Would You Be Excited If LB Was Our New Coach?

[MrChug]

FACT: Larry Brown will be bought out/fired/ousted as the NYK coach before next year.

FACT: Most of the blame for this years playoff underachievement is placed on the shoulders of Greg Popovich. Very little credit is given to our opponent.
FACT: A "shakeup" to bring back the excitement and spotlight to San Antonio Spurs basketball is looming and appropriately in order.
FACT: Hiring Larry Brown would do just that.

What do you think?? I'm NOT asking how "likely" you think it is...if it could happen, what do you think are the pros/cons? Would it work...or fail?


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[clubalien]

I don't want larrybrown I don't want pop.
Sean elliot or AJ Is who I would want to coach us. And all you peeps quit dissing AJ. HE won us a championship. If you want to diss soemone diss ajs wife.

[ZStomp]

Sean Elliot as a coach??

Nah, I don't see that.

If I had to chose I'd chose a LB over Elliot....that being said...

How excited would I be? 10 seconds..because then he would be leaving SA... again. :lol

[exstatic]

Larry Brown is psychotic, and alienates every player who plays for him, eventually. He'll be crying and looking for job by Thanksgiving. No thanks.

[T Park]

why would you fire pop over 1 playoff loss.

Just curious over the intelligence on that decision.

[clubalien]

You would't be firing him over one playoff lose. You would be firing him because he sucks. You remember everyone calling for his him to be cut during the regualr season. Even if we won we still need a new coach.

[v2freak]

Yes and no. I'd hate to see Pop go, but I do blame him for this playoff loss. But like T Park said, I woudln't fire him over just 1.

LB already has great chemistry with TD though and he's a great coach. I'd take him

[Melmart1]

Some of these offseason threads really suck ass. Pop isn't going anywhere.

[Solid D]

Pop is a great coach. Larry Brown is an overtalker.

[ChumpDumper]

FACT: Larry Brown will be bought out/fired/ousted as the NYK coach before next year.
FACT: Most of the blame for this years playoff underachievement is placed on the shoulders of Greg Popovich. Very little credit is given to our opponent.
FACT: A "shakeup" to bring back the excitement and spotlight to San Antonio Spurs basketball is looming and appropriately in order.
FACT: Hiring Larry Brown would do just that.FACT: You are on crack.

[Solid D]

Meanwhile, Pat Riley had to resort to going small in the 2nd half when Dallas went small.

[angel_luv]

If Pop were to retire ( which I hope he has no plans of), I would want Coach Carlesimo to take over.

[Please_dont_ban_me]

Hell no.

I'd be pissed if he was. Pop is a hell of a coach, he's loyal to this franchise. LB is a bitch.

[MrChug]

Some of these offseason threads really suck ass. Pop isn't going anywhere.

Look fucker...stop taking yourself so seriously. It's a "what if". This thread is reserved for opinions on the "what if". Nobody's saying it's going to happen. You should find something better to do than replying to threads that "suck ass" instead of wanting to see your name again. Ooops, you've already fucked that up by about 2,000 posts. Sorry...

...anyway moving on-anyone with a brain want to reply with a purpose? :rolleyes

[Please_dont_ban_me]

Look fucker...stop taking yourself so seriously. It's a "what if". This thread is reserved for opinions on the "what if". Nobody's saying it's going to happen. You should find something better to do than replying to threads that "suck ass" instead of wanting to see your name again. Ooops, you've already fucked that up by about 2,000 posts. Sorry...

...anyway moving on-anyone with a brain want to reply with a purpose? :rolleyes

*Waits for her e-crew to gang up on you*

[MrChug]

*Waits for her e-crew to gang up on you*

...oh no! You mean MORE human beings that spend too much time here!?!? Damn...not that.

[Please_dont_ban_me]

...oh no! You mean MORE human beings that spend too much time here!?!? Damn...not that.

I barely got them off my ass.

You're on your own, big guy. :elephant

[ALVAREZ6]

Would You Be Excited If LB Was Our New Coach?
No.

[MrChug]

I barely got them off my ass.

You're on your own, big guy. :elephant

:lol

[clubalien]

I would like to add that POP lost more than one game in the playoffs hell in the dalals series alone he lost 4!

[Viva Las Espuelas]

And all you peeps quit dissing AJ. HE won us a championship.

he made the shot yes, but the series ended 4-1 not 4-3.

