Here they go again....talking smack

[davi78239]

Found this on yahoo. 5 reasons to watch this years finals. Proof they're happy it wasn't Detroit vs. SA


2. A Hall of Famer is born
It seems likely that both Dirk Nowitzki and Dwyane Wade will one day be enshrined in Springfield, Mass., but one of the two will take a big step toward cementing that status early in his career with a NBA le. These are two dynamic scorers who are capable of taking over the game in countless ways and provide that old-fashioned "wow factor" people missed from the more recent champions, the fundamentally sound Pistons and Spurs.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

Total bull-crap. Sure the Spurs and Pistons aren't the real deal with the razzle dazzle, but they seriously want a team who sucks more than us and just got lucky because of the refs just because they got a foreigner tall frie who can shoot threes and a dunker that's constantly getting flus and sicknesses(No offense Dwayne Wade)? That is just plain ridiculous. Next thing Stern is gonna ban the idea of teams being focused on defense. Then people are gonna say "We would've won the championship, but people don't like defensive-minded teams, and we didn't wanna be hated."

[nbascribe]

[Bob Lanier]

Lazy, irresponsible, and predictable.

"People"? WTF kind of weasel word is that? Of course, this is an editorial column.

[spurs=bling]

people have forgotten what team basketball is.

[greensborohill]

Dallas plays team ball, what are you talking about?

[strangeweather]

Dallas plays team ball, what are you talking about?

But people like this guy don't notice that part, because they see Dirk as monster scoring guy. Just like the Bulls played great team ball, but for superficial hype artists, it was all about Michael vs. everyone else.

[Winnipeg_Spur]

I'll give them Wade (although I think the premise is pretty stupid to begin with) but I don't think Nowitzki is that exciting a player. He takes the ball hard to the basket when he wants to, when he needs to, but overall he's still mostly a jump shooter (with good cause, cause that mofo can shoot ), and I don't see why launching fade-away jumpers is so much more exciting than watching Duncan operate in the post, for example.

[Shank]

Total bull-crap. Sure the Spurs and Pistons aren't the real deal with the razzle dazzle, but they seriously want a team who sucks more than us and just got lucky because of the refs just because they got a foreigner tall frie who can shoot threes

Wow.

[jamezyjamez]

But people like this guy don't notice that part, because they see Dirk as monster scoring guy. Just like the Bulls played great team ball, but for superficial hype artists, it was all about Michael vs. everyone else.

Not awesome team ball like the Spurs who dump it to Duncan everytime and then get 3 spares to run between the 3-point lines for when he gets double-teamed. Now THAT is team ball! LOL!

Oh, and one guy who somehow got a good defensive rep and is now allowed to hold and not get a foul called.

[Trainwreck2100]

Not awesome team ball like the Spurs who dump it to Duncan everytime and then get 3 spares to run between the 3-point lines for when he gets double-teamed. Now THAT is team ball! LOL!

Oh, and one guy who somehow got a good defensive rep and is now allowed to hold and not get a foul called.

If 2 of those "spares" made the AST what does that make the Dallas leftovers

[jamezyjamez]

If 2 of those "spares" made the AST what does that make the Dallas leftovers

Western Conference Champs

[jamezyjamez]

Never said they didn't win, just saying that's not necessarily TEAM ball like people are claiming. All teams are built around stars, and if anything, the Spurs are more reliant on Duncan than, say the Mavs are on Dirk, or the Suns are on Amare.

[Trainwreck2100]

Western Conference Champs

If four of those "spares" have won the championship, and three have won it twice, what does that make the Dallas de trops

[jamezyjamez]

If four of those "spares" have won the championship, and three have won it twice, what does that make the Dallas de trops

HAHA. The thread was saying that nobody likes team ball anymore. Crappy Kenny Smith has a ring - do you think the champion Rockets played team ball?

A better question...who would you pick in a 7-game series between the Spurs and the Mavs if Tim Duncan and Dirk Nowitzki did not play?

Seems like the better TEAM would be able to be successful without its superstar.

