New Coaches' poll has A&M at #10

[Jimcs50]

Coaches Top 25
Rk Team Record Points
1 Florida (30) 4-0 774
2 North Carolina 3-0 738
3 Ohio State (1) 4-0 675
4 Pittsburgh 5-0 675
5 UCLA 1-0 630
6 LSU 2-0 605
7 Wisconsin 3-0 604
8 Duke 3-0 537
9 Alabama 3-0 464
10 Texas A&M 4-0 446
11 Memphis 1-0 419
12 Kansas 2-1 408
13 Washington 4-0 327
14 Syracuse 4-0 267
15 Arizona 2-1 249
16 Georgetown 2-1 247
17 Marquette 4-0 243
18 Connecticut 4-0 222
19 Georgia Tech 3-0 199
20 Nevada 3-0 170
21 Tennessee 4-0 140
22 Kentucky 2-0 138
23 Gonzaga 4-0 111
24 Maryland 5-0 107
25 Texas 3-1 104



3 yrs ago when A&M was 0-16 in the Big 12, had I told you people that A&M would be #10 and UT would be #25 in less than 3 yrs, you people would have thought I was daft.

:smokin

[SrA Husker]

AP Poll posted also in a different thread :)

[johngateswhiteley]

fucking beautiful!!! A&M was impressive yesterday. i cannot wait until they play UCLA and LSU. they can beat both teams, but they need to win at least one.

[samikeyp]

We still think your daft, Jimbo. :)


Just not about Aggie basketball.

[Jimcs50]

We still think your daft, Jimbo. :)


Just not about Aggie basketball.



I knew that was coming, I was just not sure which of you would say it.

:spin

[samikeyp]

:clap

[johngateswhiteley]

A&M may move up to #7, cause NC, Wisconsin & Duke lost. craziness...

[Mr Dio]

Nice, but the season didn't start 4mos ago nor is it over in 1mo.

[Mr Dio]

After the dirty play in the football game & low class showing by the majority of ags fans on this board I wouldn't be suprised to see an ag inj, maybe on the court??????

[Jimcs50]

After the dirty play in the football game & low class showing by the majority of ags fans on this board I wouldn't be suprised to see an ag inj, maybe on the court??????


You are one pathetic SOB, you know that?

Kori, will you please ban this fuck. I will donate $1000.00 in your name to the charity of your choice if you do.

[Jimcs50]

Heading out to the Idaho St game right now, so hopfully there will be no injuries on either side, despite what dickhead Dio is wishing for.

Go Aggies

[Mr Dio]

You are one pathetic SOB, you know that?

Kori, will you please ban this fuck. I will donate $1000.00 in your name to the charity of your choice if you do.


I guess you can call me the dentist huh Jim?
I hit a nerve hard & it wouldn't be so unless it were true about you. :lol


"Kori, ban dio because he made me cry like a little BITCH!" :lol
Jim the Old Faggot Goat had her feelings hurt. :lol :smokin

[Mr Dio]

Heading out to the Idaho St game right now, so hopfully there will be no injuries on either side, despite what dickhead Dio is wishing for.

Go Aggies


Find where I posted that I wished for an injury you senile FAGGOT. :lol
Asking Kori to ban me because Jim, you are a FEEBLE FAGGOT. :lol

[Jimcs50]

I guess you can call me the dentist huh Jim?
I hit a nerve hard & it wouldn't be so unless it were true about you. :lol


"Kori, ban dio because he made me cry like a little BITCH!" :lol
Jim the Old Faggot Goat had her feelings hurt. :lol :smokin




*sigh*

[Jimcs50]

Find where I posted that I wished for an injury you senile FAGGOT.
Asking Kori to ban me because Jim, you are a FEEBLE FAGGOT. Quote-Mr Dio



perhaps wish was the wrong choice of words, but you implied that there would be an injury to a bball player as a sort of a punishment for a football penalty.

what an idiot.

[Jimcs50]

Nov. 28, 2006, 7:19AM
A&M squeezes off another win
Stifling defense leads to blowout of Ark.-Little Rock


By BRENT SHIRLEY
For The Chronicle

COLLEGE STATION - Thanks to another dose of suffocating defense, No. 9 Texas A&M had no trouble continuing its perfect season Monday night at Reed Arena.

