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picnroll
08-21-2006, 09:40 AM
Assuming nither Diaw or Josh Howard signed this year but tested the market next year as a restricted free agent, who would you go after given equal deals?

TDMVPDPOY
08-21-2006, 09:43 AM
howard of course, WAKE FOREST FTW, then go out sign CP3 or trade tp for him.

spurs_fan_in_exile
08-21-2006, 09:55 AM
Shit, I think I accidentally voted for Diaw. I would say Howard. I question Diaw's defensive skills, and Bobo's stats are from an insanely up tempo game, so I wouldn't expect him to produce like that here without a dominant distributor like Nash. Plus, fuck Mark Cuban.

confined
08-21-2006, 10:55 AM
same here ...ive watched the frace vs argentina game the other day and to be honest with u, diaw makes a good play once in a while but outside that i wasnt impressed...ill take howard

JamStone
08-21-2006, 11:03 AM
Before opening the thread, I thought it was between Boris Diaw and DWIGHT Howard.

:lol

SpursWillOwn
08-21-2006, 11:07 AM
yea shit and i voted howard thinking that it's dwight

picnroll
08-21-2006, 11:08 AM
2006 Playoffs

Diaw - 18.7 PPG; 5.2 Assists; 6.7 Rebounds; 1.1 Blocks; 53% FG%
Howard - 16.7 PPG; 1.4 Assists; 7.4 Rebounds; .6 Blocks; 45% FG%

cheguevara
08-21-2006, 11:13 AM
shit i voted wrong too. I thought it was Dwight. Of course I'd sign Diaw

Bruno
08-21-2006, 11:49 AM
Diaw : more talented and more upside.

monosylab1k
08-21-2006, 01:48 PM
did u see him play in the france game the other day? he isn't a product of nash or the style. he can flat out play.

there are dime a dozen small forwards in the game. But a power-point-guard who can nearly give you a triple-double a game? that is rare.

give me diaw beside duncan thank you

any dipshit can have one good year in the NBA...let's see diaw keep it going...if he's the real deal, then yeah diaw over howard...for now i'll take howard tho.

monosylab1k
08-21-2006, 02:15 PM
what has howard done that makes you pick him?

he hasn't proved himself

a decent rookie year and two solid years after that. each year he's made significant improvement.

diaw's sucked ass for two seasons and had one decent year. the NBA's littered with guys who had one good year.

i'd say in three years howard's shown alot more than diaw thus far.

ShoogarBear
08-21-2006, 02:33 PM
Before opening the thread, I thought it was between Boris Diaw and DWIGHT Howard.

:lol
I thought it was Diaw and Moe Howard.

mavs>spurs2
08-21-2006, 02:37 PM
Howard has a more rounded game. His defense is much better, and he's a better rebounder even though he plays the 3 position and Diaw played PF for much of last season. Plus Diaw's stats are boosted from an up-tempo style of play and having Steve Nash to distribute the ball. With that being said, they are both good players that will only improve and if I was a coach i wouldn't mind having either on my team.

picnroll
08-21-2006, 02:50 PM
Howard more rounded:? How many triple doubles did Howard have last year?

mavs>spurs2
08-21-2006, 03:01 PM
Howard has a more rounded game. His defense is much better, and he's a better rebounder even though he plays the 3 position and Diaw played PF for much of last season. Plus Diaw's stats are boosted from an up-tempo style of play and having Steve Nash to distribute the ball. With that being said, they are both good players that will only improve and if I was a coach i wouldn't mind having either on my team.

I take that back. I forgot how great of a passer Diaw was for a big man. Although howards 3pt shooting was 43% as opposed to Diaws 27% :spless:All in all i think they are about as equal as you can get.

Bruno
08-21-2006, 03:30 PM
I like when people judge players only by looking at their stats. The fact that you have forgot that Diaw was a great passer is a proof that you don't know him very well. And BTW, Howard's defense isn't way better than Diaw's defense : they are both good but not great defenders.

gus
08-21-2006, 03:41 PM
Nocioni ate Diaw in Argentina France.-

GUs

mavs>spurs2
08-21-2006, 04:31 PM
I like when people judge players only by looking at their stats. The fact that you have forgot that Diaw was a great passer is a proof that you don't know him very well. And BTW, Howard's defense isn't way better than Diaw's defense : they are both good but not great defenders.

I wasn't judging them only by their stats. I base most of what I said about Diaw off of what I saw in the Western Conference Finals. Other than the playoffs, I haven't seen very much of Diaw. But i did see enough to know that his defense isn't that great.

shaggy17
08-21-2006, 04:41 PM
I will take Diaw. Dont want a Chris Webber wannabe calling timeouts at the wrong time :lol

NuGGeTs-FaN
08-21-2006, 04:43 PM
poll this time next year will be Diaw vs Diawara :smokin

ShoogarBear
08-21-2006, 04:50 PM
I will take Diaw. Dont want a Chris Webber wannabe calling timeouts at the wrong time :lol

owwwww-wwwwww! :lol

Bruno
08-21-2006, 05:02 PM
I wasn't judging them only by their stats. I base most of what I said about Diaw off of what I saw in the Western Conference Finals. Other than the playoffs, I haven't seen very much of Diaw. But i did see enough to know that his defense isn't that great.

Diaw has mainly defended on Diop during the WCF, that's difficult to judge Diaw's defense after that.
You find that Diaw's defense isn't that great but you can't say that Howard is a great defender. His team defense is quite good but his man 2 man defense is average. If Mavs have signed some defensive specialist (Christie, Griffin and Buckner), there is a reason. To me, Howard's defense isn't better than Diaw's one.

atxrocker
08-21-2006, 05:20 PM
I would take Diaw. and I agree with Bruno, more talent and upside.

KFRebel
08-21-2006, 07:55 PM
I went in and thought it was DWIGHT Howard (duh ofcourse Dwight over Boris). I'm gonna pick Diaw.

Danny
08-21-2006, 10:03 PM
Someone mentioned Diaw's 3-pt shooting %. Yeah, it was low because he came to Phoenix with awful mechanics and early in the season, he wouldn't shoot in games. He fixed his mechanics over the course of the season, that's why you saw him knocking down those J's from the top of the key in the playoffs. His range is expected to stretch out to the 3 point line this year. I wouldn't be surprised if he becomes a better 3 pt shooter than Howard a few years down the road.

kobe_bryant
08-22-2006, 02:09 PM
Before opening the thread, I thought it was between Boris Diaw and DWIGHT Howard.

:lol

you mean this howard?
http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/thumb/7/78/220px-Kobedunks.jpg

http://playerbasketball.skyblog.com/pics/98031395_small.jpg