The Lions Blow...

[DarkReign]

...that is all.







Figured I would represent the Lie-downs so as the Detroit folks have someplace to post their woes.

Disgruntled, I am looking at you.

[sa_butta]

Maybe Kitna will do them some good, with all those WR's they should be decent on offense. That is if they stay healthy.

[DarkReign]

Maybe Kitna will do them some good, with all those WR's they should be decent on offense. That is if they stay healthy.

:lmao

Appreciate the optomism, but these are the Lions. Their linebacking core is non-existent, their CBs are highly overrated and the d-line has one good player.

The offense can score 40 points a game and they would still lose.

Lets not get into offense either. Harrington, while a complete tool and inconsistent, wasnt the problem. The problem was physically allergic players.

These receivers are some of the most sad-sac pieces of uneducated, ghetto trash we have ever had the disservice of having paraded around town.

TO is smart. Rogers/Williams are dumb beyond the basements of any Wonderlic test you could find. I am in serious doubt these nimwits sign their checks with aything other than "X".

Roy Williams is a very aloof person. He very much thinks himself better and above anyone or anything. Arrogance for doing.......what? Thats right, nothing at all.

[degenerate_gambler]

Matt Millen -- how does this asshat still have a job?

[leemajors]

martz said kitna has what it takes!
at least your offense should improve, martz can probably get those WR's to produce. even if martz is a crappy head coach, he is an incredible offensive coordinator.

[Vizzini]

I was having a decent sports year (regular season sucess by the Wings, Pistons and Tigs) until you mention them. They are those of which we must not speak of.

[DarkReign]

I was having a decent sports year (regular season sucess by the Wings, Pistons and Tigs) until you mention them. They are those of which we must not speak of.

:lmao

http://www.punknews.co.uk/assets/images/bands/buzzkill-democover.gif

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

Noooooooooooooooooooooo.

Blasphemy.

The typical season goes like this: optimism, encouragement, lots of head shaking, swearing, prayer, apathy, revolt...

And then we get to October...

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

DR's headline reminds me of this, how appropo:

http://www.pigazette.com/Pigraphics/DETROIT%20BLOWS.jpg

[degenerate_gambler]

AHAHAAHAHAAA!!!

that was an actual paper??

[midgetonadonkey]

The Lions do suck, but they are in the worst division of a terrible conference. They can fall ass backwards into the playoffs if Martz can get them to score some points.

[sa_butta]

The Lions do suck, but they are in the worst division of a terrible conference. They can fall ass backwards into the playoffs if Martz can get them to score some points.I dont think scoring points will be as much of a problem as will holding other teams from scoring. Their D is horrible.

[DarkReign]

Noooooooooooooooooooooo.

Blasphemy.

The typical season goes like this: optimism, encouragement, lots of head shaking, swearing, prayer, apathy, revolt...

And then we get to October...

http://www.pigazette.com/Pigraphics/DETROIT%20BLOWS.jpg

And he delivers, per usual.

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

http://i2.tinypic.com/23jjss4.jpg

[MarkCuban]

Noooooooooooooooooooooo.

Blasphemy.

The typical season goes like this: optimism, encouragement, lots of head shaking, swearing, prayer, apathy, revolt...

And then we get to October...
:lol

unfortunately Lions wont be going anywhere this year either with the Packers and Bears. maybe they wont get last place but then again somebody on their team will probly make some stupid mistake in a big game

[DarkReign]

Just wanted to remind everyone...

Yup, they still blow.

[Marklar MM]

You know it is bad when an undrafted wide receiver has a better year than your three top 10 draft pick wide receivers combined.

[DarkReign]

You know it is bad when an undrafted wide receiver has a better year than your three top 10 draft pick wide receivers combined.

You know its bad when every coach hired in a 5 (or 6) year span can be coined as "M&M", automatically making everyone in the league think your team is gay.

Mourniwheg (stupid spelling), Mariucci (stupid spelling), Marinelli.

Ridiculous franchise. Sell the fucking team already to a owner that cares whether the team wins or loses.

The NFL is corrupt in the sense that every owner makes money right from the get-go on TV money. There is no incentive to win on an owners part.

You think Ford cares whether he loses when the stupid-fucking-fans keep selling the place out?

STOP GOING TO THE FUCKING GAMES!

[MajorMike]

Wow... waaah attack

[johngateswhiteley]

...Lions will play well this year (or better).

[DarkReign]

Your sig!

AAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!

[Vizzini]

William Clay Ford only cares about protecting his assests and what is best for his personal sucess. This is the reason the Lions do not have cheerleaders, b/c Ford is afraid of a boycott from female groups.

[BUMP]

nah, im serious. Lions will have a winning record. somethin like 8-8, 9-7 they wont make the playoffs, but Martz as offensive coordinator helps. you have to have some optimism about their D, cause they can create turnovers. they wont be makin the playoffs til millen's gone, cause he doesnt know how to manage

[scott]

The Lions do suck, but they are in the worst division of a terrible conference. They can fall ass backwards into the playoffs if Martz can get them to score some points.

The NFC is a "terrible" conference? Thats a bit of an assinine statement.

[Chris]

The Lions do suck, but they are in the worst division of a terrible conference. They can fall ass backwards into the playoffs if Martz can get them to score some points.


http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/7251/656homerjpg150150pa0.jpg

[GrandeDavid]

Noooooooooooooooooooooo.

Blasphemy.

The typical season goes like this: optimism, encouragement, lots of head shaking, swearing, prayer, apathy, revolt...

And then we get to October...

:lmao

Bro, that's how it used to be for us Bengals fans...and its getting to be that way for us Texans fans as well.

[Marklar MM]

The NFC is a "terrible" conference? Thats a bit of an assinine statement.

The NFC North is terrible.

[DarkReign]

The NFC North is terrible.

Scott said conference, not division.

NFC North is a horrible, horrible division. The NFC Conference is actually quite good.

[DarkReign]

Just another friendly update....Yup, still suck horribly.

Thank you for being the sole embarassment of all Detroit sports, yet occupy the most popular competition.


Bill Ford, I hate you. Sell the team. Good day, sir.

Sincerely,
Everyone without the last name Ford

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

C'mon, Dark, the season isn't lost until the first Monday of the season. You know better...

[Vizzini]

C'mon, Dark, the season isn't lost until the first Monday of the season. You know better...


Seattle is going to beat the hell out of them, I can see it right now.

[tlongII]

Seattle is going to beat the hell out of them, I can see it right now.


I hope you are right. It's a nice way for the 'hawks to open the season.

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

Seattle may score 50 in WK 1. Seriously.

No doubt they will cover the double digit spread. None.

My guess: Seahawks 41 - Lions 10

Fucking Lions, I hate you all.

[Marklar MM]

Lions with 10 points. LOL. Jason Hanson will have every point.

[Vizzini]

Seattle may score 50 in WK 1. Seriously.

No doubt they will cover the double digit spread. None.

My guess: Seahawks 41 - Lions 10

Fucking Lions, I hate you all.


The great thing about it is that I will be there in person to witness the carnage firsthand. I know if I want them to get better, that I shouldn't spend a dime supporting the organization, but in the end, I wanted to see what a good team will look like, plus I've never been to Ford Field, and I have Shaun Alexander on my Fantasy Team this year, so it will be nice witnessing him lead me to victory in the first week.

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

I changed my mind: Lions 27 - Seahawks 21.

Yeah, yeah, I just had some piping hot cornbread...

Believe it!

[sa_butta]

Detroit Lions Assistant Coach Arrested Twice for Drunk, Nude Driving

DEARBORN, Mich. — A Detroit Lions (http://javascript<b></b>:siteSearch('Detroit%20Lions');) assistant coach was arrested twice in the past two weeks — once while police say he was driving nude and a week later on suspicion of drunken driving.

