More Javtokas video

[picnroll]

Courtesy of another poster at anohter site.

link (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTsnMFr7-g0&search=javtokas)

[SPARKY]

Man, I hope he dunks on Radoslav 10 times a day in practice...and then goes out and gets 10 boards a night.

[picnroll]

Nice intensity. Can't see how he won't be a better defender than Nazr. Too bad he has no outside shot.

[SPARKY]

Nice intensity. Can't see how he won't be a better defender than Nazr. Too bad he has no outside shot.

Well, he nailed one from the top of the key in that montage. You never know...

[Extra Stout]

Very athletic, has the potential to be a very good defender, very limited offensively outside the low post.

Much more aggressive then Rasho, and much less clumsy than Nazr, even with his body sewn back together.

[Texas_Ranger]

Nice!!

[themvp]

That should all players with 6-10 or higher do!

[sa_butta]

Nice video. Looks like he has a good low post presence on both ends of the floor. And its good to see a 7 footer throwing it down with some authority. I dont care if he doesnt have too much of an outstide shot if his low post game is that good.

[Mr. Body]

One thing all of us will like... he's going to dunk everything in sight and go after every blocked shot...

[SPARKY]

If Javtokas does join the team this summer and is good enough to start, then the Spurs will have gotten their point and center out of the same draft.

[velik_m]

Man, I hope he dunks on Radoslav 10 times a day in practice...and then goes out and gets 10 boards a night.

i would prefer he dunks on opponents, not just on Rasho in practice...
:angel

[Spurs Dynasty 21]

is he going to sign with the Spurs?



what's the update?

[DFW Spurs]

As for comparisons, he reminds me of Carlos Boozer when he played for the Cavs.

[waly.mg]

Nice intensity. Can't see how he won't be a better defender than Nazr. Too bad he has no outside shot.

Not has a FT shot, with only 41%, less than Shaq

But With the MLE and the LLE: Aproximately 6.6 Million, we can sign Both, Javtokas and Scola, with more than 3 millions each one, less than the Contract then Nazr Mohammed is Wanting

[Extra Stout]

Javtokas + Scola >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nazr.

Bye Nazr. Have fun in Chicago.

[Bruno]

Too bad he has no outside shot.

I don't know if his outside shoot is really that bad.
In 04-05 he was 6-24 from euro 3 point line.
In 05-06 he was 3-17 from euro 3 point line.

he isn't a jumpshooter but maybe with some work with chip, he will be able to hit 16-18 ft jumpshoots. However, he needs to work on his FT.

[velik_m]

I don't know if his outside shoot is really that bad.
In 04-05 he was 6-24 from euro 3 point line.
In 05-06 he was 3-17 from euro 3 point line.

he isn't a jumpshooter but maybe with some work with chip, he will be able to hit 16-18 jumpshoots. However, he needs to work on his FT.

yeah he's not a good jumpshooter, but his shot mechanics didn't look that bad - certanly an area he can improve.

[Spurs Dynasty 21]

As for comparisons, he reminds me of Carlos Boozer when he played for the Cavs.




You do know Boozer was actually pretty good and still is



I hope we sign him

[waly.mg]

Yes, but TD finished the season with 2/5 3FG: 40% and he´s not a good 3 Point shooter

If you shoot 3 of 17 (17.6%) form the 3 Point line (6.25 m in FIBA : NBA is 7.25 m) you are not a bad shooter, You are Stupid

If with this % Javtokas throw only one 3 Pointer, Pop is gonna Kill Him

[Spurologist]

10 Things learned from the video

1. He can dunk
2. Is the Euro rim height shorter than the nba because that one dunk was nasty
3. He can block shots. Didn't know that
4. How would he do in a set offense.
5. Does he have essential post up moves that could make him effective in the nba. Baby hook/spin move/drop step/turnaround jumper?
6. Seems to have good speed for a 5 man. That could attribute to good footwork.
7. Has great passion for the game.
8. One jumper the whole video? Hope that is a hidden talent
9. I need to buy me one of those euro basketballs
10. Sign him up

[rayray2k8]

i would prefer he dunks on opponents, not just on Rasho in practice...
:angel
:lol

[Taco]

i feel better already

[Bruno]

Yes, but TD finished the season with 2/5 3FG: 40% and he´s not a good 3 Point shooter

If you shoot 3 of 17 (17.6%) form the 3 Point line (6.25 m in FIBA : NBA is 7.25 m) you are not a bad shooter, You are Stupid

If with this % Javtokas throw only one 3 Pointer, Pop is gonna Kill Him

I don't say Javtovkas will shot 3's.
If he can shoot some 16-18 ft jumpshoots at 35-40% like Rasho, it will be great.

