Alcohol Good, Pot bad

[Nbadan]

People who consume alcohol earn significantly more at their jobs than non-drinkers, according to a US study that highlighted "social capital" gained from drinking.

The study published in the Journal of Labor Research Thursday concluded that drinkers earn 10 to 14 percent more than teetotalers, and that men who drink socially bring home an additional seven percent in pay.

"Social drinking builds social capital," said Edward Stringham, an economics professor at San Jose State University and co-author of the study with fellow researcher Bethany Peters.

"Social drinkers are out networking, building relationships, and adding contacts to their BlackBerries that result in bigger paychecks."

...

"Drinkers typically tend to be more social than abstainers."

Link (http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/09/14/060914140645.wl9uakm4.html)

The more alcohol you drink the more you earn, by that kinda logic we ought to have a least a few millionaires on this forum.

:drunk

[valluco]

Yeah, but they probably spend the extra cash on booze.

[sickdsm]

Holt, Griffen, Koren Robinson..........

[smeagol]

Grown ups getting drunk is pathetic.

[BigZak]

Grown ups getting drunk is pathetic.


well they aren't really grown ups then are they...

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Oh man... so network building must involve alcohol?

Actually, in Japan that's very true - most business is done at enkais, after hours drinking parties with colleagues. The Japanese find it impossible to actually state their opinion or make a decision in a work context (they are strident avoiders of any form of "conflict"), unless under the influence of alcohol. And yes, I'm serious, I worked in Japan for two years. Want to get something done, wait until everyone's drunk at the enkai and bring it up. If it's a matter of contention it may end in a brawl* though... :lmao

*the type where a lot of drunken stumbling and slapping occurs and no-one gets hurt.

Also note this part of the article:

"The authors acknowledged their study, funded by the Reason Foundation, a libertarian think tank, contradicted research released in 2000 by the Harvard School of Public Health."

I'll go with Harvard on this one.

In other news, here's the sourcewatch lowdown on the Reason Foundation:

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Reason_Foundation

[Slomo]

Interesting, but in no way shocking.

I can atest that socializing with business partners in south/east Europe always involves alcohol. In some countries even refusing an offered cigarette will raise eyebrows.

[BIG IRISH]

I agree Slomo
Bitte Ein Bit :drunk

[DarkReign]

Grown ups getting drunk is pathetic.

What the fuck? Are you serious?

[johnsmith]

well they aren't really grown ups then are they...


Oh dear lord.........SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU JACKASS........

[MannyIsGod]

Grown ups getting drunk is pathetic.So if I want to get drunk on the weekend I'm pathetic? Heh. What does getting high make me?

[smeagol]

What does getting high make me?

An idiot.

[DarkReign]

An idiot.

:lmao

Youre a judgemental prick. Mind your own damn business.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Grown ups getting drunk is pathetic.

Well I guess I'm a pathetic person then. A rich pathetic one :drunk :bling

[clambake]

He might have his own damn business if he drank.

[johnsmith]

An idiot.

Seriously......shut the fuck up.

[smeagol]

:lmao

Youre a judgemental prick. Mind your own damn business.

Manny asked a question and I answered.

Next time somebody asks a question, i'll ask for your permission to answer, ok?

[smeagol]

Seriously......shut the fuck up.
Why? Because I think it's stupid to get high?

[valluco]

:drunk :sombrero: It's Friday! Time to act like a pathetic idiot.

[johnsmith]

Why? Because I think it's stupid to get high?

No because you actually said "grown-ups getting drunk is pathetic"........seriously, shut the fuck up........

[johnsmith]

:lmao
:drunk :sombrero: It's Friday! Time to act like a pathetic idiot.


:lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao

[MannyIsGod]

Why? Because I think it's stupid to get high?Whats stupid about getting high?

[johnsmith]

Whats stupid about getting high?


