Coaches Top 25 Poll - Buckeyes & Horns #1 & #2

[Mr Dio]

Week 1 USA Today Poll
=================

1. Ohio State (28) 0-0 1,487
2. Texas (11) 0-0 1,378

3. USC (1) 0-0 1,348
3. Notre Dame (9) 0-0 1,348
5. Oklahoma (13) 0-0 1,320
6. Auburn (1) 0-0 1,206
7. West Virginia 0-0 1,202
8. Florida 0-0 1,054
9. LSU 0-0 1,037
10. Florida State 0-0 874
11. Miami (FL) 0-0 839
12. California 0-0 798
13. Louisville 0-0 785
14. Georgia 0-0 784
15. Michigan 0-0 778
16. Virginia Tech 0-0 591
17. Iowa 0-0 519
18. Clemson 0-0 493
19. Penn State 0-0 406
20. Oregon 0-0 373
21. TCU 0-0 270
22. Nebraska 0-0 261
23. Tennessee 0-0 216
24. Alabama 0-0 210
25. Texas Tech 0-0 198

OTHERS RECEIVING VOTES
Arizona State 182, Boston College 87, Utah 84, Arkansas 64, South Carolina 55, Boise State 46, Wisconsin 37, UCLA 29, Georgia Tech 28, Fresno State 14, Tulsa 11, Iowa State 9, Minnesota 9, Maryland 8, Purdue 7, TEXAS AM 6, Memphis 5, Nevada 3, UTEP 3, Rutgers 2, NORTHN ILLINOIS 2, Northwestern 2, Oregon State 2, Arizona 2, Brigham Young 2, Colorado 1, Duke 1.

[Mr Dio]

At last, a poll with prudent realism.

I'd like to see some idiot actually come on here & post that the coaches of all people have it all wrong.

[degenerate_gambler]

As it should be..

[johngateswhiteley]

...compared to my top 10...not bad, imo.


1. Ohio State
2. USC
3. Florida
4. Miami
5. Auburn
6. LSU
7. West Virginia
8. Oklahoma
9. t.u.
10. California

only problem i have with coaches poll, and i am sure you already know this, is t.u. and notre dame being that high. it's crazy...and mark my words notre dame 2-2 after first four. if they are 3-1 then i will give them props, 4-0 would never ever happen.

[Mr Dio]

Might want to do your homework next time & think with your head & not with your heart.

[Brutalis]

Lsu #9 Lmao

[johngateswhiteley]

Might want to do your homework next time & think with your head & not with your heart.

...please. there is no way t.u. should be that high; interested to see what the AP reports.

[Mr Dio]

That UT is left off anyone's top 5 is simply moronic.

[msufan420]

Texas is definately top 5....not number 2, but top 5 with their returning starters at wideout and rb's...not to mention their defense will be bad ass yet again. However, I'm not sold on hanging their fate on either freshman QB...In my opinion, Texas either finishes up in the bottom half of the top 10 or just on the outside.

[Mr Dio]

Texas is definately top 5....not number 2, but top 5 with their returning starters at wideout and rb's...not to mention their defense will be bad ass yet again. However, I'm not sold on hanging their fate on either freshman QB...In my opinion, Texas either finishes up in the bottom half of the top 10 or just on the outside.


Finally!
A honest & realistic opinion spoken with thought from the head & not the ass.

[degenerate_gambler]

I'll bet scalpers are doing backflips over seeing tOSU and Texas being 1 & 2.

[Mr Dio]

I'll bet scalpers are doing backflips over seeing tOSU and Texas being 1 & 2.


No doubt.
I think I can say goodbye to apprx $400-$500 now for a 5-10 yard line seat.

[tlongII]

I'll bet scalpers are doing backflips over seeing tOSU and Texas being 1 & 2.

I have reserved a seat on my couch for the game.

[cecil collins]

Texas and USC will both lose at least 2 games. Neither should be in the top 3 teams.

[scott]

I think UT should be around 6-8, USC around 8-10, and now that we've been Bomar'ed OU should be around 15-20.

And who the hell gave a vote to Duke?

[NorCal510]

USC > UT beezzies

[reydawg]

USC > UT beezzies

Based on what? Nothing. You know just as little as any of the other Coaches/Pollsters at this point. So do I. So does anybody here.

The top teams play eachother so much this year, that it will all sort itself out on the field. There's hardly any point in preseason speculation.

Preseason polls are meaningless.


(except in the very rare case of an Auburn04, where the preseason order held to the last week)

[cecil collins]

I think UT should be around 6-8, USC around 8-10, and now that we've been Bomar'ed OU should be around 15-20.

And who the hell gave a vote to Duke?
Most realistic post.

[johngateswhiteley]

Based on what? Nothing. You know just as little as any of the other Coaches/Pollsters at this point. So do I. So does anybody here.

The top teams play eachother so much this year, that it will all sort itself out on the field. There's hardly any point in preseason speculation.

Preseason polls are meaningless.