[davi78239]

Damn!!!! That's all I have to say about that! This guy looks like he can come in and make a sudden impact like Tony and Manu. I sure hope Spurs can sign him up this summer.

[strangeweather]

I don't say Javtovkas will shot 3's.
If he can shoot some 16-18 ft jumpshoots at 35-40% like Rasho, it will be great.
Especially if he'll look for his shot more than Rasho does, and be an active part of the offense. :tu

[downinhtown]

http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/9778/javr_ryt.jpg

[leemajors]

Especially if he'll look for his shot more than Rasho does, and be an active part of the offense. :tu

as long as he can rebound, influence shots, and set good screens and picks, any offense he does provide is gravy. especially if he is effective against quicker 4's on the defensive end.

[strangeweather]

as long as he can rebound, influence shots, and set good screens and picks, any offense he does provide is gravy. especially if he is effective against quicker 4's on the defensive end.
You're right -- that would be a total win right there. Maybe I'm just being too eager to skip ahead to the gravy.

[texasqb2]

Its hard to tell from the video, but just imagine this guy before that injury. His athleticsm reminds me of 5-0.

I am excited about him and Scola.

[SPARKY]

You cannot teach instinct and aggression. Javtokas has that. Radoslav? Not so much. The Spurs could use a big alongside TD whose first thought every time he gets the rock in the paint is about putting someone through the rim.

[SPARKY]

I'm feeling some screen rolls with TP and Javtokas. There should be a few highlights next season...and a better final outcome.

[infinite styles]

He had more dunks in that video than Rasho's had in his entire career! Sign him up! lol

[Solid D]

Nice link, picnroll.

[timvp]

Which of the highlights were pre-injury? I'm guessing that one where he flew over that guy and finished with one hand was probably before the motorcycle.

Nice video, though. I'd like the Spurs to sign him up. He looks to be pretty good. The best news I've heard about him is that Israel teams wants him ... and they don't mess around there. They go after and often get the best players in Europe.

[SPARKY]

The only thing I question is the caliber of his opponents (yes, I know the Euroleague has improved, but still). Anyways, everything else looks great.

[MadDog73]

So, what's the latest? How good are the chances he'll be a Spur next year?

[THE SIXTH MAN]

The only thing I question is the caliber of his opponents (
Thats my first question, second would be if these highlights are before or after his injury?

[timvp]

So, what's the latest? How good are the chances he'll be a Spur next year?

Spurs will probably have to outbid Maccabi. My hope is he settles for LLE money with hopes of getting a larger contract down the road. However, if Maccabi has him as their number one interest this summer, he could get $2-4M per year from them.

[picnroll]

I think those were all post-injury, not sure though. He had the short haircut in all of them. The pre-injury shot the other day showed him getting his head at bottom of backboard level and there were defintely some here that were recent where he got the same eleavtion. That first block was sweet, he rotated quickly back to cover the penetrator. I've seen in games he does a good job covering the pick and roll and gatting back to his man. He's also a quick jumper even in a set postion off of two feet. I see some backdoor oops in young Mr Parker's future.

[SPARKY]

Spurs will probably have to outbid Maccabi. My hope is he settles for LLE money with hopes of getting a larger contract down the road. However, if Maccabi has him as their number one interest this summer, he could get $2-4M per year from them.

The one thing the Spurs have going for them is that they own his NBA rights. In the case of Oberto, I think they had to bid a little more since he was a free agent. For Javtokas, the precedent has been set with Manu taking the LLE way back when. Of course, Javtokas is free to decline. But if he wants to play in the NBA...

