Odds of Robertas Javtokas being a Spur

[Brutalis]

Really...

[ducks]

I would say it is 85% chance he will be a spur

[Brutalis]

Thanks for the honesty.

[TDMVPDPOY]

100% pure love!

[Mr. Body]

It's basically done, in my opinion. He's an offseason priority.

[spurschick]

Extremely good.

[clubalien]

The odds are higher we sign this dude than we fire pop

[ashbeeigh]

How many threads about this do we have about this guy?

[Mr. Body]

How many threads about this do we have about this guy?

Several. And they're all great.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

I would say low, timvp and others were saying he has to be bought out first

[Bruno]

Really...

99%
I will be really surprised if he didn't sign with Spurs this summer.

[leemajors]

I would say low, timvp and others were saying he has to be bought out first

he's a free agent. timvp said we would have to outbid maccabi.

[ducks]

I would say low, timvp and others were saying he has to be bought out first
scola has the buyout

[Texas_Ranger]

80%
I just think he will not come and I don`t no why do I think so?

[Leetonidas]

High probably. Maccabi is one of the best teams in Europe, yes, but the Spurs are recognized as the best franchise in American sports.

[Russ]

It may already be done -- just can't announce it yet (till July 12).

[Solid D]

3-2 165 vbookies to win 100

[ChumpDumper]

It may already be done -- just can't announce it yet (till July 12).They could announce it July 1 but not sign it til later.

[djohn14]

Good point Russ.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

so what is the difference between buying out and outbidding?

[Solid D]

Unrestricted Free agents such as Robertas, who is no longer under contract with Lieutuvos Rytas, have nothing to buy out. They are free to seek the highest bid.

Players under contract such as Luis are restricted and will need to seek a buy out of their contract. NBA Teams can only offer so much money, so it's not necessarily a highest bid scenario.

[clubalien]

buying out means he has a contract and there is an option to end the contract at X money

out bidding means he has no contract and several peopel wish to offer him one and are bidding againts each other. Out bidding woudl be to bid over the other teams offer

spurs don't neccary have to out bid money wise though. maybe he woudl play here for less

[ALVAREZ6]

High probably. Maccabi is one of the best teams in Europe, yes, but the Spurs are recognized as the best franchise in American sports.
Well, not by the media...

[SPARKY]

He's not under contract with Rytas, so he's free to sign with the Spurs or basically any other team outside of the NBA. But if he wants to play in the NBA, he'll be a Spur.

Based on what I've seen, he'll sign with the Spurs when he can.

[Kori Ellis]

so what is the difference between buying out and outbidding?

People have touched on it but here you go for clarity ....


Scola has a buyout as he's currently under contract with another team. Meaning that he has to pay his current team a certain amount of money (last season it was 14.5M -- this season it's rumored to be reduced to around 3-4M) before he can leave and sign with another team. NBA teams are permitted to give only 500K straight toward that buyout. So the player would need to be paid enough by the new team (i.e. the Spurs) to be able to pay off his old team. Therefore giving Scola a contract for $2M isn't going to give him enough money to pay his buyout.

Javtokas has no buyout - he's not under contract. However, reports are that Maccabi (an Israeli team with money) wants him. So if Maccabi offers him a substantial contract, he may choose that contract over whatever the Spurs are offering. So the Spurs would have to outbid Maccabi (or Javtokas just choose to take less money and play for the Spurs).

[clubalien]

go to a Israeli team and get bombd by hamas or go to championship san antonio spurs and your biggest fear is having pop make you get donuts. Hard choice there

[Bruno]

Javtokas has no buyout - he's not under contract. However, reports are that Maccabi (an Israeli team with money) wants him.

Latest reports (from some lithuanian posters on other boards) about Maccabi are that javtokas' agent has said in a lithuanian newspaper that this rumor was bulshit.

[timvp]

Latest reports (from some lithuanian posters on other boards) about Maccabi are that javtokas' agent has said in a lithuanian newspaper that this rumor was bulshit.

But didn't the rumors orginate from a Javtokas interview?

:drunk

[Bruno]

But didn't the rumors orginate from a Javtokas interview?

:drunk

I'm not sure he mentioned Maccabi in this interview. He just said that he has received some good offers from european teams too.
Maybe he has received an offer from Maccabi but it's far from negociating with them.

