Spurs Acquire Matt Bonner And Eric Williams From Toronto For Rasho

[Old School Chic]

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SAN ANTONIO – The San Antonio Spurs announced today that they have acquired Matt Bonner, Eric Williams and a 2009 second round draft pick from the Toronto Raptors in exchange for Rasho Nesterovic.


“We are excited about the additions of Matt and Eric,” Spurs General Manager R.C. Buford said. “Matt is a big guy who has the unique ability of knocking down the outside shot which will help us spread the floor. Eric gives us a steady veteran presence and some added depth at the forward position.”



Bonner, a 6-10 forward, has spent the past two seasons with the Raptors. Last year he appeared in 78 games, averaging 7.5 points and 3.6 rebounds in 21.9 minutes a game while shooting .448 (209-467) from the field, .420 (102-243) from three-point range which tied for 12th in the NBA, and .829 (63-76) from the free throw line. During his rookie season in 2004-05 he shot .533 (247-463) from the field and .424 (39-92) from beyond the arc while scoring 7.3 points a game. For his career the former Florida Gator has appeared in 160 games, averaging 7.3 points and 3.6 rebounds in 20.4 minutes per game.



Williams, an 11-year NBA veteran, played in 28 games for the Raptors last season, averaging 3.3 points and 1.8 rebounds in 12.6 minutes a game. Prior to being traded to Toronto midway through the 2004-05 season, he started in 21 games for the New Jersey Nets, averaging 12.6 points, 4.5 rebounds and 2.0 assists in 35.2 minutes per game. For his career, the 6-8 forward has played in 637 games for five teams (Toronto – 2005-06; New Jersey – 2004-05; Cleveland – 2003-04 and Boston – 1995-97, 1999-2004), averaging 8.8 points, 3.3 rebounds and 1.5 assists in 24.5 minutes a game.



Nesterovic joined the Spurs as a free agent in the summer of 2003 after spending five seasons with the Minnesota Timberwolves. During his three seasons with Silver and Black the 7-0 center averaged 6.4 points, 6.0 rebounds and 1.59 blocks while starting in 203 of 232 games. In 2004-05 he helped guide the Spurs to their third NBA Championship. For his career, Nesterovic has appeared in 548 games, averaging 7.0 points, 5.7 rebounds, 1.30 blocks and 1.0 assists in 24.1 minutes per game.



“It’s difficult to part with such a class act as Rasho, but in order to get quality you have to give up quality,” added Buford “We want to thank Rasho for his valuable contributions to the organization and the community over the last three years and wish him the best of luck in Toronto.”



The Spurs are currently preparing for the 2006 NBA Draft which will be held June 28. The Silver and Black have the 59th overall pick. For more information of the NBA Draft and the latest spurs news visit www.spurs.com.

[CharlieMac]

Rasho says.........."Ughhhhhhhhh." in response.

[Streakyshooter08]

Wow...

[Leetonidas]

WTF. :wow

[Old School Chic]

I'm sorry Angeluv :depressed

[MoSpur]

YES!!!! They did the unbelievable.

[Budkin]

Sorry Angel and RashoFan. :depressed

I feel for you guys but I have to say I'm personally relieved.

[CharlieMac]

I kind of feel like I just peeked at my Christmas present. The suprise element is gone.

[TxJudsonRocketTx]

Wow...wasnt expecting this at all. Does this mean that Nazr stays?

[Spurologist]

Breathe Rasho Breathe

http://i.cnn.net/si/2003/magazine/10/20/spurs/p1_spurs.jpg

You had a great run.

[Dunc]

Decent trade for both teams. Bonner's got good range and another decent shooter coming off the bench, and the Raps need a center.

[picnroll]

Williams has one year left on his contract at $4,296,000, player option.

[Leetonidas]

Be alert everyone, we are now on angel_luv suicide watch.

[FreshPrince22]

wow

[CharlieMac]

Could trading Villanueva be far off?

[picnroll]

Rasho is probable happy. He'll get minutes now.

Wonder if this is clearing space for Scola. That only leaves Javtokas and Duncan to man the big boys in the post providing Nazr is gone.

[Old School Chic]

Be alert everyone, we are now on angel_luv suicide watch.

:lol

[Streakyshooter08]

Does that help salary wise?

[v2freak]

From a buisness standpoint, this trade makes sense and will help the Spurs greatly. But as a class act like RC said, I'll miss Rasho.

[ChumpDumper]

My thinking is a good suitor for Rasho would be Toronto, depending on their draft. Colangelo is all about versatile lineups and Araujo doesn't look like he's ever going to be the traditional center they will need to compete in the Eastern Conference, and Rasho's deal will end just around the time the young guys will need to be paid.

Taking ballast like Araujo and Eric Williams off the Raptors hands may give us an advantage over some other teams like Milwaukee who will want something closer to equal value, and we might just be able to use Williams as a stopgap long 3 until someone else is found. Otherwisehe and Araujo could be waived or traded again since they are in the last year of their deals.
http://spurstalk.com/forums/showpost.php?p=993218&postcount=20

So I was one player off.

In your face, GiG.

:smokin

[MoSpur]

Williams has a player option this year, which I think he will exercise. Bonner is free next season. Big time cap relief. I wonder what is next for the Spurs

[Holt's Cat]

Pwaise Jesus.

[SenorSpur]

Thank you Lawd!

[Spurologist]

For now this is the lineup

Starters
TP
Manu
Bruce
TD
Nazr

Bench
Barry
FIN
Horry
Oberto
Williams
Bonner
Beno
Marks

I expect more moves.

[Bob Lanier]

Good trade for both teams. I like EWill more than Bonner, but the Spurs get rid of Rasho's contract, and the Raps get a serviceable true center.

[CharlieMac]

Also, you have to think the Spurs aren't done. Could they be bringing in another big eventually? pop wasn't exactly Nazr Fan #1 towards the end of this season and Horry is done when it comes to being mobile during a game. .

[MoSpur]

The Spurs save themselves like $1.5 mil this season and somewhere around $15 mil after next season.

[clubalien]

I think the pick we got will be packages for antoehr trade

[Mr. Body]

Rasho gets to play less defense and use his offensive capabilities more.

[Streakyshooter08]

The only thing that bothers me is: If Nazr leaves also, who is our starting C? We need some guy against Yao/Shaq...

[CharlieMac]

http://spurstalk.com/forums/showpost.php?p=993218&postcount=20

So I was one player off.

In your face, GiG.

:smokin


I beleive the words were , "No fucking way"?

[MoSpur]

The Spurs aren't done. They don't have a center under contract for next season.

[CharlieMac]

The Spurs save themselves like $1.5 mil this season and somewhere around $15 mil after next season.

Wow, that's a lot of money. Spurs are looking far ahead to Timmy's decline.

[IceColdBrewski]

The stiff is gone. Oh happy day.

[ChumpDumper]

The Spurs aren't done. They don't have a center under contract for next season.http://www.lrt.lt/eurolyga/images/structure/1135_s.jpg

[FreshPrince22]

This puts the Raptors over the top.

The balance of power has shifted.

[Leetonidas]

My guess is the press conference is not about this, but about something else.

[CharlieMac]

My guess is the press conference is not about this, but about something else.

Think so? When was the last time we traded someone. Did we have a press conference, I really dont remember.

[SenorSpur]

The only thing that bothers me is: If Nazr leaves also, who is our starting C? We need some guy against Yao/Shaq...

Maybe this move somehow clears the way for the Spurs to resign Nazr.

[picnroll]

This could also make the Spurs a major player in the 07-08 FA market or the 08-09.

[Leetonidas]

Think so? When was the last time we traded someone. Did we have a press conference, I really dont remember.

We traded Malik mid-season though, so you never know.

Things are going to get interesting...

[CharlieMac]

Maybe this move somehow clears the way for the Spurs to resign Nazr.


Or say, "See ya" and go after someone else.

[dbestpro]

6-10 240 College: Florida
26 years old
Career (2 seasons, Toronto)
42.1% fro 3pt
81% FT
7.3 ppg
3.6 rpg

Go to http://www.nba.com/playerfile/matt_bonner/index.html
and do a player comparison. Pretty awesome.