[Phenomanul]

Sign Him Up!!!

[Bruno]

So, what's the latest? How good are the chances he'll be a Spur next year?

Latest is that he is a Spur at 99%.

[SsKSpurs21]

lol whats with the NBA voiceovers? "nash to tim thomas!" "oh my, allen iverson!" :lol

anywho, the video footage was SICK! this guy seems ready for the NBA. let him play in the summer leagues, evaluate him and see where he stands, along with scola.

[Buddy Holly]

Another lengthy highlight video of Jav:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNwkeNIOkOo&search=javtokas

You might wanna mute the sound on this video. The music is... :nope

[Bruno]

let him play in the summer leagues, evaluate him and see where he stands, along with scola.

Scola and Javtokas will play with their NT this summer.
Summer leagues are uselles to evaluate them. Both have played at a way higher level than summer leagues with their NT (olympic games) and with their team (euroleague).

[Buddy Holly]

let him play in the summer leagues, evaluate him and see where he stands, along with scola.

There's a reason Manu and Oberto never played summer league but Tony Parker did.

[Buddy Holly]

If anyone wants to know if some highlights are pre or post injury, just compare rosters.

[whottt]

The only thing I question is the caliber of his opponents (yes, I know the Euroleague has improved, but still). Anyways, everything else looks great.



I was questioning this too...

Some of his best games of the season came against CKSA...the eventual Euroleague Champion...including his season high in rebounds(15) in the playoffs....er or whatever it was..not the playoffs but something like that.

[SPARKY]

Manu did well in the Euroleague, so it's not like that doesn't carry any weight.

[spurs=bling]

Sign Him Up!!!
I second this.

[whottt]

Manu did well in the Euroleague, so it's not like that doesn't carry any weight.


Agree...guys that have athleticism tend to be the ones that transfer well. I still haven't written Oberto off as being a contributor yet...he just wasn't big or fast enough to beat out our two NBA vet C's...both of whom have started on playoff teams.


CKSA and Scola's team were both in his division, both were Euroleague final 4, so it was a tough division..

Here's what he did in the big games: I think he actually outplayed Scola in one of the games...it's hard to tell because in these games they have to win by a certain number of points.


Anyway, link to stats:
http://www.euroleague.net/plantillas/jugador.jsp?id=BVE


And links to recaps against Tau and CKSA:
Tau
http://www.euroleague.net/noticia.jsp?temporada=E05&jornada=19&id=509
http://www.euroleague.net/noticia.jsp?temporada=E05&jornada=17&id=661


CKSA
http://www.euroleague.net/noticia.jsp?temporada=E05&jornada=18&id=632
http://www.euroleague.net/noticia.jsp?temporada=E05&jornada=15&id=800


He has a habit of making big dunks when his team needs them, at least in these big games he did, according to the recap...even the game where CKSA destroyed his team by Euroleague record standards.


The boxscores are also available from those links so you can see how he did up against Scola and compared to his teamates.

And this was the first year Rytas was in Euroleague...last year they were ULEB Cup.

[Lebowski Brickowski]

I didn't know Ivan Drogo played Euro BBall.

[whottt]

So get Javtokas..Scola, maybe Hermann...boom, our bench starts looking a whole lot like the best national team in the world...Team Argentina. And our bench might end up being the best small ball/running team in the NBA.


The only doubts I have about Javtokas really are those legs ...

You can just tell by looking at him he's going to command more respect than Rasho and Nazr...who knows, maybe he'll push Rasho. But to me it's obvious he's a completely different style of player from Rasho, this dude's hard...demonstrative, and he loves dunking it.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

http://www.euroleague.net/fotos/jugadores/ulebcup/03/grandes/BVE.jpg http://www.fiba.com/images/web/News/players_head_shots/arg/_192/arg_luis_scola_ori.jpg http://happycarpenter.blogs.com/the_happy_carpenter/images/ben_wallace_welcome_back_to_the_nba.jpg http://www.nba.com/media/act_bruce_bowen.jpg http://memphismojo.com/images/tim_duncan_t.jpg

Just add Bruce's backup and you got the frontcourt of the 2007 champions. :smokin

[picnroll]

JAvtokas also put up good numbers against Macabi, which has a good frontline, in the rebound and blocks departments. Against Winterthur FCB, that Scola's Tau just knocked out of the ACB playoffs, he had 14 rebounds and 4 blocks to go with 12 points. If you want defense you go with Javtokas no question. Offense Scola is your man. Spurs need a defensive big man/rebounder more but too bad you can't meld the two.

