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SequSpur
12-28-2006, 12:45 PM
needs to start looking in the mirror. His lineups are terrible, his adjustments are obsolete. His recruiting philosophy is terrible. He hasn't made a trade or free agent signing in years that has made a difference...
Are the Spurs really capable of winning any more championships with this core and his philosophy?
Maybe the philosophy and the plan is wrong. It's not always the will of the players.
Mr.Bottomtooth
12-28-2006, 12:48 PM
There should be a loophole in his contract saying if we dont win the championship we get to take away his wine. That'll do it.
ChumpDumper
12-28-2006, 12:57 PM
If anyone better was available, that could be considered.
Solid D
12-28-2006, 01:00 PM
Greg Popovich
Who is Greg Popovich? Ohhh, you must mean Gregg Popovich.
SequSpur
12-28-2006, 01:05 PM
If anyone better was available, that could be considered.
? It has nothing to do with being better... It's called making a change..
You mean to tell me Pop won championships because he was good?
No, it's because he had Duncan and Robinson.
SequSpur
12-28-2006, 01:05 PM
Who is Greg Popovich? Ohhh, you must mean Gregg Popovich.
Sorry Pop Jr. Didn't mean to spell your dad's name wrong.
ChumpDumper
12-28-2006, 01:07 PM
It has nothing to do with being better.At least you admit that. End of thread, then.
Fabbs
12-28-2006, 01:09 PM
Was it not unanimous that Spurs had the best talent last year, save for a few fluke pickers who squak afterwords that The Heat and Mavs had more talent? When Finley was added as a FA, the mantra was the rich got richer and everyone picked Spurs as Champs. For the squakers, show me one post of yours that had The Mavs and Heat better at the start of the season*.
*Excludes Mavs suck up posters.
Pops got worked by Avery last postseason, but in the end the Spurs were in a position to advance. It was the ManuFart and Dickie Bav. Should it have even been that close tho?
Beno. While i have not and am not defending Beno, I can't help but wonder if its The Great Santini Style Pop who does not know jack about motivating Beno. Could it be the Bobby Knight/barking military crap simply does not work with Beno. Yeah yeah I've heard all the "Beno is a pussy" comments, and i dont know, perhaps he is. Also heard how many say Beno is right up there as being one of the better passers and shooters on the Spurs. Will he go to another team and flourish? I'm just asking, I don't say he will. Point being yes does Pop need to change some of his tactics?
The SmallBalls thing will be argued into perpetuity. It sucked, it costed.
tlongII
12-28-2006, 01:12 PM
The Spurs should hire Rick Adelman. If they are intent on becoming an offensive team he is the right man for the job.
SequSpur
12-28-2006, 01:34 PM
At least you admit that. End of thread, then.
Idiot as usual.
If you play Beno in crunch time against the Bucks, you suck. It's time to go. Not even Tarkanian would've done that.
ChumpDumper
12-28-2006, 01:36 PM
Idiot as usual.:lol You're the one who said it has nothing to do with getting better. That's sigworthy. You're the gift that keeps on giving.
SequSpur
12-28-2006, 01:44 PM
:lol You're the one who said it has nothing to do with getting better. That's sigworthy. You're the gift that keeps on giving.
Tpark could've won championships with Duncan and Robinson.
How many times does a coach have to go to the soft card as an excuse? How many times does a coach have to go to we aren't playing defense excuse?
How many times must Beno play? Is he Pop's son or something?
How many times is he going to sign 3rd string centers and try to make them into the next David Robinson? They would be better off without them.
Make a signature chumpdumber... I don't give a shit... I've moved past the players... it's on Pop now.
ChumpDumper
12-28-2006, 01:45 PM
it's on Pop now:lmao
What do you mean "now"?
SequSpur
12-28-2006, 01:53 PM
:lmao
What do you mean "now"?
I am not going to sit here and bitch about players anymore, I am blaming the top dog. Gregory Popovich. The luckiest coach in the history of the NBA.
As long as he plays Beno, Bonner, Elson, Vaugn and Butler, he's an idiot. One at a time, as a combo, on IR, whatever, got damn stupid.
ChumpDumper
12-28-2006, 01:55 PM
I am not going to sit here and bitch about players anymoreQuite a new year's resolution.