[infinite styles]

Holy SHIT!!! :wow

[CharlieMac]

This could also make the Spurs a major player in the 07-08 FA market or the 08-09.


I'm telling you, Spurs are looking way ahead here to Timmy losing his step.

[sa_butta]

I think this is good deal even though we lose a few inches, but 3 for 1 aint bad. Bonner looks alot stronger and more physical.

[MoSpur]

I think two foreign players are on their way.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

http://www.lrt.lt/eurolyga/images/structure/1135_s.jpg
I hear ya bro! :smokin

http://www.fibaeurope.com/files/%7bDF1EB002-AC0B-42D2-BCC5-73BB1A3A57A6%7dlarge_v.jpg Javtokas for 2007!

[SenorSpur]

When does the NBA allow teams to resume trading? Is the dealine lifted after the conclusion of the NBA finals?

[Das Texan]

whoa.


thats pretty cool.

[CharlieMac]

When does the NBA allow teams to resume trading? Is the dealine lifted after the conclusion of the NBA finals?

That's what the boys at the ticket are saying.

[DDS4]

Spurs front office pulled another rabbit out of the hat. Wow.

[rayray2k8]

Oh thank god they got rid of that piece of shit.
NO more Rasho minute!! :elephant :lol :smokin :spin

[alamo50]

It's about damn time Timmy told Pop to swallow his pride!!!

[SenorSpur]

That's what the boys at the ticket are saying.

Boy, the Spurs didn't waste any time. Props to the FO. Keep those moves coming.

[Leetonidas]

That's what the boys at the ticket are saying.

I believe if the player isn't in an option year or something, the teams can begin trading as soon as their season ends. Remember, Utah and Toronto made a trade a few weeks ago.

[clubalien]

now that the spurs aren't a threat to win the nba title teams are willing to trade with us

[MoSpur]

I am so happy right now. Thanks for breaking the news OSC

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

It IS pretty awesome.

[Old School Chic]

I am so happy right now. Thanks for breaking the news OSC


:tu

[ShoogarBear]

Whoosh, eh?

[Lakerfan]

Wow this trade sucks ass for you guys.

[CharlieMac]

Wow this trade sucks ass for you guys.


Yeah, Rasho is worth every cent of those 23 million he has left on his contract.

[Mixability]

Wow this trade sucks ass for you guys.

how'd that Shaq trade work out?

[Old School Chic]

:elephant :elephant :elephant

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[Mixability]

Be alert everyone, we are now on angel_luv suicide watch.

the suicide watch will be over once the Spurs draft someone "dreamy"

[Spurologist]

Spurs free throw percentage on the rise.

Bonner shoots 80+
TP shot 80+ in the playoffs
Williams @ 74 %

[ShoogarBear]

Maybe if we dye Bonner's hair, angel won't know the difference.

[degenerate_gambler]

Cap wise....great move guys

[CharlieMac]

:elephant :elephant :elephant

http://graphics.sdm3.com/Spurs//uploads/Spurs/ENews/leads/060621.jpg


Beauty comes to the Spurs.

[Old School Chic]

http://graphics.sdm3.com/Spurs//uploads/Spurs/ENews/leads/060621.jpg

[jman3000]

I'm not conviced that we would be willing to trade 1 bloated contract (Rasho) for what will almost certaintly be another (Nazr). I'd say something else is cooking... maybe something big.

[rayray2k8]

the suicide watch will be over once the Spurs draft someone "dreamy"
:lmao

[Old School Chic]

Maybe if we dye Bonner's hair, angel won't know the difference.

:lol

[ChumpDumper]

It's about damn time Timmy told Pop to swallow his pride!!!
:wtf

[clubalien]

big as in ben wallace, jobe braynt, lebron james maybe? that big or big as in ron mercer?

[rayray2k8]

I'm not conviced that we would be willing to trade 1 bloated contract (Rasho) for what will almost certaintly be another (Nazr). I'd say something else is cooking... maybe something big.
I get the feeling too.
This trade wouldnt make sense if the spurs werent planning on doing something.
I mean, with Rasho now gone and Nazr on the way out, the spurs wouldnt pull that trade if they didnt have something in mind.
maybe.. >> :fro
Hmm....
Nah. :lol

[Leetonidas]

Ben Wallace?

...

*Wakes Up*

[degenerate_gambler]

I'm not conviced that we would be willing to trade 1 bloated contract (Rasho) for what will almost certaintly be another (Nazr). I'd say something else is cooking... maybe something big.



Yeah it's hard for me to believe that Nazr will be wearing the silver and black next year.

[angel_luv]

I'm sorry Angeluv :depressed

Thank you.

I wasn't prepared for this and am not taking it well.

I'm heart broke. Sho's not coming home.

My stomach really hurts guys.

[Matt Bonner's Gone]

Noooo Matt Boner was my favorite player...Rasho what a weird name

[ShoogarBear]

Yeah, Brent Barry used to be a good FT shooter, too. Then he became a Spur.

[Please_dont_ban_me]

Damn, look at everyone in here.

1) You think this means we're bringing Nazr back?

2) From the description of Boner, he seems like a glorified Sean Marks.

3) Erik Williams is a beast. I hope we don't cut him, if he's who I think he is ... he's a solid defender and would be a great role player.

[beirmeistr]

Even though Rasho turned out to be too slow for the Spurs' offense, it is somewhat sad to see him go. He was a good soldier. But a great move budget-wise.

[jman3000]

I highly doubt it's gonna be something Earth shattering ... but the feeling of the trade has cap space writting all over it. Ben Wallace is certaintly a name that will be talked about, but again, I highly doubt somebody of that magnitude.

[Lakerfan]

I like it up the ass.

[ShoogarBear]

Boner. :lol Yeah, there is going to be a lot of that on the boards.

[George Gervin's Afro]

Matt Bonner likes to fuck Popovich up the ass.



:nutkick:

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

Yeah, Brent Barry used to be a good FT shooter, too. Then he became a Spur.
:lmao

[CharlieMac]

What about Rasho's commercial?

[strangeweather]

http://spurstalk.com/forums/showpost.php?p=993218&postcount=20

So I was one player off.

In your face, GiG.

:smokin

I remember that post -- nice call. :tu

[ShoogarBear]

I didn't pay too much attention to Bonner. Can he stay with Dirk on D?

[Matt Bonner's Gone]

You guys will be mad when you see that Eric Williams is old and can't play anymore, and Matt Boner is the worst defender in the league and has terrible handles. Also Boner hits the side of the backboard when anyone contests his shot, or gets an airball.

The best part of this deal for you guys is probably the draft pick...but the "Red Rocket"(Boner) is pretty solid acquisition.

[gameFACE]

Don’t let the door hit you on the way out. Basically we’re trading an expensive non-athletic big for a cheap non-athletic big.

That $15mil next year is pretty cool if it’s true.

[ShoogarBear]

Matt Boner is the worst defender in the league and has terrible handles. Also Boner hits the side of the backboard when anyone contests his shot, or gets an airball.


Cool . . . a white Nazr.

[angel_luv]

Whoosh, eh?


Don't. Seriously! Please!



the suicide watch will be over once the Spurs draft someone "dreamy"



Maybe if we dye Bonner's hair, angel won't know the difference.

And quit that too. I am really sad about this. It isn't funny to me.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Great trade by the Spurs front office, another rabbit out of the hat.

[weebo]

With Rasho gone,I feel like we just won another championship trophy.

[jman3000]

that 3 point fg% and that height are very interesting... I could see him shooting 45+ with the Spurs.

[Please_dont_ban_me]

When does the NBA allow teams to resume trading? Is the dealine lifted after the conclusion of the NBA finals?

My guess is the Spurs had this deal done for a while.

They just couldn't announce it until the finals were over, per league rules.

[Mr. Body]

My guess is the Spurs had this deal done for a while.

They just couldn't announce it until the finals were over, per league rules.

Well, they certainly didn't think of it today.

