Now what?

[Kori Ellis]

I'm here to answer any questions. I will sign anyone who is seven feet tall to a contract so be sure to mention that in your posts.

This isn't the Troll Forum.

[Marc Cuban]

What's a troll forum? How tall are you by the way?

[Kori Ellis]

What's a troll forum? How tall are you by the way?

The troll forum is where you need to go when you make up other usernames and post nothing relevant.

http://spurstalk.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=21

[TheTruth]

I'm pinning this since it's getting buried in redundancy.
OH thank you so very much.

[Marc Cuban]

He's not seven feet tall you can have him.

[ChumpDumper]

Jesus H Christ on a popsicle stick.

[Quadzilla99]

Songaila is very slow footed and not a very good defender according to the guys at ESPN Insider. I don't know much about him myself other than that he some offensive skills from what I saw in his Sacto days when he filled in when C-Webb was injured. Not a shotblocker though I know that.

[Brutalis]

We're in a load of shit. Not looking good.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

It amazes me that it seems like 80% of this board believe that RC, Pop, Sam and Mr Holt have given up on the Duncan/Parker/Ginobili dynasty.

They are not finished for this offseason.

They will spend the MLE.

We will acquire at least a big and a PG, and none of us will see it coming because that's how CIA operates.

That is all.

[Obstructed_View]

Is Yinka Dare available? He's only 34.

[Leetonidas]

Darius Songaila is only 6'8" so I don't think he's a good option.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

Barry and Scola's rights to Bucks for Magloire. I want that to happen, but then what do we do about the backup SG spot? Do you have any ideas of what we can do to get a backup SG?

[dknights411]

Barry and Scola's rights to Bucks for Magloire. I want that to happen, but then what do we do about the backup SG spot? Do you have any ideas of what we can do to get a backup SG?

I thought that was Finley.

[Leetonidas]

Barry and Scola's rights to Bucks for Magloire. I want that to happen, but then what do we do about the backup SG spot? Do you have any ideas of what we can do to get a backup SG?

We have Manu and Finley.

[phxspurfan]

http://www.azcentral.com/sports/suns/articles/0705suns07050.html

how did we get rid of this guy? and what can we do to get him baack :[

[Leetonidas]

http://www.azcentral.com/sports/suns/articles/0705suns07050.html

how did we get rid of this guy? and what can we do to get him baack :[

He's not needed. I'd rather have Devin if we're going after a 6'5" guy.

[TDMVPDPOY]

trade barry to nuggets for najera

[TMSKILZ]

We're screwed! Spurs I'm sured targeted several players through the Draft, FA & Trades, but it would appear nothing has gone according to Spurs plans.

I just hope the Spurs don't get too desperate & panic & go out & make a trade or sign a FA to fill a spot & then we get stuck with another Rasho situation. They say sometimes the trades/FA you don't sign are the best moves a team can make.

I say weigh it out, see if Jaktovas can fill the role, heck, he can't be worse than Rasho, I feel with time he can provide better REB & OFF than Rasho, due to his Athletism & Aggressiveness.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

As for Magloire, we don't need him. He's not a great defender, rebounder, or shotblocker, and masssively underperformed last year, so other than his expiring contract why would we want him??? Jackie Butler or Kelvin Cato are a better fit for 1/4 the price.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

We're screwed! Spurs I'm sured targeted several players through the Draft, FA & Trades, but it would appear nothing has gone according to Spurs plans.

I just hope the Spurs don't get too desperate & panic & go out & make a trade or sign a FA to fill a spot & then we get stuck with another Rasho situation. They say sometimes the trades/FA you don't sign are the best moves a team can make.

I say weigh it out, see if Jaktovas can fill the role, heck, he can't be worse than Rasho, I feel with time he can provide better REB & OFF than Rasho, due to his Athletism & Aggressiveness.