[Bruno]

The only doubts I have about Javtokas really are those legs ...


Javtokas has played a lot this season : 61 games and 26mpg.
Half of the games were against bad teams but it still a game.

[SPARKY]

He's gotta be a hardass to make it back from his accident like he did. I remember reading some articles and it seemed like everyone thought he was done, not just with basketball but with ever having full use of his legs again. Then one day I read that he's tearing up the Euroleague.

[picnroll]

Just a painful note for our dear Lakers' brethren. In the 2000 NBA draftthe Spurs with the 54th pick high schooler Corey Hightower. His rights were traded to the LA Lakers for two future second rounders in 2001 and 2002. Those two picks turned out to be both at #56 and yielded Robertas Javtokas and Luis Scola. Thanks Lakers. :lol

[SPARKY]

Just a painful note for our dear Lakers' brethren. In the 2000 NBA draftthe Spurs with the 54th pick high schooler Corey Hightower. His rights were traded to the LA Lakers for two future second rounders in 2001 and 2002. Those two picks turned out to be both at #56 and yielded Robertas Javtokas and Luis Scola. Thanks Lakers. :lol


http://www.coloritsuccess.com/kenny%20smith.jpg

"The rich get richer."

[jcrod]

Nice highlights, finally someone who will throw it down. He looks like exactly what the Spurs need. Hopefully him and his game will translate to the NBA game speed and talent.

As the idiot Bill Walton would say
Throw it down big fella, throw it down.

[temujin]

I am always suspicious when 4' out of 4'23'' are made of dunks. And 20'' of blocks.
Fortunately baskeball is slightly more complex than that.
He has little experience, little passing game and midrange shooting isn't precisely sufficient.
He is a good prospect, though, reminds me of the brazilian playing for the Cavs.

[MannyIsGod]

I am always suspicious when 4' out of 4'23'' are made of dunks. And 20'' of blocks.
Fortunately baskeball is slightly more complex than that.
He has little experience, little passing game and midrange shooting isn't precisely sufficient.
He is a good prospect, though, reminds me of the brazilian playing for the Cavs.Which is exactly what the Spurs need. They need raw raw muscle and stength to clean up the glass and play good D.

Man, that highlight reel was sweet as hell. I'm excited.

[SPARKY]

The Spurs need an athletic big next to TD whose purpose in life is to rebound and dunk.

[spurs=bling]

http://www.euroleague.net/fotos/jugadores/ulebcup/03/grandes/BVE.jpg http://www.fiba.com/images/web/News/players_head_shots/arg/_192/arg_luis_scola_ori.jpg http://happycarpenter.blogs.com/the_happy_carpenter/images/ben_wallace_welcome_back_to_the_nba.jpg http://www.nba.com/media/act_bruce_bowen.jpg http://memphismojo.com/images/tim_duncan_t.jpg

Just add Bruce's backup and you got the frontcourt of the 2007 champions. :smokin

OMG. that would be so awesome.

[rayray2k8]

http://www.euroleague.net/fotos/jugadores/ulebcup/03/grandes/BVE.jpg http://www.fiba.com/images/web/News/players_head_shots/arg/_192/arg_luis_scola_ori.jpg http://happycarpenter.blogs.com/the_happy_carpenter/images/ben_wallace_welcome_back_to_the_nba.jpg http://www.nba.com/media/act_bruce_bowen.jpg http://memphismojo.com/images/tim_duncan_t.jpg

Just add Bruce's backup and you got the frontcourt of the 2007 champions. :smokin
Do you honestly think the spurs are gonna carry 4-6 Centers??
The Spurs still need a long SF.
Im surprised that we havent had any piston fan go off about this.
But I think they know the spurs cant afford Ben Wallace.
Although, that would be freakin awsome. :fro

[temujin]

Which is exactly what the Spurs need. They need raw raw muscle and stength to clean up the glass and play good D.