The Aggies (6-0) defeated Arkansas-Little Rock 75-35, with the margin of victory setting a season high.

"Everything is falling into place," senior point guard Acie Law IV said. "We're just making shots and playing good defense."

Law led A&M with 17 points, but it was the Aggies' defense that made life miserable for the Trojans. A&M held UALR to 26 percent shooting, including an 0-for-20 performance on 3-pointers.

The game marked the second time this season the Aggies held an opponent under 40 points, joining a 69-33 victory over Saint Louis.

"I knew we would face a very hungry, hard-playing, defens-ive-minded team," Trojans coach Steve Shields said. "They attacked us, and we were a little passive at times. I have to give credit to them."

Joseph Jones scored 16 points for A&M, and Antanas Kavaliauskas added 13, both bouncing back from Saturday's victory over Idaho State in which they were held to one and four points, respectively.

"We did a great job tonight of establishing (ourselves) inside," A&M coach Billy Gillispie said.

Gillispie also was pleased the Aggies maintained their intensity, even though they were comfortably ahead throughout.

Reserve guard Donald Sloan forced two five-second calls with tight defense, the Aggies applied a full-court man-to-man press while leading by 36 with only a few minutes left in the game, and guard Dominique Kirk dove on the floor for a loose ball on a late possession.

"I want our team to play the absolute hardest it possibly can and execute the best it can," Gillispie said. "It doesn't matter what the score is. It doesn't matter what the time is. We're going to play a certain way, and it doesn't matter if it's the top guy or the last guy."

Against Idaho State, A&M didn't give up a field goal in the final six minutes. On Monday night, the Aggies didn't allow a basket in the last seven minutes.

"He (Gillispie) wants perfection," Jones said. "He doesn't want us to give up a basket. He doesn't want us to give up anything, and he doesn't want us to commit turnovers."

Earlier in the day, A&M moved into the Top 10 in the Associated Press rankings for the first time since it was No. 10 on Jan. 3, 1979. The only other time A&M has been ranked in the Top 10 was during a four-week run in 1959-60. That team was ranked No. 8 one week and 10th the following three weeks.

The Aggies' lofty ranking soon will be put to the test.

After A&M's season-opening run of seven consecutive home games ends Saturday against Pacific, the Aggies go on the road for tests against No. 10 LSU on Dec. 5 and No. 1 UCLA on Dec. 9. :smokin

[johngateswhiteley]

The Aggies' lofty ranking soon will be put to the test.

After A&M's season-opening run of seven consecutive home games ends Saturday against Pacific, the Aggies go on the road for tests against No. 10 LSU on Dec. 5 and No. 1 UCLA on Dec. 9. :smokin

...can't wait for those games. going to be fun getting revenge on Pacific as well. i think A&M probably wins one of those two big games, winning both would just be incredible. but i would love nothing more than to beat fucking ucla.

[Jimcs50]

...can't wait for those games. going to be fun getting revenge on Pacific as well. i think A&M probably wins one of those two big games, winning both would just be incredible. but i would love nothing more than to beat fucking ucla.


Fair warning....Kori is a UCLA grad....be a little more respectful


:nope

[Jimcs50]

That being said, I want to beat UCLA too.


:spin

[johngateswhiteley]

Fair warning....Kori is a UCLA grad....be a little more respectful


:nope

yeah...and i went to USC. fuck ucla.....i said fuck ucla, in case you missed it.

no offense kori, i just hate your fucking school :)

[MajorMike]

The ags currently have the 190th SOS, next they play UOP (267). After UCLA, they have 277 Fordham, 256 Jaxvlle, and 229 Grambling. Their SOS is going to severely affect their RPI, as the RPI is largely based upon SOS. Counting UOP, their opps combined record is 11-22. atm will likely be 12-2 at worst going into B12 play. 3 of their 1st 4 B12 games are on the road (BU, CU, te) and the one home game is OSU. They get the brutal sched this year (@KU, @Neb, @CU).

I believe LSU is severely overrated, and would not be suprised to see them go down. It is @ LSU, however, and LSU does not play another game for 5 days after it, whereas atm will be looking forward to the UCLA game 3 days later.