We're NOT screwed, the FA season hasn't even started yet. I guarantee you we have a plan and it will unfold after July 12. CIA has wisely chosen not to show his hand to the league.

Your 2nd paragraph is SPOT ON, especially this: "They say sometimes the trades/FA you don't sign are the best moves a team can make." All you doomsayers out there ask yourself this question -

WHO HAVE WE MISSED OUT ON (WHO WE HAD A REASONABLE CHANCE TO ACQUIRE) THAT WOULD HAVE TAKEN US OVER THE TOP?

No-one.

Regardless of what the panickers would like to think, Joel freakin Pryz does not guarantee us the finals next year, nor does Speedy Claxton, and guys like Wallace, Harrington and Wells were never a realistic option.

Wait until July 12 and all will be much clearer.

[silk]

The plan could be to sign a couple of versatile athleic forward. Maybe jeffries for the mle and a trade for childress.

[Obstructed_View]

We're screwed!


I just hope the Spurs don't get too desperate & panic

Welcome back, Sybil. :lol

[MoSpur]

We'll have to wait and see you guys. Its only been six days. Yes players like Wallace, Peja, and Pryzbilla have signed, but did we really want those guys? Maybe some were okay with Joel Pryzbilla, but there are still some FAs out there that can still fill the Spurs needs. I know my patience is running thin, but I have a good feeling the Spurs front office will do a good job.

[dknights411]

Is Yinka Dare available? He's only 34.

Ok, that's just low.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

We have Manu and Finley.
It's Bowen/Finley/Williams
Then Manu/Nobody if the Magloire trade happens.
And plus if we have Finley as the backup SG, we can't have Williams as our backup SF.

[Phenomanul]

JAVTOKAS

[Mr. Body]

Yinka Dare is 34? Holy crap am I getting old.

[td4mvp3]

We'll have to wait and see you guys. Its only been six days. Yes players like Wallace, Peja, and Pryzbilla have signed, but did we really want those guys? Maybe some were okay with Joel Pryzbilla, but there are still some FAs out there that can still fill the Spurs needs. I know my patience is running thin, but I have a good feeling the Spurs front office will do a good job.
yes, i really wanted wallace.

[Leetonidas]

It's Bowen/Finley/Williams
Then Manu/Nobody if the Magloire trade happens.
And plus if we have Finley as the backup SG, we can't have Williams as our backup SF.

What the hell are you talking about? Finley has always backed up Manu. Eric Williams, if he does play here, will be the backup SF seeing as how he is one.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

What the hell are you talking about? Finley has always backed up Manu. Eric Williams, if he does play here, will be the backup SF seeing as how he is one.
Barry backed up Manu.

[Leetonidas]

Barry backed up Manu.

Manu was always the first man to the bench, and Finley was always the first man off the bench. It was like this:

Manu goes out, Finley comes in. Bruce goes out, Finley goes to SF and Brent comes into SG or Manu goes in for Bruce and Barry comes in for Finley.

[SoCalSpursFan]

Manu was always the first man to the bench, and Finley was always the first man off the bench. It was like this:

Manu goes out, Finley comes in. Bruce goes out, Finley goes to SF and Brent comes into SG or Manu goes in for Bruce and Barry comes in for Finley.

The man speaks the truth.

[dknights411]

Yinka Dare is 34? Holy crap am I getting old.

If you were being sarcastic, I didn't know. But he's dead in case you didn't know.

[Obstructed_View]

If you were being sarcastic, I didn't know. But he's dead in case you didn't know.
A couple of years ago. Heart failure, I think. My post wasn't intended to be disrespectful to him, but to sort of laugh at the people who are desperately digging for a center.

[dknights411]

A couple of years ago. Heart failure, I think. My post wasn't intended to be disrespectful to him, but to sort of laugh at the people who are desperately digging for a center.

It's all Ok. :)

But getting back on topic about our "desperate" need for a center, I'm surprised no one's mentioned Manute Bol yet. (Or did I miss that post?) :lol

The Spurs will find someone to fill out the roster. Just be patient.