[dbestpro]

Long term cap flexibility. Both contracts expire next summer.
Bonner 2mil (06-07)
Williams 4.296 mil (06-07)

Nesterovic
7.28 mil (06-07)
7.84 mil (07-08)
8.4 mil (08-09)

Savings
.984 mil (06-07)
7.84 mil (07-08)
8.4 mil (08-09)

total savings 17.224 mil

[ShoogarBear]

Laker Fan is mad that Mav Fan took his place over the last month.

[ShoogarBear]

Well, they certainly didn't think of it today.

:lmao :lmao

[ducks]

williams is a player's option I think

[resistanze]

Pretty good trade for both sides. Although I don't think Rasho is worth the cash, I don't know if you could've gotten a better deal in this Center-hungry market.

Now Bosh could be a dedicated PF! Colangelo at work... :elephant

[MannyIsGod]

I highly doubt it's gonna be something Earth shattering ... but the feeling of the trade has cap space writting all over it. Ben Wallace is certaintly a name that will be talked about, but again, I highly doubt somebody of that magnitude.We're still over the cap.

[T Park]

Bonner always struck me as a "David Wood" type.

Eric Williams is washed up.


Guess this is the best they could do.


Not excited that much over this.

[Matt Bonner's Gone]

Rasho isnt that bad guys....as a raps fan I'm satisfied by Bryan Colangelos move. Rasho is a solid center(in raptor standards lol) and you guys get 3pt shooting Boner and an ok defender, with horse teeth eric williams.

[Bruno]

Long term cap flexibility. Both contracts expire next summer.
Bonner 2mil (06-07)
Williams 4.296 mil (06-07)

Nesterovic
7.28 mil (06-07)
7.84 mil (07-08)
8.4 mil (08-09)

Savings
.984 mil (06-07)
7.84 mil (07-08)
8.4 mil (08-09)

total savings 17.224 mil

I've read that Spurs have given some cash too ($3M is the max you can give)

[strangeweather]

Long term cap flexibility. Both contracts expire next summer.
Bonner 2mil (06-07)
Williams 4.296 mil (06-07)

Nesterovic
7.28 mil (06-07)
7.84 mil (07-08)
8.4 mil (08-09)

Savings
.984 mil (06-07)
7.84 mil (07-08)
8.4 mil (08-09)

total savings 17.224 mil
Hooray for cap savings. Now we can afford to sign people again. :tu

[Please_dont_ban_me]

You guys will be mad when you see that Eric Williams is old and can't play anymore, and Matt Boner is the worst defender in the league and has terrible handles. Also Boner hits the side of the backboard when anyone contests his shot, or gets an airball.

The best part of this deal for you guys is probably the draft pick...but the "Red Rocket"(Boner) is pretty solid acquisition.

So?

Worst case scenario they both suck and are our 11th and 12 man. We still saved a shitload of money. :D

[violentkitten]

mavs choke and spurs dump rasho? damn right it was a good week.

[strangeweather]

We're still over the cap.
But not pressing up against the luxury tax quite so much, at least after this year.

[MannyIsGod]

Not this year we can't. We're still over the cap and we'll just have the Exceptions. Being slightly under the cap isn't all its cracked up to be because you lose the MLE and LLE.

It is a good move, but not something that is going to make the Spurs a huge free agent player. Don't forget we have overseas players that are going to take money if we ever bring them in.

[picnroll]

If Spurs wanted to how soon could they turn around and trade Bonner or Williams as ending contracts?

[Matt Bonner's Gone]

So?

Worst case scenario they both suck and are our 11th and 12 man. We still saved a shitload of money. :D

dam you spurs and your money...and your super roster...and that big fundamental

[violentkitten]

got damn the spurs managed to dump malik and rashos salaries. they better make some moves now we lost to the fucking mavs, man. the fucking choke ass suckass dallas mavericks. get better.

[bendmz]

Yeah, Brent Barry used to be a good FT shooter, too. Then he became a Spur.
:lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao

[boutons_]

Angel and RashoFan,

Very sorry, girls. I was really excited when Rasho signed, saw him playing out his contract alongside Tim, Twin Towers Version 2.

But Rasho has nobody to blame but himself.

He never put up the numbers for the Spurs that he had @MIN, which was probably all that the Spurs were asking for. It looks like the Spurs just didn't think Rasho was worth the money.

Bon voyage, Rasho.

[FromWayDowntown]

This is a great deal for the Spurs, even if Bonner and Williams prove to be completely useless on the floor. Last year, the Spurs struggled to make a deal, I think, mostly because they didn't have any disposable players who anyone really wanted (Barry was close, but even that doesn't sound like a deal that arose because someone called wanting Brent Barry) AND they didn't have any expiring contracts to sell and give other teams cap relief. Now, you have not only gotten rid of Rasho AND acquired a guy who might be Ferry-like, but you've got at least 2 deals that you can ship out in a trade to address some problem that might arise. So, the Spurs got a look at 2 players to see if either brings anything -- essentially for free, given what they gave up -- and they get pieces they might be able to parlay into something even bigger and better.

Nice job.

[Please_dont_ban_me]

Sean Marks 4 Center :elephant

[Matt Bonner's Gone]

Angel and RashoFan,

Very sorry, girls. I was really excited when Rasho signed, saw him playing out his contract alongside Tim, Twin Towers Version 2.

But Rasho has nobody to blame but himself.

He never put up the numbers for the Spurs that he had @MIN, which was probably all that the Spurs were asking for. It looks like the Spurs just didn't think Rasho was worth the money.

Bon voyage, Rasho.

the twin towers didnt work for the spurs

...but now its the Triple Towers of....Rasho...Chris Bosh..and Charlie Villenueva

[Phenomanul]

Angel_luv... don't do anything harsh... If the forum lost you it would be worse than the Spurs loosing Rasho. :angel

[dbestpro]

Williams contract is a player option for 06-07 which he will obviously use unless the Spurs present him with a buyout. That could free up an additional 4.296 mil for 06-07.

[Please_dont_ban_me]

Watching highlights just now of Boner on WOAI...

He has a nice stroke, and looks like he can run the court. Good shit.

[Please_dont_ban_me]

:lol @ the only highlight of Erik Williams being a hard foul on TP.

[IcemanCometh]

Holy Fuck I Can't Believe The Raptors Are That Dumb

[clubalien]

violentkitten, if the spurs are looking to dump saleries then certiainly that trade posted ealier for lebron makes since Tim is the biggest contract on the spurs. Lebron is on a very cheap contract and is a great value.

[Phenomanul]

violentkitten, if the spurs are looking to dump saleries then certiainly that trade posted ealier for lebron makes since Tim is the biggest contract on the spurs. Lebron is on a very cheap contract and is a great value.

:wtf

[Please_dont_ban_me]

Holy Fuck I Can't Believe The Raptors Are That Dumb

I can't believe I'm going to say this but...

Rasho is not that bad. Collangelo is not that stupid. He will fit in ok there, and they will be alrite...as will we. Win win situation.

[T Park]

Yeah good luck with that :lol


Once again.


Im not floored with the possibilities of Eric Williams.


Hes old, wershed up.

Hopefully hes parlayed to a worse team for something......


Reminiscint of getting Turkoglu and Mercer.

[Lebowski Brickowski]

Well -- Saving money -- BFD again, nothing to get too excited about. ---

We definintely lose on the defensive end -- UNLESS Pop thinks Javtokus can come in and defend like Rasho right away. -- which I doubt he does.

[Matt Bonner's Gone]

if you spurs fans want to see why Boner was picked up its because you lack a good dunker
boner at his best
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtyaarskQE4&search=matt%20bonner

[boutons_]

Bonner could be a sleeper whose hustle turns into some real contributions for the Spurs. Only 2 years in the league, he still might step up his game.

[Sense]

We still need our center.

[FromWayDowntown]

Reminiscint of getting Turkoglu and Mercer.

I think that's right. If you find something, great. If you don't, you really haven't given up anything that hurts.

[MannyIsGod]

Who cares what they get in return? Rasho was dead weight and now the lose a year off the contract. There's would have been no downside to trading Rasho for a seat cushion with one year left on its contract. Actually, the seat cushion would probably see more action.

