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SpursStillTippin
06-10-2006, 09:59 PM
Just on hoopshype and yea i know thats not to reliable a source but they have on there that the Cavs might be looking to trade Larry Hughes, now i know he is a guard but he is a long guard that might be able to play a SF spot. Also on the same site had that Jason Terry is looking for a 6 yr contract from the Mavs, and it also had that Cuban doesn't like to give contracts out that long term..........oh well just a thought. but to be real i really wouldnt want Terry on our team. :fro

Spurologist
06-10-2006, 10:03 PM
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Please_dont_ban_me
06-10-2006, 10:06 PM
Awesome player.

He doesn't mind not being the main guy either. I'm not sure where he would fit in though. He's a point, maybe a 2. You can't groom him to replace Bowen...we'd be way too small.




I guess the only option would be to play him in a Speedy Claxton type role, where though he's a backup he still plays a lot of minutes...and at times put him on the court alongside Tony or Manu. I'd love to see him on this team. Great defender. Good team guy. Can explode on teams on the offensive end. Would be a good pickup.

Don't know who we would trade, though. But if it's reasonable I'd do it.

SpursStillTippin
06-10-2006, 10:06 PM
In the words of Homer Simpson "Duoh!!!!" lol yea he is a little injury prone but we really wouldnt need him to start, and he wouldnt be playing 40 mins a night like he did for the Cavs.

Slinkyman
06-10-2006, 10:06 PM
hoopshype is not hoopsworld, hoopsworld writes their own stories which are garbage while Hoopshype just posts links to newspaper articles which may or may not be garbage.

Big P
06-10-2006, 10:09 PM
People always get these 2 sites confused..hoopshype.com is a good site to read, alot of bball news collected from newspapers & such across the US...hoopsworld.com is the site that alot of people discredit.


Back to Hughes..1. He just got a huge contract last season, 2. He is a SG who can play the PG position in a pinch, not a SF, & 3. He is not what we need, maybe if we didn't have Manu, but I think we have the starting SG spot locked down.

SpursStillTippin
06-10-2006, 10:11 PM
Yea he is more of a guard type but he is a loooong guard who can play really really really good defense. Hughes plays the passing lanes as well as Manu does which could spark more fast break points for the spurs. but oh well it was just a thought.

Bob Lanier
06-10-2006, 10:13 PM
If you want Hughes, go for Ricky Davis from Minnesota. He's just as good, comes for half the price, and will play in twice as many games every year.

Hughes is an enormously overrated defender and an injury waiting to happen.

Please_dont_ban_me
06-10-2006, 10:16 PM
If you want Hughes, go for Ricky Davis from Minnesota. He's just as good, is half the price, and plays in twice the games.

Hughes is an enormously overrated defender and an injury waiting to happen.

Ricky Davis?

I don't know...if he's all that's available I'd rather get a big, or a backup PG.

FreshPrince22
06-10-2006, 10:17 PM
He sucks

Solid D
06-10-2006, 10:18 PM
Larry Hughes 2006-07.......2007-08....2008-09...2009-10
Salary..........$11,172,492 $12,000,084 $12,827,676 $13,655,258

http://www.hoopshype.com/salaries/cleveland.htm

Cant_Be_Faded
06-10-2006, 10:18 PM
dude he can't play the 3

i would like him as a spur though, he's tight

if only we didn't have serious issues to address

clubalien
06-10-2006, 10:37 PM
I just don't see him on the spurs. I judge players by hype. And there just isn't enough hype here.

ducks
06-10-2006, 10:38 PM
ferry take nazr and offer nazr that kind of money
come on ferry you owe it

hughes does not fit well with cavs
not sure I would want him either but fery owes it to the spurs to try to work something out
rasho and barry for him? I think the salries are close to

clubalien
06-10-2006, 10:48 PM
Cleveland Trade Breakdown
Outgoing

Larry Hughes
6-5 SG from St. Louis
15.5 ppg, 4.5 rpg, 3.6 apg in 35.6 minutes
Incoming

Rasho Nesterovic
7-0 C from Slovenia (Foreign)
4.5 ppg, 3.9 rpg, 0.4 apg in 19.0 minutes

Brent Barry
6-7 SG from Oregon State
5.8 ppg, 2.1 rpg, 1.7 apg in 17.0 minutes
Change in team outlook: -5.2 ppg, +1.5 rpg, and -1.5 apg.