Furthermore, what the fuck do you care if people get high, or drunk? Is it affecting you in any way, shape, or form........probably not, so don't continue to say stupid fucking things..............In fact, I would venture to say that people that say "grown-ups (and who uses the term grown ups? if anything it should be adults) getting drunk is pathetic", are themselves, rather pathetic.

[RobinsontoDuncan]

I agree with smeagol that at some point it is immature to continue smoking pot, especially when you have a family, but I think drinking occasionally is an adult decision that ought not be judged. Oh well, to each his own...how do you think bush got elected...becaue people like smeagol think its ok to be the bedroom police.

[johnsmith]

I agree with smeagol that at some point it is immature to continue smoking pot, especially when you have a family, but I think drinking occasionally is an adult decision that ought not be judged. Oh well, to each his own...how do you think bush got elected...becaue people like smeagol think its ok to be the bedroom police.

I don't even smoke pot anymore (thankyou random drug tests) but I still don't think it's a big deal. Fuck, it's more harmless then drinking is.

[smeagol]

No because you actually said "grown-ups getting drunk is pathetic"........seriously, shut the fuck up........

Hey Johnny boy, go fuck yourself.

I think grown ups getting drunk is pathetic, especially if it’s a pattern which repeats itself often.

And I also think taking drugs is stupid.

Sue me.

[johnsmith]

Hey Johnny boy, go fuck yourself.

I think grown ups getting drunk is pathetic, especially if it’s a pattern which repeats itself often.

And I also think taking drugs is stupid.

Sue me.


And I think you should shut the fuck up about it...........so sue me.

[MaNuMaNiAc]

Grown ups getting drunk is pathetic.you know you can get arrested for saying that in some places http://spurstalk.com/forums/images/smilies/smilol.gif

[MannyIsGod]

Hey Johnny boy, go fuck yourself.

I think grown ups getting drunk is pathetic, especially if it’s a pattern which repeats itself often.

And I also think taking drugs is stupid.

Sue me.Why?

[101A]

I'm drunk RIGHT NOW.

[johnsmith]

I'm drunk RIGHT NOW.

That's pathetic.

[smeagol]

Furthermore, what the fuck do you care if people get high, or drunk?

I don’t care. I never said I did.

I simply think it’s pathetic to get drunk. Maybe I should have clarified. I think it’s pathetic to get drunk on a regular basis.


Is it affecting you in any way, shape, or form

It’s not, although it is irrelevant. I can still have an opinion of things which don’t affect me.


probably not, so don't continue to say stupid fucking things..............

So your point is it’s stupid to say taking drugs is wrong (or idiotic, as I stated in an earlier post).


In fact, I would venture to say that people that say "grown-ups (and who uses the term grown ups? if anything it should be adults) getting drunk is pathetic", are themselves, rather pathetic.

Grown-ups . . . adults . . . who the fuck cares. Swap one for the other, if that makes you happy.

[Nbadan]

I think the use of all drugs, including Alcohol, leads to a life of emotional immaturity. You get stuck at the age where you started abusing. None-the-less, I don't think Pot should be made legal, but I do feel it should be decriminalized and should result in a ticket and a drug awareness class and then be exponged from any records.

[smeagol]

but I think drinking occasionally is an adult decision that ought not be judged.

Go back and re-read my posts. I never said drinking occasionally was wrong. Unless drinking occasionally = getting drunk on a regular basis.


Oh well, to each his own...how do you think bush got elected...

What does this discussion have to do with politics?


becaue people like smeagol think its ok to be the bedroom police.

Huh? Bed room police?

Did I say people should not be allowed to get drunk, or get high? No, I never said that. I only said I thought it was stupid. I also think it’s stupid top smoke regular cigarettes, but I would not advocate making them illegal.

You have a serious reading comprehension problem.