[MannyIsGod]

Bonner could be a sleeper whose hustle turns into some real contributions for the Spurs. Only 2 years in the league, he still might step up his game.True, the guy has a shot and is pertty long. If he can hustle and be scrappy, I can see Danny Ferry all over again.

[picnroll]

if you spurs fans want to see why Boner was picked up its because you lack a good dunker
boner at his best
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtyaarskQE4&search=matt%20bonner


Here's one of Rasho's dunks

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtya...h=matt%20nesterovic

[ChumpDumper]

The only real downside is Yao is going to fucking own us if we don't get another dreadnaught C.

Since the FO traded Rasho to Toronto like I told them to, I request they bring Andreas Glyniadakis to their summer league team.

[Manu20]

We still need our center.


http://bc.lrytas.lt/img/pics/15-javtokas.jpg

[Please_dont_ban_me]

if you spurs fans want to see why Boner was picked up its because you lack a good dunker
boner at his best
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtyaarskQE4&search=matt%20bonner

He's so...white.

[timvp]

Great, great trade.

Matt Bonner is one of my favorite players in the league. This guy is the Malik Rose or Udonis Haslem the Spurs needed. I love his hustle ... plus he has an outside shot.

Eric Williams isn't half bad either.

Plus a second round pick? For Rasho?

:elephant

Christmas came early.

[Matt Bonner's Gone]

Here's one of Rasho's dunks

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtya...h=matt%20nesterovic

vid didnt work

[JsnSA]

Spurs free throw percentage on the rise.

Bonner shoots 80+
TP shot 80+ in the playoffs
Williams @ 74 %


NO...Bonner USED to shoot 80+ .


Now it will be around 75. Williams will fall to 70.


Don't you know there is something down here that scews up peoples FT shot.

[boutons_]

I haven't paid much attention to Bonner, but I seem to remember him banging around, getting boards, active, hitting some shots. Hope he commits soon to playing D.

[ploto]

When Rasho left Minnesota, the following article was written by Britt Robson. He speaks the words that I can not form right now.


Wednesday, July 16, 2003

Losing Rasho

Rasho Nesterovic, who announced on Tuesday that he is rejecting the Timberwolves' contract offer to go and play in San Antonio, is one of kindest, gentliest people I have ever encountered inside or outside the world of sports. Even after he became fluent in English, the seven-foot Slovenian has answered reporters' questions with terse, humble platitudes, always steering his answers toward team performance and results, while magnifying his faults and downplaying his strengths on the court. When I did a Hang Time column about him back in January of 2002, Timberwolves' assistant coach Randy Wittman told me that at the age of 15, Rasho had lost close family members during the civil war that occurred after Yugoslavia fell apart. Rasho confirmed the news without getting into details, and seemed grateful both that I raised the issue and didn't pry further. After that, whenever our eyes would meet in the locker room, he'd acknowledge me with a slight lift of the chin, and maybe even a small smile. Charles Hallman, the sportswriter for the Minneapolis Spokesmen-Recorder, told me he developed a similarly subtle mini-rapport after doing a personal story on Rasho.

The point here is that Rasho is a shy, sensitive soul not given to many outward displays of emotion, a person and player whose emotions and competitive fire are often turned inward. In many respects this has hindered the quality and consistency of his play; he has never really learned how to handle the rough-and-tumble jousting that occurs under the basket, and when he makes a mistake or two, he is prone to lose confidence. All this made him an uncomfortable match with his superstar teammate, Kevin Garnett, who is nearly his polar opposite emotionally. When a teammate isn't going well, KG gets in his face, not necessarily in a negative way, but with encouragement that's laced with fire and an overt challenge to improve. And when Rasho or another Wolves' teammate does something spectacular, the exuberant Garnett is likely to acknowledge it by whacking him in the head or bumping him in the chest, a display of macho warrior brotherhood. Most of the time, Rasho crawled further into his shell when KG challenged him, and received his whacks and bumps with a forced camaraderie that looked as if he were tolerating an unpleasantry.

Of all the Wolves players, the person who probably liked and understood him best, and defended him against criticism most consistently, was Wally Szczerbiak, whose locker is just two stalls away from Rasho's at the Target Center. That's not a great ally, given that Szczerbiak is not well-liked by most members of the team, and has had an uneasy at best relationship with Garnett ever since he arrived. Rasho is a loyal guy, and in his own quiet way probably resented the way Wally was treated and perceived. Finally, it has been reported on ESPN.com that Rasho and coach Flip Saunders didn't get along. There weren't many overt signs that this was so, but it is true that Saunders was loath to play Rasho at crunch time, especially in the fourth quarter of close games. The coach explained that this was because of Rasho's poor foul shooting, but there were certainly times when Rasho's other contributions would, and should, have outweighed that potential pitfall.

Put it all together--KG, Szczerbiak, Saunders--and it is not hard to see why Rasho opted for San Antonio. Like Rasho, Tim Duncan is a quietly fiery competitor who rarely gets in the face of his teammates. The team has just won its second championship and had sufficient salary cap room to offer Rasho roughly the same amount of money he'd be receiving in Minnesota. One of the determining factors in Rasho's decisions seems to have been a meeting he had with coach Gregg Popovich, who no doubt sussed up Rasho's personality and realized lots of positive strokes would be most effective.

In any event, the loss of Rasho is a huge blow to the Wolves' franchise, especially on the heels of Sunday's news that free agent forward Juwan Howard would sign with Orlando instead of Minnesota. Kevin McHale and the rest of the team's front office will have to act fast and boldly if they are to convince Kevin Garnett to re-sign with the team. But that's another column for the near future. This one is to say goodbye to Rasho, a class act who probably made the right choice for his future happiness and ongoing improvement in the years ahead.

[texasqb2]

Are you sure we are going to keep these guys? When could we officially trade them?

[dbestpro]

Bottom Line: Great Trade
Spurs save 14 mil over 3 years.

Get an additional 1 mil for next year and maybe 5.3 mil total if they buy Williams out on his player option year for next season.

[boutons_]

"42.1% fro 3pt"

WAY WAY BETTER than SJax and Nick.

[Mr. Body]

Glad Rasho got a ring. He can sit with his very tall wife on a bench by a Slovenian lake while in his dotage and look at its shininess.

[T Park]

Rasho should be happy.

Aren't Toronto and Slovenia winters pretty similar?

[picnroll]

vid didnt work
Neither do Rasho's dunks. :lol

[Mr. Body]

Are you sure we are going to keep these guys? When could we officially trade them?

Pretty sure Bonner is a guy the Spurs don't mind having. Williams could get moved again.

[Please_dont_ban_me]

When Rasho left Minnesota, the following article was written by Britt Robson. He speaks the words that I can not form right now.


Wednesday, July 16, 2003

Losing Rasho

Rasho Nesterovic, who announced on Tuesday that he is rejecting the Timberwolves' contract offer to go and play in San Antonio, is one of kindest, gentliest people I have ever encountered inside or outside the world of sports. Even after he became fluent in English, the seven-foot Slovenian has answered reporters' questions with terse, humble platitudes, always steering his answers toward team performance and results, while magnifying his faults and downplaying his strengths on the court. When I did a Hang Time column about him back in January of 2002, Timberwolves' assistant coach Randy Wittman told me that at the age of 15, Rasho had lost close family members during the brief civil war that occurred after Yugoslavia fell apart. Rasho confirmed the news without getting into details, and seemed grateful both that I raised the issue and didn't pry further. After that, whenever our eyes would meet in the locker room, he'd acknowledge me with a slight lift of the chin, and maybe even a small smile. Charles Hallman, the sportswriter for the Minneapolis Spokesmen-Recorder, told me he developed a similarly subtle mini-rapport after doing a personal story on Rasho.