(except in the very rare case of an Auburn04, where the preseason order held to the last week)


...the polls are meaningless, except if you want to win the national title. you pretty much have to be in the top 10 to win it....going from top 15 into the top two seeds is pretty much impossible nowadays. so it does matter....and having t.u. two is stupid; no qb's with any experience...not one snap. and while i don't have a huge problem with the coaches poll i will be looking forward to the AP poll, which is the grandaddy anyway.

[gtownspur]

That UT is left off anyone's top 5 is simply moronic.


If ut strictly changes to a stron run only offense, then i can see them in the top 5.

But if this is a rebuilding year with them experimenting with their Qbs, i don't think they will have a BCS berth.

[gtownspur]

Texas and USC will both lose at least 2 games. Neither should be in the top 3 teams.


Interesting,

Although for Notre dame to drop out of the Top ten, they basically have to lose 4 games.

[cecil collins]

Interesting,

Although for Notre dame to drop out of the Top ten, they basically have to lose 4 games.
True as hell. They'll make a bowl they aren't good enough to be in, and get stomped like every year.


If ut strictly changes to a stron run only offense, then i can see them in the top 5.
They will definitely be heavy run. I don't think it'll be 80 percent run or anything, but that will be the focus of the offense, at least early in the season. They will probably toy with the passing game a lot against North Texas, assuming it's not a game anymore after the first half.

[Mr Dio]

UT the past few yrs has always tried to assert the running game vs their early cupcakes. UT keeps the play calling pretty vanilla til their tougher comp.

I'd say UT finishes the season @ close to 60% run vs 40% pass.

UT will win the Big 12 South & that means the Big 12 as well which guarantees a BCS bid.

[cecil collins]

UT the past few yrs has always tried to assert the running game vs their early cupcakes. UT keeps the play calling pretty vanilla til their tougher comp.

I'd say UT finishes the season @ close to 60% run vs 40% pass.

UT will win the Big 12 South & that means the Big 12 as well which guarantees a BCS bid.
You better believe they won't worry about asserting it against NT this year. Those QB's need some experience in a game, making throws. Early on, yes they will run, but in the second half there will be some passing. I hope for something like 60-40, but expect more of a 70 percent run.

[cecil collins]

Last year, they ran 605 times and passed 336 times. Someone else can do the math, but that is pretty heavy run. Granted the QB won't presumably run as much this year, unless Sherrod Harris somehow wins the QB battle. I wish Chiles were already on the team, or I'd be rooting for him.

[Mr Dio]

You better believe they won't worry about asserting it against NT this year. Those QB's need some experience in a game, making throws. Early on, yes they will run, but in the second half there will be some passing. I hope for something like 60-40, but expect more of a 70 percent run.


The new QBs do need some experience throwing the ball.
The Buckeyes recently have had very fast DBs new or not.

[Holmes_Fans]

Not sure how you could not have UT in the top 5. Return 14 starters including 3/5 of the best offensive line in the country, the 2 who will be starting now played in everygame as well. All of next year starters except the QB played in the NC game. Could possible have the best defensive line in the country and only lost 1 LB who was hurt from the Tech game on and didn't play well.

Return 3 runningbacks who had over 300 carries, 1800 yards and 29 touchdowns between the 3 of them.

Return every receiver.

[Mr Dio]

Not sure how you could not have UT in the top 5. Return 14 starters including 3/5 of the best offensive line in the country, the 2 who will be starting now played in everygame as well. All of next year starters except the QB played in the NC game. Could possible have the best defensive line in the country and only lost 1 LB who was hurt from the Tech game on and didn't play well.

Return 3 runningbacks who had over 300 carries, 1800 yards and 29 touchdowns between the 3 of them.

Return every receiver.

Add to that JFinley who IMO is going to be awesome @ TE & by mid season Sergio Kindle has an awesome chance to be playing a large % of Def snaps.

[Holmes_Fans]

Only an aggy or this wannabe aggy whitley guy could seriously say Texas is not a top 5 team.

USC has more reasons on why they should not be top 5 then Texas does

[johngateswhiteley]

Only an aggy or this wannabe aggy whitley guy could seriously say Texas is not a top 5 team.

USC has more reasons on why they should not be top 5 then Texas does

:rolleyes ...anyway, i am not saying t.u. will not be good....far from it. they are just not a top 5 team, imo. but this is not me just picking on t.u., i don't think notre dame is a top 5 team either. and the reason USC is a top 5 team is b/c their talent is superior and they are much deeper and their current players much better, than most realize.

...but this conjecture, thankfully, will soon be at an end. we are only about 3 weeks till SC meets ARK, we will get some kind of measurement then as we will when t.u. meets ohio state in week two.

[Mr Dio]

.....the reason USC is a top 5 team is b/c their talent is superior and they are much deeper and their current players much better, than most realize.

I heard a lot of this stuff before the Rose Bowl too. :lol




...but this conjecture, thankfully, will soon be at an end. we are only about 3 weeks till SC meets ARK, we will get some kind of measurement then as we will when t.u. meets ohio state in week two.

Yeah, #1 vs #2 & #4 vs #29.
Yeah, those are 2 very equal match-ups. :rolleyes

[johngateswhiteley]

another deuche bag that can't read. i never said the matchups were equal, cock smoke. but they will serve as a barometer.