San Antonio Trade Breakdown
Outgoing

Rasho Nesterovic
7-0 C from Slovenia (Foreign)
4.5 ppg, 3.9 rpg, 0.4 apg in 19.0 minutes

Brent Barry
6-7 SG from Oregon State
5.8 ppg, 2.1 rpg, 1.7 apg in 17.0 minutes
Incoming

Larry Hughes
6-5 SG from St. Louis
15.5 ppg, 4.5 rpg, 3.6 apg in 35.6 minutes
Change in team outlook: +5.2 ppg, -1.5 rpg, and +1.5 apg.


Successful Scenario
Due to Cleveland and San Antonio being over the cap, the 25% trade rule is invoked. Cleveland and San Antonio had to be no more than 125% plus $100,000 of the salary given out for the trade to be accepted, which did happen here. This trade satisfies the provisions of the Collective Bargaining Agreement.




Other than
"Melvin Sanders from San Antonio
Sanders was recently signed a contract and as a result he cannot be traded until Jun 26 June, 2006." this trade would work!

Cleveland Trade Breakdown
Outgoing

Larry Hughes
6-5 SG from St. Louis
15.5 ppg, 4.5 rpg, 3.6 apg in 35.6 minutes

LeBron James
6-8 SF from St. Vincent-St. Mary (HS)
31.4 ppg, 7.0 rpg, 6.6 apg in 42.6 minutes
Incoming

Rasho Nesterovic
7-0 C from Slovenia (Foreign)
4.5 ppg, 3.9 rpg, 0.4 apg in 19.0 minutes

Brent Barry
6-7 SG from Oregon State
5.8 ppg, 2.1 rpg, 1.7 apg in 17.0 minutes

Fabricio Oberto
6-10 PF from Argentina (Foreign)
1.8 ppg, 2.1 rpg, 0.5 apg in 8.3 minutes

Beno Udrih
6-3 PG from Slovenia (Foreign)
5.1 ppg, 1.0 rpg, 1.7 apg in 10.9 minutes

Melvin Sanders
6-5 SG from Oklahoma State
2.6 ppg, 1.4 rpg, 0.2 apg in 6.9 minutes
Change in team outlook: -27.1 ppg, -1.0 rpg, and -5.7 apg.

San Antonio Trade Breakdown
Outgoing

Rasho Nesterovic
7-0 C from Slovenia (Foreign)
4.5 ppg, 3.9 rpg, 0.4 apg in 19.0 minutes

Brent Barry
6-7 SG from Oregon State
5.8 ppg, 2.1 rpg, 1.7 apg in 17.0 minutes

Fabricio Oberto
6-10 PF from Argentina (Foreign)
1.8 ppg, 2.1 rpg, 0.5 apg in 8.3 minutes

Beno Udrih
6-3 PG from Slovenia (Foreign)
5.1 ppg, 1.0 rpg, 1.7 apg in 10.9 minutes

Melvin Sanders
6-5 SG from Oklahoma State
2.6 ppg, 1.4 rpg, 0.2 apg in 6.9 minutes
Incoming

Larry Hughes
6-5 SG from St. Louis
15.5 ppg, 4.5 rpg, 3.6 apg in 35.6 minutes

LeBron James
6-8 SF from St. Vincent-St. Mary (HS)
31.4 ppg, 7.0 rpg, 6.6 apg in 42.6 minutes
Change in team outlook: +27.1 ppg, +1.0 rpg, and +5.7 apg.