[waldo_woo]

There's no way to take the question seriously when three out of four "FACTS" are utterly false. I'll grant that LB is likely on his way out with the Knicks. Aside from that, the Pop haters need to stop knee jerking, give a little credit to the Mavs for having a team that gave the Spurs match-up problems, and realize that we were literally a call/bounce or two away from another trip to the finals. Do the Spurs need to make some personnel changes - subtle as they may be - to the team during this offseason? Yes. Is a coaching change even in the top 20 (or 50) things that would improve the team? No.

[Please_dont_ban_me]

Meanwhile, Pat Riley had to resort to going small in the 2nd half when Dallas went small.

He did?

From what I saw Walker/Haslem were in at the 4 most of the game.

[Dre_7]

I would like to add that POP lost more than one game in the playoffs hell in the dalals series alone he lost 4!

Youre right. It was all Pop. It had nothing to do with Manu turning it over in game 3. Or Duncan missing a baby hook at the end of regulation in game 4. Pop was the reason Manu fouled Dirk in game 7. He obviously told his team to foul. Pop was the reason both Manu and Duncan missed potential game winners at the end of regulation in that game. Pop is just awful.

[SPARKY]

Been there. Done that.

Anyways, if Pop wanted to have LB join his staff as an assistant, that might work.

[AMOS7]

Phil Jackson? Yes. Pat Riley? Yes. Avery Johnson? Yes.

If not any of those, keep Pop.

[Slinkyman]

Since Gregg Popovich took over, we've won no less then 53 game in a full season. We've won 6 division championships in 9 years. We've made it to the WCF 4 out of 9 years and to the finals 3 times and won the championship 3 times. What more does a motherfucker have to do to earn some respect? Let's not forget those talented spurs teams from 94 to 96 that couldn't get it done before Pop was the coach.

and to the OP, we don't need a shake up we're a great team who lost to another great team it happens. We DID NOT underacheive! We lost to the 2nd best team in the league in game 7 in overtime! get fucking real.

[clubalien]

POP wouldn't be anywhere without tim.
Now your argument is well phil wouldn't be anywhere without shaq.
But he proved he could turn around a team in the lakers with no one on it but kobe and no shaq.

[zeleni]

How excited? Well...

(___) this how much.

[SPARKY]

Phil Jackson? Yes. Pat Riley? Yes. Avery Johnson? Yes.

If not any of those, keep Pop.

Same old Spurs fans.

[Please_dont_ban_me]

POP wouldn't be anywhere without tim.
Now your argument is well phil wouldn't be anywhere without shaq.
But he proved he could turn around a team in the lakers with no one on it but kobe and no shaq.

So one could say "Phil Jackson wouldn't be anywhere without Kobe".

Kobe is a comparable player to Michael Jordan. Having "just" him isn't too bad of a start.





But generally speaking the "so and so coach wouldn't be anywhere without so and so player" is completely fucking retarded. Every great coach has had great players. That's part of the deal.

[Dre_7]

POP wouldn't be anywhere without tim.
Now your argument is well phil wouldn't be anywhere without shaq.
But he proved he could turn around a team in the lakers with no one on it but kobe and no shaq.

Every great coach has won championships because of their superstars. How many rings did Phil win when Jordan retired to play baseball? How many rings did he win when Shaq went to Mia? What happened to Riley the year that magic got hurt in the Finals? So yes, if there was no Tim, Pop wouldnt have won rings. But thats how it is for all coaches. All the great coaches have had superstars. Thats NBA basketball.

[zeleni]

Every great coach has won championships because of their superstars. How many rings did Phil win when Jordan retired to play baseball? How many rings did he win when Shaq went to Mia? What happened to Riley the year that magic got hurt in the Finals? So yes, if there was no Tim, Pop wouldnt have won rings. But thats how it is for all coaches. All the great coaches have had superstars. Thats NBA basketball.

I disagree.

Adelman is a great coach and he never had a superstar (Divac is only a star).

[Solid D]

I disagree.

Adelman is a great coach and he never had a superstar (Divac is only a star).

Wouldn't you consider Clyde Drexler a superstar? I do think Rick is a great coach, though.

[Dre_7]

Clyde is a superstar. He was amazing.

[Solid D]

He did?

From what I saw Walker/Haslem were in at the 4 most of the game.

I should probably be more specific, because Miami going small is a bit different than the Spurs going small.

Miami normally replaces Shaq with Zo or Doleac. When Miami has to match up with 2 Bigs with size, like they did with the Spurs on occasion, then they might play some combination of Shaq, Doleac or Zo together.

