View Full Version : Duncan has a player option in 2008
picnroll
07-10-2006, 06:09 PM
Wonder if this has anything to do with the moves being made now or rather lack of moves that appear to be to free up space in 2008.
timvp
07-10-2006, 06:11 PM
Maybe the Spurs just have the foresight to open capspace if Duncan leaves!
baseline bum
07-10-2006, 06:18 PM
That would be beyond stupid. No one will ever come to the Spurs without a guy like Tim around. I love San Antonio and my heart will always be there, but it's not a big city like LA, NY, Chicago, Philly, etc. (which is a good thing IMO).
Streakyshooter08
07-10-2006, 06:27 PM
Do you really think Duncan would sign with another team? I don't think so...
Pistons < Spurs
07-10-2006, 06:31 PM
Some would say they never thought Ben Wallace would go to a different team......
picnroll
07-10-2006, 06:35 PM
They opened up cap in 2003 and that was`in large part to entice Duncan to resign. Maybe the same scenario will playout again. Arenas will have a player option in '08 and has said he'll go to another team if the Wiz won't be a title contender. Maybe Duncan would give the Spurs a sweet re-signing and add Arenas.
Buddy Holly
07-10-2006, 06:38 PM
That would be beyond stupid. No one will ever come to the Spurs without a guy like Tim around. I love San Antonio and my heart will always be there, but it's not a big city like LA, NY, Chicago, Philly, etc. (which is a good thing IMO).
Last time I checked, these players play for money not where they live and how big or cool or shiney it is.
They'd play and move to OKC if they were going to be paid 9 million a year.
Buddy Holly
07-10-2006, 06:40 PM
Some would say they never thought Ben Wallace would go to a different team......
Two different situations.
Duncan was drafted by this team. He's settled here. He's one of the best ever to play in the NBA.
Unless the Spurs were low balling him big time, I doubt he'd sign anywhere else.
MannyIsGod
07-10-2006, 06:43 PM
Tim Duncan will die a Spur. Those of yo uthat know Tim's demeanor think he'd actually leave?
ducks
07-10-2006, 06:46 PM
I thought ben would go to the bulls
that did not shock me
duncan hates the spotlight
that rules out the big markets
duncan is not going if he would have bolted it would have been when david had to fly to tim and convince him to stay
he is settled now he has a kid now in sa
picnroll
07-10-2006, 06:51 PM
I think people are focusing to narrowly on Duncan staying or leaving. Obviously it's a possibility. The point is '08 is a watershed year and how is it obviously playing into the Spurs' planning.
MannyIsGod
07-10-2006, 06:53 PM
Spurs fans my hate to see the front office think long term, but it is something that they should be doing. You look at other teams out there who compete one year then fall flat on their face the next. The Spurs don't do that. And yeah, it helps having Tim but having Garnett hasn't stopped Minnesota from fucking everything up. There are tons of teams with star caliber players who just don't have the forsight and planning to keep a contendor out on the court year in and year out. Be grateful for that.
El_Mago
07-10-2006, 07:36 PM
I think the Spurs tried the method of holding a team together....Parker, Gino, Bowen, Duncan, Rasho...
But they realized that just doesn't work for them....
All three championship teams have had different caliber players.....
I don't mind the 08' plan.....
I think they put in that player option....in hopes that Duncan will somehow take less money.....to help this team make a final push for some titles....ala....Bowen, but not that drastic.....
Duncan, already had his rookie deal, then 3 year deal, and his 100million+ deal....and it's not out of his character to do whats best for the team......
Around that time...he should still be effective enough where he can handle teams easily in the playoffs.....
Thus, in 08'....the Spurs will make that Splash in free agency once again.....
So, expect those two year contracts this year in free agency for lower tier free agents....and let's hope that whatever player or players that we get...have break out season's or shoot to stardom along Duncan and the rest of the boys...
TDMVPDPOY
07-10-2006, 07:42 PM
duncan should demand the fuckn max
the only player that should be gettin a paycut is everyone on teh team not name duncan!!!
this probaly explains why knicks are also trimmin down their payroll, lakers also, and sum other teams.