Solid D
12-28-2006, 01:58 PM
:lol
Walton Buys Off Me
12-28-2006, 01:58 PM
Spurs biggest problems;
1. Gregg Popovich: Has lost sight of the forest through the tress. It happens to almost all that are as entrenched as Pop has been over the years. It's not his fault but it's the truth.
2. Tim Duncan: Wasn't this supposed to be the year Duncan returned to the MVP-type level? Instead I see a lazy, arrogant, disinterested guy making 17 million dollars a year and giving a 50$ effort. Be a leader Tim, not a schoolgirl, it's pathetic and sad what's become of him.
3. Tony Parker: Stop thinking you're anything more than a third option. Time and time and time again, Parker fades like old denim in the fourth quarter and compounds it by hogging the ball doing his best Stephon Marbury impression.
cheguevara
12-28-2006, 02:01 PM
I am not going to sit here and bitch about players anymore
3 minutes later......
Trade Manu + fillers for him and a backup point.
Manu can't play more than 4 minutes at a time.
:bang
K-State Spur
12-28-2006, 02:13 PM
Idiot as usual.
If you play Beno in crunch time against the Bucks, you suck. It's time to go. Not even Tarkanian would've done that.
exactly, because championships are won during the last week in december...
timvp
12-28-2006, 02:17 PM
I am not going to sit here and bitch about players anymore, I am blaming the top dog. Gregory Popovich. The luckiest coach in the history of the NBA.
Actually, his name is Greggor Popovich.
SequSpur
12-28-2006, 02:17 PM
exactly, because championships are won during the last week in december...
yeah, good point.. and championships aren't won at a Game 7 at home either.
:rolleyes
tim_duncan_fan
12-28-2006, 02:18 PM
exactly, because championships are won during the last week in december...
In a technical sense they are. What you do early on sets the tone for later. Watch. If we dont straighten out our defense pretty soon we're going to end up trying to get it together just before the playoffs start and its not going to work.
SequSpur
12-28-2006, 02:19 PM
Actually, his name is Greggor Popovich.
:clap
tim_duncan_fan
12-28-2006, 02:20 PM
Actually, his name is Greggor Popovich.
Who cares?
Borosai
12-28-2006, 02:30 PM
Take a sip.
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Amuseddaysleeper
12-28-2006, 03:03 PM
Spurs biggest problems;
1. Gregg Popovich: Has lost sight of the forest through the tress. It happens to almost all that are as entrenched as Pop has been over the years. It's not his fault but it's the truth.
2. Tim Duncan: Wasn't this supposed to be the year Duncan returned to the MVP-type level? Instead I see a lazy, arrogant, disinterested guy making 17 million dollars a year and giving a 50$ effort. Be a leader Tim, not a schoolgirl, it's pathetic and sad what's become of him.
3. Tony Parker: Stop thinking you're anything more than a third option. Time and time and time again, Parker fades like old denim in the fourth quarter and compounds it by hogging the ball doing his best Stephon Marbury impression.
agreed
though Parker deserves to be more than a third option on certain nights
K-State Spur
12-28-2006, 03:54 PM
In a technical sense they are. What you do early on sets the tone for later. Watch. If we dont straighten out our defense pretty soon we're going to end up trying to get it together just before the playoffs start and its not going to work.
In each of our previous championship seasons, we had much bigger problems at some point during the regular season than we have had at any point this year.
None of those teams really put it together until the rodeo trip.
I'm not saying things are rosy at the moment, I needed more than a couple shots of whiskey after Tuesday's game.
Ballcox
12-28-2006, 04:05 PM
^Hell, going by Sequ Spur's demented logic, all good coaches are 'lucky'. I guess Phil Jackson is the luckiest motherfucker in the world! Shit, just because in the past we could roll out Drob and Tim doesn't gurantee you a damn thing, especially not a championship. IMO, just like it takes great players to win titles, it also takes great coaches as well. Now, I'm not sure where Pop ranks on a list of all time great coaches, but I believe he's in a pretty damn nice neighborhood with 3 rings so far.
SequSpur
12-28-2006, 04:29 PM
^Hell, going by Sequ Spur's demented logic, all good coaches are 'lucky'. I guess Phil Jackson is the luckiest motherfucker in the world! Shit, just because in the past we could roll out Drob and Tim doesn't gurantee you a damn thing, especially not a championship. IMO, just like it takes great players to win titles, it also takes great coaches as well. Now, I'm not sure where Pop ranks on a list of all time great coaches, but I believe he's in a pretty damn nice neighborhood with 3 rings so far.