1. t.u. beats ohio state then they are probably very good. t.u. barely loses to ohio state then they are probably still pretty darn good. t.u. gets killed by ohio state...then maybe not so good. you see, stupid fuck, it serves as a barometer...

2. USC kills ark @ the bump then they are probably going to be pretty good. USC barely beats ark then jury is out and if we lose then maybe not so good...in this instance, you asinine fuck, it serves as a barometer as well...

...you teasips are all the same, you only see, hear, and read what you want.

EDIT: not that i need to say you're an idiot, again, but you are an idiot. USC is #3 according to the coaches poll.

[NoMoneyDown]

t.u.

Who's t.u.?

[degenerate_gambler]

Who's t.u.?


Simply, it's Aggsy's version of smack talk directed toward The University of Texas.

[Mr Dio]

EDIT: not that i need to say you're an idiot, again, but you are an idiot. USC is #3 according to the coaches poll.

What a fuckin' JonGayWhitey you are! :lol

Look @ the total # of points recieved by the coaches & there is a tie.
Now, look @ the # of 1st Place Votes IDIOT.
I guess you can tell things aprat, like say my cock & your mom's mouth?

[Mr Dio]

Simply, it's Aggsy's version of smack talk directed toward The University of Texas.


Or a JonGayPimpley who claims every school known to man.
What a FuckTard that JonGayWhitey is.
Pure idiot.

[degenerate_gambler]

Or a JonGayPimpley who claims every school known to man.



Yeah I noticed that. For a supposed Aggie fan, he sure sniffs the hell out of Pete Carroll's jock on a minute by minute basis.

But it's safe to say with the pathetic condition that is now aggie football, he'll ride the condom's bandwagon till the wheels fall off (or until such time comes when it's not embarrassing anymore to cheer for the aggies).

[johngateswhiteley]

What a fuckin' JonGayWhitey you are! :lol

Look @ the total # of points recieved by the coaches & there is a tie.
Now, look @ the # of 1st Place Votes IDIOT.
I guess you can tell things aprat, like say my cock & your mom's mouth?

mr. dodo,
...is that why there is a 3 next to both of their names? save yourself the trouble and don't answer that.

degenerate pole smoker,
...so i can't pull for the schools i went to? thats kind of funny, b/c i know not every one of these assholes went to t.u. and i went to both A&M and USC. guess this is a backasswards place. but, nevertheless, i think i'll stick with my boys...like i always do.

[Holmes_Fans]

...you teasips are all the same, you only see, hear, and read what you want.

EDIT: not that i need to say you're an idiot, again, but you are an idiot. USC is #3 according to the coaches poll.
LMAO! A guy from the University of Spoiled Children using the word t-sip. That's the funniest thing I have seen all week. You don't even know what it means douche bag.


Texas is superior in every position except WR and maybe QB. Neither QB's for either team have meaningful minutes.

[degenerate_gambler]

...i think i'll stick with my boys...like i always do as long as they're in the Top 10 nationally.


there...fixed it for ya, gravy trainer.

[Mr Dio]

LMAO! A guy from the University of Spoiled Children using the word t-sip. That's the funniest thing I have seen all week. You don't even know what it means douche bag.


Texas is superior in every position except WR and maybe QB. Neither QB's for either team have meaningful minutes.


Maybe JonGayPimply needs to get on a bike with Gaytown's Mom so they can ride a permanent wheelie off into the sunset. Lord knows that big cunt could use a man after doing time the past 12yrs.

[Mr Dio]

Week 1 USA Today Poll
=================

1. Ohio State (28) 0-0 1,487
2. Texas (11) 0-0 1,378

3. USC (1) 0-0 1,348
3. Notre Dame (9) 0-0 1,348
5. Oklahoma (13) 0-0 1,320

Colorado 1, Duke 1.

JonGayPimply
Anyone with common sense can see that ND has more 1st place votes you backwoods TARD.

[johngateswhiteley]

LMAO! A guy from the University of Spoiled Children using the word t-sip. That's the funniest thing I have seen all week. You don't even know what it means douche bag.


Texas is superior in every position except WR and maybe QB. Neither QB's for either team have meaningful minutes.

right, keep telling yourself that.

and dodo, you just made my argument...you're like a baby degenerate pole smoker...just learning.

[Mr Dio]

LMAO! A guy from the University of Spoiled Children using the word t-sip. That's the funniest thing I have seen all week. You don't even know what it means douche bag.


Texas is superior in every position except WR and maybe QB. Neither QB's for either team have meaningful minutes.


By posting this you're going to put the JonGayW kid in denial Holmes Fan! :lol

[Mr Dio]

right, keep telling yourself that.

and dodo, you just made my argument...you're like a baby degenerate pole smoker...just learning.


Too late! :lol

[Holmes_Fans]

I will keep telling myself that

Position - Team with advantage
QB - USC, but Booty has as many meaningful minutes as McCoy did running scout team.
RB - Texas
WR - USC (If Dwayne Jarret is ruled eligable, if he doesn't play this goes to Texas to)
TE - Tied (Both teams lost starters)
OL - Texas (Return 3 of 5 of the best in the country, 2 new starters saw plenty of time)
DL - Texas
LB - Texas
DB - Texas (Losing both Tings hurts.)