Police in the Detroit suburb of Dearborn said Joe Cullen (http://javascript<b></b>:siteSearch('Joe%20Cullen');), who coaches the team's defensive line, was pulled over Aug. 24 and ticketed on suspicion of indecent and obscene conduct.

The ticket does not provide any other information why Cullen allegedly was nude. The Lions said alcohol was involved.

Then, on Sept. 1, police stopped his 2006 Ford Explorer and determined he had a blood-alcohol content of 0.12 percent, court records show. The legal limit for drivers in Michigan in 0.08 percent.

Cullen, who lives in Dearborn, posted bond in both misdemeanor cases and was coaching at Wednesday's practice.

The 38-year-old, who was hired from the University of Illinois (http://javascript<b></b>:siteSearch('University%20of%20Illinois');), issued a statement Wednesday to apologize.

"I would like to apologize to the Detroit Lions organization, our fans, my family and friends for any embarrassment these incidents have caused," he said. "These incidents represent a mistake in judgment on my part. I deeply regret them and have learned a valuable lesson. It won't happen again."

Lions president Matt Millen (http://javascript<b></b>:siteSearch('president%20Matt%20Millen');) said in a statement that Cullen has requested treatment.

"We are obviously very disappointed," the statement said. "These are very serious matters that will be handled sternly and appropriately by our organization."

Cullen was scheduled to appear next week in 19th District Court for both cases.

Cullen was fired from the University of Mississippi (http://javascript<b></b>:siteSearch('University%20of%20Mississippi');) in 2005 after an alcohol-related arrest at a restaurant.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,212658,00.html

[DarkReign]

:lmao Go Lions!

[tlongII]

Drunk, Nude driving? WTF?! :lmao

[Marklar MM]

I guess the Lions will suck this year. The D-line coach is already out getting wasted.

[DarkReign]

Update: still Blow.

[T Park]

Holding the Seahawks to 9 points is impressive.

:fu fuckers Hasselbeck is my QB 3 out of 4 times.

[tlongII]

Shaun Rogers is a beast for D Tackle on the Lions.

[SpellCheckChic]

(stupid spelling)

Hey watch it Buddy.

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

I'll reserve my analysis until after the Bears game. They'll cover the 7.5 point spread, which is ridiculous...

[valluco]

:lmao

Bro, that's how it used to be for us Bengals fans...and its getting to be that way for us Texans fans as well.
you've got that right.

[DarkReign]

Keeping everyone up to date on the Championship goings-on of our beloved Lions...

Yup. Still suck ass.

And now back to your regularly scheduled posting.

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

Well, I decided to wait until after yesterday's debacle to judge. Surprisingly, it's the same old fucking Lions.

Penalties, TOs, dancing after a 1st down trailing by 24, missed assignments, benching a 1st round pick in favor of a guy you signed two days ago, making a shitty QB look like Montana, etc.

They'll be lucky to win 4 games. Thank God for apathy.

[brian3]

Well, I decided to wait until after yesterday's debacle to judge. Surprisingly, it's the same old fucking Lions.

Penalties, TOs, dancing after a 1st down trailing by 24, missed assignments, benching a 1st round pick in favor of a guy you signed two days ago, making a shitty QB look like Montana, etc.

They'll be lucky to win 4 games. Thank God for apathy.
:bang :frying: :madrun
pretty much

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

Dear God, please make it stop. Please?!?


When Albom asked Williams why he celebrated a reception with his team already trailing by two scores, Williams responded, "I celebrate first downs all the time. I'm not gonna stop that. I'm an exciting player. If I do something exciting, I'm gonna show my actions."

Albom responded, "But you were losing, 10-0."

"What does that mean? ... That means nothing to me. The score means nothing," Williams told Albom.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2592484&campaign=rss&source=NFLHeadlines

What a fucking retard. Seriously, shut the fuck and win a game before you talk out of your ass. Are you going to guarantee every week, you fucking douchebag? Fuck, they drive me crazy. Crazy, I tell you.

[DarkReign]

And with the 7th pick in the 2004 draft, the Lions select Roy Willams from Texas.

Boooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!

[clambake]

What the fuck is wrong with ex-longhorn football players lately?

Roy Williams- shit for brains
Cedric Benson- "I'll make sure you hate me soon"
Ricky Williams- soon to be linked with Michael Jackson

Waiting for the Michael Huff shoe to drop.

[sa_butta]

Lions | Tucker questionable for Week 4
Wed, 27 Sep 2006 21:42:48 -0700

<A href="http://www.kffl.com/team/16/nfl">Detroit Lions OT Rex Tucker (http://www.kffl.com/player/317/nfl) (knee) missed the team portion of practice Wednesday, Sept. 27 and is questionable for the Week 4 game.


Lions | Stokes questionable for Week 4
Wed, 27 Sep 2006 21:42:28 -0700

<A href="http://www.kffl.com/team/16/nfl">Detroit Lions OT Barry Stokes (http://www.kffl.com/player/456/nfl) (hamstring) missed the team portion of practice Wednesday, Sept. 27 and is questionable for the Week 4 game.


Lions | Bryant questionable for Week 4
Wed, 27 Sep 2006 21:42:08 -0700

<A href="http://www.kffl.com/team/16/nfl">Detroit Lions CB Fernando Bryant (http://www.kffl.com/player/880/nfl) (ankle) practiced Wednesday, Sept. 27 and is questionable for the Week 4 game.


Lions | A. Lewis OUT for Week 4
Wed, 27 Sep 2006 21:41:38 -0700

<A href="http://www.kffl.com/team/16/nfl">Detroit Lions LB Alex Lewis (http://www.kffl.com/player/9818/nfl) (knee) missed the team portion of practice Wednesday, Sept. 27 and is out for the Week 4 game.


Lions | Kennedy OUT for Week 4
Wed, 27 Sep 2006 21:37:55 -0700

<A href="http://www.kffl.com/team/16/nfl">Detroit Lions S Kenoy Kennedy (http://www.kffl.com/player/613/nfl) (foot) missed the team portion of practice Wednesday, Sept. 27 and is out for the Week 4 game.

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

Noooooooooooooooooooooo.

Blasphemy.

The typical season goes like this: optimism, encouragement, lots of head shaking, swearing, prayer, apathy, revolt...

And then we get to October...


Right on track...

[DarkReign]

Right on track...

:lmao Dead. On. (for most fans, I on the other hand, had no such delusions)

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

Fantasy peeps, start Brad Johnson and every WR and TE on the Minny roster.

http://www.spymandesign.com/since57/billboard1web.jpg

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

Since all the Lions do is lose, I have officially jumped on the 0-16 bandwagon. They might as well be perfect at something, anything.

Three starting OL are out, RW and KJ might not play, and the D is atrocious.

Bet the Bills hard this week...

Once the Tigers' season is over, it is going to get very, very ugly in Lion land.

Here's hoping for perfection!

[DarkReign]

My girlfriend was offered tickets to the Bills game this past week and I told her to pass them. She was pissed.

Much like my WalMart stance, I will not goto Ford Field, and even if I did because she wants to see it, I will not spend money in the place. Ever.

So I told her, unless you want to pay parking ($30), for beer ($8-9 a piece) and any food, sure I will go. But I will never reach toward my wallet for a sad-sack, piece of shit organization like the Lions ever.

She passed on them. Good girl.

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

I was offered a chance to go to the Bills game as well. I passed.

[Obstructed_View]

Since all the Lions do is lose, I have officially jumped on the 0-16 bandwagon. They might as well be perfect at something, anything.

Three starting OL are out, RW and KJ might not play, and the D is atrocious.

Bet the Bills hard this week...

Once the Tigers' season is over, it is going to get very, very ugly in Lion land.

Here's hoping for perfection!
Three of four teams in town being championship caliber is pretty good, though.

[DarkReign]

BREAKING NEWS!!

Lions sit comfortably in 32nd place in all major publications Power Rankings and are in a 3 way tie for last place in the league.

Conclusion...

Stop buying the fucking tickets! Stop going to the fucking games!