[Kori Ellis]

I thought there was a quote from him in that interview talking about Maccabi.

[Bruno]

I thought there was a quote from him in that interview talking about Maccabi.

Which interview ?

He made one with some lithuanian press where he said that he will leave Rytas for an european team or Spurs and that his priority was the lithuanian NT for the moment. I don't think he speaks about Maccabi in this one.

After, there is a supposed interview he made with israelian press where he said that he will likely sign with Maccabi.

[Kori Ellis]

I am talking about the interview in the Israeli press (which was actually before the Lithuanian article).

[clubalien]

I am not trying to be mean, but no one has seen this iserali newspaper. If someone did it would have to be translated because I don't know hebrew.

[SPARKY]

If Adonal Foyle and Brian Cardinal can get $40 million in the NBA Javtokas would be a fool to go to Israel.

[Bruno]

I am talking about the interview in the Israeli press (which was actually before the Lithuanian article).

In fact his interview with the Lithuanian presss was made before the Israeli press article : http://www.lrytas.lt/?data=20060523&id=11483322561146348216&view=4
He just said in this interview (from 05/23) that there are good offers from european teams.

My guess is that he has received a good offer from Maccabi but he hasn't really negociated with them. I doubt too that Javtokas has said what was reported in the israeli article. Lithuanian articles were too sceptical about that news.

[Kori Ellis]

I am not trying to be mean, but no one has seen this iserali newspaper. If someone did it would have to be translated because I don't know hebrew.

Yes they have. It's already been posted.


In fact his interview with the Lithuanian presss was made before the Israeli press article : http://www.lrytas.lt/?data=20060523...46348216&view=4
He just said in this interview (from 05/23) that there are good offers from european teams.

My guess is that he has received a good offer from Maccabi but he hasn't really negociated with them. I doubt too that Javtokas has said what was reported in the israeli article. Lithuanian articles were too sceptical about that news.


Okay that's not the Lithuanian article that I was talking about. You are right - it's before the Israeli article which was around 5/30. But I believe the Israeli article directly quotes Javtokas talking about Maccabi but saying he doesn't have an official offer from them. So you are saying you don't believe those quotes?

[Bruno]

But I believe the Israeli article directly quotes Javtokas.


I've understood that too.



So you are saying you don't believe those quotes?

Yes, I don't believe them.
In the lithuanian newspaper I've translated, they insisted that it was "according to an israeli newspaper" and they pointed they said in a previous article that he was close to signing with Spurs.

I think that javtokas has never been close to signing with Maccabi and that his signing with Spurs is a done thing.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

Ehhh, the chances of us outbidding a team with money are slim and none, hence chances of us finally getting a center who can dunk and has passion are slim and none

[Russ]

I think that javtokas has never been close to signing with Maccabi and that his signing with Spurs is a done thing.
I think that's the Cliff Notes version of the truth.

[SPARKY]

Ehhh, the chances of us outbidding a team with money are slim and none, hence chances of us finally getting a center who can dunk and has passion are slim and none

eh? His best chance for $ is joining the NBA.

[clubalien]

in the words of dusty regarding KiDD to the spurs "it is a lock"

So quote me on this

Javtokas to the spurs its a lock

[Russ]

in the words of dusty regarding KiDD to the spurs "it is a lock"

So quote me on this

Javtokas to the spurs its a lock
Do you know something about Javtokas' wife maybe? Does she want to be a star? :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

go to a Israeli team and get bombd by hamas or go to championship san antonio spurs and your biggest fear is having pop make you get donuts. Hard choice there

Wow that was fucking ignorant.

[Russ]

Wow that was fucking ignorant.
Absolutely correct. "Hamas" should be capitalized.

[clubalien]

Wow that was fucking ignorant.
Yeah because palestinians would NEVER EVER target athlets. or target people that play for a jewish state. and Surely if they would never kill him outside of iseral.OH wait there was that one time in muinch.

Oh Hamas and assocated groups are KNOWN for their PERCISON wepaons and always target miltary targets. They never would kill civilans.

Ofcourse they have a truce to end violence. Oh wait wrong once again that just got canceled.

[Spurologist]

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