[johngateswhiteley]

The ags currently have the 190th SOS, next they play UOP (267). After UCLA, they have 277 Fordham, 256 Jaxvlle, and 229 Grambling. Their SOS is going to severely affect their RPI, as the RPI is largely based upon SOS. Counting UOP, their opps combined record is 11-22. atm will likely be 12-2 at worst going into B12 play. 3 of their 1st 4 B12 games are on the road (BU, CU, te) and the one home game is OSU. They get the brutal sched this year (@KU, @Neb, @CU).

I believe LSU is severely overrated, and would not be suprised to see them go down. It is @ LSU, however, and LSU does not play another game for 5 days after it, whereas atm will be looking forward to the UCLA game 3 days later.

yeah, but A&M made the tourney last year with an even weaker non-conference schedule. but if A&M hopes to live up to their ranking and be a high seed they are going to have to win the big ones. if they beat either LSU or UCLA and then play well in the big 12 their strength of schedule will be plenty high. Kansas, t.u., missouri, ok state, and maybe nebraska all have a chance to be ranked this year.

[MajorMike]

The B12 will be down this year. We will be fighting to get a 5th team in, whereas it is the norm for us to get 5 easy and sometimes 6.

[Jimcs50]

The B12 will be down this year. We will be fighting to get a 5th team in, whereas it is the norm for us to get 5 easy and sometimes 6.


So far, the conference looks pretty good:


Big 12 Conference
TEAM CONF W-L TOTAL W-L
Missouri 0-0 7-0
Oklahoma State 0-0 7-0
Iowa State 0-0 6-0
Texas A&M 0-0 6-0
Nebraska 0-0 4-0
Kansas 0-0 5-1
Baylor 0-0 4-1
Kansas State 0-0 4-1
Texas 0-0 4-1
Texas Tech 0-0 5-2
Oklahoma 0-0 3-2
Colorado 0-0 2-3

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Their SOS is going to severely affect their RPI, as the RPI is largely based upon SOS.

Um, no it won't. By the time conference starts we'll have played UCLA, LSU, Winthrop, and Auburn (loved how you skipped over Winthrop and Auburn in your bashing of our schedule - nice work BTW).

Those four games will give us a nice boost to the RPI, with conference doing the rest. Kansas just beat #1 Florida, so when we play them we'll get a boost not only from playing them but the secondary boost from their win over Florida.

I appreciate your concern for our schedule though. As much as it was bashed last year, our final RPI ended up in the 40s, and this year we have a significantly upgraded non-conference schedule.

[Ballcox]

^ I kind of like aggie basketball being ranked so high, adds more interest to Big XII play and specifically when my guys (UT) plays a&m.

Oh, and it will also be much more satisfying to watch them fall when things go wrong. Don't worry, it will happen sometime this season. :smokin

[Jimcs50]

^ I kind of like aggie basketball being ranked so high, adds more interest to Big XII play and specifically when my guys (UT) plays a&m.

Oh, and it will also be much more satisfying to watch them fall when things go wrong. Don't worry, it will happen sometime this season. :smokin


Duh! Every team loses, we are not deluding ourselves into thinking that we will go undefeated. I am saying that this is a team that can get to NCAAs not only as an afterthought, but as a contender to win a regional (not saying they will, but they will have a shot) When a team plays defense the way Billy's teams play, they should in theory, be in every game they play, and if they add some hot shooting (like Carter's 8-9 shooting from the arc two games ago game), they can beat any team on a given day, including LSU, Kansas and UCLA.

[MajorMike]

Um, no it won't. By the time conference starts we'll have played UCLA, LSU, Winthrop, and Auburn (loved how you skipped over Winthrop and Auburn in your bashing of our schedule - nice work BTW).
Winthrop? Are you serious? So far 2 of their 1st 6 games have been against 1AA opps, which is left out of the formula, and 2 of their next 4 will be against 1AA opps. Before they play atm, they play @ No Ill, @ Wisc, @ ECar, @ Old Dom, plus the 2 1AA opps. I hope you don't want to hang your SOS on them. For future reference: if you want to make an intelligent arguement to make it sound like you know something about SOS... don't include Winthrop.

It was already a given and metioned several times that atm is playing UCLA and LSU. I didn't need to reiterate. I did, however, talk about LSU, but I guess you glazed over that.