Great logic... I guess the continuance of the Beno Project might actually pay off... :drunk
itzsoweezee
12-28-2006, 04:33 PM
In each of our previous championship seasons, we had much bigger problems at some point during the regular season than we have had at any point this year.
no they didn't. the cornerstone of spurs basketball (defense) is crumbling. that's never been the case before. usually the problems had been on the offensive end.
the rockets hadn't won in san antonio in years; the bucks hadn't won in san antonio in years. hopefully, utah's drought in san antonio continues but it doesn't look good.
K-State Spur
12-28-2006, 05:21 PM
the rockets hadn't won in san antonio in years; the bucks hadn't won in san antonio in years. hopefully, utah's drought in san antonio continues but it doesn't look good.
that's flawed logic. we may not have been losing to those teams, but there were other lottery bound teams that did come in and win just the same.
i am worried about the defense, but it's laziness and slow rotations. those things are correctable and i expect them to be corrected. i am more worried about the longterm rebounding situation.
SequSpur
12-28-2006, 05:29 PM
The Spurs don't have a leader anymore. That's a problem.
SPURS vs NBA media
12-28-2006, 06:19 PM
I am not going to sit here and bitch about players anymore, I am blaming the top dog. Gregory Popovich. The luckiest coach in the history of the NBA.
As long as he plays Beno, Bonner, Elson, Vaugn and Butler, he's an idiot. One at a time, as a combo, on IR, whatever, got damn stupid.
thank god you are going to stop bitching about manu
Ballcox
12-28-2006, 06:27 PM
The Spurs don't have a leader anymore. That's a problem.
I guess the sky is falling all the time in your world. If Tim isn't a leader, then I don't know who is, give me a break. I also think Manu and Tony lead by example and are looked up to on this team. Yes, I do think our defense has been sub-standard lately, but I'm sure as hell not going to buy into the gloom and doom thought process this early in the season.
SequSpur
12-28-2006, 06:42 PM
I guess the sky is falling all the time in your world. If Tim isn't a leader, then I don't know who is, give me a break. I also think Manu and Tony lead by example and are looked up to on this team. Yes, I do think our defense has been sub-standard lately, but I'm sure as hell not going to buy into the gloom and doom thought process this early in the season.
LEADER. That is 1 person. It's not plural.
Damn.
T Park
12-28-2006, 07:09 PM
Who should be the coach of the Spurs then, right now, out of the available coaches?
Start naming names geniuses.
Ballcox
12-28-2006, 07:14 PM
^What, you can't have more than one leader on a team or something? I stated Tim's name, and I tend to think he sets the tone for this team and he is THE LEADER. That doesn't mean there can't be other guys who lead, whether it's by example, by how they play, how they practice, etc. So calm the fuck down webster.
dknights411
12-28-2006, 07:15 PM
No matter who Sequ thinks should replace Pop, Pop has already proven that he is a great coach. I mean, how many other coaches have 3 rings in NBA history?
So bitching about Pop is just picking at random straws. We can second guess him until hell freezes over, but talking about firing him is a bit desperate on your part.
SequSpur
12-28-2006, 07:25 PM
No matter who Sequ thinks should replace Pop, Pop has already proven that he is a great coach. I mean, how many other coaches have 3 rings in NBA history?
So bitching about Pop is just picking at random straws. We can second guess him until hell freezes over, but talking about firing him is a bit desperate on your part.
Pop played Beno up by 10 in crunch time and lost a game. Whose fault is that?
Tpark, eat shit... Pop's mom could coach better than this.
itzsoweezee
12-28-2006, 07:37 PM
No matter who Sequ thinks should replace Pop, Pop has already proven that he is a great coach. I mean, how many other coaches have 3 rings in NBA history?
So bitching about Pop is just picking at random straws. We can second guess him until hell freezes over, but talking about firing him is a bit desperate on your part.
how many coaches would've lost to dallas last year w/ the spurs lineup? how many would lose four straight to the lakers after being up 2 games to 0? how many coaches, with the spurs lineup, would continuously go through playoff series without making any adjustments (other than stupid lineup changes)? how many coaches would let the other team dictate the style of play even though that was a style never used throughout the regular season?
popovich is a hack who gets by thanks to teams loaded w/ talent. and he still loses a lot more than a team with the lineup he's had for the past 7 years should.