/PSA

[NBA Junkie]

They'll beat the Vikings on Sunday in Motown. Book it!

Brad Johnson sucks...Troy Williamson sucks...That whole offense sucks!

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

So does Millen re-up before the season ends or after? Another 5 years should do the trick.

Marinelli blows, McCown is playing WR over a top 10 pick, Kitna still starting at QB is laughable, they call timeouts like no other, they have zero depth/minimal starting talent because they have the worst scouting/personnel dept. in the NFL. Sadly, they won't be mediocre for at least another 3 years.

Fuck you Matt Millen.

Fuck you William Clay Ford.

Fuck you Junior.

You made me not care about the Lions and I hope you default on that $18 billion.

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

Just a few numbers under the Matt Millen regime for those not in the know:


23-69 overall record (only 3 consecutive undefeated seasons away from mediocrity!!!)

5-41 road record (words cannot express the futility of this stat)

23 consecutive road losses (NFL record)

6 consecutive double-digit losing seasons (NFL record for a GM to keep his job)


Okay, now I'll let this thread die much like the spirit of the Detroit Lion fan base.

[JeremyWariner]

When upper management from other teams start dogging your GM he needs to go.

[mikejones99]

All them ugly stats and still the lions are favored this week. 5 n 41 road record has to be one of the worst Ever

[JeremyWariner]

All them ugly stats and still the lions are favored this week. 5 n 41 road record has to be one of the worst Ever

Living in metro detroit not having an NFL team to cheer for your whole life is the worst ever.

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

Stolen from CardSharp on MLive and tweaked a bit:

The problem is we, the wretched, the heartbroken, the disappointed, the victory-deprived and disenfranchised, are the NFL's scorned and ridiculed. We are all scarred, damaged, flawed individuals.

Yes, my friends. We are Lions fans, and nothing more.

We expect catastrophe, and are suspect of success, while fearing the worst as we hope for the best.

We march bravely into Ford field eight times per year, with the grimness of resigned men marching into Hell.

We wear our Lions jerseys and caps proudly, if only to show the rest of the world that we have BALLS!

We scorn the ridicule from our fathers, and even our sons and daughters, as we tune our miserable televisions to FOX on Sunday afternoons. And then we watch stoically, as if witnessing a multiple-vehicle-fatality accident.

We read the Monday morning game summaries, much like a senior citizen in his twilight scans the obituaries through bifocal lenses.

We are Lions fans, and we carry our shame on our sleeves.

Our enemy is not the vaunted Packers, with their swashbuckling quarterback, who has stabbed our hearts repeatedly, only to see us rise again from the dead.

Our enemy is not the hated Vikings, with their gay purple jerseys and party boat bye weeks.

And our enemy is not the Bears, with their new stadium, dominating defense and swirling winds.

We have met the enemy, and the enemy is us.

My name is DLF, and I am a Lions fan. May God have mercy on my soul.

[MosesGuthrie]

DLF....who do you want the Lions to get with their sure to be very high draft pick?

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

Ideally, I'd want them to trade out of the #1 or #2 slot. Quinn has bust written all over him and you can't pick Thomas after franchising Backus last year. That's just way too much money to be tied up between both T's. Plus, with Jones going out with a severe foot injury, Peterson must be part of the equation(they'll probably pick him since he is the antithesis of a Mike Martz back).

Seriously, I hope they do what the Vikings did and just let the clock run out so the team behind them can pick before they do. Actually, does it really matter who they pick? None of them will work out here. See Harrington, Charles Rogers, Mike Williams, etc.

There is no hope left. None.

[MosesGuthrie]

You think Ford will finally pull the plug on Millen?

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

I can only hope. There is no basis or logical reasoning for him staying, except that the Fords are extremely loyal and like the guy.

[DarkReign]

NEWSFLASH!!

The Lions, after suffering a terrible defeat at the hands of the lowly Vikings, still blo...

Aw, fuck it.

[mikejones99]

Revenge of the running back for 3 touchdowns

[DarkReign]

Bumpety-BUMP-BUMP

[BeerIsGood!]

Your scrubs got dinked and dunked by Brady Quinn in the 4th quarter of the PS game. Your season's doomed!!

[Squid]

.

[Fillmoe_]

Matt Millen is my favorite GM, I'm glad hes the GM of the Lions and not the Niners.

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

The typical season goes like this: optimism, encouragement, lots of head shaking, swearing, prayer, apathy, revolt...

And then we get to October...

We'll from talking to people around town, it looks like we're right on track yet again...

[j-6]

I've never heard this one...

_____________________________


This guy walks into a bar wearing a Lions jersey and carrying a little dog that also has a Lions jersey on with a little Lions helmet, too.

The guy says to the bartender, 'Can my dog and I watch the Lions game here? My TV at home broke and my dog and I want to see the game'

The bartender replies, 'Normally, dogs in the bar would not be allowed, but it is not terribly busy in here, so you and the dog can have a seat at the end of the bar. But, if there is any trouble with you or the dog, I'll have to ask you to leave.' The guy agrees and he and his dog start watching the game.

Pretty soon the Lions kick a field goal and the dog jumps up on the bar and walks down the bar and gives everyone a high five.

The bartender says, 'Hey, that's cool! What does he do for a touchdown?'

The guys answers, 'I don't know, I've only had him for 3 years.'

[Horry For 3!]

You guys have Calvin Johnson...

[Fillmoe]

i see another #1 pick WR in detroits future....

[DNS Error]

mario?
limas?
adarius?

[DarkReign]

Aaaahhhhhhh.....

Now thats the Lions team Im used to watching.

:lmao

Worst 2-0 team ever. See ya when theyre 2-6.

[ShoogarBear]

ouch.

[T Park]

2-1 and who do they play next week...

[Flintstones32]

That's the problem with Kitna. His yards are always great, but he is horrible in the RZ. I don't understand it. Not that that would have mattered today. Turn his turnovers into TD's and we still lose.

Eagles O-line looked real good today. Not sure if it was rush or they just decided to play. I went to high school with Jon Runyan, he's a good lineman, but really thought we would be able to get pressure on McNabb.

[DarkReign]

That's the problem with Kitna. His yards are always great, but he is horrible in the RZ. I don't understand it. Not that that would have mattered today. Turn his turnovers into TD's and we still lose.

Eagles O-line looked real good today. Not sure if it was rush or they just decided to play. I went to high school with Jon Runyan, he's a good lineman, but really thought we would be able to get pressure on McNabb.

Kitna and the offense are not the problem. At all, not even slightly.

When your defense gives up 54 points, you cant expect your offense to make up for that.

Lions Blow. Thats the problem.

[Flintstones32]

Kitna and the offense are not the problem. At all, not even slightly.

When your defense gives up 54 points, you cant expect your offense to make up for that.

Lions Blow. Thats the problem.


Ya I know. Our Defense is really really bad. I just was trying to say that if Kitna could tighten up in the Rz and cut down on his mistakes, I think we'd still have a chance at a decent season. But you're right, if the defense does the same and cuts down their mistakes, we'd actually be a good football team.

Oh well. Been a lions fan for 25 years, got to see our only playoff victory, guess that'll have to do for a while. :ihit

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

The typical season goes like this: optimism, encouragement, lots of head shaking, swearing, prayer, apathy, revolt...

And then we get to October...

We're moving along a little slower this year, but still right on track...

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

Still not happy with this team.

It's nice that they're closing out and pulling away in close games, but they shouldn't even be in that position. The Lions could have put the Bears away early but continued to kill drives with blown assignments, penalties, TOs, etc. Plus, if they don't start getting better pass protection, Kitna won't make it past Week 8.

They're making progress and that's a good thing, but they still have a lot of work to do.

[T Park]

They're 3-1

:lol

gotta be happy with that

[tlongII]

These Lions fans are tough! :lol I think they're playing pretty well.

