PDA

View Full Version : Big Ben Anyone?



Sweet Pea
11-29-2006, 04:06 PM
Hi all...1st post but long time lurker & Spurs fan. Stuck here in LA so I live vicariously thru this forum.

With all the buzz going on in Chicago.....just wondering what you think Pop/RC would give up to get Big Ben in Alamo. Just imagine TD, Wallace and Bowen as our staring frontcourt. :spless:

Kori Ellis
11-29-2006, 04:09 PM
No thanks.

I don't think they want that contract.

Drive Like Jehu
11-29-2006, 04:11 PM
I can't imagine a deal for anyone with a contract that large that would not require one of the big three (Manu, Tony and Tim) just to match salary.

Mr. Body
11-29-2006, 04:11 PM
Nothing. Awful contract deep into his dotage. He looks more and more like a coach killer, too. We can't afford any more dead spots in the offensive rotation, anyway.

ChumpDumper
11-29-2006, 04:12 PM
That contract is huge and only gets bigger, while Ben won't get better.

PM5K
11-29-2006, 04:28 PM
Hmm, Manu has been playing like shit recently...



LOL

Sweet Pea
11-29-2006, 04:32 PM
Hmm, Manu has been playing like shit recently...



LOL

I was thinking the same....Bulls do need scoring

Ariel
11-29-2006, 04:39 PM
I agree it won't happen, but if Chicago wanted to rid themselves of his contract, theoretically the Spurs could absorb it without breaking up their core. He makes about 16M, which means the Spurs would have to send about 12.72M in salaries, which is about what Brent, Eric Williams, Elson / Oberto and Beno make. Not that they'd go for it, but if they were desperate enough to rid themselves of him, the Spurs could put together a package (which would have to include other incentives, such as picks, draft rights, and money considerations) worth considering. And regardless of Ben being worth the last 2 years of his contract, with him the Spurs would have two more championship banners in two year's time. Again, a long shot if I ever saw one, but...

Sweet Pea
11-29-2006, 04:44 PM
I agree it won't happen, but if Chicago wanted to rid themselves of his contract, theoretically the Spurs could absorb it without breaking up their core. He makes about 16M, which means the Spurs would have to send about 12.72M in salaries, which is about what Brent, Eric Williams, Elson / Oberto and Beno make. Not that they'd go for it, but if they were desperate enough to rid themselves of him, the Spurs could put together a package (which would have to include other incentives, such as picks, draft rights, and money considerations) worth considering. And regardless of Ben being worth the last 2 years of his contract, with him the Spurs would have two more championship banners in two year's time. Again, a long shot if I ever saw one, but...


What's Scola's rights worth??? Barry won't work cause he wears a headband...maybe after his noggins heals.

PM5K
11-29-2006, 04:47 PM
What's Scola's rights worth??? Barry won't work cause he wears a headband...maybe after his noggins heals.

LMMFAO

ChumpDumper
11-29-2006, 04:48 PM
What's Scola's rights worth???For salary matching?

$0.00

mrose31
11-29-2006, 05:20 PM
Id rather get in this order

Nocioni
Hinrich
Gordon
Deng

Que Gee
11-29-2006, 06:06 PM
Hi all...1st post but long time lurker & Spurs fan. Stuck here in LA so I live vicariously thru this forum.

With all the buzz going on in Chicago.....just wondering what you think Pop/RC would give up to get Big Ben in Alamo. Just imagine TD, Wallace and Bowen as our staring frontcourt. :spless:

3 against 5 offensively isn't so smart.

Ariel
11-29-2006, 06:10 PM
3 against 5 offensively isn't so smart.
Maybe a bit better than you'd think when they can't score a damn point on you, and you have Timmy, Manu and Tony on your team to take care of the offense.

phxspurfan
11-29-2006, 06:33 PM
big ben + TD = two help defenders. we neeed somebody who can defend on ball better (even tho ben is a great on ball defender in his own right).

TMTTRIO
11-29-2006, 06:40 PM
Hmm, Manu has been playing like shit recently...



LOL



Throw in Scola and then Chicago would have Team Argentina again :p:

Sweet Pea
11-29-2006, 06:52 PM
3 against 5 offensively isn't so smart.

Ben's function on the offensive end wouldn't be much different then Fab. No need to run plays...but rebound and garbage shots.

Free throws would be a major problem though.

phxspurfan
11-29-2006, 07:00 PM
fabricios J >>> bens J

Obstructed_View
11-29-2006, 09:24 PM
Wallace would have to throw in at least 30 million in cash to make that even plausible.

exstatic
11-29-2006, 09:34 PM
Ben's function on the offensive end wouldn't be much different then Fab. No need to run plays...but rebound and garbage shots.

Free throws would be a major problem though.
Unfortunately, he doesn't accept that role anymore. One of the reasons he chafed at Flip last year was because that was what was expected, and he wanted more touches. Ridiculous, I know.

Vinnie_Johnson
11-29-2006, 10:28 PM
big ben + TD = two help defenders. we neeed somebody who can defend on ball better (even tho ben is a great on ball defender in his own right).

Ben is not a great on ball defender he is a great weak side help defender. Sheed is a great man on defender that's why he plays Tim not Ben. You guys don't need an overpriced big headed Ben.

Aggie Hoopsfan
11-29-2006, 10:47 PM
just wondering what you think Pop/RC would give up to get Big Ben in Alamo.

Not a fucking thing.


Just imagine TD, Wallace and Bowen as our staring frontcourt.

As if Tim doesn't get doubled enough already... :lol

Hell no.

intlspurshk
11-29-2006, 11:30 PM
The only reason for SPURS to trade for big ben is when the deal is package with the NY pick (a 25% chance to get Greg Oden)

JamStone
11-29-2006, 11:33 PM
Actually, Brent Barry, Francisco Elson, Jackie Butler, and Eric Williams' contract would be enough to match salaries. Spurs could throw in either James White or a future draft pick to make it more enticing. If things continue to go bad in Chicago, perhaps they consider just dumping Ben's contract for something like that. Now, the question is whether it would be prudent for the Spurs to do it. I'd say no, even though I suspect Ben on the Spurs would be more effective and much more energized playing alongside Tim than he is with the Bulls. His contract, regardless of the fact that it's front loaded, is still horrible.

phxspurfan
11-30-2006, 11:45 AM
that would leave how many (or few) on our roster and how many holes? no, thanks.

VaSpursFan
11-30-2006, 12:09 PM
pass. we already have bowen as our defensive specialist and offensive liablility although he has been stepping up as of late. the last thing we need is another frontcourt player that is offensively challenged. with the rules now, the days of steel curtain defense are quickly fading.