I also know atm plays Auburn. To be honest, Auburn sucks, and will finish near or below .500 this year, I just didn't want to bash them because OSU just beat them. They are also very poor on the SOS scale for atm, so you might want to do a little research before you attempt to talk smack. You will get no boost from Winthrop or Auburn, for certain. Also, your one 'quality' RPI win is again Saint Louis, and with the fact that they have 5 300+ and an additional 5 200+ teams left on their sched, I seriously doubt they finish there. Figured into their SOS are Xavier x 2 (#4), Richmond (#23), Missouri State (#26), La Salle (#38), Loyola, Chi (#51).


I appreciate your concern for our schedule though. As much as it was bashed last year, our final RPI ended up in the 40s, and this year we have a significantly upgraded non-conference schedule.
Your final RPI was 44 and only 4 teams with a lower RPI were selected as an at-large, which means you were one of the 'Last 5 In." Yes, agreed, that doesn't mean squat once you are in, but it means alot if you don't GET in, plus it is big for who you play and where you play.

For example, atm got a 10 seed after being 21-8 and 4th place in B12. By contrast, Wisconsin was 19-11, lost their last 3, 4th in B11, and they got a 8 seed. Boston College was 25-7, 3rd place, and got a 2 seed. Mich State was a 6th place team at 21-11 and got a 5 seed. All of the mentioned teams had RPI ratings in the Top 20, and the lowest SOS of that group was Wisc at #22. Arizona was 19-12, 4th place, and got a 9 seed with the #23 RPI and #24 SOS. atm was #44 and #35 SOS.

The entire point is that scheduling poor opps early hurts you later. Don't get all pissy and attempt to bring it hard and make yourself look silly when someone is just showing the numbers. You are trying to pull a KState, by claiming elite status beating up on nobodies. Don't get mad at me for showing it, get mad at your AD for scheduling it.


So far, the conference looks pretty good:
Big 12 Conference
TEAM CONF W-L TOTAL W-L
Missouri 0-0 7-0
Oklahoma State 0-0 7-0
Iowa State 0-0 6-0
Texas A&M 0-0 6-0
Nebraska 0-0 4-0
Kansas 0-0 5-1
Baylor 0-0 4-1
Kansas State 0-0 4-1
Texas 0-0 4-1
Texas Tech 0-0 5-2
Oklahoma 0-0 3-2
Colorado 0-0 2-3

As you can see, early season can be deceiving. On Dec 1 last year, KState was #1 RPI at 4-0. They finished 15-13, #110. On 29 Nov, Auburn lost to then #10 ranked 6-0 Colorado State and moved up to #24. Colo St ended up 14-15, #151 and Auburn 12-16, #116.

Up until yesterday, Nebraska was #1 RPI because they had only beaten Creighton (and 2 1AA teams that aren't figured in formula). After beating 0-4 Pine Bluff, they dropped to RPI #9. Pretty sure they aren't gonna stay there long.

[Jimcs50]

As you can see, early season can be deceiving. On Dec 1 last year, KState was #1 RPI at 4-0. They finished 15-13, #110. On 29 Nov, Auburn lost to then #10 ranked 6-0 Colorado State and moved up to #24. Colo St ended up 14-15, #151 and Auburn 12-16, #116.

Up until yesterday, Nebraska was #1 RPI because they had only beaten Creighton (and 2 1AA teams that aren't figured in formula). After beating 0-4 Pine Bluff, they dropped to RPI #9. Pretty sure they aren't gonna stay there long.

What is your point of all this crap?


Will you let us enjoy our bball success, after 25 yrs of futility????

:rolleyes

[MajorMike]

It looks as if the point is, you don't handle success very well, either.

[RonMexico]

It looks as if the point is, you don't handle success very well, either.

And you, your coaches, JamesOn Weed, and the rest of Stillwater don't handle losing very well, at all. Eddie Sutton is a great coach, but he did get a DUI - let's not forget that.