[Mr. Body]

If you were being sarcastic, I didn't know. But he's dead in case you didn't know.

What? I had no idea.

[Despot]

Could it be the Spurs?


http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/features/rumors


Hornets Not Finished
Jul 6 - The Oklahoman reports team insiders have said that the Hornets are working on one last trade that involves disgruntled guard Arvydas Macijauskas as well as one last free-agent signing and that both moves are expected to be completed by next week.

[Despot]

disgruntled guard Arvydas Macijauskas

For some reason I was thinking that he was a big man....

[Quadzilla99]

Could it be the Spurs?


http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/features/rumors

That's the guys who wanted out of NO so bad because of problems with coach Byron Scott that he said "mountains of gold" couldn't bring him back. You need Insider for that link to work btw.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

Would y'all replace Barry with Greg Buckner? Maybe add Williams? Because I'm thinkin we will trade him with Scola for Magloire.

It would be like:
PG Parker/Pargo/Udrih
SG Manu/Buckner
SF Bowen/Finley
PF Duncan/Bonner/Horry
C Javtokas/Magloire

IR1 Oberto
IR2 Sanders
IR3 Marks

You think it's too harsh to put Oberto on the IR?

[Slinkyman]

Would y'all replace Barry with Greg Buckner? Maybe add Williams? Because I'm thinkin we will trade him with Scola for Magloire.

It would be like:
PG Parker/Pargo/Udrih
SG Manu/Buckner
SF Bowen/Finley
PF Duncan/Bonner/Horry
C Javtokas/Magloire

IR1 Oberto
IR2 Sanders
IR3 Marks

You think it's too harsh to put Oberto on the IR?

how does Jak start over Magloire?

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

How about Jackie Bulter and Trevor Ariza for half the MLE each, and a vet mnin point guard...

TP/Beno/vet
Manu/Finley/Barry
Bowen/Williams/Ariza
TD/Bonner/Horry
Butler/Javtokas/Oberto

I'd be happy to go to war with that, and tweak it with a trade or two during the season if needs be...

[Obstructed_View]

I'm asking this question again: Is there a time limit on bringing Scola over? For instance, if the Spurs wanted to wait until August to do it would there be any reason they couldn't?

[Mr. Body]

How about Jackie Bulter and Trevor Ariza for half the MLE each, and a vet mnin point guard...

I'd be happy with this.

[strangeweather]

I'm asking this question again: Is there a time limit on bringing Scola over? For instance, if the Spurs wanted to wait until August to do it would there be any reason they couldn't?
I doubt anyone who hasn't actually seen his contract knows for sure, but I suspect that his Tau contract has some kind of a window for exercising his buyout for the year. Otherwise, we could wait until midseason to bring him in.

[strangeweather]

You think it's too harsh to put Oberto on the IR?
If we sign any kind of center and don't trade Oberto, he's going to be on the inactive list. No way we keep 6 post players active. By the same token, if we have 6 other post players, there's no way we bring Marks back.

[Mr. Body]

Marks is as good as gone.

[Russ]

The Spurs do their best work under the radar -- summer league and D-league guys. Look at Udonis Haslem, Devin Brown, Raja Bell, all guys whom the Spurs "discovered" and had in summer league or got from D-league. Even if they eventually wound up elsewhere.

No need to overpay, just work the vinyards, get what you can and then let the next guy overpay for who you found.

The real danger is the big free agent signing, not failure to do so. Just consult your Spurs history book. In golf they say, you drive for show and you put for dough. For the Spurs, it's you draft for show and you scout for dough -- the D-league and summer leagues, that is. The Spurs will get a big man who can play D (if not score a lot) for close to the minimum and at some point during the season the national media will say "How do they keep doing that?"

I can't wait to see the summer league roster.