PR - Texas (USC didn't get anybetter here losing an average returner in Bush.)
KR - Texas (See above)

K - USC
P - Not sure

[johngateswhiteley]

I will keep telling myself that

Position - Team with advantage
QB - USC, but Booty has as many meaningful minutes as McCoy did running scout team.
RB - Texas
WR - USC (If Dwayne Jarret is ruled eligable, if he doesn't play this goes to Texas to)
TE - Tied (Both teams lost starters)
OL - Texas (Return 3 of 5 of the best in the country, 2 new starters saw plenty of time)
DL - Texas
LB - Texas
DB - Texas (Losing both Tings hurts.)

PR - Texas (USC didn't get anybetter here losing an average returner in Bush.)
KR - Texas (See above)

K - USC
P - Not sure


...you have just shown me you know absolutely nothing about USC football. here is my unbiased opinion:

QB - Booty and it is not even close
RB - t.u. has good stable of backs but losing taylor makes this pretty close
WR - USC has the best corps in the nation even w/out jarrett (and he is only out 1 game)
TE - USC (i'll take Fred Davis over anybody t.u. has)
OL - t.u.
DL - USC
LB - USC
DB - t.u.
PR - t.u.
KR - t.u.

K - USC
P - t.u.

...this is all i am going to say, i won't get in an argument over this. this is my BEST attempt to be unbiased and if you disagree, which i am sure you will...take a look around at what other people think (outside this board) and i think you'll find these seem to be the census. and if not...well, most people are stupid. USC has the better personel.

[LaMarcus Bryant]

wow you sure did anger me so much by saying t.u. that many times, im sure you'll be voting conservative in the fall, too

BTW, johnsoonerwhitley obviously doesn't know who t.u. has at Defensive Tackle this year...but i'll let one cat out of the bag:


FRANK 'HEMANN' OKAM


'nuff said

[Holmes_Fans]

Plus 2 other returning starters from last year.

[LaMarcus Bryant]

Texas will be fielding the best defense in the ncaa: deepest linebacker core and most talented defensive back core. Dude, we have sergio fucking kindle as back up back up back up linebacker....we're gonna have the best D this league has seen in a while.

Just a shame that OU is on a nebraska-esque decline. I wanted to play them at full strength this year to compare this year's D and O with past years.

[Beer is Good]

...you have just shown me you know absolutely nothing about USC football. here is my unbiased opinion:

QB - Booty and it is not even close
RB - t.u. has good stable of backs but losing taylor makes this pretty close
WR - USC has the best corps in the nation even w/out jarrett (and he is only out 1 game)
TE - USC (i'll take Fred Davis over anybody t.u. has)
OL - t.u.
DL - USC
LB - USC
DB - t.u.
PR - t.u.
KR - t.u.

K - USC
P - t.u.

.
:lmao :lmao :lmao This guy actually takes USC's LB and DL over possibly the best in the country. I like your resolve, but that's crazy. Fred Davis at TE is negligible... Jermichael Finley can stack up against him so TE is probably a push. Even so, OL is just about the most important position in football because a great OL makes a good QB great while a suspect OL makes a great QB average at best. I think USC's OL is suspect. ALSO, Booty is not going to be what you think he will. Just watch and see... you overrate that boy tremendously.

[LaMarcus Bryant]

Jermichael Finley is going to be one of the big 12 breakout players this year.

[johngateswhiteley]

:lmao :lmao :lmao This guy actually takes USC's LB and DL over possibly the best in the country. I like your resolve, but that's crazy. Fred Davis at TE is negligible... Jermichael Finley can stack up against him so TE is probably a push. Even so, OL is just about the most important position in football because a great OL makes a good QB great while a suspect OL makes a great QB average at best. I think USC's OL is suspect. ALSO, Booty is not going to be what you think he will. Just watch and see... you overrate that boy tremendously.

...t.u.'s LBs and DL are not even the best in the big 12. you guys are showing me that you are t.u. homers and that you have no grasp of CFB in general. Nebraska has a better DL and LBs than t.u., go look at the personel and then come back and talk to me. OU probably has the second best in those areas and then t.u.. you can call me whatever you want, but that won't strengthen your argument.

even though t.u. has a better OL in my estimation, it is not by a lot and USC's is very good. plenty good enough for Booty to hit the best WRs in the country.

[reydawg]

Why do you call them "t.u." ? I thought that was an aggie thing.

[reydawg]

that makes sense...just wondering

I didn't want a&m to sue 'sc for stealing one of their "traditions". I've heard that ags are known to do that. ;)

[Holmes_Fans]

Why do you call them "t.u." ? I thought that was an aggie thing.
He is an aggy and a trojan. He also throws the word 't-sip' around, although he probably doesn't even know what it means or he wouldn't say is considering he went to the University of Spoiled Children.

Next thing this guy is gonna say is that Stephen McGee will be better than VY in the next 2 years.