TDMVPDPOY
07-10-2006, 07:45 PM
um Garnett also has a player option that year also, i wonder if duncan does take a paycut like sign for 5-10mill a season, would it also entice KG to sign cheap with us for a shot at the title....
exstatic
07-10-2006, 07:46 PM
Duncan being a FA doesn't take him off the books, folks. In fact, he would count a multiplier (125%? 150%) on the cap until signed. I think this was put in as an option for Tim to opt, and then resign a long deal to finish his career, but it would be a bad deal for him when he can just collect those last two years at 12.5% raises and then sign a shorter deal at the lower raise rate if he wants to continue.
As for him leaving? I won't worry unless he hires Arn Tellem. Pop has always said that they go into the office, he asks Tim how much he wants, and he pays him that.
exstatic
07-10-2006, 07:48 PM
um Garnett also has a player option that year also, i wonder if duncan does take a paycut like sign for 5-10mill a season, would it also entice KG to sign cheap with us for a shot at the title....
Duncan and KG are not signing cheap. David Robinson threatened to sign for the MCE with the Knicks when Pop tried to get him cheap in '01. Yes, David Robinson.
ducks
07-10-2006, 07:50 PM
duncan also pays his agent per hour so that also helps keeping duncan
violentkitten
07-10-2006, 08:58 PM
if the spurs are making moves in fear of duncan leaving in 2008 thats the surest way to sour him on san antonio and lead him to contemplate making a move.
LakerHater
07-10-2006, 09:01 PM
He's not going anywhere, Relax!
picnroll
07-10-2006, 09:01 PM
Duncan and KG are not signing cheap. David Robinson threatened to sign for the MCE with the Knicks when Pop tried to get him cheap in '01. Yes, David Robinson.
KG already gave back money to the Pups, not that it's helped.
violentkitten
07-10-2006, 09:02 PM
complacency. spurs fans natural state.
Banks91
07-10-2006, 11:37 PM
i don't see duncan opting out, considering the last 2years of the contract would be the highest salary years. 20plus million each.
Horry For 3!
07-11-2006, 01:22 AM
Tim Duncan will be like David Robinson, always and ever a Spur.
Mavs_man_41
07-11-2006, 02:09 AM
Two different situations.
Duncan was drafted by this team. He's settled here. He's one of the best ever to play in the NBA.
Unless the Spurs were low balling him big time, I doubt he'd sign anywhere else.
Lol one of the best ever to play in the nba? Personally, i dont even think he is the best spur of all time, i think david robinson has him barely beat.
Mavs_man_41
07-11-2006, 02:13 AM
^ Dont get me wrong, hes a great player, its just u make it sound like hes jordan or magic.
Lol one of the best ever to play in the nba? Personally, i dont even think he is the best spur of all time, i think david robinson has him barely beat.
Tim Duncan is the best spur of all time... DRob has his chances to win championships, it would be Duncan who would win the spurs three championships. Thus doing what DRob never could.
ChumpDumper
07-11-2006, 03:28 AM
whotttbait.
Ninja-Defense
07-11-2006, 04:21 AM
^ Dont get me wrong, hes a great player, its just u make it sound like hes jordan or magic.
3 Rings, 3 Finals MVPs, back-to-back MVPs, 8 straight All-NBA 1st teams, Best PF ever...and on and on and on....
Obstructed_View
07-12-2006, 09:27 AM
I love it when Mavericks fans get on here and prove how little they actually know about basketball.
^ Dont get me wrong, hes a great player, its just u make it sound like hes jordan or magic.
Jordan? - Nobody is.
Magic? - Yeah, Timmy's in that class.
Mavs_man_41
07-12-2006, 12:54 PM
There is no way in hell Tim fucking Duncan is in the same class as magic johnson. You can't seriously think that even as a spurs homer. Comon get real.
Mr. Body
07-12-2006, 01:02 PM
He isn't yet - we'll have to see what happens in the next 5-6 years until he retires.
How many rings does Magic have? Four?
Mavs_man_41
07-12-2006, 01:05 PM
Magic has 5 rings.
Mavs_man_41
07-12-2006, 01:10 PM
Duncan is a great player, im not trying to cut him down. But magic has more rings, mvps, and triple doubles. His career average of 11.2 assists per game is the most in nba history, all while averaging 19.5 points and 7.8 rebounds.
Mr. Body
07-12-2006, 01:11 PM
I don't think Duncan is at that level, but seems clear to retire as the best power forward of all time.