[smeagol]

I think the use of all drugs, including Alcohol, leads to a life of emotional immaturity. You get stuck at the age where you started abusing. None-the-less, I don't think Pot should be made legal, but I do feel it should be decriminalized and should result in a ticket and a drug awareness class and then be exponged from any records.
According to most people who post on this thread, you are an idiot for thinking this way :rolleyes

[smeagol]

And I think you should shut the fuck up about it...........so sue me.

You’ve made you point clear. You think it’s ok to get drunk regularly and to take drugs.

Whatever floats your vote, Johnny boy.

[johnsmith]

You’ve made you point clear. You think it’s ok to get drunk regularly and to take drugs.

Whatever floats your vote, Johnny boy.

Whatever floats my vote.........what the fuck does that mean?

And for someone harping on others reading comprehension, you sure have problems with it yourself..........Oh wait, I forgot, you are perfect :rolleyes

[MannyIsGod]

Smeagol,


Why?

[smeagol]

Whatever floats my vote.........what the fuck does that mean?

Boat. I was drunk.


And for someone harping on others reading comprehension, you sure have problems with it yourself

Reading comprehension is not the same as spelling.

And English is not my first language.


Oh wait, I forgot, you are perfect :rolleyes

Huh?

Why am I perfect, because I don’t condone getting drunk and getting high?

How old are you? 16?

[johnsmith]

No, I meant "reading comprehension" in that, when did I ever state that I think it's ok to get drunk regularly and do drugs?

[johnsmith]

Reading comprehension is not the same as spelling.

And English is not my first language.



Huh?

Why am I perfect, because I don’t condone getting drunk and getting high?

How old are you? 16?


Oh God this is priceless as well. Do you see the irony in saying "how old are you? 16?" when your name is based on a fictional character from a fantasy movie geared towards a target audience in the age group of 12-16?

[johnsmith]

And finally, when will you listen to the advice I gave you earlier and shut the fuck up..........Smeagol.........oh man, that just keeps getting funnier.

[smeagol]

Oh God this is priceless as well. Do you see the irony in saying "how old are you? 16?" when your name is based on a fictional character from a fantasy movie geared towards a target audience in the age group of 12-16?

Johnny boy, you are truly and ignorant.

Smeagol is not just a “character from a movie”. He is a character in a book which happens to be voted the most popular book of the 20th century.

Did you learn about LOTR from the movie? :lmao :lmao :lmao

[smeagol]

Smeagol,


Why?

Manny, I’m ignoring you on purpose. I do not want to fight with you. :lol

[johnsmith]

Johnny boy, you are truly and ignorant.

Smeagol is not just a “character from a movie”. He is a character in a book which happens to be voted the most popular book of the 20th century.

Did you learn about LOTR from the movie? :lmao :lmao :lmao


I'm sorry, I try to avoid shitty books about fantasy wizards and warlocks. I know, I know, this offends you because of your love for Magic the Gathering and Dungeons and Dragons, but you'll get over it.

And funny thing about that is that you have the picture of the character from the movie.

Don't be mad because you have so much in common with the kids nowadays.

[clambake]

Truly and ignorant?

There's a joke there somewhere.

[johnsmith]

Answer my other question though, when did I say I thought it was ok to get drunk regularly?

[johnsmith]

Truly and ignorant?

There's a joke there somewhere.


When smeagol gets all worked up his grammar suffers most from it.

[cheguevara]

Even though I agree drinking heavily regularly is bad, I don't think it's pathetic. ppl gotta do what they gotta do. Some ppl might think jerking off to lord of the rings is pathetic too, but that might be smeagol's thing( i don't know)

in other words, ppl do what they gotta do. its not pathetic. a full blown alcoholic is pathetic but that's another story.

[smeagol]

No, I meant "reading comprehension" in that, when did I ever state that I think it's ok to get drunk regularly and do drugs?

You dropped you “reading comprehension” line right after my big vote/boat typo and now you claim it was because of something different.

Yeah, right. :rolleyes

[Spurminator]

Getting drunk in front of coworkers isn't always a good career move. But the findings on social drinking don't surprise me.