[RonMexico]

Aggie basketball has chances to beat both UCLA and LSU and I'm very happy about that. I would have loved to see them in the Maui or some other preseason tourney like that, but I don't know if they got invited and Billy declined or those tourneys wanted bandwagon teams like Kentucky, UCLA, and Duke. Either way, the school is attempting to increase the difficulty of its non-conference schedule and if Winthrop is a tournament team again this year (along with Pacific - who almost beat Boston College last year), then that looks good on the resume.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Between JamesOn Weed and EdDUIe Sutton, all you guys are missing is a couple of your cheerleaders working down on Cherry Street to complete the trifecta.

[Doug Collins]

It looks as if the point is, you don't handle success very well, either.

You're a fucking idiot. Don't be jealous just because your program is going down the Big 12 shitter and A&M is clearly on the upswing. As an Aggie, I never thought I would be able to enjoy the success of our basketball team, but now I can. Not every team has to have an alcoholic for a coach and a roster full of criminals; your program made a choice to go that route and now you have to live with it. So, enjoy your shit team and allow us to enjoy a team that's finally getting some recognition.

:elephant :elephant :elephant

[Jimcs50]

Had I said 2 yrs ago, that A&M would be ranked ahead of Duke after 1/4 of the 06-07 season had been played, you people would have had me commited as a certifiable lunatic.

:)

[Jimcs50]

It looks as if the point is, you don't handle success very well, either.


What is your point?

How are we not handling success?

[johngateswhiteley]

You're a fucking idiot. Don't be jealous just because your program is going down the Big 12 shitter and A&M is clearly on the upswing. As an Aggie, I never thought I would be able to enjoy the success of our basketball team, but now I can. Not every team has to have an alcoholic for a coach and a roster full of criminals; your program made a choice to go that route and now you have to live with it. So, enjoy your shit team and allow us to enjoy a team that's finally getting some recognition.

:elephant :elephant :elephant

few things:

1. is A&M going to do very well this year = yes, imo
2. ok state is actually pretty decent right now
3. most importantly, who gives a shit what capt. mike thinks....you don't need his approval to enjoy Aggie basketball...he is meaningless

[Horry For 3!]

Northhhhhhhh Carolinaaaaaaaaaaa :smokin

[RonMexico]

You're a fucking idiot. Don't be jealous just because your program is going down the Big 12 shitter and A&M is clearly on the upswing. As an Aggie, I never thought I would be able to enjoy the success of our basketball team, but now I can. Not every team has to have an alcoholic for a coach and a roster full of criminals; your program made a choice to go that route and now you have to live with it. So, enjoy your shit team and allow us to enjoy a team that's finally getting some recognition.

:elephant :elephant :elephant

The best post of 2006. Ok State can be good playing nobody non-conference. Wait until conference play begins. A&M is a good team because they have great character from the top-down. Billy Gillespie doesn't accept anything less than 100% on both ends of the floor and does not let his men (yes, they are men) resort to anything remotely close to taunting, blaming officials, or blaming each other. Gillespie will often say things like, "we need guys to protect the ball better or we need guys who will play tough defense." But if they turn the ball over too much or shoot poorly or don't give enough effort, he'll be the first to take the blame... but I can guarantee you those guys will be running double in practice that week.

[MajorMike]

You're a fucking idiot. Don't be jealous just because your program is going down the Big 12 shitter and A&M is clearly on the upswing. As an Aggie, I never thought I would be able to enjoy the success of our basketball team, but now I can. Not every team has to have an alcoholic for a coach and a roster full of criminals; your program made a choice to go that route and now you have to live with it. So, enjoy your shit team and allow us to enjoy a team that's finally getting some recognition.

:elephant :elephant :elephant

Man, I have never seen such grade school tactics here. Tell you what, lets go out during recess and duke it out.

I haven't said anywhere OSU is going to be good. As a matter of fact, they aren't very good. They turn the ball over 20 times a game, got lucky to not have to play #7 Wisc in South Padre, and almost lost to a very poor Auburn team.

I merely was pointing out originally in the thread that this OOC SOS is going to hurt atm again and you girls take it so hard. It is amazing how one little breath of success in basketball has turned you all into PMSing 14-year olds. I said nothing negative about atm, yet all are all on the defensive. Sheesh grow up and read a post before you get your panties in a wad.

Oh, and atm isn't the #7 team in the nation.

[Jimcs50]

Oh, and atm isn't the #7 team in the nation.

They will be this next poll..they are #8 now.