The point here is that Rasho is a shy, sensitive soul not given to many outward displays of emotion, a person and player whose emotions and competitive fire are often turned inward. In many respects this has hindered the quality and consistency of his play; he has never really learned how to handle the rough-and-tumble jousting that occurs under the basket, and when he makes a mistake or two, he is prone to lose confidence. All this made him an uncomfortable match with his superstar teammate, Kevin Garnett, who is nearly his polar opposite emotionally. When a teammate isn't going well, KG gets in his face, not necessarily in a negative way, but with encouragement that's laced with fire and an overt challenge to improve. And when Rasho or another Wolves' teammate does something spectacular, the exuberant Garnett is likely to acknowledge it by whacking him in the head or bumping him in the chest, a display of macho warrior brotherhood. Most of the time, Rasho crawled further into his shell when KG challenged him, and received his whacks and bumps with a forced camaraderie that looked as if he were tolerating an unpleasantry.

Of all the Wolves players, the person who probably liked and understood him best, and defended him against criticism most consistently, was Wally Szczerbiak, whose locker is just two stalls away from Rasho's at the Target Center. That's not a great ally, given that Szczerbiak is not well-liked by most members of the team, and has had an uneasy at best relationship with Garnett ever since he arrived. Rasho is a loyal guy, and in his own quiet way probably resented the way Wally was treated and perceived. Finally, it has been reported on ESPN.com that Rasho and coach Flip Saunders didn't get along. There weren't many overt signs that this was so, but it is true that Saunders was loath to play Rasho at crunch time, especially in the fourth quarter of close games. The coach explained that this was because of Rasho's poor foul shooting, but there were certainly times when Rasho's other contributions would, and should, have outweighed that potential pitfall.

Put it all together--KG, Szczerbiak, Saunders--and it is not hard to see why Rasho opted for San Antonio. Like Rasho, Tim Duncan is a quietly fiery competitor who rarely gets in the face of his teammates. The team has just won its second championship and had sufficient salary cap room to offer Rasho roughly the same amount of money he'd be receiving in Minnesota. One of the determining factors in Rasho's decisions seems to have been a meeting he had with coach Gregg Popovich, who no doubt sussed up Rasho's personality and realized lots of positive strokes would be most effective.

In any event, the loss of Rasho is a huge blow to the Wolves' franchise, especially on the heels of Sunday's news that free agent forward Juwan Howard would sign with Orlando instead of Minnesota. Kevin McHale and the rest of the team's front office will have to act fast and boldly if they are to convince Kevin Garnett to re-sign with the team. But that's another column for the near future. This one is to say goodbye to Rasho, a class act who probably made the right choice for his future happiness and ongoing improvement in the years ahead.

It's really sad to see people pile on him.

I liked his game, he was a nice guy too. Hope he does well in Toronto.

[Kori Ellis]

Good move for a salary dump.

Matt Bonner wouldn't be my first choice in getting an athletic forward, but he's a solid pickup. I'd imagine the Spurs will see if Eric Williams can provide anything and if not negotiate a buyout because it looks like this season is a player option.

Spurs still have gaps to fill but this also indicates that Scola is probably not coming.

[boutons_]

Rasho is obviously a nice, serious, humble guy.
But his basketball contributions to the Spurs just weren't there.
Frustrating as hell somebody on the Spurs couldn't get Rasho to step up his game.

[FromWayDowntown]

When Rasho left Minnesota, the following article was written by Britt Robson. He speaks the words that I can not form right now.


Wednesday, July 16, 2003

Losing Rasho

Rasho Nesterovic, who announced on Tuesday that he is rejecting the Timberwolves' contract offer to go and play in San Antonio, is one of kindest, gentliest people I have ever encountered inside or outside the world of sports. Even after he became fluent in English, the seven-foot Slovenian has answered reporters' questions with terse, humble platitudes, always steering his answers toward team performance and results, while magnifying his faults and downplaying his strengths on the court. When I did a Hang Time column about him back in January of 2002, Timberwolves' assistant coach Randy Wittman told me that at the age of 15, Rasho had lost close family members during the brief civil war that occurred after Yugoslavia fell apart. Rasho confirmed the news without getting into details, and seemed grateful both that I raised the issue and didn't pry further. After that, whenever our eyes would meet in the locker room, he'd acknowledge me with a slight lift of the chin, and maybe even a small smile. Charles Hallman, the sportswriter for the Minneapolis Spokesmen-Recorder, told me he developed a similarly subtle mini-rapport after doing a personal story on Rasho.

The point here is that Rasho is a shy, sensitive soul not given to many outward displays of emotion, a person and player whose emotions and competitive fire are often turned inward. In many respects this has hindered the quality and consistency of his play; he has never really learned how to handle the rough-and-tumble jousting that occurs under the basket, and when he makes a mistake or two, he is prone to lose confidence. All this made him an uncomfortable match with his superstar teammate, Kevin Garnett, who is nearly his polar opposite emotionally. When a teammate isn't going well, KG gets in his face, not necessarily in a negative way, but with encouragement that's laced with fire and an overt challenge to improve. And when Rasho or another Wolves' teammate does something spectacular, the exuberant Garnett is likely to acknowledge it by whacking him in the head or bumping him in the chest, a display of macho warrior brotherhood. Most of the time, Rasho crawled further into his shell when KG challenged him, and received his whacks and bumps with a forced camaraderie that looked as if he were tolerating an unpleasantry.

Of all the Wolves players, the person who probably liked and understood him best, and defended him against criticism most consistently, was Wally Szczerbiak, whose locker is just two stalls away from Rasho's at the Target Center. That's not a great ally, given that Szczerbiak is not well-liked by most members of the team, and has had an uneasy at best relationship with Garnett ever since he arrived. Rasho is a loyal guy, and in his own quiet way probably resented the way Wally was treated and perceived. Finally, it has been reported on ESPN.com that Rasho and coach Flip Saunders didn't get along. There weren't many overt signs that this was so, but it is true that Saunders was loath to play Rasho at crunch time, especially in the fourth quarter of close games. The coach explained that this was because of Rasho's poor foul shooting, but there were certainly times when Rasho's other contributions would, and should, have outweighed that potential pitfall.

Put it all together--KG, Szczerbiak, Saunders--and it is not hard to see why Rasho opted for San Antonio. Like Rasho, Tim Duncan is a quietly fiery competitor who rarely gets in the face of his teammates. The team has just won its second championship and had sufficient salary cap room to offer Rasho roughly the same amount of money he'd be receiving in Minnesota. One of the determining factors in Rasho's decisions seems to have been a meeting he had with coach Gregg Popovich, who no doubt sussed up Rasho's personality and realized lots of positive strokes would be most effective.

In any event, the loss of Rasho is a huge blow to the Wolves' franchise, especially on the heels of Sunday's news that free agent forward Juwan Howard would sign with Orlando instead of Minnesota. Kevin McHale and the rest of the team's front office will have to act fast and boldly if they are to convince Kevin Garnett to re-sign with the team. But that's another column for the near future. This one is to say goodbye to Rasho, a class act who probably made the right choice for his future happiness and ongoing improvement in the years ahead.

I don't think there are too many here who question whether Rasho is a great guy and a dignified man. But great guys and dignified men who don't aggressively rebound or score the basketball aren't terribly helpful to teams trying to win titles, particularly at a price of almost $8 million per season.

I'll root for Rasho the man, but as a basketball fan, I'm glad that the Spurs made this deal.

[yavozerb]

These 2 expiring contracts are a hot commodity in the nba...I dont think these guys will remain long with the spurs

[~Sweetmelody~]

Wow! This makes me sad, I like Rasho. :depressed

(((hugs))) Angel

[Matt Bonner's Gone]

[link removed]

Matt boner highlights fast forward throught the sam mitchell parts

[MannyIsGod]

Rasho is obviously a nice, serious, humble guy.
But his basketball contributions to the Spurs just weren't there.
Frustrating as hell somebody on the Spurs couldn't get Rasho to step up his game.

[Streakyshooter08]

The only real downside is Yao is going to fucking own us if we don't get another dreadnaught C.


Yeah... that was what I was wondering about! Javtokas seems to be strong and is not that much shorter but I am not sure him alone is enough. Another big body would be nice. Yao and the Rockets won't be that bad next year... except T-Mac isn't going to be healthy ever again...

[Buddy Holly]

UNLESS Pop thinks Javtokus can come in and defend like Rasho right away. -- which I doubt he does.

A two legged dog could defend better than Rasho.

[Mr. Body]

Spurs still have gaps to fill but this also indicates that Scola is probably not coming.