Mavs_man_41
07-12-2006, 01:13 PM
^ that makes sense, as he and KG were the first to revolutionize the power forward position.
violentkitten
07-12-2006, 01:16 PM
There is no way in hell Tim fucking Duncan is in the same class as magic johnson. You can't seriously think that even as a spurs homer. Comon get real.
on the court? yes he is. sometimes fans buy too much into the legend of retired players and not realize how good some of the current players truly are.
about the only thing td hasn't done is won two more championships.
dimsah
07-12-2006, 01:16 PM
Magic Johnson
Honors: Elected to Naismith Memorial Basketball Hall of Fame (2002);
NBA champion (1980, '82, '85, '87, '88);
NBA Finals MVP (1980, '82, '87);
NBA MVP (1987, '89, '90);
Nine-time All-NBA First Team (1983-91);
All-NBA Second Team (1982);
12-time All-Star; All-Star MVP (1990, '92);
Olympic gold medalist (1992);
One of 50 Greatest Players in NBA History (1996).
Tim Duncan
NBA champion (1999, 2003, 2005)
NBA MVP (2002, 2003)
NBA Finals MVP (1999, 2003, 2005)
All-Defensive First Team honors six times
All-Defensive Second Team honors twice (1998 and 2004)
Eight-time All-NBA First Team (1997-2005)
All-NBA Second Team (2006)
The 1998 Rookie of the Year
7-time All-Star (no game was held in 1999)
Named the 2003 USA Basketball Male Athlete of the Year
Considering TD has a few more years I think his accomplishments to this point are definitely comparable.
Mavs_man_41
07-12-2006, 01:17 PM
on the court? yes he is.
I'm sorry but um......NO.
Ninja-Defense
07-12-2006, 01:17 PM
^ that makes sense, as he and KG were the first to revolutionize the power forward position.
So going with that admission, how is the best PF of all time not in the same league as the best PG of all time?
violentkitten
07-12-2006, 01:19 PM
I'm sorry but um......NO.
how so? i dont give a fuck about popularity that carries no weight. what exactly has magic done that td has not?
Mavs_man_41
07-12-2006, 01:19 PM
Because in the past the power forward position was used to do all the dirty work(rebounding, defense, hustling). There simply aren't as many great power forwards in league history as there are point guards.
td4mvp21
07-12-2006, 01:19 PM
How is Duncan not in that class? He can score, defend, shoot, rebound, pass, steal, he has all the intangibles, and he wins. Plus he makes his teammates a lot better. Explain to me how that is not in that class Mavs_man_41?
violentkitten
07-12-2006, 01:19 PM
So going with that admission, how is the best PF of all time not in the same league as the best PG of all time?
who knows? we'll probably have to give him a few hours to think about that one.
Mavs_man_41
07-12-2006, 01:21 PM
how so? i dont give a fuck about popularity that carries no weight. what exactly has magic done that td has not?
Won 5 championships, 3 mvps, and almost averaged a triple double over his career.
Mr. Body
07-12-2006, 01:21 PM
Another thing -- Magic won 3 out of 5 Finals MVPs. Who won the other two?
Magic played for most of his career with a top five center, someone likely top 3: Kareem.
violentkitten
07-12-2006, 01:22 PM
you forgot:
Magic Johnson
Honors: Elected to Naismith Memorial Basketball Hall of Fame (2002);
NBA champion (1980, '82, '85, '87, '88);
NBA Finals MVP (1980, '82, '87);
NBA MVP (1987, '89, '90);
Nine-time All-NBA First Team (1983-91);
All-NBA Second Team (1982);
12-time All-Star; All-Star MVP (1990, '92);
Olympic gold medalist (1992);
One of 50 Greatest Players in NBA History (1996).
Caught AIDS due to fucking anything that moved for 10 years
violentkitten
07-12-2006, 01:23 PM
Another thing -- Magic won 3 out of 5 Finals MVPs. Who won the other two?
Magic played for most of his career with a top five center, someone likely top 3: Kareem.
exactly. those laker teams had some quality talent all those years.
Mavs_man_41
07-12-2006, 01:24 PM
^ violentkitten, the argument was over who is the more accomplished player, not the first to get aids.