SequSpur
12-28-2006, 07:40 PM
how many coaches would've lost to dallas last year w/ the spurs lineup? how many would lose four straight to the lakers after being up 2 games to 0? how many coaches, with the spurs lineup, would continuously go through playoff series without making any adjustments (other than stupid lineup changes)? how many coaches would let the other team dictate the style of play even though that was a style never used throughout the regular season?
popovich is a hack who gets by thanks to teams loaded w/ talent. and he still loses a lot more than a team with the lineup he's had for the past 7 years should.
FukinA!
:clap :clap :clap
:toast
T Park
12-28-2006, 11:10 PM
Tpark, eat shit... Pop's mom could coach better than this.
Thats sequ for,
"Im an idiot, I have no clue what Im talking about, my toilet paper has more brain matter than me"
how many coaches would've lost to dallas last year w/ the spurs lineup? how many would lose four straight to the lakers after being up 2 games to 0? how many coaches, with the spurs lineup, would continuously go through playoff series without making any adjustments (other than stupid lineup changes)? how many coaches would let the other team dictate the style of play even though that was a style never used throughout the regular season?
popovich is a hack who gets by thanks to teams loaded w/ talent. and he still loses a lot more than a team with the lineup he's had for the past 7 years should.
Name a coach thats available thats better.
You can't.
Pop is considered around the LEAGUE.
Not here, THE LEAGUE, as a great coach.
So fire someone who is considered a great coach, for, WHO.
Come on smart asses, start naming names.
Im still waiting.
Viva Las Espuelas
12-28-2006, 11:12 PM
there should be a seperate forum for these fairweather fan posts. call it "Dallas Grown".
dknights411
12-28-2006, 11:57 PM
how many coaches would've lost to dallas last year w/ the spurs lineup? how many would lose four straight to the lakers after being up 2 games to 0? how many coaches, with the spurs lineup, would continuously go through playoff series without making any adjustments (other than stupid lineup changes)? how many coaches would let the other team dictate the style of play even though that was a style never used throughout the regular season?
popovich is a hack who gets by thanks to teams loaded w/ talent. and he still loses a lot more than a team with the lineup he's had for the past 7 years should.
Does anyone even remember that we came back from 3-1 in the first place, AFTER we switched to small ball? :wtf
Calling out Pop for changing the line up like that (and almost puilling it off anyway) isn't enough in my book to call for his head. You really need to chill. :fro
Solid D
12-29-2006, 12:05 AM
Meanwhile, Pop and the Spurs just owned and outrebounded a 21-8 Utah team coached by Legendary Coach Jerry Sloan.
bringBAKElie
12-29-2006, 12:22 AM
the fact that in all three championship seasons we were in the top three in field goal % defense and have not been out of the top 10 in ten years or so is a testament to Pops coaching ability, not to mention in '99 we set the all time record
ChumpDumper
12-29-2006, 02:44 AM
Meanwhile, Pop and the Spurs just owned and outrebounded a 21-8 Utah team coached by Legendary Coach Jerry Sloan.:lol
Wait til the next loss. The bitch will be back.
polandprzem
12-29-2006, 02:53 AM
Well those childish argues started by sequ are ...
wildbill2u
12-29-2006, 12:47 PM
We are all mystified sometimes by Pop's use of his personnel. Sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't.
But if you look at the half-full glass, it takes a coach with great confidence in his ability and originalism to try these things. Most coaches are pretty set in their ways. They pick the best seven players and play them in a fixed rotation. If the team loses, it's clearly the fault of the players because the coach put the best on the court. Pop is always experimenting to see what works.
I can argue the other side as well.
zeleni
12-29-2006, 12:54 PM
larry brown
but popovich is not that bad.
kskonn
12-29-2006, 01:42 PM
larry brown
but popovich is not that bad.
been there done that.
Big P
12-29-2006, 01:47 PM
Best record in the league until last night when Dallas beat Phoenix...lets make a trade for the hell of it. Who cares about getting better, lets just make a change.... lame.
SequSpur, your posts are terrible, your comebacks obsolete, I think you should change your philosophy on posting.
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