[johngateswhiteley]

He is an aggy and a trojan. He also throws the word 't-sip' around, although he probably doesn't even know what it means or he wouldn't say is considering he went to the University of Spoiled Children.

Next thing this guy is gonna say is that Stephen McGee will be better than VY in the next 2 years.

1. have you ever been to USC?
2. i know all the A&M traditions
3. USC scene (students) is nothing like some of the bitches up in austin. you're confused with all the so called USC fans in hollywood and the media

...notice in #3 i said some. there are a lot of students that i think are awesome and some that are great friends. but to compare them to USCs student body is just stupid. different kind of animal...

[Beer is Good]

...t.u.'s LBs and DL are not even the best in the big 12. you guys are showing me that you are t.u. homers and that you have no grasp of CFB in general. Nebraska has a better DL and LBs than t.u., go look at the personel and then come back and talk to me. OU probably has the second best in those areas and then t.u.. you can call me whatever you want, but that won't strengthen your argument.

even though t.u. has a better OL in my estimation, it is not by a lot and USC's is very good. plenty good enough for Booty to hit the best WRs in the country.
:lol - I'll take THE University of Texas's LB and DL over any in the Big XII hands down due to pure depth and experience. They don't have the best individual LB or DL in the country, but as a whole unit they are excellent. Booty is going to struggle early then come on late, but not enough to live up to expectations. You overrate him.

[johngateswhiteley]

:lol - I'll take THE University of Texas's LB and DL over any in the Big XII hands down due to pure depth and experience. They don't have the best individual LB or DL in the country, but as a whole unit they are excellent. Booty is going to struggle early then come on late, but not enough to live up to expectations. You overrate him.

...once again you're not showing me much. nebraska has the best depth at those positions and in the DL by FAR.

[Holmes_Fans]

Sorry buddy. You are a poor little aggy, you have shown your anti-longhorn in every post you make. C'mon say it now, you are one of those aggys who thinks Stephen McGee will win the heisman in the next few years.

Sorry buddy, even though USC will have average RBs early in the season they still still pimp slap nebraska around the field with the running game.

[Mr Dio]

:lol - I'll take THE University of Texas's LB and DL over any in the Big XII hands down due to pure depth and experience. They don't have the best individual LB or DL in the country, but as a whole unit they are excellent. Booty is going to struggle early then come on late, but not enough to live up to expectations. You overrate him.


Common sense rises again.
Why can't the idiot that claims 15 different schools see this? :lol

[Mr Dio]

Sorry buddy. You are a poor little aggy, you have shown your anti-longhorn in every post you make. C'mon say it now, you are one of those aggys who thinks Stephen McGee will win the heisman in the next few years.



:lol

[johngateswhiteley]

...its like reading kindergarten letters from you guys.

[Holmes_Fans]

Im sorry I speak the truth. You have given 0 credit to Texas for anything, sorry poor little aggy.

[Mr Dio]

Im sorry I speak the truth. You have given 0 credit to Texas for anything, sorry poor little aggy.

:lol
JonGayWhiney pimp slapped like a bitch.

[gtownspur]

:lol - I'll take THE University of Texas's LB and DL over any in the Big XII hands down due to pure depth and experience. They don't have the best individual LB or DL in the country, but as a whole unit they are excellent. Booty is going to struggle early then come on late, but not enough to live up to expectations. You overrate him.


oklahoma is far ahead of ut in that department. Although UT does have the best DB core with Okla, and CU trailing behind them.

[Mr Dio]

UT & the sooners do have very close DL, LB & DB in terms of quality.
The 3rd best in the Big 12 in those Def units is Neb.
The buffs are a close 4th in LB/DB units BUT, are quite a ways from the big 3 in terms of DL.

[Beer is Good]

oklahoma is far ahead of ut in that department. Although UT does have the best DB core with Okla, and CU trailing behind them.
They aren't far ahead. They are very close, but UT's LB and DL have National Championship experience. That is where the edge is. They've been all the way and they know what it takes.

[johngateswhiteley]

They aren't far ahead. They are very close, but UT's LB and DL have National Championship experience. That is where the edge is. They've been all the way and they know what it takes.


...better is better. the Spurs experience didn't get them past the Mavs and experience does not make t.u.'s better than OU's and Nebraska's.

[Holmes_Fans]

But they are. USC could of done nothing but run the ball and they would blown out Nebraska. Bush was faster than any player on Nebraskas team, not the case against Texas.

[Mr Dio]

...better is better. the Spurs experience didn't get them past the Mavs and experience does not make t.u.'s better than OU's and Nebraska's.


Are you really that much of a dumbass?
You are saying that experince has no bearing whatsoever on the outcome of a game? :lol

[Holmes_Fans]

Experience is what led the mavs to beating the spurs. They had more expeirence playing a fast paced offense which is what the entire series was. Only an aggy could be this stupid.

[Mr Dio]

Experience is what led the mavs to beating the spurs. They had more expeirence playing a fast paced offense which is what the entire series was. Only an aggy could be this stupid.

:lol

[MissAllThat]

I'll bet scalpers are doing backflips over seeing tOSU and Texas being 1 & 2.