Bob Lanier
07-12-2006, 01:24 PM
Duncan will take the MLE to win championships in Miami after Zo+Payton leave.
violentkitten
07-12-2006, 01:25 PM
Won 5 championships, 3 mvps, and almost averaged a triple double over his career.
so td has 3 championships and 2 mvps at age 30. he has one less all-nba 1st team appearance than magic.
Mavs_man_41
07-12-2006, 01:25 PM
In order for you to convince me that Tim Duncan is in the same class as magic johnson, he is going to have to win a couple more rings. And with his age, and all the young talent in the league, i just dont see this happening.
violentkitten
07-12-2006, 01:26 PM
^ violentkitten, the argument was over who is the more accomplished player, not the first to get aids.
magic has the higher public profile but to pretend that duncan isnt in that class is absurd.
violentkitten
07-12-2006, 01:27 PM
In order for you to convince me that Tim Duncan is in the same class as magic johnson, he is going to have to win a couple more rings. And with his age, and all the young talent in the league, i just dont see this happening.
yeah because his career is over.
Winnipeg_Spur
07-12-2006, 01:29 PM
In order for you to convince me that Tim Duncan is in the same class as magic johnson, he is going to have to win a couple more rings. And with his age, and all the young talent in the league, i just dont see this happening.
:lmao
Mav fan talking about winning rings. Classic.
dimsah
07-12-2006, 01:30 PM
In order for you to convince me that Tim Duncan is in the same class as magic johnson, he is going to have to win a couple more rings. And with his age, and all the young talent in the league, i just dont see this happening.Where does Wilt Chamberlain rank on your list?
How about Dennis Rodman?
You're right. Robert Horry ranks up there with Magic too.
DarkReign
07-12-2006, 01:30 PM
Well, I certainly believe TD is in the same class as Magic in some respects. TD isnt done yet.
But Magic did something no one will ever do. He played Center in the Finals as a Point Guard and dominated. TD cant play the point. Sorry.
Mavs_man_41
07-12-2006, 01:30 PM
yeah because his career is over.
Of course his career isn't over, he still has about 5 more great years in him. But i just can't see him winning 2 championships in the next 5 years in a league with lebron, wade, dirk, etc. What is going to happen when duncan is no longer the man? He already seems to be on the decline, with nagging injuries slowing him to a career low 18 ppg this regular season. Do you really think the spurs can win championships with a duncan who is not at his best?
Shaolin-Style
07-12-2006, 01:36 PM
nagging injuries sure didn't reduce his production that much in the mavs series.
once he's healthy he's still the best player in the game (argue for kobe/bron/wade/shaq/dirk whoever all you want won't change my opinion)
Mavs_man_41
07-12-2006, 01:37 PM
nagging injuries sure didn't reduce his production that much in the mavs series.
once he's healthy he's still the best player in the game (argue for kobe/bron/wade/shaq/dirk whoever all you want won't change my opinion)
Well time will only tell if this is true.
shaggy17
07-12-2006, 01:37 PM
Of course his career isn't over, he still has about 5 more great years in him. But i just can't see him winning 2 championships in the next 5 years in a league with lebron, wade, dirk, etc. What is going to happen when duncan is no longer the man? He already seems to be on the decline, with nagging injuries slowing him to a career low 18 ppg this regular season. Do you really think the spurs can win championships with a duncan who is not at his best?
Are you a dumbass or are you just trying to be? Did you not watch Duncan against the Mavs??? Also do not put Dirk in the same fucking sentence as Duncan. Dirk was scared as shit to carry the team in the 4th of game 6 in the finals when he knew the refs werent going to fucking bail his bitch ass out and it resulted in 2 points of free throws. If Duncan showed he is on the decline with the way he played in the Mavs series... I will take it then. :lol Dirk wont be seeing the finals anytime soon especially if Amare comes back in good shape then your really fucked!
mabber
07-12-2006, 01:38 PM
Well, I certainly believe TD is in the same class as Magic in some respects. TD isnt done yet.
But Magic did something no one will ever do. He played Center in the Finals as a Point Guard and dominated. TD cant play the point. Sorry.
Well said.
Mavs_man_41
07-12-2006, 01:40 PM
Are you a dumbass or are you just trying to be? Did you not watch Duncan against the Mavs??? Also do not put Dirk in the same fucking sentence as Duncan. Dirk was scared as shit to carry the team in the 4th of game 6 in the finals when he knew the refs werent going to fucking bail his bitch ass out and it resulted in 2 points of free throws. If Duncan showed he is on the decline with the way he played in the Mavs series... I will take it then. :lol Dirk wont be seeing the finals anytime soon especially if Amare comes back in good shape then your really fucked!