[Marklar MM]

Lions set NFL record with 34 fourth quarter points. :smokin

[DarkReign]

The Lions....errrr.....uhhh.....hmmmmm...

Won?

WTF?

Got my bad-mojo working.

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

They are making progress - finally.

The return of KJ has helped immensely. Defense is getting better each week and we are seeing glimpses of how much of a stud CJ can be.

The road only gets tougher for them with seven of their last nine against teams .500 or better.

Pleasantly surprised, but still not sold.

[Flintstones32]

They are making progress - finally.

The return of KJ has helped immensely. Defense is getting better each week and we are seeing glimpses of how much of a stud CJ can be.

The road only gets tougher for them with seven of their last nine against teams .500 or better.

Pleasantly surprised, but still not sold.


I don't know. I really think they can finish 10-6. After seeing KJ today, I know it was against a depleted and worn down bears D, but they looked pretty good. I still wish we could do better in RZ attempts though. Seems we're always going for FG's.

And yes, CJ is going to be a stud. Kitna needs to stop holding onto the ball so dang long also.

[DarkReign]

Well, this thread couldnt have a worse title. Im still reserved in my judgement of them due to years of pessimism and failure.

If/When they get 8 wins, I'll start dancing. Denver was a team that a good team should beat....the Lions routed them. Really, really fun to watch the Lions rout someone for a change....

[samikeyp]

Props on that win yesterday. Hopefully both Dallas and Detroit will in on Turkey Day this year.

[peewee's lovechild]

I must say I was impressed with the Lions win.

I haven't said that in damn near a decade.

But, I don't understand how they can be getting blown out one game (Eagles) and then just ass ramming a team the next.

Props to the Detroit D.
I should've picked them up for my FF team, I could've done with the points.

[NBA Junkie]

Looking at the schedule prior to the season, did anyone honestly believe the Thanksgiving day game between the Packers and Lions could possibly determine the NFC North champ?

[samikeyp]

Good point. When was the last time a GB-Detroit game determined a division title? Was Bobby Layne QB? :)

[peewee's lovechild]

Good point. When was the last time a GB-Detroit game determined a division title? Was Bobby Layne QB? :)

I'm sure Wayne Fonts(sp) was still coaching.

But, I could be wrong.

[NBA Junkie]

Good point. When was the last time a GB-Detroit game determined a division title? Was Bobby Layne QB? :)

Speaking of which, Lion fans are convinced that he was the reason the Lions have stunk for the longest time.

http://www.curseofbobbylayne.com/

Note that the curse isn't lifted for another 335 days, so there is still plenty of time for a total Lion meltdown as the season closes. :lol

[samikeyp]

:lmao

That was funny!

[Flintstones32]

This is a huge game for themthis week against the cardinals. After a big win against Denver, a game like this coming up is one they are supposed to win, so we'll see what kind of team they are if they can win the ones they are supposed to. Especially on the road.

They have some tough games coming up, so this is a definite needed win I think.

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

If they can get to 7-3 going into the Thanksgiving game, I'll believe.

Still pissed that Fox froze the November 18th Giants game.

That should be the Sunday nighter, not NE/Buffalo.

[Vizzini]

If they can get to 7-3 going into the Thanksgiving game, I'll believe.

Still pissed that Fox froze the November 18th Giants game.

That should be the Sunday nighter, not NE/Buffalo.


There are two ways to take that, one is negative, the other one is that Fox didn't want to lose the best game it had on its lineup. I'm going with the latter, as Joe Buck and Troy Aikman can just stay in Detroit that week for the Turkey Day game as well. I'm hoping the Cowboys/Lions game is on Sunday night in December. I hope Dallas being on Sunday night every other week wont be a problem. (I think there is a limtit to the # of times you can be on Sunday night)

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

It is almost guaranteed that the Lions/GB game in Lambeau will be on SNF.

Possibly could be Favre's last game so they won't give up the last opportunity to wrap their lips firmly around his cock.

[NBA Junkie]

The Lions still haven't proven that they can beat a quality team on the road. Some may point to the win at Soldier Field, but the Bears have played like crap there all season. Even the sorry ass Vikings won in Chicago.

[JamStone]

The Vikings didn't beat the Bears. Adrian Peterson beat the Bears. And, judging how the rest of his season has gone, he's capable of doing that. The Bears also had gotten a lot of their players back from injury and had acclimated to Griese at QB with a couple wins over Philadelphia on the road (not impressive but still a road win) and a win over Divisional leader Green Bay at Green Bay. Say what you want to say, but that Chicago road win was a quality win for the Lions.

Two road wins in the NFL is no joke. I don't care if both wins are against Miami and St. Louis. Winning on the road in the NFL is no joke.

[NBA Junkie]

A win at Lambeau will shut me up, but they still have a lot to prove.

I mean, afterall, they're still the Lions.

Watch them lay an egg in Arizona on Sunday. :lol

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

A win at Lambeau will shut me up, but they still have a lot to prove.

I mean, afterall, they're still the Lions.


They'll always be the Lions.

[DarkReign]

They'll always be the Lions.

Sadly, yes.

[Jimcs50]

They do blow, my Redskins beat them 34-3.

[mikejones99]

They are underdogs at Arizona this week. and would be +17 against NE

[NBA Junkie]

Now that's the Lions we've all come to know and love! :lol

[ShoogarBear]

Hokey smokes. What is the deal with these guys?:dizzy

[peewee's lovechild]

The Arizona "PowerHouse" took it to the house!!!!!!!!!

[Marklar MM]

Good ol fashion Lions. Do good one week, then play horrible the next. But I guess thats what happens when your best option on one side of the o-line is George Foster who is good for at least 3 false start penalties a game, such as the one that brought back a touchdown pass.

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

People are surprised?

Martz called one of the worst games I've ever seen. This loss is squarely on the shoulders of the "genius" and his boytoy, Kitna.

The only good news is that everybody else lost.

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

The downward spiral has begun. Again, they managed to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

One question remains: How many games do they win from here on out? 0? 1? 2?

I'm going with 1, leaving them at 7-9.

This team will be better next year with a new OC and some more top flight defensive talent.

Oh, and using CJ more than 40% of the time on offense. Kid should be starting but only played 23 snaps yesterday. That is an obvious misuse of talent, Mr. Martz.

Same old rodeo...

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

Can I change it to zero wins for the rest of the year?

Please?

[Hank the Tank]

:lmao good old fashioned ass kickin'

i love watchin these jokers lose and pissin my family off.

[Marklar MM]

Ford should just retire...he runs the football team the same as his car company.

[Extra Stout]

Ford should just retire...he runs the football team the same as his car company.
That's not true... if it were true, he would have renamed the team the Ford Footballers, they would have chrome face masks, they would skimp on payroll so that they could have 37 different kinds of shoulder pads, and all their best players would be from Mexico.

[JamStone]

that was ugly ... time to talk about the draft ...


draft all offensive linemen and cornerbacks .... even though still have holes at middle linebacker and kick returner. need all the quality o-linemen and corners they can get.

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

That would be a smart plan. But this is Millen. Every facet of the team has holes. Guys they draft they don't use or are horrid. This team is going nowhere for at least the next three years. At least. And Millen is going to be the first 100 loss GM in NFL history. No one will come close to touching that record.

He passed over Harris for Stanton when MLB was a huge need. Passed over Merriman, Ware and DJ for Mike Williams. Guy doesn't know what he's doing and everybody knows it except the guy who owns the team.


That said, I'm guessing TE and RB in the first two rounds.

[ShoogarBear]

Forget Isiah. How does Millen keep his job?

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

Your guess as is good as mine, Shoog.

No rational argument can be made for him still having a job, let alone an argument for him to continue to do the job.

It makes me want to cry.

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

30-78 soon to be 30-82.

Absofuckinglutely absurd.