[Obstructed_View]

The Spurs do their best work under the radar -- summer league and D-league guys. Look at Udonis Haslem, Devin Brown, Raja Bell, all guys whom the Spurs "discovered" and had in summer league or got from D-league. Even if they eventually wound up elsewhere.

No need to overpay, just work the vinyards, get what you can and then let the next guy overpay for who you found.

The real danger is the big free agent signing, not failure to do so. Just consult your Spurs history book. In golf they say, you drive for show and you put for dough. For the Spurs, it's you draft for show and you scout for dough -- the D-league and summer leagues, that is. The Spurs will get a big man who can play D (if not score a lot) for close to the minimum and at some point during the season the national media will say "How do they keep doing that?"

I can't wait to see the summer league roster.

Good take. Could it be that the same people that are angry at the Spurs for not signing Joel Przybilla were also angry at the Spurs for not signing Chris Webber and Jason Kidd?

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

how does Jak start over Magloire?
I didn't know who to put because people say Javtokas is better but others say Magloire is better so I just put whatever. But would you replace Barry with Buckner if we trade for Magloire?

[Obstructed_View]

I hate Buckner. He's a little bitch.

[Slinkyman]

I didn't know who to put because people say Javtokas is better but others say Magloire is better so I just put whatever. But would you replace Barry with Buckner if we trade for Magloire?

The bucks aren't interested in our offer for Magloire so it looks like that won't happen but Buckner is a good defender and i'd take him.

[lotr1trekkie]

Spurs Brethren:
Some understood my last post that Tim really does play center a lot of the time and is better at it than anyone else in the league. Regardless what he's called we need Tim near the basket, not trying to cover a 6' 10" inch jump shooters. We also don't need Bowens to do that! IMO that plays into every other teams hands.
Dallas showed that without someone to cover Dirk we were forced into disadvantagious matchups. Everyone seems to be loading up with big 3 point shooters: Dallas/Chroshere, Fakers/ Radmonovich, Clippers/ Thomas etc.

What we need is a center to replace Tim at times and enough players Williams/ Javokas/Horry[?] to cover the big perimeter shooters. Tim is an offensive nightmare for any other center in the league. Dampier/ Diop probably took 10 fouls a game trying to stop him and Tim still averaged 38/14.

[dbestpro]

Who ever the Spurs plug in at center will only be a situational player. Any team with a moblie power forward will cause Duncan to move to the post defensively and a mobile player will have to come in play defensively. With the power fowards in this league being more mobile wing type players we will see more play from the Spurs with a mobile power foward. The need for this position is probably more important as this will be the type of play most often used around the league. Any slug center will probably do in that Chicago and Miami may be the only teams you really have to match with a conventional inside game.

[Mr. Body]

Have you watched the Javtokas video? Not the most mobile player, by any means, just the most mobile center we've had since the heyday of DRob.

[spur219]

The Spurs don't need a bad ass center. The Spurs have handles business with decent centers. I think Jovotkas can play center leaving Duncan at PF. I think the Spurs should acquire Pollard. He is a hustler with good rebounding skills. The Center position anyways is becoming an extinct position in the NBA. I am not worried about the Center position. Jovotkas is a strong machine who can handle his own defensively and is agressive. Something the Spurs have been lacking at the center position for awhile.

[Mr. Body]

People are going to be very happy with Javtokas. He's certainly not a savior, but he's an aggressive, strong, athletic player with a mean streak who doesn't just love contact, he absolutely adores it.

[spur219]

Exactly Body. Jovotkas is not afraid to throw his body around and create contact.

[MajorMike]

When we won it all in 2003, I would hardly call 5-0 mobile.

[dbestpro]

I actually think a third lunch pale type player would be cool. Javtokas, Oberto and #3 could provide us a return to the bruise brothers.

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

Was the first lame thread not enough for you?

This kind of sorry-ass repetitive posting will earn you a trip straight down to the Spurstalk developmental league, son.