Successful Scenario
Due to Cleveland and San Antonio being over the cap, the 25% trade rule is invoked. Cleveland and San Antonio had to be no more than 125% plus $100,000 of the salary given out for the trade to be accepted, which did happen here. This trade satisfies the provisions of the Collective Bargaining Agreement.

Please_dont_ban_me
06-10-2006, 10:49 PM
Rasho & Barry for Hughes?


Lmao. If Ferry does that he should be locked out of his office on the spot and fired.

clubalien
06-10-2006, 10:51 PM
ofcourse the trade works without him but would they give lebron up for so little I doubt it but i mean if he demand a trade tospurs maybe. and we know everyone wants to play for pop

Cleveland Trade Breakdown
Outgoing

Larry Hughes
6-5 SG from St. Louis
15.5 ppg, 4.5 rpg, 3.6 apg in 35.6 minutes

LeBron James
6-8 SF from St. Vincent-St. Mary (HS)
31.4 ppg, 7.0 rpg, 6.6 apg in 42.6 minutes
Incoming

Rasho Nesterovic
7-0 C from Slovenia (Foreign)
4.5 ppg, 3.9 rpg, 0.4 apg in 19.0 minutes

Brent Barry
6-7 SG from Oregon State
5.8 ppg, 2.1 rpg, 1.7 apg in 17.0 minutes

Fabricio Oberto
6-10 PF from Argentina (Foreign)
1.8 ppg, 2.1 rpg, 0.5 apg in 8.3 minutes

Beno Udrih
6-3 PG from Slovenia (Foreign)
5.1 ppg, 1.0 rpg, 1.7 apg in 10.9 minutes
Change in team outlook: -29.7 ppg, -2.4 rpg, and -5.9 apg.

San Antonio Trade Breakdown
Outgoing

Rasho Nesterovic
7-0 C from Slovenia (Foreign)
4.5 ppg, 3.9 rpg, 0.4 apg in 19.0 minutes

Brent Barry
6-7 SG from Oregon State
5.8 ppg, 2.1 rpg, 1.7 apg in 17.0 minutes

Fabricio Oberto
6-10 PF from Argentina (Foreign)
1.8 ppg, 2.1 rpg, 0.5 apg in 8.3 minutes

Beno Udrih
6-3 PG from Slovenia (Foreign)
5.1 ppg, 1.0 rpg, 1.7 apg in 10.9 minutes
Incoming

Larry Hughes
6-5 SG from St. Louis
15.5 ppg, 4.5 rpg, 3.6 apg in 35.6 minutes

LeBron James
6-8 SF from St. Vincent-St. Mary (HS)
31.4 ppg, 7.0 rpg, 6.6 apg in 42.6 minutes
Change in team outlook: +29.7 ppg, +2.4 rpg, and +5.9 apg.


Successful Scenario
Due to Cleveland and San Antonio being over the cap, the 25% trade rule is invoked. Cleveland and San Antonio had to be no more than 125% plus $100,000 of the salary given out for the trade to be accepted, which did happen here. This trade satisfies the provisions of the Collective Bargaining Agreement.

clubalien
06-10-2006, 10:53 PM
I just noticed when I looked at my trade i traded all white players for black players

I asure you as a white boy that wasn't done on purpose haha

SpursStillTippin
06-10-2006, 11:01 PM
I just noticed when I looked at my trade i traded all white players for black players

I asure you as a white boy that wasn't done on purpose haha

:lol you damn racists prick!!! lol naw j/p

Kori Ellis
06-11-2006, 02:46 AM
Larry Hughes 2006-07.......2007-08....2008-09...2009-10
Salary..........$11,172,492 $12,000,084 $12,827,676 $13,655,258

http://www.hoopshype.com/salaries/cleveland.htm

That's way too much for Larry Hughes. That's almost Duncan type money. (Well not quite, but more than Tony/Manu)

ChumpDumper
06-11-2006, 03:14 AM
WTF? Did Ferry actually shell out that money for LARRY HUGHES? I have trouble believing that - if i do I have lost some respect for Ferry.