Dude, no one is trying to start a lame Dirk vs Duncan thread. In my opinion, Duncan is the better player. That still doesnt put him in the same class as magic, and that certainly doesnt guarantee any championships for the spurs.
shaggy17
07-12-2006, 01:43 PM
Dude, no one is trying to start a lame Dirk vs Duncan thread. In my opinion, Duncan is the better player. That still doesnt put him in the same class as magic, and that certainly doesnt guarantee any championships for the spurs.
Duncan is a HOF player who deserves to be mentioned with all the greats like Magic,MJ etc and his resume speaks on that level. With what he has done to the Spurs franchise he does belong in Magic's class in some aspects.
dimsah
07-12-2006, 01:43 PM
Dude, no one is trying to start a lame Dirk vs Duncan thread. In my opinion, Duncan is the better player. That still doesnt put him in the same class as magic, and that certainly doesnt guarantee any championships for the spurs.
Then who belongs in that class? If Tim Duncan doesn't measure up then your standards are unbelievably high.
Mavs_man_41
07-12-2006, 01:46 PM
Somebody please explain to me how Duncan is supposedly in the same class as Magic.
Magic has 5 rings, Duncan has 3.
Magic is the more versatile player, he could play all 5 postitions as DarkReign pointed out.
Magic almost averaged a triple double over his entire career.
The point is Duncan is an awesome player and a sure hall of famer, but Magic is greatness.
shaggy17
07-12-2006, 01:47 PM
Well, I certainly believe TD is in the same class as Magic in some respects. TD isnt done yet.
But Magic did something no one will ever do. He played Center in the Finals as a Point Guard and dominated. TD cant play the point. Sorry.
So because Duncan isnt as versatile as Magic is why in some ways he doesnt deserve to be mentioned in that class? :huh
Winnipeg_Spur
07-12-2006, 01:47 PM
Are you a dumbass or are you just trying to be? Did you not watch Duncan against the Mavs??? Also do not put Dirk in the same fucking sentence as Duncan. Dirk was scared as shit to carry the team in the 4th of game 6 in the finals when he knew the refs werent going to fucking bail his bitch ass out and it resulted in 2 points of free throws. If Duncan showed he is on the decline with the way he played in the Mavs series... I will take it then. :lol Dirk wont be seeing the finals anytime soon especially if Amare comes back in good shape then your really fucked!
But Dirk is a practically teenage 28, while Duncan is a decrepit old man at 30. Clearly Dirk is one of the league's rising stars, while Duncan is completely over the hill.
You'd think Mav fans would appreciate a man who carries his team to championships, since many of their own players gag at the sight of the trophy.
Mr. Body
07-12-2006, 01:47 PM
Put Kareem on Duncan's team and they probably don't lose a championship in the 2000s.
Mavs_man_41
07-12-2006, 01:48 PM
Duncan is a HOF player who deserves to be mentioned with all the greats like Magic,MJ etc and his resume speaks on that level. With what he has done to the Spurs franchise he does belong in Magic's class in some aspects.
In some aspects, huh. Now you are starting to doubt yourself.
Mavs_man_41
07-12-2006, 01:49 PM
But Dirk is a practically teenage 28, while Duncan is a decrepit old man at 30. Clearly Dirk is one of the league's rising stars, while Duncan is completely over the hill.
You'd think Mav fans would appreciate a man who carries his team to championships, since many of their own players gag at the sight of the trophy.
What the fuck is wrong with you dumbass. The argument is not Dirk vs Duncan for the second fucking time already. All i am saying is magic is the more accomplished player.
shaggy17
07-12-2006, 01:49 PM
Somebody please explain to me how Duncan is supposedly in the same class as Magic.
Magic has 5 rings, Duncan has 3.
Magic is the more versatile player, he could play all 5 postitions as DarkReign pointed out.
Magic almost averaged a triple double over his entire career.
The point is Duncan is an awesome player and a sure hall of famer, but Magic is greatness.