[MannyIsGod]

Manny, I’m ignoring you on purpose. I do not want to fight with you. :lolWell, I think when you describe a behavoir I do as stupid, you're making a rather ignorant and misinformed statement especially when you fail to provide the reasoning behind it.

If you're not going to explain why you say things, maybe you shouldn't say them?

[johnsmith]

You dropped you “reading comprehension” line right after my big vote/boat typo and now you claim it was because of something different.

Yeah, right. :rolleyes


First of all vote/boat is an awfully big typo, in fact, it's a whole different word. Second, it was from something different. I may be a lot of things, but a liar is not one of them. Regardless, answer my question you fucktard.

[johnsmith]

Even though I agree drinking heavily regularly is bad, I don't think it's pathetic. ppl gotta do what they gotta do. Some ppl might think jerking off to lord of the rings is pathetic too, but that might be smeagol's thing( i don't know)

in other words, ppl do what they gotta do. its not pathetic. a full blown alcoholic is pathetic but that's another story.


:lol :lol :lol

[johnsmith]

And could it possibly be that I threw out the "reading comprehension" and your lack thereof because you said it to me first? Gosh Smeagol, you sure can dish it out (poorly I might add) but you have a whole lot of trouble taking it..........which from what I've heard from your boyfriend, you do both pretty well. Sexually speaking of course.

[clambake]

You guys should discuss this over drinks! Might I suggest several Ketel One martini's with just 2 olives?

[johnsmith]

You guys should discuss this over drinks! Might I suggest several Ketel One martini's with just 2 olives?


That's just pathetic.

[smeagol]

I'm sorry, I try to avoid shitty books about fantasy wizards and warlocks. I know, I know, this offends you because of your love for Magic the Gathering and Dungeons and Dragons, but you'll get over it.

Dummy, it was voted most popular book of the century by everybody, not just by kids. Is that concept so difficult to grasp?


And funny thing about that is that you have the picture of the character from the movie.

Huh?


Don't be mad because you have so much in common with the kids nowadays.

Ouch! You cut me there buddy. You cut me deep.

[johnsmith]

And yet you continue to avoid the question as well as every other time you've been called out............pathetic.

[cheguevara]

i myself am leaving work and going to purchase a bottle of herradura tequila. thats some good shit.

[johnsmith]

i myself am leaving work and going to purchase a bottle of herradura tequila. thats some good shit.


God you are pathetic.........

[johnsmith]

Are you honestly going back and editing previous posts throughout this thread in order to sound like less of an idiot?

Classic.

[smeagol]

And could it possibly be that I threw out the "reading comprehension" and your lack thereof because you said it to me first?

No. You threw it out to me because of my typo, clearly mistaking a reading comprehension problem with a grammar/spelling problem.

Furthermore, I told RtD he had a reading comprehension problem. I never said you had one. You have many other problems, one opf them being not knowing when somebody is talking to you.


Gosh Smeagol, you sure can dish it out (poorly I might add) but you have a whole lot of trouble taking it..........which from what I've heard from your boyfriend, you do both pretty well. Sexually speaking of course.

Uhhhhhhh!!!! . . . Way to go, johnny boy “the smack-miester”.

[smeagol]

Are you honestly going back and editing previous posts throughout this thread in order to sound like less of an idiot?

Classic.

No, little boy. I’m going back and editing my posts because I made a mistake with the “quote” function. If I wanted to edit my mistakes, as you wrongfully claim, I would’ve changed the vote/boat typo you keep harping me with, or the one clambake brought up.

[johnsmith]

No. You threw it out to me because of my typo, clearly mistaking a reading comprehension problem with a grammar/spelling problem.

We could go back and forth all day on this one. Lets just leave it at, I'm right and you're an idiot.

Furthermore, I told RtD he had a reading comprehension problem. I never said you had one. You have many other problems, one opf them being not knowing when somebody is talking to you.