Huh? Why?

[George Gervin's Afro]

Buford just said WIlliams is in the last yr of his deal. no player option

[T Park]

Frustrating as hell somebody on the Spurs couldn't get Rasho to step up his game

If no one on the Spurs could, then it aint happening.

[ChumpDumper]

I'm sure Williams picked up his option as soon as he could.

[T Park]

A two legged dog could defend better than Rasho.


Wanna rewatch Houston and Miami game tape again Fast and the furious?

[Kori Ellis]

Huh? Why?

I would assume they don't need another PF with Bonner here. They have other gaps and not many more roster spots.

[NorCal510]

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[strangeweather]

A two legged dog could defend better than Rasho.
Rasho can't defend mobile forwards, but he's quite capable of defending big centers and providing help defense inside. Either Javtokas is going to need to be that guy, or we'll need to sign someone who can, for when we play Yao and Shaq.

[gameFACE]

Buford also just said the Spurs intention is to try and sign Nazr through free agency.

[T Park]

WAY WAY BETTER than SJax

Good god.....

[strangeweather]

Buford also just said the Spurs intention is to try and sign Nazr through free agency.
Really??

[Buddy Holly]

Wanna rewatch Houston and Miami game tape again Fast and the furious?

Yeah, and Tony Delk is a scoring machine because he scored 50 once. :lol

[Bruno]

I'm sure Williams picked up his option as soon as he could.

He had to pick his option before the trade. You can't trade expiring contracts before the draft.

[Kori Ellis]

Buford also just said the Spurs intention is to try and sign Nazr through free agency.

I believe they'll give him a low offer and if he doesn't take it, let him walk.

[timvp]

Spurs fans should be celebrating in the streets. I've watched Matt Bonner play a lot and this guy is damn good. He will be a fan favorite in no time. Think Malik Rose in his prime with an outside shot and like four inches taller.

I know he played in the NBA outpost north of the border, but if we were naming players that we'd want to fill what the Spurs need, Matt Bonner would be high on that list.

Another thing is this guy is tough as nails. When he was a rookie, he put a cheap shot on KG after KG was showing up the Toronto crowd. Bonner got ejected and the crowd gave him a standing ovation.

So in recap, the Spurs get an young active bigman who can shoot and his hard ass.

Got damn what a good trade.

[T Park]

Buford also just said the Spurs intention is to try and sign Nazr through free agency.





translation

lowball

sign and trade.


Please let it be Mike Sweetney.

[angel_luv]

Wow! This makes me sad, I like Rasho. :depressed

(((hugs))) Angel


Thank you SM. Thanks a lot.

[Buddy Holly]

Really??

Yes.

He also said:

“It’s difficult to part with such a class act as Rasho, but in order to get quality you have to give up quality,”

[Nikos]

Isn't Bonner just another version of Danny Ferry? Weak rebounder who can shoot and is 6-9, 6-10 ish? I don't know anything of his defense, but it seems his only redeeming quality is shooting (which might be enough to help the team).

[T Park]

Spurs fans should be celebrating in the streets. I've watched Matt Bonner play a lot and this guy is damn good. He will be a fan favorite in no time. Think Malik Rose in his prime with an outside shot and like four inches taller.

I know he played in the NBA outpost north of the border, but if we were naming players that we'd want to fill what the Spurs need, Matt Bonner would be high on that list.

Another thing is this guy is tough as nails. When he was a rookie, he put a cheap shot on KG after KG was showing up the Toronto crowd. Bonner got ejected and the crowd gave him a standing ovation.

So in recap, the Spurs get an young active bigman who can shoot and his hard ass.

Got damn what a good trade.


Making it hard NOT to like Bonner Timvp :lol


Hopefuly he comes in and bangs the boards like Malik did too.

[boutons_]

OK, timvp.

My remembering him as a banger and as active was right. I thought I was mixing him up with some other similar guy who was @NJ or @Boston.

[T Park]

Isn't Bonner just another version of Danny Ferry?

Hopefully yes, but is a better rebounder.

They could've used a Danny Ferry against Nowitzki.

If they would've had a Danny Ferry type, we would be talking about back to back titles.

[Kori Ellis]

Matt Bonner isn't a great rebounder. He's a good shooter and good allaround player.

[ShoogarBear]

OK, timvp.

My remembering him as a banger and as active was right. I thought I was mixing him up with some other similar guy who was @NJ or @Boston.Brian Scalabrine?? Mr. Wunderlick???

:lol :lol :lol

[CharlieMac]

Making it hard NOT to like Bonner Timvp :lol


Hopefuly he comes in and bangs the boards like Malik did too.


Minus the 17 pump fakes of course.

[Buddy Holly]

OK, timvp.

My remembering him as a banger and as active was right. I thought I was mixing him up with some other similar guy who was @NJ or @Boston.

http://www.taipeitimes.com/images/2004/05/16/20040515215936.jpeg

[PM5K]

So I haven't read all of this but was Williams a throw in or are we actually keeping him?

[CharlieMac]

http://www.taipeitimes.com/images/2004/05/16/20040515215936.jpeg

Gingers!

[Kori Ellis]

So I haven't read all of this but was Williams a throw in or are we actually keeping him?

They'll probably work him out and see what he has left. He's pretty old.

[Bruno]

Just an idea, angel_luv:
Maybe you should start a " thanks and good luck Rasho" thread for people liking Rasho who want to speak about him in a positive way ?

[boutons_]

T_pork, do you have a point, or just an insult?

SJax and Nick career 3G %ages are around 35 fucking %.

Not that 3Gs will be Bonner's primary role, but the way the Spurs fell in love with 3Gs last season, Bonner will get some chances from the arc.

[strangeweather]

Isn't Bonner just another version of Danny Ferry? Weak rebounder who can shoot and is 6-9, 6-10 ish? I don't know anything of his defense, but it seems his only redeeming quality is shooting (which might be enough to help the team).
His rebounding is pretty comparable Rasho's, so we're not giving up anything there. Not that it makes you wrong that he's a weak rebounder.

If all he can do is shoot from outside well enough to keep his man on him when he goes to the perimeter or the high post, that will be a big win on offense. It will make it harder to double Timmy an open up the lane for Tony and Manu to penetrate.

[ChumpDumper]

I'm sure Williams will get a chance to prove himself here. I can't imagine everyone bitching to get a long SF for so long (myself included) would want to ditch this guy so quickly.

[MannyIsGod]

Man, they better not resign Nazr. Fuck that.

[Kori Ellis]

I'm sure Williams will get a chance to prove himself here. I can't imagine everyone bitching to get a long SF for so long (myself included) would want to ditch this guy so quickly.

Exactly. He could be a stop gap long 3 to backup Bruce this season until they find a young one.

[boutons_]

OK, I remember Bonner from the orange mini-fro, :lol

His NBA player pic is short hair.

[MannyIsGod]

Seriously, this sounds like an awesome trade. I wonder how Bonner and Duncan will do running a high lo setup considering Bonner has a good shot.

[PM5K]

Well I've seen Bonner play but not Williams, looks a little too old for my tastes, what's why I asked if he was a throw in.....

Looks like a decent trade, especially for Holt Cat...

[dbestpro]

Brent Barry will probably be next. He has 5.1 mil and 5.5 mil due over the next two years.

[timvp]

Bonner's rebounding numbers aren't great, but that's because the Raptors played him a lot at small forward. If you look at his rebounding numbers as if he were a small forward, they'd be good.

With the Spurs, this guy will play a lot next to Tim Duncan. If he can turn into a decent rebounding power forward, he's going to be a Spur for a long, long time.

I'm hyping this guy up pretty good but I'm confident in my assessments because I've seen him play a whole lot. Half of you reading this thread will own a Matt Bonner jersey within a couple years.

[Nikos]

Matt Bonner isn't a great rebounder. He's a good shooter and good allaround player.

Out of curiosity, why do you say all-around, if he is merely just an excellent shooter?

Is he a good defender or passer? Scorer in the post?

His rebounding is poor for a PF and average for an SF. What is he good at besides shooting? (Just asking cause I can't remember his game aside from his shooting prowess). Just going by the stats.