[johngateswhiteley]

They will be this next poll..they are #8 now.

jimmy, just ignore this douche.

[RonMexico]

Man, I have never seen such grade school tactics here. Tell you what, lets go out during recess and duke it out.

I haven't said anywhere OSU is going to be good. As a matter of fact, they aren't very good. They turn the ball over 20 times a game, got lucky to not have to play #7 Wisc in South Padre, and almost lost to a very poor Auburn team.

I merely was pointing out originally in the thread that this OOC SOS is going to hurt atm again and you girls take it so hard. It is amazing how one little breath of success in basketball has turned you all into PMSing 14-year olds. I said nothing negative about atm, yet all are all on the defensive. Sheesh grow up and read a post before you get your panties in a wad.

Oh, and atm isn't the #7 team in the nation.


Have you realized the school you're rooting for? Barry Sanders is the only thing to come out of that school besides T. Boone Pickens... You're PMSing every minute over us calling you out on your bullshit. Yay, we're 7-0 and we don't have a good SOS!!! GOOOOOO OSU!!!!! Let's ride our shaky character guys all the way to 7-9 in the Big 12!!! P.S. Even Stillwater is a worse town than College Station - you got nothin left.

[Doug Collins]

Man, I have never seen such grade school tactics here. Tell you what, lets go out during recess and duke it out.

I haven't said anywhere OSU is going to be good. As a matter of fact, they aren't very good. They turn the ball over 20 times a game, got lucky to not have to play #7 Wisc in South Padre, and almost lost to a very poor Auburn team.

I merely was pointing out originally in the thread that this OOC SOS is going to hurt atm again and you girls take it so hard. It is amazing how one little breath of success in basketball has turned you all into PMSing 14-year olds. I said nothing negative about atm, yet all are all on the defensive. Sheesh grow up and read a post before you get your panties in a wad.

Oh, and atm isn't the #7 team in the nation.

Uhhh...you were the one with the sandy vagina posting all the SOS RPI garbage in the first place when nobody asked for it. So, just shut the fuck up and enjoy your mediocre athletics program and education...assuming you went to college.

[MajorMike]

Have you realized the school you're rooting for? Barry Sanders is the only thing to come out of that school besides T. Boone Pickens... You're PMSing every minute over us calling you out on your bullshit. Yay, we're 7-0 and we don't have a good SOS!!! GOOOOOO OSU!!!!! Let's ride our shaky character guys all the way to 7-9 in the Big 12!!! P.S. Even Stillwater is a worse town than College Station - you got nothin left.

Show me where I said OSU was good. Thanks for playing.

Thurman Thomas was decent.

[Jimcs50]

Going to see the Pacific game today at 2. Aggies can avenge their loss from last year in Stockton. Last tune up before the LSU game on Tuesday night, so hopefully the Aggies can play a great game.

Go Aggies!

[johngateswhiteley]

Going to see the Pacific game today at 2. Aggies can avenge their loss from last year in Stockton. Last tune up before the LSU game on Tuesday night, so hopefully the Aggies can play a great game.

Go Aggies!

sweet! have fun at the game...i hope we pound the tigers! i remember listening to the game on the web last year...such a frustrating loss.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

Shit yall play LSU? That will be a great game.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

I merely was pointing out originally in the thread that this OOC SOS is going to hurt atm again and you girls take it so hard.

No, you're the girl in this thread. Our strength of schedule last season ended up at 45.

This year, we've taken away some of the weak sisters from last year and replaced them with:

#1 UCLA
#6 LSU
Winthrop (going to make the tourney)
Pacific (going to win their conference and make their tourney)
Auburn (will benefit the SOS from them being in the SEC)
Saint Louis (already defeated, will be solid in C-USA)

The facts of the situation don't match up with your take on our SOS, but I guess that's about all you OSU have to hope for these days.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Shit yall play LSU? That will be a great game.

CBF - we play LSU and UCLA back to back. Going to be a huge week for Aggie hoops next week!

[willie]

kinda dumb to argue that A&M has a weak non-conference schedule this season, but it's the internets so someone will do so.

[MajorMike]

#1 UCLA
#6 LSU
Winthrop (going to make the tourney)
Pacific (going to win their conference and make their tourney)
Auburn (will benefit the SOS from them being in the SEC)
Saint Louis (already defeated, will be solid in C-USA)


This list will be remembered and made fun of at a later.