[Flintstones32]

yeah I have to agree, Millen is absolutely horrible, but I don't think he is the worst part of the organization. He may be really bad, but the Fords are what keep the lions losing. Detroit is a great fan base, but until the Fords sell the team to someone who actually cares about winning, we're going to be stuck with the usual " Wait til next year...." line.

[Marklar MM]

Actually flintstone...I think all that needs to happen is let the younger Ford run the team. Elder Ford has no clue what the hell he is doing going on the better part of a half century.

[Marklar MM]

Oh, and they will skip all our needs and draft another bust qb and another wide receiver. Oh, and disgruntled...the Lions will win the last game, effectively moving down 5 spots in the draft, which happens every year.

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

Uh, no ... they won't.

They haven't won in GB since '91. Even GB's 2nd string can beat the Lions.

And it doesn't matter where they draft if they don't draft the right players/positions and the same douchebag is making the picks.

[Vinnie_Johnson]

I can see Dallas by 15 at this point next week.

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

Extremely long letter to Millen, from DisgruntledLionFan#3,027, which was sent to local and national writers/pubs, the entire Lions organization, etc.:




Matt Millen,

Once again we're coming into the Christmas season and in most people's mind it's the giving season. You've been with the Detroit Lions organization for nearly seven years and to the best of my knowledge have done nothing but take from the lions to the tune of about $30,000,000. Please correct me if I'm wrong, but what have you ever given back to the Detroit community? Isn't it true that since you've been here all you have done is take? While I may be speaking for myself in this writing, I can assure you the greatest gift you could ever give to the lions organization and their die hard fans is your RESIGNATION.

I truly appreciated your passion and efforts on the field and viewed you as a very knowledgeable TV commentator. I actually had hope for the lions when your hiring was announced. However, I think even you would have to agree you have gotten in way over your head as a NFL Franchise President/CEO/GM and have taken on much more responsibility than you're capable of handling. Everyone has some level of pride and while I'm confident yours is extremely high, your being stubborn and prideful is truly hurting a lot more people than you can ever imagine. That's a high price to pay on your part, agreed? Come on Matt, money should no longer be an object for use as you have taken enough money over the last seven years to set up you, your kids, and even their grand kids for life!

I can't blame you for taking on a this tremendous opportunity and none of us really know what we are capable of until we challenge and stretch ourselves to see what we truly can accomplish. I also can't blame you for taking an offer that no one in their right mind could refuse, but at some point personal gain has to be weighed against the results of your efforts and how they positively or negatively effect others. While I'm confident you've given it your best effort over the last Millen-ium, unfortunately your best is obviously not good enough, even to the most casual of viewers. Thank you for your efforts.

Seven years seem like an eternity for most Lion fans and I find it truly sad to see that at this point so many would be thrilled just to see the team finally get back the level of mediocrity it was stuck at prior to your arrival. How about you? Matt, you've had plenty of time to learn on the job and unfortunately things have only gotten worse from the time you assumed your current position with the Lions in a league ripe with parity. After seven years of opportunity and a true advantage (on better performing teams) to draft the top college players and build a winning organization, it's utterly amazing and hard to believe how low this organization has sank. 30-78, and just when we thought we had already seen rock bottom, well, guess again!

Matt, you have absolutely no idea how frustrating it is to be a long time die hard fan and year after year have to put up with watching the team you've faithfully followed continue to be beyond pathetic. It's even more frustrating to have to sit back and watch Bill Ford continue to accept the bar being so low and not seeing the light that so many others so easily see and yet feel so helpless in not being able to take any action. You've seen the Millen Man Marches of protest, the chants of Fire Millen! have been heard in arenas across the country, and the internet web sites build around you and your unbelievable failures. There truly is nothing to get excited about now or in the foreseeable future with this organization!

In closing, I'm not going to beg you to do what's truly right for the organization and give thousands of people something to be thankful for during the giving season. My only hope is this letter inspires you to think a little harder about the state of the lions and what effect you and only you could have on it's future. At this point, It's all up to you Matt. You need to take the action Bill Ford doesn't appear to have the courage to take. How about you, do you have the courage to admit you not capable of doing the job? I guess we'll find out soon, eh?

Regards,

firemillen



Dude is signed until, I believe, 2011!! How crazy is that?




Despite the team's poor record under Millen, a number of high first-round draft picks who were widely considered colossal failures (Charles Rogers, Joey Harrington, and Mike Williams among them), and widespread disappointment among fans, the media, and even some players, Millen received a five-year contract extension from owner William Clay Ford at the start of the 2005 season. Following the team's 3-13 performance in 2006, Ford announced that Millen would be retained as General Manager for at least another season.

Short of asking God for help, we have no hope left.

None.

[ynh]

I can't believe I actually fall for their crap every year and think they changed.

[ShoogarBear]

Wow, they just rolled over today.

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

It's what they do.

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

Uh, no ... they won't.

They haven't won in GB since '91. Even GB's 2nd string can beat the Lions.

And it doesn't matter where they draft if they don't draft the right players/positions and the same douchebag is making the picks.

That was an easy prediction. The GB fans behind the Lions bench were chanting, "CFL! CFL! CFL!" and "We Want a Refund!" because the Lions couldn't compete with GB's 2nd and 3rd stringers. How apropos.

Seventeen straight losses in GB.

Fuck you, Lions.

Fuck you.

[Marklar MM]

Only the Lions can start 6-2 and finish the season 7-9

[ShoogarBear]

Rumor is that Martz is going to be fired. That should solve the problem.

[Marklar MM]

Rumor is that Martz is going to be fired. That should solve the problem.


Won't solve shit. We still have the worst GM and one of the worst owners in sports. They will just hire some dumbass to run the offense. I mean...Millen did hire Marty Mornhinweg.

The last coach the Lions had with a winning record...Bob Ross(5-4) and Gary Moeller(4-3)...the season before Millen was hired. Hell, Moeller may have been the only coach in the last 40 years to have a overall winning record.

[ShoogarBear]

Don't make me have to go find a sarcasm smiley.

[Marklar MM]

Don't make me have to go find a sarcasm smiley.

Oh well. Its good for me to vent. I don't want to end up shooting squirrels.

[DarkReign]

Do people finally understand this pain?

I could have started this thread in 2000 and it would still be relevant today.

I will bump this thread every year, because shit just doesnt change in Lions-land.

Bill Ford, Sr. do the world a favor and die already. Please.

[The Franchise]

Correct.

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

Do people finally understand this pain?

I could have started this thread in 2000 and it would still be relevant today.

I will bump this thread every year, because shit just doesnt change in Lions-land.

Bill Ford, Sr. do the world a favor and die already. Please.

Dude, I would kill for a 9-7 season like in 2000. At least they were competitive back then.

Plus, Millen wasn't here. Pre-Millen = mediocrity = the good ol' days = sad.

At least I won't be able to watch the next two losses. Think Martz is itching to run up the score on this pathetic Lions defense?

[mytespurs]

...that is all.







Figured I would represent the Lie-downs so as the Detroit folks have someplace to post their woes.

Disgruntled, I am looking at you.

I can commiserate with you....I'm a Dolphins fan......at least your team has been competitive...the dolphins stunk up the cardinals stadium yesterday.....:lol

[DarkReign]

Dude, I would kill for a 9-7 season like in 2000. At least they were competitive back then.

Plus, Millen wasn't here. Pre-Millen = mediocrity = the good ol' days = sad.

At least I won't be able to watch the next two losses. Think Martz is itching to run up the score on this pathetic Lions defense?

Ah shit, youre right. I did mean 2001.

Martz has been blamed for everything including the ebola virus.

Hes going to tear the Lions secondary apart. Fucking. Pathetic.

[BlackSwordsMan]

become a cowboys fan

[DarkReign]

become a cowboys fan


I support my hometown teams or I dont support any team at all.

Thus the reason I dont watch much of the NFL and have no real perspective on the sport in general.

The Lions have been mediocre-to-piss-poor since I was 13. Im 28.

It will never end.

[DarkReign]

Think Martz is itching to run up the score on this pathetic Lions defense?