Man, that highlight reel was sweet as hell. I'm excited.

Problem is his experience. He has next to nothing.
On top, if the Spurs sign Scola, he'll get very little playing time, even without Mohammed.
If they don't, then he might have a chance behind Nesterovic.

If I were him, I'd stay in the Euroleague one more year.
But he's a biker, he'll take the chance!

[wildbill2u]

Very athletic, has the potential to be a very good defender, very limited offensively outside the low post.

Much more aggressive then Rasho, and much less clumsy than Nazr, even with his body sewn back together.

I saw some nice aggressive drive moves from out around the top of the key--something that NAZR and RASHO almost never did or were able to do.

And there aren't many centers men with outside shots. You could probably name them on one hand. While it would be a nice skill for a center and possibly make him a superstar, I haven't seen Shaq make many threes. Not on his job description.

I hope that all those outtakes were recent and not from before his injury. I'd heard he was still somewhat limited physically--but he looks like he's moving damn good to me in this video.

[SPARKY]

Using DRob as a model, I think the most important qualities of a big alongside TD is that they rebound, defend and not command many touches otherwise. Also, if they can make the post entry pass that is nice. Outside of that, yes, a jumpshot is nice.

[Doc Jerome]

He looks good. I hope the Spurs' brain trust has made it a priority to sign him up. I think Summer League will tell the tale for the rest of the Spurs offseason moves.

Gooooo Ian!

[wildbill2u]

A good athletic center is what it will take to smash small ball. And I kinda like small ball, being a height-challenged guard all my life.

[Spurologist]

A good athletic center is what it will take to smash small ball. And I kinda like small ball, being a height-challenged guard all my life.

How many small ball teams have won the nba title? You can start guessing.............




































now

[Extra Stout]

How many small ball teams have won the nba title? You can start guessing.............

now
The 1974-75 Golden State Warriors.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Bye Nazr. Have fun in Chicago.

Yep, hopefully we can get something useable in return.

[ShoogarBear]

Javtokas looks very mobile and very strong, but there's no way he'll get lanes like that to drive in the NBA, especially if he has no jumper.

[timvp]

Yep, hopefully we can get something useable in return.

No not Baby Hakeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeem :cry

[spurs=bling]

Javtokas looks very mobile and very strong, but there's no way he'll get lanes like that to drive in the NBA, especially if he has no jumper.
buzz kill :depressed

[Nikos]

Javtokas looks very mobile and very strong, but there's no way he'll get lanes like that to drive in the NBA, especially if he has no jumper.

Just getting put backs and rebounding over Dirk or Josh Howard would be enough. Doesn't need to create anything in the halfcourt set really.

The highlights look nice in terms of his athleticism and rebounding. But how much of it is PRE-ACCIDENT?

[strangeweather]

Javtokas looks very mobile and very strong, but there's no way he'll get lanes like that to drive in the NBA, especially if he has no jumper.
Nazr -- but with good enough hands to receive the pass when his man leaves him -- would be a start.

[smdanss]

Hope to see bringing in Javtokas and Scola for the coming season. :elephant :elephant

[ShoogarBear]

Just getting put backs and rebounding over Dirk or Josh Howard would be enough. Doesn't need to create anything in the halfcourt set really.

Yes, and boxing out on the defensive boards (which of course aren't in any highlight reels). I'm not saying he can't be useful, but I wouldn't get overly excited over what was on the clips.


Nazr -- but with good enough hands to receive the pass when his man leaves him -- would be a start.
True. Although don't underrate Nazr's little 12-15 foot jumper.

[Obstructed_View]

:tu Yee ha, baby! I can't wait to see him sitting on the bench in the playoffs due to the Spurs' new "No Defense" policy.

[Spurologist]

The 1974-75 Golden State Warriors.

