on both sides(as evidenced in this thread) shortchange both teams. Mavs fans-just because we beat the Spurs this year doesn't mean we're lightyears ahead of them. They'll make moves to shore up their bench and be back challenging for the top spot in the West. As long as they have Duncan they'll always be title contenders. Spurs fans-we made the step to finally be able to compete with the best and got over the hump by beating the Spurs(in probably the best and closest series that I can remember). We beat the teams with the 1st, 3rd and 4th best records in the West to reach the finals. Out of all the teams I think we had the toughest road to the finals(vice-versa if the Spurs had won, they would of had the same). Honestly, I don't understand why it's so hard to give credit to both teams for being very, very good.

[strangeweather]

Even MJ? Seems like somewhere on this thread I read he wasn't a team player...but I think he passed to open teammates.
Early in his career, MJ wasn't necessarily a great team player, and had trouble trusting the guys around him and playing within a system. He got a lot better at it as he matured, and was playing great team ball by the time he was winning titles.

[TheSanityAnnex]

Lazy, irresponsible, and predictable.

"People"? WTF kind of weasel word is that? Of course, this is an editorial column.
"People", meaning, everyone who is not a Pistons or Spurs fans. I don't know why it was so hard for the fans of these teams to realize that last years finals were pretty damn boring, as the ratings proved.


But I must say, the Spurs team of this year was much more exciting to watch.







And to the original poster, give it up already. You lost. Stop bitching and enjoy fishing.

[Taking it to the Hole]

Never said they didn't win, just saying that's not necessarily TEAM ball like people are claiming. All teams are built around stars, and if anything, the Spurs are more reliant on Duncan than, say the Mavs are on Dirk, or the Suns are on Amare.



Since when is it a bad thing to rely on your franchise player? He's your money man, the guy your paying all those millions for, you might as well rely on him. And I don't think the Suns rely more on Amare, they rely on Nash more than anything. Last time I checked he was a two-time MVP, and the Suns won't be going anywhere without him, just like the Mavs wouldn't go anywhere without Dirk. Every team relys on their superstars and I don't think the Spurs have to feel bad for relying on Tim. He torched the whole Mavs team, noone could stop him and noone could stop Dirk. That is what superstars are there for.

[z0sa]

MJ once led the league in assists.

[himat]

This is just giving the Spurs and Pistons a chance to wade in the water and not be noticed next season, and come playoff time they can comeout and reak havoc. I don't know about the Spurs, but the Pistons play much better in the playoffs when they "shouldn't" win.

:drunk Still can't believe we'll have to hear this though. It's the (much better) San Antonio Spurs vs the NBA Champion Dallas Mavericks, or it's the (much better) Detroit Pistons vs the NBA Champion Miami Heat. :vomit:

[windboy226]

This is just giving the Spurs and Pistons a chance to wade in the water and not be noticed next season, and come playoff time they can comeout and reak havoc. I don't know about the Spurs, but the Pistons play much better in the playoffs when they "shouldn't" win.

:drunk Still can't believe we'll have to hear this though. It's the (much better) San Antonio Spurs vs the NBA Champion Dallas Mavericks, or it's the (much better) Detroit Pistons vs the NBA Champion Miami Heat. :vomit:

Man, even after your team stunk it up all playoffs you still think you're better than Miami and Dallas. As witnessed by the series Dallas and San Antonio are pretty evenly matched. I think it's pretty clear from your series that Miami is by far the better team. I can understand San Antonio fans who think they could have won this year because a bounce here or a break there it could have changed the outcome. But Detroit gets taken to 7 games by Cleveland and then gets dominated by Miami...yeah you've proved you're the better team.

[kalikot_boy_kr]

:elephant SPURS: we beat mavs many times....bla bla bla hahaha!
MAVS: we beat spurs bla bla bla ( just only once.. hahahha)

[himat]

Man, even after your team stunk it up all playoffs you still think you're better than Miami and Dallas. As witnessed by the series Dallas and San Antonio are pretty evenly matched. I think it's pretty clear from your series that Miami is by far the better team. I can understand San Antonio fans who think they could have won this year because a bounce here or a break there it could have changed the outcome. But Detroit gets taken to 7 games by Cleveland and then gets dominated by Miami...yeah you've proved you're the better team.

Dallas has accomplished nothing in it's franchise until now. Hell yeah I think Detroit is the better team except they didn't play better. I gaurantee you majority of people would think Detroit is better than Miami and Dallas, but they just played bad in the playoffs. Except for maybe you Maverick trolls.

[kalikot_boy_kr]

thats why...suck the mavs! hahahha!!!!