In Dallas, Miami did very well in the first half with Walker (6'-9") at SF and Haslem (6'-8") at PF and Shaq at the 5. A bigger lineup. Dallas adjusted their screen roll (JT and Dirk) and had better movement toward the end of the 2nd quarter and throughout the rest of the game. There were also some foul concerns with Walker and Haslem trying to guard Dirk. Therefore, Miami went smaller with Posey and seldom played Walker and Haslem together in the 2nd half...until the end. Miami is fortunate to have some fairly quick, physical Forwards. Whether that will make enough of a difference in holding Dirk down some, remains to be seen.

[Please_dont_ban_me]

I should probably be more specific, because Miami going small is a bit different than the Spurs going small.

Miami normally replaces Shaq with Zo or Doleac. When Miami has to match up with 2 Bigs with size, like they did with the Spurs on occasion, then they might play some combination of Shaq, Doleac or Zo together.

In Dallas, Miami did very well in the first half with Walker (6'-9") at SF and Haslem (6'-8") at PF and Shaq at the 5. A bigger lineup. Dallas adjusted their screen roll (JT and Dirk) and had better movement toward the end of the 2nd quarter and throughout the rest of the game. There were also some foul concerns with Walker and Haslem trying to guard Dirk. Therefore, Miami went smaller with Posey and seldom played Walker and Haslem together in the 2nd half...until the end. Miami is fortunate to have some fairly quick, physical Forwards. Whether that will make enough of a difference in holding Dirk down some, remains to be seen.

That's not exactly going small.

Maybe by Miami standards, but they still have a center and a power forward on the floor. Instead of a Power Forward and a small forward, and 3 guards.

[wildbill2u]

FACT: Larry Brown will be bought out/fired/ousted as the NYK coach before next year.

FACT: Most of the blame for this years playoff underachievement is placed on the shoulders of Greg Popovich. Very little credit is given to our opponent.
FACT: A "shakeup" to bring back the excitement and spotlight to San Antonio Spurs basketball is looming and appropriately in order.
FACT: Hiring Larry Brown would do just that.

What do you think?? I'm NOT asking how "likely" you think it is...if it could happen, what do you think are the pros/cons? Would it work...or fail?


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No!

[Solid D]

That's not exactly going small.

Maybe by Miami standards, but they still have a center and a power forward on the floor. Instead of a Power Forward and a small forward, and 3 guards.

Right, and that's because the Spurs had nobody over 6-7 with mobility, besides Tim. The Heat have a couple of physical 6-8, 6-9 guys with decent lateral movement...and they were successful with it until Dallas adjusted by moving Dirk around to the wings some and JT getting the lion's share of the screen/roll scoring.

Zo played 5 minutes...all of them spotting Shaq.

[Please_dont_ban_me]

Right, and that's because the Spurs had nobody over 6-7 with mobility, besides Tim. The Heat have a couple of physical 6-8, 6-9 guys with decent lateral movement...and they were successful with it until Dallas adjusted by moving Dirk around to the wings some and JT getting the lion's share of the screen/roll scoring.

Zo played 5 minutes...all of them spotting Shaq.

This debate has no end.

I could argue till my fingers fall off. Bottom line is, you think we should have gone small and I think we should have stayed big. I doubt one is going to convince the other to change there opinion. :elephant

[Slinkyman]

The Heat started the 2nd with Haslem at center, Walker at PF and Posey at SF and Walker and Posey played alot at the same time with Shaq at center, so C, SF, and SF isn't small ball? Let's see how miami adjusts the rest of the way, i'm sure we'll see more of combinations of players so it will be interesting to see how it plays out. In the end you can't compare Miami to SA because we don't have one player like posey, walker or haslem.

[Kori Ellis]

I don't think Pop is going anywhere until Duncan retires.

And I would never want Larry Brown here. He's a whiner. He's a nomad. He doesn't relate well to his players. And he's not loyal at all. The fact that he even spoke to Cleveland during the Pistons' 2005 playoff run is completely disgusting.

F' Larry Brown.

[Texas_Ranger]

I don't think Pop is going anywhere until Duncan retires.

And I would never want Larry Brown here. He's a whiner. He's a nomad. He doesn't relate well to his players. And he's not loyal at all. The fact that he even spoke to Cleveland during the Pistons' 2005 playoff run is completely disgusting.

F' Larry Brown.


I totally agree with you.

[ata]

I wouldn't mind PJ over Pop, but LB over Pop? No thank you.

[Kori Ellis]

A lot of people (posters) are high on PJ.

I have never understood why.

[ShoogarBear]

A lot of people (posters) are high on PJ.

I have never understood why.
Not me. PJ had two chances at the NBA, and was underwhelming in both.