[Jimcs50]

Ags are #6 now

:smokin

[Jimcs50]

Winthrop? Are you serious? .


Winthrop just lost by 3 pts in Madison last night to #8 Wisconsin in OT and had an open look at a 3 to send it into double OT.

You were saying?

:lol

[johngateswhiteley]

Winthrop just lost by 3 pts in Madison last night to #8 Wisconsin in OT and had an open look at a 3 to send it into double OT.

You were saying?

:lol


...yep, i saw that too. go get him Jim.

[MajorMike]

Yawn. Losing means no chance in hell, right jgw?

[johngateswhiteley]

Yawn. Losing means no chance in hell, right jgw?

...did i ever say ok state would not be good? did i ever say the games would not be close? i just said they wouldn't win either game...and they didn't.

winthrop is a good team, they just lost to someone better.

[MajorMike]

No, you said "...no chance in hell" and later followed it up by saying you were right, because a loss is a loss.

Winthrop is not a good team. They will finish with a RPI of around 80. That is not a good team. OSU's RPI was 89 last year, and we were horrid.

[johngateswhiteley]

No, you said "...no chance in hell" and later followed it up by saying you were right, because a loss is a loss.

Winthrop is not a good team. They will finish with a RPI of around 80. That is not a good team. OSU's RPI was 89 last year, and we were horrid.

yeah, i know what i said. and i did say, "no chance in hell" which also means they would lose....and they did.

[Doug Collins]

No, you said "...no chance in hell" and later followed it up by saying you were right, because a loss is a loss.

Winthrop is not a good team. They will finish with a RPI of around 80. That is not a good team. OSU's RPI was 89 last year, and we were horrid.


If we're gonna get technical OSU actually had an RPI of 95 last year, and Winthrop had an RPI of 73. I guess since you only watch OSU you didn't know that Winthrop took Tennessee, #8 in RPI, to the limit in the tourney and only lost by 2. Granted they are a small school, but they have a good history of playing well in the NCAA tournament and against much larger programs during the regular season.

[MajorMike]

If we're gonna get technical OSU actually had an RPI of 95 last year, and Winthrop had an RPI of 73. I guess since you only watch OSU you didn't know that Winthrop took Tennessee, #8 in RPI, to the limit in the tourney and only lost by 2. Granted they are a small school, but they have a good history of playing well in the NCAA tournament and against much larger programs during the regular season.

Uh... no.
89 Oklahoma St 17-15 0.5448 13.8 14.2 0.4929 0.5728 0.5406 45 0.5621 78 0.5544
90 Northeastern 18-11 0.5424 16.4 8.6 0.6560 0.5018 0.5100 145 0.5045 109 0.5336

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91 DePaul 12-15 0.5421 10.8 14.6 0.4252 0.5907 0.5617 16 0.5810 89 0.5469
92 UNLV 17-13 0.5419 13.8 11.4 0.5476 0.5490 0.5219 75 0.5400 90 0.5466
93 Iowa State 15-14 0.5418 12.6 14.0 0.4737 0.5750 0.5436 39 0.5645 80 0.5527
94 Davidson 17-10 0.5410 14.2 6.8 0.6762 0.4998 0.4881 162 0.4959 115 0.5293
95 Notre Dame 15-13 0.5403 12.2 12.6 0.4919 0.5591 0.5508 52 0.5564 83 0.5512
96 Nebraska 19-13 0.5391 14.6 12.6 0.5368 0.5432 0.5334 76 0.5399 79 0.5534


And, yes, Winthrop DID have an RPI of 73. Nice job. Now please show me where I said what their RPI was last year. They were 82 the year before that, 210 the year before that, 183, 217, 188, 143, 153, 295, 250, 284, 276 and 274 dating back to the 1993-94 season, since you are wanting to know what they used to be. Why does it matter what they were in 1994? It doesn't anymore than it matters what they were last year. Last year was the best season ever in Winthrop basketball.