31-13....does that qualify as "running it up"?

Serious question.

:lmao @ the Lions.

[DarkReign]

http://detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080922/SPORTS0101/809220407


Ford Jr.: Millen should resign
Daniel Howes / The Detroit News

Bill Ford Jr. wants Matt Millen out as president of the Detroit Lions.

"It's embarrassing," Ford told The Detroit News Monday on the sidelines of the Detroit Economic Club. "The fans deserve better, and if I had the authority I'd fire the general manager."

Millen has been CEO and president of the Lions since 2001, and the team is headed for an eighth straight losing season with a 0-3 record in the first three games. The Lions are 31-84 under Millen, who Ford Jr. first tried to woo from the broadcast booth to the Lions' front office after the 1998 season.

Advertisement
Ford Jr. is vice chairman of the Lions and son of franchise owner William Clay Ford, who purchased the team in 1964. Ford Sr. has final say on Millen, and his son has not intruded publicly on his father's domain.

The Lions ended the exhibition season 4-0, the only franchise to do so. But since then, the team has imploded with a leaky defense and an ineffective offense.

Millen came to the Lions from the Fox Sports Network after a successful career as a broadcaster and NFL linebacker with the Raiders, 49ers and Redskins. He played on four Super Bowl champion teams.

But his leadership of the Lions has been anything but championship-level. Rod Marinelli, who was hired in 2006, is his fourth head coach, and Millen has a history of failed draft picks.

At least there is some hope for the franchise after that old coot is dead.

[ShoogarBear]

Wait, doesn't that article say that Junior is the one who brought Millen to the Lions in the first place?

[Reggie Miller]

Wait, doesn't that article say that Junior is the one who brought Millen to the Lions in the first place?

Ouch.

In response to other posts, YES, Martz HAS been blamed with everything, including the ebola virus.

HOWEVER, when Detroit casts him off, will he have the future of say, Dusty Baker or Ned Yost?

Think about it, won't you?

[Flintstones32]

draft time yet?

[spike_throw]

Matt Millen should leave team as things getting worst for Lions...

[DarkReign]

Millen reportedly out as Lions president/GM
Detroit News Staff

ALLEN PARK -- The Matt Millen era, one of the darkest periods in Detroit sports, apparently is over.

Whether he was fired, left on his own accord or some exit plan was reached mutually, was not revealed, but FoxSports.com reported Millen was informed Tuesday night that he was being relieved of his duties.

The action came two days after Bill Ford Jr., son of owner William Clay Ford, told reporters he would fire Millen if he had the authority.

Millen, who told reporters as late as Tuesday night that he would not quit, reportedly was at the Lions practice facility Wednesday morning and was seen packing up his office.

There was no immediate word on who will take over in the interim, though Executive Vice President and Chief Operating Officer Tom Lewand would be a possible choice.

Millen was hired by the Lions with no front office experience. In his eight years in the job his teams posted a 31-84 record. The team is 0-3 this season and has lost 10 of 11 games. The Lions never made the playoffs during Millen's tenure.

He has been roundly criticized for poor draft picks and failed free agent signings. In 2006, radio station WDFN organized a protest march, called the Millen Man March, which called for the team to fire Millen immediately. Fire Millen signs were seen at stadiums -- and not just football stadiums, throughout the country.

The Lions befuddled fans by giving Millen a five-year extension in 2004. There is some $10 million remaining on that contract.

Millen was an all-pro linebacker and won Super Bowls with the Oakland Raiders, San Francisco 49ers and Washington Redskins. He was working as a television analyst when the Lions hired him.



http://detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080924/SPORTS0101/809240417

[DarkReign]

Wait, doesn't that article say that Junior is the one who brought Millen to the Lions in the first place?

Yes it does. But looking back to 2001, I cannot fault a moribund franchise like the Lions for thinking outside the box and picking Millen, a proven championship player with no front office experience whatsoever.

At least they were trying something.

But it was obvious from about year 2 that the guy was in way over his head and was too stubborn to admit it. And Ford Sr. is complicit in all this by being his typical loyal-to-a-fault self (Ford Sr. invented, patented and continues to redefine that phrase).

Ford Jr wanted Millen, but after 2 years he knew the guy was overmatched and wanted him gone 3 years ago (right after the draft...Mike Williams anyone? Another receiver...again).

But Bill Sr. is an old stubborn curmudgeon, and stuck with him.

Junior is just waiting for the old motherfucker to die. And so is every Lions fan around the globe. The Lions are the laughing stock of the league for a better part of 10 years (if not more in the past pre-Barry), have yet to even make it to the Superbowl in franchise history, have exactly TWO wins in the playoffs in my lifetime (wait, or was that just 2 games and they went 1-1....fuck, its been so long).

He is the reason, a HUGE part of the reason. Everyone knows it, the radio talks about it, the blogs rap about it, the forums are all over it. Everyone knows it but good-ol-insulated, "I dont do interviews or answer any criticism from simple fans" Bill Ford Sr, who because he was fortunate enough to be born to a Ford, had the luxury of never having to give a fuck what anyone thought about his systematic dismantling of the Lions from perennial loser when he bought them, to perennial laughing stock, doormat of the league.

2 days ago Ford Jr spoke up....today maybe the old bastard finally listened. Its about fucking time. I might start watching more football again.

[DarkReign]

btw Shoog, any hostility you get in that post is NOT directed at you......lol.

I bet you knew that though.

[ShoogarBear]

The Matt Millen era, one of the darkest periods in Detroit sports, apparently is over.

:lol :lol

:danceclub




btw Shoog, any hostility you get in that post is NOT directed at you......lol.

I bet you knew that though.

Now I'm pissed, cause Vinny Cerrato might be the reigning titleholder as #1 dumbass running a club.

(Al Davis is in a special category all his own.)

[possessed]

:lol :lol

:danceclub





Now I'm pissed, cause Vinny Cerrato might be the reigning titleholder as #1 dumbass running a club.

(Al Davis is in a special category all his own.)

Al Davis is hardly a dumbass. Former AFL commish, godfather of the modern NFL, broke racial barriers by hiring the first hispanic and african-american coaches in the modern NFL, hired the highest ranking female executive in the NFL also managed to win 3 Superbowls, his team has appeared in 5. Not to mention he is an NFL Hall of Famer. Not exactly dumbass credentials.

He is simply a crazy old man who has lost his mind and doesn't always remember what decade he's in. Happens to the best of us in our twilight years.

[Flight3107]

Thats the past


Al Davis is a dumbass old man

[JamStone]

The Lions STILL Blow...

In other news, Clay Aiken is gay.


It's still going to be a shitty year and probably another 2-3 shitty years after that, at least. Even if the Lions make the right call with the next management personnel, it's going to take a while before they can clean up Millen's diarrhea of a mess he made here.

[samikeyp]

Al Davis is hardly a dumbass. Former AFL commish, godfather of the modern NFL, broke racial barriers by hiring the first hispanic and african-american coaches in the modern NFL, hired the highest ranking female executive in the NFL also managed to win 3 Superbowls, his team has appeared in 5. Not to mention he is an NFL Hall of Famer. Not exactly dumbass credentials.

He is simply a crazy old man who has lost his mind and doesn't always remember what decade he's in. Happens to the best of us in our twilight years.

That is true. He actually tried to fire Lane Kiffin twice already this season but both times Kiffin said "I'm Art Shell, I don't work for you anymore."

[possessed]

That is true. He actually tried to fire Lane Kiffin twice already this season but both times Kiffin said "I'm Art Shell, I don't work for you anymore."

That would explain why "Lance" is still there. :lol

[DarkReign]

:lmao

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

1-15 with the only win coming against the Skins?

Nah, they're going winless this season.

And Calvin Johnson, it's a shame that your talent is wasted in Detroit. You can flat out ball against anyone in this league, even with a scrub like Dan Orlovsky throwing you the ball.