Fuck small ball

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

Do you honestly think the spurs are gonna carry 4-6 Centers??
The Spurs still need a long SF.
Im surprised that we havent had any piston fan go off about this.
But I think they know the spurs cant afford Ben Wallace.
Although, that would be freakin awsome. :fro
Robertas Javtokas plays PF/C and Luis Scola is a PF, so that's three centers if you consider Javtokas and Duncan a center. If you read my stuff before I suggested a sign and trade for Rasho, Oberto, and 2-3 picks for Wallace. Nazr's going to Chicago. Plus, I put Bruce's backup so I put the long forward you speak of. And yes I do think the Spurs can make this possible.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

Are these videos of explosiveness from before or after he got his leg shattered

[picnroll]

Fred House is in most of them so I think that makes them fairly recent as he joined Rytas well after Javtokas came back from injury. I think these highlights are all from last year or this year.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

Javtokas looks very mobile and very strong, but there's no way he'll get lanes like that to drive in the NBA, especially if he has no jumper.
Didn't you see him knock down 1 or 2 jumpers in the vids?

[ace3g]

plus he has a hook shot, and some of the other videos posted of him showing that he has a good up and under move down in the lane

[Knoxville Spur]

Like: big hands, seems to palm the ball with ease (like Timmy)

Excellent body control!

Surely he can develop his footwork and post moves practicing against Tim every day.

Love the dunk over the lead footed Sabonis!

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

Like: big hands, seems to palm the ball with ease (like Timmy)

Excellent body control!

Surely he can develop his footwork and post moves practicing against Tim every day.

Love the dunk over the lead footed Sabonis!
He dunked over Sabonis? :wow I gotta see it again!

[SPARKY]

Granted that is a highlight reel but he looks like an absolute warrior.

[whottt]

Correct me if I am wrong...but isn't that video broken down into the various stages of his career, and labeled as such? It looks like the Euroleague section of his career is clearly labeled.

[whottt]

Yes, and boxing out on the defensive boards (which of course aren't in any highlight reels). I'm not saying he can't be useful, but I wouldn't get overly excited over what was on the clips.


True. Although don't underrate Nazr's little 12-15 foot jumper.



Don't be a hater Shoogar.

[ShoogarBear]

I'm not being a hater.

Should we go back and pull what people were saying about Oberto before this year?

[whottt]

At worst, the guy is Chris Andersen without the stupidity.

[SPARKY]

Javtokas' athleticism is evident in those vids. Oberto moves at a somewhat more glacial pace.

[Spurologist]

I'm not being a hater.

Should we go back and pull what people were saying about Oberto before this year?

I plead guilty :lol

[SPARKY]

Hmmm...I do remember arguing with someone last year who was certain that FIBA rules did not mask Oberto's defensive deficiencies in the '04 Olympics.

[ShoogarBear]

I'm not questioning his athleticism. I just don't see a tremendous amount of skills being displayed.

Again, he can certainly be useful, but I wouldn't pin the hopes of next year on him.

[Knoxville Spur]

The yacht-opus might be the only guy on the planet with the size and agility to match up with Nowitski.

(ok Garnet and a healthy Amare might also be candidates)

[whottt]

I'm not being a hater.

Should we go back and pull what people were saying about Oberto before this year?


I wasn't one of the ones saying he would start...I just said his game would translate to the NBA better than Scola's and that he would be a key contributor...let's hope I am wrong about that Scola part too.

Oberto never reallly got a chance...Rasho and Nazr are both 7 feet tall and can block shots...

[whottt]

I'm not questioning his athleticism. I just don't see a tremendous amount of skills being displayed.

Again, he can certainly be useful, but I wouldn't pin the hopes of next year on him.


Look at the dunks and agression and think back on the careers of Rasho and Nazr.

[whottt]

Shoogarbear will be a founding member of the Church of Yavtokas before all is said and done.

[SPARKY]

I think he's demonstrated the basic skill set for a Spurs' big playing alongside TD: ability to run the floor, attack the rim, rebound and block shots. Those have been the 4 requirements since day one.