[leemajors]

Never said they didn't win, just saying that's not necessarily TEAM ball like people are claiming. All teams are built around stars, and if anything, the Spurs are more reliant on Duncan than, say the Mavs are on Dirk, or the Suns are on Amare.

even though tim was severely limited by pf most of this season and the team still won 63 games, and the suns won 50+ games without amare. both teams relied heavily on other players. take dirk away and i don't think dallas wins 50. nice argument.

[Trainwreck2100]

A better question...who would you pick in a 7-game series between the Spurs and the Mavs if Tim Duncan and Dirk Nowitzki did not play?

The team with two All stars, and Bowen would only need to shut down Howard.

[leemajors]

HAHA. The thread was saying that nobody likes team ball anymore. Crappy Kenny Smith has a ring - do you think the champion Rockets played team ball?

A better question...who would you pick in a 7-game series between the Spurs and the Mavs if Tim Duncan and Dirk Nowitzki did not play?

Seems like the better TEAM would be able to be successful without its superstar.

you build a good team around a superstar. the rest of the team does not necessarily function well without the superstar.

[DDS4]

Spurs fans: refs refs refs blah blah blah

Mavs fans: We beat the Spurs! Western Conference champs! Scoreboard! blah blah blah

Repeat ad nauseam.

[jamezyjamez]

The team with two All stars, and Bowen would only need to shut down Howard.

And the Mavs wouldn't have to shut down anyone. And if the team is so reliable, why did they force the ball to Duncan at the end of Game 7 when he was tired and playing like crap?

Relying on Manu would be a good idea since he may be the only player to singlehandedly lose a Game 7 on his home court.

And Tony Parker can't make a shot longer than a layup.

That series would be a 4-0 Mavs sweep. It would be cool to see some of those AWESOME team players who NEVER EVEN SAW THE COURT in the series get to play. Must be a great TEAM to have a 6-man rotation in the playoffs.

[Leetonidas]

Never said they didn't win, just saying that's not necessarily TEAM ball like people are claiming. All teams are built around stars, and if anything, the Spurs are more reliant on Duncan than, say the Mavs are on Dirk, or the Suns are on Amare.

Are you kidding? If Dirk has a bad game, Mavs lose, period. If Amaré has a bad game, that spells bad trouble for the Suns (well, last year). But if Tim has a bad game, he commands so much attention in the post he can get everyone else involved.

Tim's game is about spreading the floor and swinging the ball to the open man. That's why it's team ball.

[spurs=bling]

Are you kidding? If Dirk has a bad game, Mavs lose, period. If Amaré has a bad game, that spells bad trouble for the Suns (well, last year). But if Tim has a bad game, he commands so much attention in the post he can get everyone else involved.

Tim's game is about spreading the floor and swinging the ball to the open man. That's why it's team ball.

very true

[Trainwreck2100]

And the Mavs wouldn't have to shut down anyone. And if the team is so reliable, why did they force the ball to Duncan at the end of Game 7 when he was tired and playing like crap?

Relying on Manu would be a good idea since he may be the only player to singlehandedly lose a Game 7 on his home court.

And Tony Parker can't make a shot longer than a layup.

That series would be a 4-0 Mavs sweep. It would be cool to see some of those AWESOME team players who NEVER EVEN SAW THE COURT in the series get to play. Must be a great TEAM to have a 6-man rotation in the playoffs.

That one bad choice Manu made, who did he foul, cause I thought we were talking which team was better without their star. The Spurs wouldn't have a mismatch to worry about and could put a 1st team all defensive defender on any one of the Mavs starters, and even though Manu made one bad choice, without him the Spurs don't have the le in 05, but you wouldn't know that, cause you didn't watch the Finals last year.

[jamezyjamez]

Are you kidding? If Dirk has a bad game, Mavs lose, period. If Amaré has a bad game, that spells bad trouble for the Suns (well, last year). But if Tim has a bad game, he commands so much attention in the post he can get everyone else involved.

Tim's game is about spreading the floor and swinging the ball to the open man. That's why it's team ball.

Very insightful. Give it to your superstar, he "commands attention" and passes to someone else. If that's team ball, then I guess everyone plays team ball.

[leemajors]

Very insightful. Give it to your superstar, he "commands attention" and passes to someone else. If that's team ball, then I guess everyone plays team ball.

passing the ball to an open teammate may be indicative of a team player playing team ball.