The only problem I have is that your parents were allowed to procreate.


Uhhhhhhh!!!! . . . Way to go, johnny boy “the smack-miester”.

Better then anything you've come up with.......and when are you going to answer my question? When did I say I think it's ok to get drunk regularly? You aren't answering it because I never said it and you are completely making shit up........plus you're gay.

[smeagol]

No, I meant "reading comprehension" in that, when did I ever state that I think it's ok to get drunk regularly and do drugs?

You might have not said it so many words, but the fact you have repeatedly insulted me when I said it was wrong speaks volumes.

In any case, redeem yourself:

What do you think of people who get drunk regularly or do drugs?

[smeagol]

Better then anything you've come up with.......and when are you going to answer my question? When did I say I think it's ok to get drunk regularly? You aren't answering it because I never said it and you are completely making shit up........plus you're gay.
It was you who started insulting me.

People around this forum know me and know I don't insult strangers and newcomers such as you, out of the blue.

And now you are saying I'm gay as if this were another insult. :rolleyes

Your mummy is reading Cat in the Hat again. Go . . . run, so you don't miss that part you like so much.

[johnsmith]

You might have not said it so many words, but the fact you have repeatedly insulted me when I said it was wrong speaks volumes.

In any case, redeem yourself:

What do you think of people who get drunk regularly or do drugs?


I hold nothing against them. To each their own. I used to smoke weed back in school and now I don't, so I can't really hold anything against them, plus, like I said earlier, weed is a hell of a lot less harmful then alcohol, and just as much fun if you ask me.
As for booze, I drink on weekends, not so much to get wasted, unless the mood strikes me right, which it usually does about twice a month. Does that make me pathetic, no. People that get drunk regularly are not pathetic either, some do it for fun in fact. The ones that have lost control and are having their lives ruined because of it have a disease and usually need help. Nothing pathetic about it, they have just made some bad decisions in their life, or have had things happen to them that were out of their control and need to get both feet on the ground again. I applaud the ones that do recover and I pity the ones that don't, but I sure as hell wouldn't ever call them pathetic because some of them are probably the greatest people on Earth and need the help from others rather then the criticism that some are so quick to give out.

[johnsmith]

It was you who started insulting me.

People around this forum know me and know I don't insult strangers and newcomers such as you, out of the blue.

And now you are saying I'm gay as if this were another insult. :rolleyes

Your mummy is reading Cat in the Hat again. Go . . . run, so you don't miss that part you like so much.


Do you want to know what kids do? They throw out insults towards a person or persons without having any idea what made that person the way he/she is. Kind of like the statement you made regarding people that drink regularly. So I ask you, who is acting like the child? I'm doing it out of fun and boredom here at work on a Friday afternoon, you are doing it out the coldness of your black heart.

[johnsmith]

Plus, you're gay :lmao :lmao

[LaMarcus Bryant]

http://www.drugfreeaz.com/images_druginfo/drivehigh.jpg

http://www.justthinktwice.com/images/dazedgirl.jpg

http://www.justthinktwice.com/images/photo2.gif

[johnsmith]

http://www.drugfreeaz.com/images_druginfo/drivehigh.jpg

http://www.justthinktwice.com/images/dazedgirl.jpg

http://www.justthinktwice.com/images/photo2.gif


Not if you smoke enough of it.

[LaMarcus Bryant]

Harmless? The money you spend on Marijuana goes to a person who gives it to Al Qaeda. Harmless? You decide.

[clambake]

Al Qaeda? Millions of Americans are supporting Al Qaeda?

ALERT THE WHITE HOUSE.

[LaMarcus Bryant]

Harmless? Marijuana causes you to get phone calls from your friend telling you how your girlfriend didn't make it home last night. Harmless? You decide.

[LaMarcus Bryant]

Harmless? The THC in marijuana causes you to point a loaded deer rifle at your best friend and pull the trigger. Harmless? You decide.