No wonder he's shopping him.

Texas_Ranger
06-11-2006, 03:16 AM
Larry is a good player, he plays great defense, he`s got a good mid-range shot and he is a good assister and rebounder. But our team cannot afford him, because he is overpaid player and he earns to much money.

timvp
06-11-2006, 03:19 AM
WTF? Did Ferry actually shell out that money for LARRY HUGHES? I have trouble believing that - if i do I have lost some respect for Ferry.

No wonder he's shopping him.

Word is that it was the owner's call. The Hughes deal wasn't handled by Ferry.

ChumpDumper
06-11-2006, 03:21 AM
Word is holy shit that's alot to pay for a china doll role player.

Ariel
06-11-2006, 04:07 AM
WTF? Did Ferry actually shell out that money for LARRY HUGHES? I have trouble believing that - if i do I have lost some respect for Ferry.
Yes, in itself that wasn't a good move, much like signing Ilgauskas for a 5 years, 50M+ contract... but I have to wonder if it wasn't about them as it was about LeBron.

Maybe Danny Ferry's assessment was that the chances of keeping LeBron long term substantially increased if they provided some immediate help, that might prove a burden down the road, once they had already extended LeBron.

If the choice was between Hughes, Ilgauskas and LeBron... or eventually none, then I can understand it. If not...

Pandaemonaeon
06-11-2006, 07:15 AM
Hughes is an enormously overrated defender and an injury waiting to happen.

Quoted for truth.

He's an okay defender but all this talk about his D stems from his misleading steals average that he pads by cherrypicking at the passing lanes. Coach Pop would blow an artery if he pulls that bullshit in San Antonio.

That, and he's grossly overpaid, injury prone and does too many Stephen Jackson-esque idiot mistakes.

strangeweather
06-11-2006, 08:19 AM
Yes, in itself that wasn't a good move, much like signing Ilgauskas for a 5 years, 50M+ contract... but I have to wonder if it wasn't about them as it was about LeBron.

Maybe Danny Ferry's assessment was that the chances of keeping LeBron long term substantially increased if they provided some immediate help, that might prove a burden down the road, once they had already extended LeBron.

If the choice was between Hughes, Ilgauskas and LeBron... or eventually none, then I can understand it. If not...
I agree -- they had to do everything they could to convince LeBron that they were surrounding him with a team that could contend.

Those contracts are horrible, though -- truly Knicksworthy.

SPARKY
06-11-2006, 08:41 AM
If the Spurs acquire a 27 year old perimeter player it will be Jumaine Jones.

exstatic
06-11-2006, 11:17 AM
If we're dead set on getting someone who makes "Stephen Jackson mistakes", I'd rather it be Stephen Jackson himself. He's got the size we're looking for, and balls the size of coconuts in clutch time.

kris
06-11-2006, 11:26 AM
I'm not a fan of Larry Hughes game. He doesn't impress me any way I look at him.

Ariel
06-11-2006, 12:15 PM
If we're dead set on getting someone who makes "Stephen Jackson mistakes", I'd rather it be Stephen Jackson himself. He's got the size we're looking for, and balls the size of coconuts in clutch time.
Somehow I always wondered if his 'clutch shooting' was about having 'balls the size of coconuts', or a coconut for a head...

Oh well, I suppose they usually go hand and hand...

exstatic
06-11-2006, 12:50 PM
:lol I think it's a matter of having no fear, Ariel. Whether that's due to lack of a brain or not, we may never know. All signs indicate that may be the case, though.

Aggie Hoopsfan
06-11-2006, 01:01 PM
First, he's overpaid.

Second, he's not a good fit for the Spurs. We need a three, Hughes = not a three.