And Duncan isnt greatness? Duncan is a fundamentally sound player who led 3 different Spurs teams to glory! Duncan is not some awesome hall of famer hes fucking legendary greatness as well!!
picnroll
07-12-2006, 01:50 PM
This is about Duncan having an option in '08 and some dumbass Mavs fan sidetracks it to Duncan not being that great.
Mavs_man_41
07-12-2006, 01:52 PM
This is about Duncan having an option in '08 and some dumbass Mavs fan sidetracks it to Duncan not being that great.
OMG for the 10 millionth time, DUNCAN IS GREAT. WTF is wrong with you? I have said that many times in this thread. The point is, magic johnson is the more accomplised player.
For the record even as a mavs fan i will admit duncan is better than dirk so quit fucking attacking me, i have every right to my opinion that duncan is great but he is no magic johnson.
shaggy17
07-12-2006, 01:53 PM
In some aspects, huh. Now you are starting to doubt yourself.
No you just have your head up your ass which explains your hate for Duncan. Only a Mavs fan would say something stupid like that
picnroll
07-12-2006, 01:54 PM
OMG for the 10 millionth time, DUNCAN IS GREAT. WTF is wrong with you? I have said that many times in this thread. The point is, magic johnson is the more accomplised player.
and wtf does that have to do with Duncan being in an option year in '08?
shaggy17
07-12-2006, 01:54 PM
Some would say they never thought Ben Wallace would go to a different team......
Duncan didnt have Flip "I am a dumbass" Saunders coaching the team either...nuff said
dimsah
07-12-2006, 01:55 PM
I'm not conceding Duncan is not in Magic's class because he can't play the point.
Larry Bird couldn't play all 5 positions, but he should be in Magic's class.
As for almost averaging a triple-double most of his career? So has Jason Kidd.
Mavs_man_41
07-12-2006, 01:55 PM
and wtf does that have to do with Duncan being in an option year in '08?
Got a little sidetracked because some dumbass tried to make the argument that duncan is better than magic.
Winnipeg_Spur
07-12-2006, 01:56 PM
What the fuck is wrong with you dumbass. The argument is not Dirk vs Duncan for the second fucking time already. All i am saying is magic is the more accomplished player.
Of course his career isn't over, he still has about 5 more great years in him. But i just can't see him winning 2 championships in the next 5 years in a league with lebron, wade, dirk, etc.
You're the one who lumped Dirk Anderson (or is that Nick Nowitzki, I'm terrible with names) in with Wade and James as if being two years younger than Duncan made him some rising young star.
ObiwanGinobili
07-12-2006, 01:56 PM
why do you keep comparing the whole of magic's career with a 1/2 finished Duncan career??
of course the #'s don't match up all perfect.
If you want to get all picky then start comparing 1/2 of magic;s career with TD's 1/2 a career.
geesh.
Mavs_man_41
07-12-2006, 01:57 PM
why do you keep comparing the whole of magic's career with a 1/2 finished Duncan career??
of course the #'s don't match up all perfect.
If you want to get all picky then start comparing 1/2 of magic;s career with TD's 1/2 a career.
geesh.
I dont see duncan ever averaging a triple double or winning 2 more rings.
But i could be wrong thats just my opinion.
Mr. Body
07-12-2006, 01:58 PM
Was Magic ever 2 blocks shy a quadruple double in a clinching Finals game?
strangeweather
07-12-2006, 01:58 PM
Somebody please explain to me how Duncan is supposedly in the same class as Magic.
Magic has 5 rings, Duncan has 3.
Duncan's still playing, and he already has 3. I don't see that having exactly the same number of rings is necessary to put two players in the same class. Likewise, if he ends up with 6 that won't automatically mean he must be better than Magic.
Magic is the more versatile player, he could play all 5 postitions as DarkReign pointed out.
I don't want to underrate how an impressive a feat that was, but playing only one position didn't seem to hold Bill Russell back too badly.
Magic almost averaged a triple double over his entire career.
Different positions have different important stats. Duncan has been a consistent 20/10, and among the league leaders in blocks pretty much every year. Was Magic ever up for DPOY?
The point is Duncan is an awesome player and a sure hall of famer, but Magic is greatness.
The point is that Magic has retired from a truly epic career and has been placed firmly on his pedestal, while Duncan is still playing but is already approaching similar heights.
Mavs_man_41
07-12-2006, 02:00 PM
Was Magic ever 2 blocks shy a quadruple double in a clinching Finals game?