Pad level. Claw the wall. Pound the rock.

Christ.

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

They really are going to start Pep after only two practices.

Unfuckingbelievable.

[Vinnie_Johnson]

They really are going to start Pep after only two practices.

Unfuckingbelievable.

Gonna be ugly.:depressed

[LakerHater]

They really are going to start Pep after only two practices.

Unfuckingbelievable.

Well they have noone else!!
http://board.freeones.com/images/smilies/dunno.gif

[Marklar MM]

Culpepper with 104 yards on 5/9 passing with 1 interception.

[IronMexican]

Congrats on draftng Stafford.

[monosylab1k]

Congrats on draftng Jeff George 2.0

fixed

[JamStone]

0-10

0-16 still very possible.

Keep the dream alive.

Believe!

[ShoogarBear]

This week's update should be most excellent.

[FlavoredIcecream]

lol, lions :lol

[DarkReign]

Well, seeing as the Lions are no longer selling out home games, we in the Metro cannot watch the slow systematic euthanizing of our beloved felines.

Sports Report: Lions up 17-0!

Update: Lions give up 34 unanswered points before exchanging meaningless field goals (Jason "Highest Scoring Lion in History" Hanson would like to thank the academy...)

Dante Culpepper looks every bit of horrible, they have no running back, their defense is abominable (especially the secondary) and their coaching staff is the single most pathetic conglomerate of clichés you could put together on a video for a sports broadcast.

"We have to compete better." "Tackling is all about pad-level." "Good morning men (only in reference to players, as if the crowd is full of people less-than men)". bla bla bla

0-16 is a very, very real possibility. How much you want to bet they draft a receiver with the 1st overall pick? I mean, why the hell not, right? The glaring weakness is obviously their receiver corp, who can question that?

This fucking franchise sucks. I have kept a sense of humor about it for 7 fucking years, but this is getting ridiculous....even for a Lie-downs fan.

Worst part...there is no "fix" per say. The franchise is so depleted of talent in every area of operation, from ownership/management to towel boys/gatorade guy, that there is no forseeable recovery.

We could draft Joe-fucking-Montana and still only win 4 games a year. Shit, give us Tom Brady, we'll ruin that sonofabitch in record time. LaDanian Tomlinson, welcome to 600 yds a year. Fuckety fuck fuck.

/rant

[BradLohaus]

Just imagine if the Packers hadn't drafted Tony Mandarich.

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

Well, seeing as the Lions are no longer selling out home games, we in the Metro cannot watch the slow systematic euthanizing of our beloved felines.

Sports Report: Lions up 17-0!

Update: Lions give up 34 unanswered points before exchanging meaningless field goals (Jason "Highest Scoring Lion in History" Hanson would like to thank the academy...)

Dante Culpepper looks every bit of horrible, they have no running back, their defense is abominable (especially the secondary) and their coaching staff is the single most pathetic conglomerate of clichés you could put together on a video for a sports broadcast.

"We have to compete better." "Tackling is all about pad-level." "Good morning men (only in reference to players, as if the crowd is full of people less-than men)". bla bla bla

0-16 is a very, very real possibility. How much you want to bet they draft a receiver with the 1st overall pick? I mean, why the hell not, right? The glaring weakness is obviously their receiver corp, who can question that?

This fucking franchise sucks. I have kept a sense of humor about it for 7 fucking years, but this is getting ridiculous....even for a Lie-downs fan.

Worst part...there is no "fix" per say. The franchise is so depleted of talent in every area of operation, from ownership/management to towel boys/gatorade guy, that there is no forseeable recovery.

We could draft Joe-fucking-Montana and still only win 4 games a year. Shit, give us Tom Brady, we'll ruin that sonofabitch in record time. LaDanian Tomlinson, welcome to 600 yds a year. Fuckety fuck fuck.

/rant

Smith actually looks like he can play. Averaging 4.5 YPC behind that OL is like 6 YPC behind a normal NFL OL.

Beyond that, dead on.

I'd rather take about Leino or Ericcson at this point.

[DarkReign]

Smith actually looks like he can play. Averaging 4.5 YPC behind that OL is like 6 YPC behind a normal NFL OL.

Thats a good point. Nice catch. Did you hear his recent quote? My buddy told me about it, Smith basically said almost verbatim...

"Its pretty obvious we're putting high school talent on a professional field."

...or some such. I like him already.


I'd rather take about Leino or Ericcson at this point.

:lol Damn salary cap.

[JamStone]

Donkey balls.

The Lions blow donkey balls.

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

Welcome to our world, America.

Did chuckle at the "Bail Out the Lions" poster.

Worst defense I have ever laid eyes on.

[Marklar MM]

YAY5U1kd02Q

[IronMexican]

I am rooting for you guys to win a game.

[baseline bum]

Today was a good day to have Lendale White and Rob Bironas starting on my fantasy team.

[DarkReign]

http://www.whidbey.com/nwlionsclub/TurkeyCartoon.jpg

:lmao

I hate this franchise. Please die already, Mr Ford.

[BUMP]

holy fucking god, idk what to say after that performance.

no fucking way they win a game this season.

[Trainwreck2100]

Welcome to our world, America.

Did chuckle at the "Bail Out the Lions" poster.

Worst defense I have ever laid eyes on.


I think anyone who saw that poster laughed, it was genius as it drew attention to the suckiness that is the Lions, and the suckiness that is the government.

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

So I was just looking at the NFC standings when I realized that if you add up the Lions victories the last three years they still wouldn't make the playoffs this year.


I <3 you, Lions.

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

Not bad, with some spot on lines.

CkgOgssOqss

[DarkReign]

That.

Was.

Epic.

[IronMexican]

So I was just looking at the NFC standings when I realized that if you add up the Lions victories the last three years they still wouldn't make the playoffs this year.


I <3 you, Lions.

Raiders have 9 wins over the past 3 years also:toast 2006 was just brutal, though. I think these Lions could beat that 2006 Raiders squad. We beat the Steelers on two defensive TD's one game:king

[IronMexican]

And I also remember that win in 2006 vs the Cowboys! That was epic, cause I wanted Detroit to win so we could have the #1 pick. :toast

[Hank the Tank]

YESSSSS!!!!

and the Lions are defeated again. 0-16 is still alive!!

3 more wins...ahem...losses to go!

[Kriz-Maxima]

Sundays suck.

[NBA Junkie]

The Lions actually moved the ball well all afternoon. The problem was they were ineffective in the red zone and failed on a couple of 4th and 1's deep in Viking territory.

They just find new and creative ways to lose fourth quarter leads this season. At least five that I know of.

[BUMP]

And I also remember that win in 2006 vs the Cowboys! That was epic, cause I wanted Detroit to win so we could have the #1 pick. :toast

:lol at that game even though im a cowboy fan

the Lions cant ever win and the one time it benefits them to lose, they go out and pull a big upset:lol

[DarkReign]

:lol at that game even though im a cowboy fan

the Lions cant ever win and the one time it benefits them to lose, they go out and pull a big upset:lol

They did the same thing the a couple years before that, I believe.

It was the last game of the season against Minnesota, iirc. Lose that game, you have the #1 pick. Win, you get #2.

They won, selected Charles Rogers with that pick. Yay....

[samikeyp]

Have they started printing out the 0-16 shirts yet?

[ATRAIN]

Have they started printing out the 0-16 shirts yet?

i would order one hahaha

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

Have they started printing out the 0-16 shirts yet?

Of course.

A few out there right now:

0-16 Yes We Can!

0-16 We are History.

0-16 Believe in Never.

My favorite is still this one:

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_N8YSLNSHEAM/SPSSsI5I6zI/AAAAAAAAMng/fBKrZ--c2yY/s1600/Lions.bmp

[DarkReign]

0-16

nuff said.

Mr Ford Sr, your death is highly anticipated you antiquated piece of dogshit. Dante forgot the 10th circle of hell dedicated to greedy, relic sports team owners.