[LaMarcus Bryant]

Harmless? Marijuana has caused overrated smoking devices like a roor to become insanely expensive. Harmless? You decide.

[TheSanityAnnex]

mmm..................roor.






reefer madness is a great film.

[bigzak25]

Oh dear lord.........SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU JACKASS........



i take it your not a grown up.

[smeagol]

People that get drunk regularly are not pathetic either, some do it for fun in fact. The ones that have lost control and are having their lives ruined because of it have a disease and usually need help. Nothing pathetic about it, they have just made some bad decisions in their life, or have had things happen to them that were out of their control and need to get both feet on the ground again. I applaud the ones that do recover and I pity the ones that don't, but I sure as hell wouldn't ever call them pathetic because some of them are probably the greatest people on Earth and need the help from others rather then the criticism that some are so quick to give out.

When did I say anything about the people who are truly sick? I only wonder about those who need to get drunk to have fun.

[smeagol]

Do you want to know what kids do? They throw out insults towards a person or persons without having any idea what made that person the way he/she is. Kind of like the statement you made regarding people that drink regularly.

Huh? You make no fucking sense.

I never insulted anybody (pathetic is not much of an insult, although I take the word pathetic back, given that it makes you so uncomfortable) except you, because I was attacked by you since your first post.


So I ask you, who is acting like the child? I'm doing it out of fun and boredom here at work on a Friday afternoon, you are doing it out the coldness of your black heart.

Seriously, how old are you?

[Ozzman]

yeah. Drunks aren't always pathetic. It can lead back to a tramatic event in their lives or something of that nature. Now pot...I don't have anything against potheads that don't drive or heaven forbid FLY while stoned, cause they's usually just in their own little happy world and are just fine with most other people, and personally, I think that we should give free pot to the extremists....cause then they'd be happy...cause this is all that war is about is it not??? lol pot???? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA j/k

[boutons_]

"give free pot to the extremists.."

uh...

assassin:

Etymology: Medieval Latin assassinus, from Arabic hashshish
n, plural of hashshishin, one who smokes or chews hashish,
hashish addict, from hashish, hemp, hashish

Usually capitalized : one of a secret order of Muslims that at the time of the Crusades terrorized Christians and other enemies by secret murder committed under the influence of hashish.

:lol :lol :lol

"One Toke Over Line, Sweet Jesus, One Toke over the Line."

[Ozzman]

fuck up dude I was joking. stop being so god dam serious all the time....geez.

[smeagol]

One more time, I take back the word pathetic.

[Ozzman]

"I'd be more pathetic If I weren't so apathetic..."

[Nbadan]

September 18, 2006 - Washington, DC, USA


Washington, DC: Police arrested an estimated 786,545 persons for marijuana violations in 2005, according to the Federal Bureau of Investigation's annual Uniform Crime Report, released today. The total is the highest ever recorded by the FBI, and comprised 42.6 percent of all drug arrests in the United States.

"These numbers belie the myth that police do not target and arrest minor marijuana offenders," said NORML Executive Director Allen St. Pierre, who noted that at current rates, a marijuana smoker is arrested every 40 seconds in America. "This effort is a tremendous waste of criminal justice resources that diverts law enforcement personnel away from focusing on serious and violent crime, including the war on terrorism."

Of those charged with marijuana violations, approximately 88 percent some 696,074 Americans were charged with possession only. The remaining 90,471 individuals were charged with "sale/manufacture," a category that includes all cultivation offenses even those where the marijuana was being grown for personal or medical use. In past years, roughly 30 percent of those arrested were age 19 or younger.

NORML (http://www.norml.org/index.cfm?Group_ID=7040)

Special interests need new "customers" in the criminal "justice" system on a continuous basis. Craven cops, prosecutors, defense lawyers, bail bondspersons, prison guard unions, private prison builders/operators, and on and on --- all have a stake in making sure there's lots of new "criminals" to leech off.