Ur right duncan is a great player good for him. Anyways, im sure duncan wont excercise his player option and go to another team.
ObiwanGinobili
07-12-2006, 02:00 PM
Considering TD has a few more years I think his accomplishments to this point are definitely comparable.
yes. very true statement.
Magic Johnson
Honors: Elected to Naismith Memorial Basketball Hall of Fame (2002);
NBA champion (1980, '82, '85, '87, '88);
NBA Finals MVP (1980, '82, '87);
NBA MVP (1987, '89, '90);
Nine-time All-NBA First Team (1983-91);
All-NBA Second Team (1982);
12-time All-Star; All-Star MVP (1990, '92);
Olympic gold medalist (1992);
One of 50 Greatest Players in NBA History (1996).
Tim Duncan
NBA champion (1999, 2003, 2005)
NBA MVP (2002, 2003)
NBA Finals MVP (1999, 2003, 2005)
All-Defensive First Team honors six times
All-Defensive Second Team honors twice (1998 and 2004)
Eight-time All-NBA First Team (1997-2005)
All-NBA Second Team (2006)
The 1998 Rookie of the Year
7-time All-Star (no game was held in 1999)
Named the 2003 USA Basketball Male Athlete of the Year
Considering TD has a few more years I think his accomplishments to this point are definitely comparable.
The bold are Td's accomplishments that are currently 1less, the same, or greater then Magic;s accomplishments.
this is Magic's 13yr NBA career against Timmy's 9 year career.
Already these stats are COMPAREABLE and timmy still has 4 years to match Magic's time in the league.
And you know he will be playing at least 5 or 6 more.
ObiwanGinobili
07-12-2006, 02:01 PM
Was Magic ever 2 blocks shy a quadruple double in a clinching Finals game?
thats one of my fav memories.
lets reflect on that for a moment.... awww. that was sweet.
I need that on DVD.
Mavs_man_41
07-12-2006, 02:01 PM
^ why would he want to leave a team he's helped build and have so much success? Several years back orlando was pushing hard for him during free agency and he never left. I see him finishing his career as a spur.
mabber
07-12-2006, 02:08 PM
Put Kareem on Duncan's team and they probably don't lose a championship in the 2000s.
No doubt about that.
shaggy17
07-12-2006, 02:10 PM
^ why would he want to leave a team he's helped build and have so much success? Several years back orlando was pushing hard for him during free agency and he never left. I see him finishing his career as a spur.
If you want to know why your getting flamed just go back and look at page 1 of this thread and youll see why. You started all of this making a dumbass claim that Duncan isnt on legendary greatness status :rolleyes
jman3000
07-12-2006, 02:15 PM
the notion that Tim would leave is retarded on so many levels... this isn't shaq going to the big market in la to make movies and become super famous... this is an island boy who found his niche in a small market city that truly appreciates him. He isn't going anywhere.
jman3000
07-12-2006, 02:16 PM
and Tim is in the same class as Magic ... I'm pretty sure Magic would say the same as well as any other NBA legend for that matter.
Spurs Dynasty 21
07-12-2006, 05:03 PM
Duncan will be leaving if this offseason is a bomb like it's turning out to be
Extra Stout
07-12-2006, 05:09 PM
Lol one of the best ever to play in the nba? Personally, i dont even think he is the best spur of all time, i think david robinson has him barely beat.
:lmao
When exactly did you start following the NBA? May 2006, right?
violentkitten
07-12-2006, 05:29 PM
i just took a piss. at least something felt good today.
TDMVPDPOY
07-13-2006, 11:44 PM
hey i wonder if duncan is goin to excercise teh option, and then sign a new contract under that new CBA? MAX!!
mabber
07-14-2006, 02:02 AM
hey i wonder if duncan is goin to excercise teh option, and then sign a new contract under that new CBA? MAX!!
He'll be too old in 3 years.
charmie21
07-14-2006, 10:36 AM
the notion that Tim would leave is retarded on so many levels... this isn't shaq going to the big market in la to make movies and become super famous... this is an island boy who found his niche in a small market city that truly appreciates him. He isn't going anywhere.
That statement made me love Timmy more.. and yeah, I believe that he's not going anywhere. Timmy's the core of this team and he knows that. He won't let the team just crumble into pieces. I believe in him, with all my heart.
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