[Fabbs]

Every great coach has won championships because of their superstars. How many rings did Phil win when Jordan retired to play baseball? How many rings did he win when Shaq went to Mia? What happened to Riley the year that magic got hurt in the Finals? So yes, if there was no Tim, Pop wouldnt have won rings. But thats how it is for all coaches. All the great coaches have had superstars. Thats NBA basketball.
How many rings did Phil lose when he had Jordan? Phil went like 6-7.
How many rings did Riley lose when he had Magic and the refs?

Pop is 3-8 with Duncan. 2-4 with Duncan, Manu, Parker etc.
He was handed Finley in the Free Agent Sweepstakes this past summer. Bob Horry the year or two before. If he can't get it done with a lineup like he had, own up to it. Pop apologists keep deflecting attention from what came down this year. If you have a Championship lineup yes you are expected to deliver a Championship.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Larry Brown? Fuck no.

[SPARKY]

For all of LB's flaws, he still has a fairly good basketball mind. I'd take him over PJ as Pop's assistant/head adviser.

[GrandeDavid]

I really hope Pop wouldn't move to the front office or otherwise resign! Damn! But to answer your question, HELL NO to Larry Brown.

[Fabbs]

I don't think Pop is going anywhere until Duncan retires.

And I would never want Larry Brown here. He's a whiner. He's a nomad. He doesn't relate well to his players. And he's not loyal at all. The fact that he even spoke to Cleveland during the Pistons' 2005 playoff run is completely disgusting.
F' Larry Brown.


If Pop gets some more titles, great. If he goes 3-11 or 3-12 or whatever with the lineups he has had, I think that will be selfish crap also and hope the door hits his arse on the way out.

To the threads topic, no L.B. for me either.

[Solid D]

:lmao!!! Out of all the great Kings players over the past few years (Webber, Peja, Hedo, Bobby, Artest, Wells, Shareef, Bibby, Christie, Miller), you picked Vlade.

This might have been when you were pretty young, but Rick's Portland teams that went to the Finals weren't too shabby either. Wrapped around Drexler, he had Buck Williams, Terry Porter, and 6th man Drazen Petrovic. I think all four of them were all-star quality players.

[FromWayDowntown]

This might have been when you were pretty young, but Rick's Portland teams that went to the Finals weren't too shabby either. Wrapped around Drexler, he had Buck Williams, Terry Porter, and 6th man Drazen Petrovic. I think all four of them were all-star quality players.

To say nothing of Kevin Duckworth (also an All-Star) and Jerome Kersey.

The comparison of Pop's tactics with Riley's is quite apt. I'm absolutely certain that if the Spurs had a player like Walker or Haslem, Pop would have played that guy and stayed relatively big -- big enough that the crying about small ball would be quite hollow. The solution to that problem isn't to play a bunch of bigs who move a glacial speed against a team that is small and exploiting its speed advantage; the solution is to find bigs who are athletic. Pop didn't have those and his team probably lost because of it. But in my estimation, that's not a tactical decision within a series; it's a failure to identify the change in the style that would win at playoff time. And, by all accounts, it seems that the dramatic change in style has caught most of the basketball world by surprise.

Nevertheless, Popovich, whatever else you think of him, had his team in position to win that series. You can complain about the fact that the Spurs have only played in 3 Finals, but you might think about this in doing so: the Spurs could very easily have reached 5 Finals in Pop's time and have played in 4 straight if they'd just had a bit of luck. The last 2 eliminations have come by the slimmest of margins (.4 and whatever the hell we'll end up calling the last 30 seconds of Game 7) that had nothing whatsoever to do with Popovich.

As for overall value, Pop even admits that all of his success is attributable to Tim; but I think that's what makes him so effective in the end. With this bunch, I'll take Pop every day.

[Solid D]

Wow...that's very good stuff FWD.

[T Park]

FWD with another fantastic post.

But im sure the english genius clubalien will shout that down with more 3rd grade drivel.

[Brutalis]

FACT: Larry Brown will be bought out/fired/ousted as the NYK coach before next year.

FACT: Most of the blame for this years playoff underachievement is placed on the shoulders of Greg Popovich. Very little credit is given to our opponent.
FACT: A "shakeup" to bring back the excitement and spotlight to San Antonio Spurs basketball is looming and appropriately in order.
FACT: Hiring Larry Brown would do just that.

What do you think?? I'm NOT asking how "likely" you think it is...if it could happen, what do you think are the pros/cons? Would it work...or fail?


SOUND OFF:
Congrats for making one stupid ass thread.