Ha someone mentioned to me how much I could get for my 1st row ticket the other day and I have to say I definitely thought about selling it. Then I came back to reality half a second later. I couldn't ever actually sell my front row tickets.

[Mr Dio]

Ha someone mentioned to me how much I could get for my 1st row ticket the other day and I have to say I definitely thought about selling it. Then I came back to reality half a second later. I couldn't ever actually sell my front row tickets.


Do you personally know of any other private parties (Non Business) that will sell a pair, 3, 4, etc???

[MissAllThat]

Do you personally know of any other private parties (Non Business) that will sell a pair, 3, 4, etc???

No, I don't know anyone that would actually sell their tickets. I only considered it because it was a ridiculous amount. If I find someone I'll let you know.

[gtownspur]

Experience is what led the mavs to beating the spurs. They had more expeirence playing a fast paced offense which is what the entire series was. Only an aggy could be this stupid.


Well than in that same sense, USC has had as much experience playing their own style of football as UT if you want to make this about whose more experienced playing their own styles. Which is a redundant thought and pointless.

[gtownspur]

But they are. USC could of done nothing but run the ball and they would blown out Nebraska. Bush was faster than any player on Nebraskas team, not the case against Texas.


Ummm.... You have a half point there, only that many other schools have fast people on their teams. BUSh is not the fastest player in college football. It's the blocking schemes, and runner's intuition that lead to a break away touchdown run for 80 yds.

And Btw, how do you know that nebraska doesn't have fast backs and safeties, do you have their 40's recorded?

[scott]

Ummm.... You have a half point there, only that many other schools have fast people on their teams. BUSh is not the fastest player in college football. It's the blocking schemes, and runner's intuition that lead to a break away touchdown run for 80 yds.

And Btw, how do you know that nebraska doesn't have fast backs and safeties, do you have their 40's recorded?

Didn't Fabian Washington go to Nebraksa? 4.25 is purdy fast.

[Holmes_Fans]

Ummm.... You have a half point there, only that many other schools have fast people on their teams. BUSh is not the fastest player in college football. It's the blocking schemes, and runner's intuition that lead to a break away touchdown run for 80 yds.

And Btw, how do you know that nebraska doesn't have fast backs and safeties, do you have their 40's recorded?
In no way shape or form could nebraska have contained Reggie Bush like Texas did. Bush would of been beating them to the outside every play, some the couldn't do against Texas.

[johngateswhiteley]

In no way shape or form could nebraska have contained Reggie Bush like Texas did. Bush would of been beating them to the outside every play, some the couldn't do against Texas.

...i don't call 82 yards rushing and 95 yards receiving a containment. Bush did not touch the ball that much and had almost 180 yards on a total of 19 touches.

however, nebraska could have done a similar job if there defense was set-up to slow down Bush as was t.u.'s. where NEB would have gotten killed is in the air...and t.u. had outstanding db's as will they this year as well.

[gtownspur]

...i don't call 82 yards rushing and 95 yards receiving a containment. Bush did not touch the ball that much and had almost 180 yards on a total of 19 touches.

however, nebraska could have done a similar job if there defense was set-up to slow down Bush as was t.u.'s. where NEB would have gotten killed is in the air...and t.u. had outstanding db's as will they this year as well.


This is the part where ironically they tell you of how much you hate UT and how you can't give them a compliment. :lol

[Holmes_Fans]

25 yards receiving on a pass with with the defense dropped back and on 36 yard run. Pretty bad night for Gale Sayers.


And get off his nuts g-town. I think he has been saying all along Texas had one of the best secondarys, he isn't that big of a moron to try and say USC had a better secondary than Texas.

[mookie2001]

gates does make sense though, usc was so good, they didnt even have to "win" in the traditional sense, like leinart said after the game, theyre still a better team

[johngateswhiteley]

25 yards receiving on a pass with with the defense dropped back and on 36 yard run. Pretty bad night for Gale Sayers.


And get off his nuts g-town. I think he has been saying all along Texas had one of the best secondarys, he isn't that big of a moron to try and say USC had a better secondary than Texas.

...the whole defense was set up to stop Bush. this should not even be a conversation.

[Holmes_Fans]

How do you know that though? Wasn't USC's defense set up by the great Pete Carrol to stop VY?

[Mr Dio]

25 yards receiving on a pass with with the defense dropped back and on 36 yard run. Pretty bad night for Gale Sayers.


And get off his nuts g-town. I think he has been saying all along Texas had one of the best secondarys, he isn't that big of a moron to try and say USC had a better secondary than Texas.


Good Luck in having that happen! :lol

Man SC had the most awesome team ever....................that lost a National Championship game.
There, a compliment for SC.
Like I've said before, true SC fans don't need to jump on any ag phrase because TRUE Trojan fans have spines & stick with their team.

[Mr Dio]

How do you know that though? Wasn't USC's defense set up by the great Pete Carrol to stop VY?


You mean Pete Carroll the Greatest Coach ever that had the Greatest team ever.................That lost a National Championship game.

[johngateswhiteley]

How do you know that though? Wasn't USC's defense set up by the great Pete Carrol to stop VY?