[Solid D]

It's a "greatest hits" video ya'll. If you watch Robertas thoughout a game, he's not as dominant as he looks in the video montage. He has impressive moments, though.

His role is more workmanlike, setting screens, protecting the middle, rebounding, and being a physical post presence. He shoots horrible from the FT line and teams can sag off him to force his hand on his so-so jumper. You can actually lose track of him during a game, just like you do with Rasho, unless you are watching for his role as path-maker for the scorers.

It is an awesome video, though and an amazing testimony to Robertas' long, successful recovery from a major physical setback.

[RobinsontoDuncan]

I dont think anyone is dilusional about his offensive abilities, he scored 9 ppg there, that might mean 9 ppg here at best, and that is assuming Tim and Tony can open up some space for him inside with double teams and dimes. That being said, I think everyone here appreciates that he isnt a lump of lead standing on the court (Rasho) an doesnt pump fake 30 times before dunking.

[SPARKY]

It's a "greatest hits" video ya'll. If you watch Robertas thoughout a game, he's not as dominant as he looks in the video montage. He has impressive moments, though.

His role is more workmanlike, setting screens, protecting the middle, rebounding, and being a physical post presence. He shoots horrible from the FT line and teams can sag off him to force his hand on his so-so jumper. You can actually lose track of him during a game, just like you do with Rasho, unless you are watching for his role as path-maker for the scorers.

It is an awesome video, though and an amazing testimony to Robertas' long, successful recovery from a major physical setback.

That's great considering that the Spurs could pay him $3 mil to do what Radoslav can't for $42 mil.

[ducks]

he can set good screens for manu and tp good post solid d

[MannyIsGod]

I not a damn pumpfake in the whole video. Thank God.

[raspsa]

I like his aggressiveness, specially on defense. Could be the intimidator/enforcer the Spurs need. Seems mobile enough..maybe light enough on his feet to keep pace with Dirk on the perimeter? we'll see...

[gospursgojas]

Looks really good, but how old are those vids???

I don't want to come up with an opinion of him based on highlights of him 5 years younger.

Didn't he have a knee injury or something???

[MannyIsGod]

Do people read? Thats my only question.

[gospursgojas]

Sorry if I don't want to read through 5 pages of posts....actually I'm not sorry :fro

[MannyIsGod]

Someone said the hightlights were of him after the injury.

[T Park]

First impressions from the video are that this guy is what the Spurs have wanted since D Rob left.

Someone who brings D, athleticism, and someone with an edge.

He shows all the above, and on top of it all that no one mentions, he has what appears to be a great amount of strength.


Rebounding, shot blocking is all the Spurs needed.


Looks like he can bring it.

Id debate over trading Scola, or bringing him over for half the MLE.

I wouldn't give more, Id be more inclined to play Oberto more minutes.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

no kidding, this cat looks strong as hell

i love his intensity, hopefully he is still athletic though

isn't this all a moot point anyways, cuz the chances of us buying him out are slim and none right?

[T Park]

:lol

hes a free agent, no buyouts.

Your thinking of Scola.



Plus, alot of those highlights are post accident, so this cat can still jump.


Dude has NASTY ups.

[gospursgojas]

Spurs will probably have to outbid Maccabi. My hope is he settles for LLE money with hopes of getting a larger contract down the road. However, if Maccabi has him as their number one interest this summer, he could get $2-4M per year from them.


Probably what CBF is talkin about

[ChumpDumper]

If the dude would rather ball in fucking Israel I say let him.

"What's your highest achievement, Robertas?"

"Dude, I played in Israel. Israel, bitch!"

[Burly_Man]

If the dude would rather ball in fucking Israel I say let him.

"What's your highest achievement, Robertas?"

"Dude, I played in Israel. Israel, bitch!"

If asked, I think he would say "Dude, learning to walk again."

[ChumpDumper]

"Dude, learning to walk again so I could play in Israel!"

[timvp]

Yeah if he takes the money in Israel over playing in the NBA and only having to beat out Rasho to be a well paid millionaire in a couple years, I'd say go ahead. That's not the type of player the Spurs need.