Since you want to show how good they did against a good team, it MUST be relavant to you that "Craig Bradshaw buried a soft hook shot with 9.1 seconds left to help Winthrop beat Coastal Carolina 51-50 in the Big South Conference title game on Saturday to earn an automatic berth into the NCAA tournament." That's Coastal Carolina they beat to get in the dance. Coastal Carolina was 16-10. They almost lost to them, at home (they tourney was played on their home court). Why does it matter? It doesn't, anymore than who they played or lost to in the tourney. They were a #15 seed. That means out of ALL the automatic qualifiers in ALL the stupid little nowhere conferences, the NCAA only thought they were better than about 5 or 6 of them, and THAT'S considering that there 10 teams with worse RPIs than them.

Their history of playing well in the tourney still leaves them 0-5 all time. You guys kill me. You are so wrapped around the axel to show what a nice schedule that you are trying to build Winthrop up as a good team. This is most likely the most pathetic tangent I have ever seen. Winthrop, while they may be a big wig in the highly touted South Conf, sucks. And don't say that they are good just because they made it to the NCAA... 16-15 Hampton (RPI 285) was in the NCAA last year.

[BeerIsGood!]

The beautiful thing about college basketball - RPI means absolutely nothing since there is that nice little tourney in March that decides the true Champion.

Congrats to AM for the great start. It's going to be a fun season.

[RonMexico]

Winthrop? Are you serious? So far 2 of their 1st 6 games have been against 1AA opps, which is left out of the formula, and 2 of their next 4 will be against 1AA opps. Before they play atm, they play @ No Ill, @ Wisc, @ ECar, @ Old Dom, plus the 2 1AA opps. I hope you don't want to hang your SOS on them. For future reference: if you want to make an intelligent arguement to make it sound like you know something about SOS... don't include Winthrop.

It was already a given and metioned several times that atm is playing UCLA and LSU. I didn't need to reiterate. I did, however, talk about LSU, but I guess you glazed over that.

I also know atm plays Auburn. To be honest, Auburn sucks, and will finish near or below .500 this year, I just didn't want to bash them because OSU just beat them. They are also very poor on the SOS scale for atm, so you might want to do a little research before you attempt to talk smack. You will get no boost from Winthrop or Auburn, for certain. Also, your one 'quality' RPI win is again Saint Louis, and with the fact that they have 5 300+ and an additional 5 200+ teams left on their sched, I seriously doubt they finish there. Figured into their SOS are Xavier x 2 (#4), Richmond (#23), Missouri State (#26), La Salle (#38), Loyola, Chi (#51).


Your final RPI was 44 and only 4 teams with a lower RPI were selected as an at-large, which means you were one of the 'Last 5 In." Yes, agreed, that doesn't mean squat once you are in, but it means alot if you don't GET in, plus it is big for who you play and where you play.

For example, atm got a 10 seed after being 21-8 and 4th place in B12. By contrast, Wisconsin was 19-11, lost their last 3, 4th in B11, and they got a 8 seed. Boston College was 25-7, 3rd place, and got a 2 seed. Mich State was a 6th place team at 21-11 and got a 5 seed. All of the mentioned teams had RPI ratings in the Top 20, and the lowest SOS of that group was Wisc at #22. Arizona was 19-12, 4th place, and got a 9 seed with the #23 RPI and #24 SOS. atm was #44 and #35 SOS.

The entire point is that scheduling poor opps early hurts you later. Don't get all pissy and attempt to bring it hard and make yourself look silly when someone is just showing the numbers. You are trying to pull a KState, by claiming elite status beating up on nobodies. Don't get mad at me for showing it, get mad at your AD for scheduling it.



As you can see, early season can be deceiving. On Dec 1 last year, KState was #1 RPI at 4-0. They finished 15-13, #110. On 29 Nov, Auburn lost to then #10 ranked 6-0 Colorado State and moved up to #24. Colo St ended up 14-15, #151 and Auburn 12-16, #116.

Up until yesterday, Nebraska was #1 RPI because they had only beaten Creighton (and 2 1AA teams that aren't figured in formula). After beating 0-4 Pine Bluff, they dropped to RPI #9. Pretty sure they aren't gonna stay there long.

Go fuck yourself, CaptMike

[RonMexico]

This list will be remembered and made fun of at a later.

Go ahead and make fun of it, asshole.

Remember to put OSU on there (as NIT-bound)