...i know b/c thats all the t.u. coaches talked about leading up to the game. and you could actually see the linebackers mimic Bush when he was in the game. thats how i know, its right there in front of you.

USCs defense was suppose to stop vy...they didn't. but it is much harder to stop a great mobile QB than a RB in CFB. vy gets a lot more touches.

Rose Bowl 2006:

vy: 59 touches = 467 yards 7.915 ypt
Bush: 19 touches = 177 yards 9.315 ypt


anyway, maybe they should have given the ball to Bush more. going into the game i was hoping for 25-30 touches...but White hada wonderful game and the receivers were doing pretty well. so, whatever...

[Mr Dio]

Rose Bowl 2006:

vy: 59 touches = 467 yards 7.915 ypt
Bush: 19 touches = 177 yards 9.315 ypt
UT 41 - SC 38




anyway, maybe they should have given the ball to Bush more. going into the game i was hoping for 25-30 touches...but White hada wonderful game and the receivers were doing pretty well. so, whatever...




Now where are those MORONS that say Mack can't coach?
He was smart enough to have the COMMON SENSE to have VY as his main weapon & USE VY.

Doesn't a QB touch the ball on about every snap on offense unless it is a direct snap to another player besides the QB? :lol

[MissAllThat]

...i know b/c thats all the t.u. coaches talked about leading up to the game. and you could actually see the linebackers mimic Bush when he was in the game. thats how i know, its right there in front of you.

USCs defense was suppose to stop vy...they didn't. but it is much harder to stop a great mobile QB than a RB in CFB. vy gets a lot more touches.

Rose Bowl 2006:

vy: 59 touches = 467 yards 7.915 ypt
Bush: 19 touches = 177 yards 9.315 ypt


anyway, maybe they should have given the ball to Bush more. going into the game i was hoping for 25-30 touches...but White hada wonderful game and the receivers were doing pretty well. so, whatever...

You do realize that the reason Bush didn't get that many touches was because the Texas D was doing a good job of stopping him and therefore leaving Mr. White unattended right? And its VY got a lot more touches. Not gets. He won't be getting any in a Texas uniform this year.

[johngateswhiteley]

You do realize that the reason Bush didn't get that many touches was because the Texas D was doing a good job of stopping him and therefore leaving Mr. White unattended right? And its VY got a lot more touches. Not gets. He won't be getting any in a Texas uniform this year.

...you are an idiot. you don't know what you are talking about and you are correcting me on proper grammar when i used it correctly in that context. goodnight, stupid.

[Mr Dio]

...you are an idiot. you don't know what you are talking about and you are correcting me on proper grammar when i used it correctly in that context. goodnight, stupid.


Talk about not staying on subject.
C'mon moron.............if you preach it live it or STFU & stop crying like a little bitch with panties twisted up in ya! :lol

[MissAllThat]

...you are an idiot. you don't know what you are talking about and you are correcting me on proper grammar when i used it correctly in that context. goodnight, stupid.

Good argument there buddy. You sure proved me wrong on my point. I guess Reggie did have a great game. That lateral was the highlight of it, and he should have won the MVP of the game for that. :rolleyes

[gtownspur]

I think this point is moot.

To stop a great RB, you only need to focus on the run.

To stop a scramblin Qb, you need alot of sophisticated defenses. You can't blitz cuz he'll run the option, you just have to play tight coverage and have at least one player spying the qb.

The Quarter back position is just harder to contain. He controls the ball. In this case, if USC outcoached MAc BRown, Vince young could just scramble out of the situation. No bitching here. USC would do the same.

Now on to this year.

Texas and USC are neck and neck. Championships aren't won on paper. THere's an old saying that goes, "A fool learns from his mistakes, a wiseman learns from others."

You would think that USC's mistake of thinking they deserved the title last year would of taught you horns fan's a lesson.

To come in here and bitch about why you're not rated number one is silly.

Newsflash*** No one in Longhorn football is complaining about these silly polls and Vegas odds. Not even Mac Brown. Take your own words and sac up.

[johngateswhiteley]

You do realize that the reason Bush didn't get that many touches was because the Texas D was doing a good job of stopping him and therefore leaving Mr. White unattended right?

...its posts like these that make me wonder if some of you even watched the game or remember it correctly. i think the win has your mind clouded.

1. 177 yards on 19 touches is not stopping Bush on defense, no matter how you slice it. Bush had a good game

2. umm, White was never left unattended...wth are you talking about?

3. part of the reason Bush did not get more carries, and no it is not b/c of the t.u. defense, is b/c they had other players like White, Smith, Jarrett, and Byrd

[Holmes_Fans]

You obviously didn't watch the game either. He had 37 yards on a play when Texas was dropped 30 yards back, than the one 26 yard run.

So without that run, he had 56 yards on 12 carries and without the gimme 37 yard pass he only had 58 yard receiving.

Sorry, Reggie Bush was shutdown in the rosebowl. He could never get around the corner like he was against the fresno states.

[johngateswhiteley]

You obviously didn't watch the game either. He had 37 yards on a play when Texas was dropped 30 yards back, than the one 26 yard run.