[whottt]

Can you jump over a car GiG?

[SPARKY]

I don't know what his vertical is now but it was 40"+ (http://www.nba.com/draft2001/teams/overview_spurs.html?nav=ArticleList) when he was drafted.


According to Suproleague Yearbook, gained instant fame in Lithuania by dunking on a basket raised to 3.592 m, or slightly more than 11 feet, 8 inches high.

source (http://www.nba.com/draft2001/playerfiles/robertas_javtokas.html?nav=ArticleList)

Sounds easy.

[whottt]

What I notice is he has the ability to hang, be mobile, coordinated and shift his body, in the air...that is not typical of your average in NBA C.

[Burly_Man]

You are wrong about that...and I am not trying to argue. I just want to give you all a perspective of how easy it is to dunk at that height. I can do all of those dunks (except for that nasty one of the other dude) and I am 4 inches shorter than him. If anything, he is just a really strong power dunker...similar to Kenyon Martin. He is extremely athletic but I don't think his vert is as high as most of you think. Nevertheless, sign him up!

I agree, I don't think anyone believes he still has a 40 inch vert, that wasn't apparent in the videos. Comparing the Mahinmi video, it looked like Mahinmi had the better vertical. Javtokas still has the explosiveness though. He finished strong despite being fouled because he gets up quicker than anyone around him in those videos.

It's also apparent that he isn't just a phone booth rebounder and defender. He made some great blocks where he had to adjust and move laterally, not just up and down.

So while his vertical doesn't appear to be what it once was, his explosiveness and lateral mobility still look very good.

[Bruno]

It's also apparent he isnt just a phone booth rebounder and defender. He made some great blocks where he had to adjust and move laterally, not just up and down.


The block on Mario Kasun with Lithuania at the 2005 euro was a nice up and down block.

[picnroll]

Definitly body contol. He came in for some of those dunks and slid to the side to avoid the dunk. That's something you'll never see Nazr do and Rasho can't even do in his dreams.

[Burly_Man]

The block on Mario Kasun with Lithuania at the 2005 euro was a nice up and down block.

All the blocks in the highlight reel are spectacular, whether up and down or sideways. He sends back hard stuff, not just floaters and layups.

[picnroll]

Brunno, settle a question. Am I right that those palys are all post-injury or are some pre-injury?

[Bruno]

Brunno, settle a question. Am I right that those palys are all post-injury or are some pre-injury?

I don't know exactly.
The part on the euroleague (just after the logo and the sentence "then he entered") is post-injury (it's from this year).
The block on Kasun is from last summer.

But I'm curious to know if the dunk over the guy with the yellow jersey is pre or post injury.

[SPARKY]

This team could use another hardass player or two. Sometimes I think things have come too easy for this team. People act like vets are now something to be shunned this summer. Bullshit. The Spurs have won championships with vets who've been there. The problem for this team this season wasn't about age, it was about matchups and I'd say, somewhat about intensity. Javtokas would appear to be a step in the right direction.

[Bruno]

But I'm curious to know if the dunk over the guy with the yellow jersey is pre or post injury.


After a quick search this dunk (situated at 25s from the start in the video) is post-injury (1st february 2005 to be accurate).

[SPARKY]

After a quick search this dunk (situated at 25s from the start in the video) is post-injury (1st february 2005 to be accurate).

:smokin

Can't wait.

[Mr. Body]

After a quick search this dunk (situated at 25s from the start in the video) is post-injury (1st february 2005 to be accurate).

Geez. What was he like before the injury? Did he bang his head on the rafters?

[T Park]

This guy, in all seriousness, reminds you of a white Ben Wallace.

[rayray2k8]

This guy, in all seriousness, reminds you of a white Ben Wallace.
If you're gonna compare Javtokas as a "white Ben Wallace" then I'll compare him to a "white amare stoudamire". :lol

[Solid D]

I think SPARKY needs to take a cold shower. :lol

[whottt]

Javtokas can!

[whottt]

I heard he has chunks of volleyball players in his stool.

[SPARKY]

Small animals disappear around Robertas.

[T Park]

So beno is a goner then?