[ShoogarBear]

Williams has had years where he's been a reasonable 3-point threat, so seein him in spot duty for Bruce isn't a reach in many ways.

[boutons_]

I simply can't believe the Spurs would be going after Nazr when they sat him basically all spring and playoffs.

RC must be playing "off-season poker" saying he wants Nazr. :)

[Bruno]

They'll probably work him out and see what he has left. He's pretty old.

His contract is guaranteed, I don't think they will waive him if he sucks.

The best thing to do is to trade him at the deadline to a team under the cap in a deal like : Williams + cash to pay his remaining salary + 2nd rounder for nothing. With this kind of trade, Spurs will likely go under the tax threshold.

[PM5K]

Bonner's rebounding numbers aren't great, but that's because the Raptors played him a lot at small forward. If you look at his rebounding numbers as if he were a small forward, they'd be good.

With the Spurs, this guy will play a lot next to Tim Duncan. If he can turn into a decent rebounding power forward, he's going to be a Spur for a long, long time.

I'm hyping this guy up pretty good but I'm confident in my assessments because I've seen him play a whole lot. Half of you reading this thread will own a Matt Bonner jersey within a couple years.

I've seen him play as well and I agree...

[blaze89]

You guys will be mad when you see that Eric Williams is old and can't play anymore, and Matt Boner is the worst defender in the league and has terrible handles. Also Boner hits the side of the backboard when anyone contests his shot, or gets an airball.

The best part of this deal for you guys is probably the draft pick...but the "Red Rocket"(Boner) is pretty solid acquisition.

Aren't players really bad when playing for Toronto?

[Das Texan]

kick ass in toronto rasho on 80 nights a year.


bonner is definitely quite interesting, love his game.....he provides some things we need and hopefully he can improve.


what is his defensive game like? I have never really paid attention to him aside from watching him from afar and liking some of the things he could do with the ball.

[Matt Bonner's Gone]

Matt Bonner was a fan fav in TO after his flagrant foul on K.G...try to find the vid its so funny when KG and spreewell try to kill him.

[Kori Ellis]

His contract is guaranteed, I don't think they will waive him if he sucks.

The best thing to do is to trade him at the deadline to a team under the cap in a deal like : Williams + cash to pay his remaining salary + 2nd rounder for nothing. With this kind of trade, Spurs will likely go under the tax threshold.

True that would be the best situation. But I think it depends on if they need the roster space and who else they are bringing in.

Ever since they waived Mercer, I don't put it past them to waive people with money on their contracts :)

[strangeweather]

Bonner's rebounding numbers aren't great, but that's because the Raptors played him a lot at small forward. If you look at his rebounding numbers as if he were a small forward, they'd be good.

With the Spurs, this guy will play a lot next to Tim Duncan. If he can turn into a decent rebounding power forward, he's going to be a Spur for a long, long time.

I'm hyping this guy up pretty good but I'm confident in my assessments because I've seen him play a whole lot. Half of you reading this thread will own a Matt Bonner jersey within a couple years.
If you're right that he can play the enforcer and he can even be an average rebounder, this guy is a massive win for us. Way cool.

[texasqb2]

Eric Williams I thought was a very good role player back when he played for the Nets. Didn't keep up him this year, so I don't know.

[MannyIsGod]

All I know, is that Timvp doesn't hype bad players. His word is good enough for me.

[PM5K]

Eric Williams I thought was a very good role player back when he played for the Nets. Didn't keep up him this year, so I don't know.

Too old...

[timvp]

Out of curiosity, why do you say all-around, if he is merely just an excellent shooter?

Is he a good defender or passer? Scorer in the post?

His rebounding is poor for a PF and average for an SF. What is he good at besides shooting? (Just asking cause I can't remember his game aside from his shooting prowess). Just going by the stats.

He's no where close to a Danny Ferry player.

He's a good defender. Very good against bulky players. His only trouble on defense is when he's playing small forward and he gets stuck guarding a quick player like Manu or Rip or someone like that. But matched up against someone his size, he's a very good defender.

I've seen him make good passes. He's at least a very willing passer. And given the minutes at power forward, I think he'd be a pretty good shotblocker (1 per game). He also doesn't turn the ball over, which is nice to see.

I'm telling you, Bonner is going to surprise. He didn't get to play in position much next to Bosh and Villanueva last year, but put this guy next to Duncan and you have Malik Rose with a three point shot.

He'll also be a perfect player to put on Dirk. He gives the Spurs a legit small ball power forward. And hell, if he plays as good as I know he can, he might end up starting next to Tim.

[Winnipeg_Spur]

Wow, getting rid of Rasho without giving up a pick is pretty impressive, no matter what the names on the 1 year deals we're getting back are. In fact we even got a 2nd rounder out of this... Not bad at all!

[Das Texan]

He's no where close to a Danny Ferry player.

He's a good defender. Very good against bulky players. His only trouble on defense is when he's playing small forward and he gets stuck guarding a quick player like Manu or Rip or someone like that. But matched up against someone his size, he's a very good defender.

I've seen him make good passes. He's at least a very willing passer. And given the minutes at power forward, I think he'd be a pretty good shotblocker (1 per game). He also doesn't turn the ball over, which is nice to see.

I'm telling you, Bonner is going to surprise. He didn't get to play in position much next to Bosh and Villanueva last year, but put this guy next to Duncan and you have Malik Rose with a three point shot.

He'll also be a perfect player to put on Dirk. He gives the Spurs a legit small ball power forward. And hell, if he plays as good as I know he can, he might end up starting next to Tim.


i love what i hear there timvp

[Kori Ellis]

Wow, getting rid of Rasho without giving up a pick is pretty impressive, no matter what the names on the 1 year deals we're getting back are. In fact we even got a 2nd rounder out of this... Not bad at all!

Exactly.

That's why no one can complain but the girls who love Rasho.

But they got back Bonner, so those same girls will love the new white guy in no time.

[NZHayden]

sad loss, i liked rasho

Sean Marks 4 Center :elephant
hell yeah i'm down with that

[jman3000]

I want to have Matt Bonner's babies

:drunk

[Buddy Holly]

I'm telling you, Bonner is going to surprise. He didn't get to play in position much next to Bosh and Villanueva last year, but put this guy next to Duncan and you have Malik Rose with a three point shot.

So you're saying he suffers from the Boris Diaw complex?

[Bruno]

Just some details :
- Spurs will give cash too (I don't know how much but the max allowed is $3M)
- The pick we get is the Hornets 2009 second round pick (Toronto get him by trading Aaron Williams)

[Phenomanul]

Exactly.

That's why no one can complain but the girls who love Rasho.

But they got back Bonner, so those same girls will love the new white guy in no time.

They root for the team's underdogs...

[ShoogarBear]

But they got back Bonner, so those same girls will love the new white guy in no time.Not just them, apparently.


I want to have Matt Bonner's babies.:lol

[angel_luv]

Exactly.

That's why no one can complain but the girls who love Rasho.

But they got back Bonner, so those same girls will love the new white guy in no time.


Not me. He looks like an oversized Mr Tumnus the fawn from Chronicles of Narnia.

And he isn't Sho.

[Mr. Body]

Just some details :
- Spurs will give cash too (I don't know how much but the max allowed is $3M)
- The pick we get is the Hornets 2009 second round pick (Toronto get him by trading Aaron Williams)

That 2nd rounder ain't bad, as throw-ins go. It'll likely be at least in the top half of that round. Not much, but the Spurs haven't had a 2nd that high in years (barring the Sanikidze acquisition).

[Phenomanul]

Not me. He looks like an oversized Mr Tumnus the fawn from Chronicles of Narnia.

And he isn't Sho.


Wheeew.... you're still alive. Anyone heard from Rashofan yet???

[timvp]

So you're saying he suffers from the Boris Diaw complex?

Basically. Now he's not going to turn into a triple double machine, but one day Spurs fans will look at this trade as one of the best in team history.

As long as Pop gives him a shot, he's going to be a vital piece to the puzzle. The Spurs needed a player like him.

If he were available in free agency, I would have wanted him over Reggie Evans.