[sabar]

Don't play a team game? Timmy did sub-par the entire season and scored some of his lowest in all categories. San Antonio still managed to grab the best win percentage by the team to date. Dirk goes for 11 points and Dallas falls apart. That's an extreme example though and Dallas can do pretty well with a poor shooting Dirk. They're both focused on their team mates. Until Tim and Dirk are scoring 30+ points consistently while playing full minutes and getting no assists, you can't say they don't play team ball.

[windboy226]

Dallas has accomplished nothing in it's franchise until now. Hell yeah I think Detroit is the better team except they didn't play better. I gaurantee you majority of people would think Detroit is better than Miami and Dallas, but they just played bad in the playoffs. Except for maybe you Maverick trolls.

Not a troll but I guess that's your one fallback when you have no argument...and this is about who the better team is this year. THIS year the Heat, Mavs, and Spurs are all better than the Pistons. And I would bet you most objective Spurs fans think Dallas is better than the Pistons. One other thing...if your team plays badly throughout the playoffs it's not a championship team.

[himat]

Not a troll but I guess that's your one fallback when you have no argument...and this is about who the better team is this year. THIS year the Heat, Mavs, and Spurs are all better than the Pistons. And I would bet you most objective Spurs fans think Dallas is better than the Pistons. One other thing...if your team plays badly throughout the playoffs it's not a championship team.


:blah :blah :blah . I still think the Pistons are better they just played horrible at the end. All those minutes for our starters caught up with us and next season Flip better play the bench or we'll find the Pistons in the same situation next year. Maybe Dallas has played the best this season, but I bet you most fans would take the Pistons over the Mavs if they wanted a team. I don't know for sure though.

[windboy226]

I know I wouldn't and I don't think most Mavs fans would either. We have a really young team with a superstar about to reach his prime. The only young player in your starting 5 is Prince(who is really good). That's an interesting question though-I wonder who Spurs fans would take for the future- the Pistons or the Mavs? I would take the Spurs before the Pistons too...mainly because of Duncan. The Pistons are great at D but they don't have that one go-to guy like most championship teams have(outside of your team the year you won).

[himat]

I know I wouldn't and I don't think most Mavs fans would either. We have a really young team with a superstar about to reach his prime. The only young player in your starting 5 is Prince(who is really good). That's an interesting question though-I wonder who Spurs fans would take for the future- the Pistons or the Mavs? I would take the Spurs before the Pistons too...mainly because of Duncan. The Pistons are great at D but they don't have that one go-to guy like most championship teams have(outside of your team the year you won).

Well the Pistons should be in the position that they like to be in with not too many people being slappy about them. They better of learned there lesson now. They're so good, but they're so damn cocky. It's bit em right in the ass 2 straight years and they better put there knife right on the opponents throat every time. If we moved the ball than that go to guy thing wouldn't matter, but every guy on our team wanted to put their team on their shoulders and they had no chemistry no shots were falling. I'm hoping next season the starters play less than 30 mpg and the bench develops. Than the Pistons should be able to be ready for the playoffs.

[ndnjumpman]

Are you kidding? If Dirk has a bad game, Mavs lose, period. If Amaré has a bad game, that spells bad trouble for the Suns (well, last year). But if Tim has a bad game, he commands so much attention in the post he can get everyone else involved.

Tim's game is about spreading the floor and swinging the ball to the open man. That's why it's team ball.


i hope you saw tonights game when dirk choked and still won...

[Mavs_All_the_Way]

i hope you saw tonights game when dirk choked and still won...

Now imagine when he is at the top of his game which is bound to happen soon..

[RonMexico]

Found this on yahoo. 5 reasons to watch this years finals. Proof they're happy it wasn't Detroit vs. SA


2. A Hall of Famer is born
It seems likely that both Dirk Nowitzki and Dwyane Wade will one day be enshrined in Springfield, Mass., but one of the two will take a big step toward cementing that status early in his career with a NBA title. These are two dynamic scorers who are capable of taking over the game in countless ways and provide that old-fashioned "wow factor" people missed from the more recent champions, the fundamentally sound Pistons and Spurs.


Ok, I'll give it to D-Wade because he does make some moves where I just shake my head...

But, I remember Robert Horry and Ginobili producing several "wows" in last year's Finals - Game 5 performance = historic... Ginobili dunk late in Game 7 - impressive...

Only "wow" Dirk elicits from me is: "Wow, he's at the free throw line again..."

[windboy226]

Ok, I'll give it to D-Wade because he does make some moves where I just shake my head...

But, I remember Robert Horry and Ginobili producing several "wows" in last year's Finals - Game 5 performance = historic... Ginobili dunk late in Game 7 - impressive...

Only "wow" Dirk elicits from me is: "Wow, he's at the free throw line again..."

True...but there are plenty of jumpshots where I just shake my head and wonder how he made it. He has probably one of the prettiest jumpshots in the NBA and the ball just seems to cut through the net.