So head on down to SpursReport and we'll see you back up here with the big boys after you've grown a pair.

Fuck.

[El_Mago]

This kind of sorry-ass repetitive posting will earn you a trip straight down to the Spurstalk developmental league, son.

So head on down to SpursReport and we'll see you back up here with the big boys after you've grown a pair.

Fuck.

Classic.

[DirkAB]

I think he has a good point.

[waly.mg]

The Blazers are thought to be trying to trade disgruntled forward Darius Miles, and (Steve) Blake could be a player to package with Miles. If the Blazers sign Rodriguez, they will have the maximum 15 players under contract, something team President Steve Patterson said he wanted to avoid. Pritchard, however, said it was Przybilla, an unrestricted free agent who agreed to re-sign with the Blazers, and not Rodriguez who put Portland at its maximum."

Another in the Block

[Quadzilla99]

Duncan averaged 32 and 12 but yeah he did wipe his ass with the Dallas centers.

[Quadzilla99]

Have you watched the Javtokas video? Not the most mobile player, by any means, just the most mobile center we've had since the heyday of DRob.
He definitely has the athletic abilities to play here. That's not in doubt given his muscle and hops.

[Obstructed_View]

Dallas showed that without someone to cover Dirk we were forced into disadvantagious matchups.
The only person that forced the Spurs into "disadvantagious" matchups is named Gregg.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

The Spurs do their best work under the radar -- summer league and D-league guys. Look at Udonis Haslem, Devin Brown, Raja Bell, all guys whom the Spurs "discovered" and had in summer league or got from D-league. Even if they eventually wound up elsewhere.

No need to overpay, just work the vinyards, get what you can and then let the next guy overpay for who you found.

The real danger is the big free agent signing, not failure to do so. Just consult your Spurs history book. In golf they say, you drive for show and you put for dough. For the Spurs, it's you draft for show and you scout for dough -- the D-league and summer leagues, that is. The Spurs will get a big man who can play D (if not score a lot) for close to the minimum and at some point during the season the national media will say "How do they keep doing that?"

I can't wait to see the summer league roster.

Exactly! The old heads know this but the panic crew are ignoring it.

As for you Ed, we just jawin dawg! :blah :smokin :drunk :spin

[Jobbs]

At this point, I would trade Brent Barry/draft picks and maybe Beno for Al Harrington or get Chris Wilcox in a sign and trade.
Wilcox really showed up after he went to Seattle.
we can all dream...

[Quadzilla99]

At this point, I would trade Brent Barry/draft picks and maybe Beno for Al Harrington or get Chris Wilcox in a sign and trade.
Wilcox really showed up after he went to Seattle.
we can all dream...
Harrington can play the 3 and 4, is 6'9, a good defender, and talented offensive player. I'd give one of your kidneys for Al Harrington.

[Streakyshooter08]

I want to bring in a new thought. Do you think the Spurs would think about trading Manu if it was the last option at a good big men? Just imagine they don't get Javtokas, Butler and Elson. What to do? If Manu would be the last chance to get sombody good next to Tim, would you do it?

Something like: Manu for Camby; Manu fot Boozer, Manu for J.R. Smith + X (not based on salary just some names that came into my mind)

If it was the last chance I would probably trade him for Boozer:

Boozer/ Oberto
TD/ Bonner/ Horry
Bowen/ Williams
Finley/ Barry/ Donta Smith
Parker/ Vaughn*/ Udrih

Note: This is just for the case that the spurs would get NO good big man... I would not trade Manu if there are other possibilitys available... I would also try to trade Barry/Williams for a athletic wing...

[bigdog]

i would actually go with one of those trades involving manu.i like Boozer, but i guess its time to give up on the JR Smith thing,since he was recently traded to Chicago,but who knows.

[callo1]

Bump

[LilMissSPURfect]

we settle for ELSON..... :flag: :flag: :flag: :flag: :makemyday