:wow

[Kori Ellis]

If he averages 10 and 5 here in 20-something minutes per game, that's enough. I don't expect much more out of him.

[Mr. Body]

Basically. Now he's not going to turn into a triple double machine, but one day Spurs fans will look at this trade as one of the best in team history.

As long as Pop gives him a shot, he's going to be a vital piece to the puzzle. The Spurs needed a player like him.

If he were available in free agency, I would have wanted him over Reggie Evans.

:wow

Well, this is a little crazy. But he'll do some good things for the Spurs, at least.

[AdmiralMVP]

Let's face it. Rasho was soft and never quite fit with the offense. It's an even trade.

[Manu20]

MATT BONNER

Position: Forward Birthdate: April 5, 1980 (Concord, New Hampshire)
Height: 6-10 High School: Concord (Concord, New Hampshire)
Weight: 240 College: Florida ‘03
NBA Experience: 2 Years

How Acquired: Acquired draft rights from Chicago in exchange for a future second-round draft pick on June 26, 2003.
Career Transactions: Second-round draft choice (45th overall) by Chicago in 2003; June 26, 2003: Acquired draft rights from
Chicago in exchange for a future second-round draft pick.
Contract Status: Signed through 2006-07 season.
2005-06 SEASON: Averaged 7.5 points, 3.6 rebounds and 21.9 minutes in 78 games, six as a starter … Scored in double figures
in 30 contests … Tied for 12th in the NBA with a .420 (102-243) three-point field goal percentage … Missed first game of career
(160 games) with a sprained left ankle April 12 at Orlando … The injury forced him out of the lineup for the final four games of
the season (Apr. 12-19) … Scored in double figures in five of his six outings in April, averaging 12.2 points and 6.5 rebounds in
30.2 minutes … Had a season-high 16 points and a career-best 13 boards for his second career double-double Apr. 4 vs. Boston
… Averaged 9.2 points and shot .491 (27-for-55) from beyond the arc and .933 (14-for-15) from the line in March … Registered
first career double-double with 10 points and 12 rebounds, including career-best six offensive boards Mar. 24 vs. Minnesota …
Tied a career high Mar. 5 vs. Boston with five three-pointers to lead the bench in scoring with 15 points … Totaled double
figures in points in six of seven games from Jan. 11-27, averaging 12.5 points on .483 (29-60) percent shooting from the field and
.441 (15-34) from three-point range … Recorded career highs in free throws (six) and free throw attempts (six) en route to
registering 10 points to go with eight rebounds Jan. 8 vs. New Jersey … Tied career high with four steals Nov. 18 at Boston …
Made first career start Nov. 16 vs. Philadelphia, recording 10 points and two steals … Posted 15 points, (6-10 FG), eight
rebounds and a career-best four steals Nov. 11 vs. Utah.

PROFESSIONAL CAREER: Has averaged 7.3 points, 3.6 rebounds and 20.4 minutes in 160 games … Has shot .490 (456-
930) from the field and .421 (141-335) from three-point range … Spent the 2003-04 season playing for Sicilia in the Italian A1
League, where he averaged 19.2 points (seventh in the 18-team league) and 9.3 rebounds (seventh in the league) ... 2004-05:
Averaged 7.2 points, 3.5 rebounds and 18.9 minutes … One of two Raptors (Peterson) to play in all 82 games … Joined Omar
Cook as the only two players to not start a game … Ranked first among rookies with a .424 (39-92) three-point field goal
percentage and second with a .533 (247-463) field goal percentage … Netted 10 or more points on 25 occasions … Led the bench
in scoring 18 times, including a career-best 21 points on eight-for-nine shooting from the field and a career-high five triples Mar.
11 vs. Atlanta … Recorded 18 points, including four-for-four from beyond the arc, to go along with seven rebounds in a careerbest
38 minutes Mar. 6 at New Orleans … Shot .500 or better from the field in 12 consecutive games (Nov. 9-28) … Netted his
first career-triple Nov. 7 vs. Portland.

COLLEGE CAREER: Named Honorable Mention All-America by the Associated Press as a junior and senior … As a senior,
earned All-Southeastern Conference First Team honors from the Associated Press and coaches and was runner-up for SEC Player
of the Year … Earned second-team All-SEC honors as a junior and third team as a sophomore … Left Florida ranked eighth alltime
in scoring and sixth in three-pointers made … Is the only Gator to record 1,500 points, 750 rebounds and 150 triples …
Was a three-time All-SEC Academic pick and earned Verizon Academic All-American of the Year honors for basketball in final
two seasons, the first Gator hoopster to win the award … As a senior, led the conference in three-point shooting percentage
(.474) … Averaged a team-best 15.2 points, with 6.1 rebounds (second on team) in 33 games … Topped team in scoring 16 times
and rebounding on 12 occasions … As a junior, ranked second on the team in several categories including scoring (15.6),
rebounding (7.2), three-point percentage (.371) and free throw percentage (.796) … Ranked 10th in the conference in scoring,
seventh in rebounding and fifth in field goal percentage … Scored a career-high 31 points against South Florida … Started 17 of
his team’s final 20 games as a sophomore … Averaged 13.3 points and a team-high 7.6 rebounds, fifth in the league, in 31 games
… Topped team in rebounds 16 times … Recorded team-best 10 double-doubles, third-best in SEC … Averaged team-best 16.5
points in SEC Tournament on .632 shooting from the field … Averaged 4.8 points and 3.2 rebounds in 36 games in his freshman
campaign … Shot .591 from the field in NCAA Tournament, second-best mark on the team, helping the Gators’ run to NCAA
title game.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

OMFG OMFG

is this a joke???? This week just keeps getting better and better!!!!

[Kori Ellis]

Well, this is a little crazy. But he'll do some good things for the Spurs, at least.

What's crazy to say it will be the best trade in team history? For cap purposes, it very may well be. :lol

[Bruno]

If he were available in free agency, I would have wanted him over Reggie Evans.

:wow

No more sign Reggie Evans message ?

The good news too is that he will be a restricted free agent at the end of the year. If he play well, we will be able to match offers.

[Jules]

Thank you.

I wasn't prepared for this and am not taking it well.

I'm heart broke. Sho's not coming home.

My stomach really hurts guys.

Angel, I'm sorry.

This is a good move for Rasho. I'm sure he'll miss fans like you, but he really needs to be part of a club where his talents can be utilized. He's excited right now, which I haven't seen in a long time.

Take care.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

I'm with LJ on this one, lots of upside to Bonner.

I also wouldn't be so quick to trade Williams, that 5 million dollar expiring contract could be an attractive piece of trade bait at a later date.

[timvp]

No more sign Reggie Evans message ?

I'll have to think about it but as of right now, I just know that Bonner >> Evans for what the Spurs needed. Yeah Bonner isn't the world's best rebounder, but I want to see what he can do at power forward instead of small forward.

[picnroll]

He'll also be a perfect player to put on Dirk. He gives the Spurs a legit small ball power forward. And hell, if he plays as good as I know he can, he might end up starting next to Tim.

When it was suggested to Buford that Bonner could guard guys like Dirk, Odom, Diaw Buford laughed and said he hadn't seen those tapes, that Bonner wasn't nearly as athletic as Horry. Bonner is not the ideal pairing for small ball with Duncan. That player isn't on the Spurs roster.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

By the way, the Spurs have 24 hours to ship one of these guys back out in a trade, or they're stuck with him until December.

[Kori Ellis]

Bonner isn't nearly athletic enough to guard those guys. But he's better than putting a small player on them.

[clubalien]

surely what he means is he will sign nazr then trade him for ben wallace or something

[timvp]

I'd take Bonner on Dirk way before I take Michael Finley on Dirk again.

[T Park]

When it was suggested to Buford that Bonner could guard guys like Dirk, Odom, Diaw Buford laughed and said he hadn't seen those tapes,

really

on 760 he said he was an athletic forward that you could play with guys like Diaw or Nowtizki.

[picnroll]

Nope. That was what the host said and keeps insisting. Buford said no way.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Bonner is pretty athletic for his size, but those guys would take him off the dribble pretty easily, IMO.