[JudynTX]

Can we just ship the Lions to Canada? :lol

[ShoogarBear]

Belated congrats.

[DarkReign]

You know its that time of year again!

Thats 5 straight preseason wins in a row for the Lions. Woot.

[IronMexican]

Championship.

[manufan10]

You know its that time of year again!

Thats 5 straight preseason wins in a row for the Lions. Woot.

"We can build on this." - Herm Edwards


Championship.

:lol

[DarkReign]

Lions.

Superbowl Champions.

This year.

Book it.

[Dr Cox]

hahaha

nfc championship
detriot vs dallas

afc
okland vs bills

[JamStone]

Kevin Smith was quoted as saying that he'd rather win all four pre-season games and lose game 1 of the regular season than lose all four pre-season games but win game 1 of the regular season.

(This is 100% true. I'm not making it up.)

Detroit Lions logic. He fits right in.

[samikeyp]

Kevin Smith was quoted as saying that he'd rather win all four pre-season games and lose game 1 of the regular season than lose all four pre-season games but win game 1 of the regular season.

(This is 100% true. I'm not making it up.)

Detroit Lions logic. He fits right in.

Makes sense.

I had a Lions fan who, when he found out I was a Dallas fan, told me that he would rather go 0-16 then go to the playoffs and lose in the first round like the Cowboys.

Last time I looked 9 wins was better than no wins.

[Flintstones32]

Kevin Smith was quoted as saying that he'd rather win all four pre-season games and lose game 1 of the regular season than lose all four pre-season games but win game 1 of the regular season.

(This is 100% true. I'm not making it up.)

Detroit Lions logic. He fits right in.

I hadn't heard that. That is just....well wow.

But yeah...10 wins definitely. :downspin:

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

The have a real shot at the magic number 26, but I don't think they'll get there.

[BUMP]

Makes sense.

I had a Lions fan who, when he found out I was a Dallas fan, told me that he would rather go 0-16 then go to the playoffs and lose in the first round like the Cowboys.

Last time I looked 9 wins was better than no wins.

It depends.

If you have a can't miss stud, like Tom Brady, coming out next year i'd much rather go 0-16

[ShoogarBear]

Tom Brady, can't-miss stud, was a sixth-round draft pick.

[J.T.]

It depends.

If you have a can't miss stud, like Tom Brady, coming out next year i'd much rather go 0-16

I bet you think the NFL has a draft lottery too, don't you?

[DarkReign]

1 down, 15 to go.

[LnGrrrR]

This thread is as relevant today as it was when it was posted in 06. Sad to say.

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

1 down, 15 to go.

Don't get ahead of yourself, DR.

First things first: Eight to tie, nine to break the the Bucs record of futility.

Oh, and the L yesterday makes them 8-57 on the road in the last 8+ years.

Roooooooooaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrr!

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

Bad click.

[manufan10]

:lol

Detroit needs a record, why not the Bucs record. It makes too much sense for it not to happen.

[LOL texans]

The have a real shot at the magic number 26, but I don't think they'll get there.

Of course they will, you've seen'em play.

[ShoogarBear]

Happiest guy in the world today . . . Matt Millen.

[Nathan Explosion]

Matthew Stafford just needs to win one, and he'll be a hero. Hell, Troy Aikman went 1-15 his first year.

Listen to Herm Edwards. "We can build on this."

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

Walsh won the only game in Aikman's rookie year.

Troy was 0-11.

[Nathan Explosion]

Walsh won the only game in Aikman's rookie year.

Troy was 0-11.

See, win one game and you're better than Troy. Then Stafford can go Herm Edwards in the locker room after a 1-15 season.

[DarkReign]

Don't get ahead of yourself, DR

First things first: Eight to tie, nine to break the the Bucs record of futility.

Jeebus...really?! Honestly, I think they win a game before then, like that matters at all.


Oh, and the L yesterday makes them 8-57 on the road in the last 8+ years.

Roooooooooaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrr!

8-57 on the road. You know, that shit actually had to happen to even be considered a realistic possibility. Thats beyond futile...

[LnGrrrR]

Here's a fun fact.

Starting QB Ratings against the Lions last year:

Matt Ryan - 137.019
Aaron Rodgers - 116.995
O'Sullivan - 123.278
Kyle Orton - 121.446
Frerotte - 82.386
Matt Schaub - 124.059
Jason Campbell - 127.380
Kyle Orton - 81.845
David Garrard - 128.416
Jake Delhomme - 85.855
Jeff Garcia - 137.500
Kerry Collins - 82.407
Tavaris Jackson - 143.75
Peyton Manning - 109.966
Drew Brees - 117.812
Aaron Rodgers - 132.190

[DarkReign]

Kyle Orton - 81.845

Cant belive that kid was ever a starter in the NFL. Getting Cutler was/is such a huge upgrade.

[whatever_gong82]

Lions lose today to the Vikings at Ford Field in Detroit, 27-13.

They now have an 0-19 streak, and are 7 games away from tying the Tampa Bay Buccaneers' record from '76-'77.

[NBA Junkie]

Here's a fun fact.

Starting QB Ratings against the Lions last year:

Matt Ryan - 137.019
Aaron Rodgers - 116.995
O'Sullivan - 123.278
Kyle Orton - 121.446
Frerotte - 82.386
Matt Schaub - 124.059
Jason Campbell - 127.380
Kyle Orton - 81.845
David Garrard - 128.416
Jake Delhomme - 85.855
Jeff Garcia - 137.500
Kerry Collins - 82.407
Tavaris Jackson - 143.75
Peyton Manning - 109.966
Drew Brees - 117.812
Aaron Rodgers - 132.190

This will be the only statistic Tarvaris Jackson is #1 in.

He's arguably the worst QB of this bunch.

[Bigzax]

you got the skins next...this could be your week!

[Pistons < Spurs]

Detroit Lions linebacker Ernie Sims has a significant shoulder injury, coach Jim Schwartz said today in a news conference.

Schwartz said there is a good chance Sims will miss some time, but the Lions don't know yet how long Sims could be out.

Sims suffered the injury Sunday when he landed awkwardly during the Lions' 27-13 loss to Minnesota.

Jordon Dizon and rookie DeAndre Levy are candidates to replace Sims. http://www.freep.com/article/20090921/SPORTS01/90921044/1319/Lions-LB-Ernie-Sims-has-significant-shoulder-injury

[DarkReign]

http://www.freep.com/article/20090921/SPORTS01/90921044/1319/Lions-LB-Ernie-Sims-has-significant-shoulder-injury

There goes our unparalleled defense...

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

Fitting that she's wearing a RW jersey. Love the tears at the end:

BroKxVMsoSU

[DarkReign]

Like the "Jerry! Jerry!" chant at the end there.

[LOL texans]

The Skins are a more talented team than the Lions, BUT the Lions will beat them and get a W.

[JamStone]

Jason Campbell
33-42
375 yards passing
88 yards rushing
3 TD passes
1 TD run
145.0 QB rating

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

No way.






Campbell doesn't run that much.

[LOL texans]

Jason Campbell
33-42
375 yards passing
88 yards rushing
3 TD passes
1 TD run
145.0 QB rating

And he still sucks.

[LOL texans]

No way.






Campbell doesn't run that much.


I expect that from you. But you will be pleasently suprised.

[JamStone]

No way.






Campbell doesn't run that much.


Fair point. Change the 88 rushing yards to 83 rushing yards.

[BlackSwordsMan]

don't lions fans have enough problems
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[ShoogarBear]

Dan Snyder and Vinnie Cerrato are massive douchebags.

Congrats, DLF and JamStone.

That is all.

[SpursPreacher]

The lions win !!!!:downspin::downspin::downspin::downspin::king: lobt2::lobt2::lobt2::lobt2::greedy

[IronMexican]

Championship


Raiders are sucking MAJOR ass

[JamStone]

What the hell just happened?!?!