So without that run, he had 56 yards on 12 carries and without the gimme 37 yard pass he only had 58 yard receiving.

Sorry, Reggie Bush was shutdown in the rosebowl. He could never get around the corner like he was against the fresno states.

...you cannot take away any yards, moron. did they happen during the game? yes. was Bush's yards critical to getting the Trojans almost into field goal range? yes. was all they needed a field goal to tie the game? yes.

your point is stupid and irrelevant. hmm, lets take away vy's 59 touches...well what do you know, he didn't do anything if you take away his big plays. mind you Bush only touched the ball 19 times to vy's 59 (40 throwing 19 running).

[degenerate_gambler]

...you cannot take away any yards, moron. did they happen during the game? yes. was Bush's yards critical to getting the Trojans almost into field goal range? yes. was all they needed a field goal to tie the game? yes.


Damn, you are part aggsy aren't ya, kid? The Rose Bowl was a moral victory for Southern Cal the same way 40-29 was for aggiefan.

"...golly gee, we almost did it!!!...."

[Holmes_Fans]

...you cannot take away any yards, moron. did they happen during the game? yes. was Bush's yards critical to getting the Trojans almost into field goal range? yes. was all they needed a field goal to tie the game? yes.

your point is stupid and irrelevant. hmm, lets take away vy's 59 touches...well what do you know, he didn't do anything if you take away his big plays. mind you Bush only touched the ball 19 times to vy's 59 (40 throwing 19 running).
If we were comparing who had the most yards then I couldn't, but when you say the Texas in no way shape or form shut him down because he had 1 long run and 1 gimme pass thats just retarded.

Did you not watch the game? Not once did bush get to the oustide like he did all season against crap defenses. Texas' defense was to fast for him to bounce to the outside.

He was shutdown

[kskonn]

...its posts like these that make me wonder if some of you even watched the game or remember it correctly. i think the win has your mind clouded.

1. 177 yards on 19 touches is not stopping Bush on defense, no matter how you slice it. Bush had a good game

2. umm, White was never left unattended...wth are you talking about?

3. part of the reason Bush did not get more carries, and no it is not b/c of the t.u. defense, is b/c they had other players like White, Smith, Jarrett, and Byrd


well based on how other teams did against Bush I would say that they contained him pretty well. The only other team that year that did as well was notre dame, and yes they focused most of their attention on Bush as well. Maybe that is why mac did what he did, the only other team that almost beat USC focused on stopping bush and let the rest of the team try to beat them.

The only other way to defend USC is to keep their offense off the field, which UT did a decent job of with some lengthy drives in the second half.

[Mr Dio]

...its posts like these that make me wonder if some of you even watched the game or remember it correctly. i think the win has your mind clouded.

1. 177 yards on 19 touches is not stopping Bush on defense, no matter how you slice it. Bush had a good game

2. umm, White was never left unattended...wth are you talking about?

3. part of the reason Bush did not get more carries, and no it is not b/c of the t.u. defense, is b/c they had other players like White, Smith, Jarrett, and Byrd


Wrong thread.....Nice try. :rolleyes
Can a moron try & stay on subject?

OSU #1
UT #2
End of story. Stop whining about it.
Too bad you don't get a vote in the poll. :lol

Wron

[MissAllThat]

...its posts like these that make me wonder if some of you even watched the game or remember it correctly. i think the win has your mind clouded.

1. 177 yards on 19 touches is not stopping Bush on defense, no matter how you slice it. Bush had a good game

2. umm, White was never left unattended...wth are you talking about?

3. part of the reason Bush did not get more carries, and no it is not b/c of the t.u. defense, is b/c they had other players like White, Smith, Jarrett, and Byrd

I was at the game, so I'm pretty sure I saw what was happening as it happened instead of on delay on tv. In terms of rushing (which is what Mr. Bush is a monster at), the Texas D pretty much stopped him. They had virtually no answer for LenDale though. I don't know what is hard to understand about that. Thats what happened. I saw it live, in person. Maybe they showed something different on tv?

[johngateswhiteley]

Damn, you are part aggsy aren't ya, kid? The Rose Bowl was a moral victory for Southern Cal the same way 40-29 was for aggiefan.

"...golly gee, we almost did it!!!...."

umm, there are no moral victories for USC. we have 11 titles...can you count that high?

[johngateswhiteley]

I was at the game, so I'm pretty sure I saw what was happening as it happened instead of on delay on tv. In terms of rushing (which is what Mr. Bush is a monster at), the Texas D pretty much stopped him. They had virtually no answer for LenDale though. I don't know what is hard to understand about that. Thats what happened. I saw it live, in person. Maybe they showed something different on tv?

...funny, if i told you i was there as well...would you think i was lying?

[Mr Dio]

...funny, if i told you i was there as well...would you think i was lying?


Well, seeing as how much fantasy you post in reagrds to SC yeah, I'd think it untrue. Maybe it is true, who cares? :rolleyes

Ohio St #1
Texas #2

Suck it bitch!! :lol

[Beer is Good]

Sept. 2nd. Can't wait.