A Step In The Right Direction

[Walton Buys Off Me]

I'm proud of my team tonight. They fought back from 17 down in the second half and showed more heart than they've shown all year. We got beat by the zebras, not the opposition.

This is the building block we needed to get things going.

Props to the squad, most notably Manu and Tim.

Walton

[SequSpur]

Tony Parker.

[KB24]

I'm proud of my team tonight. They fought back from 17 down in the second half and showed more heart than they've shown all year. We got beat by the zebras, not the opposition.

This is the building block we needed to get things going.

Props to the squad, most notably Manu and Tim.

Walton

:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol

[Sam]

Tony Parker doing for months now. Where's Manu and Tim been last couple games?

[Walton Buys Off Me]

Parker was good, I've got no problem with his game but Manu and Tim were awesome down the stretch.

[smeagol]

Manu did not play well again. He did step it up in the 4th Q and beyond, though.

[Kori Ellis]

They did a good job getting back in. But they should have never let the T'Wolves get up by so much. I'm neither proud, nor overly disappointed. :lol

[Amuseddaysleeper]

uhhh
we lost to a sub .500

made some brilliant mistakes down the stretch that a veteran team shouldn't be making


and our coach is getting worse by the week

It was nice to see them rally, but we shouldn't have been in this position in the first place, back to back or not


I only hope we get a win against DAL on friday to get some kind of silver lining going or else we're gonna barely get a #4 seed at the rate we're playing and a swift 2nd rd exit

[Obstructed_View]

I agree with Walton. Congratulations to the Spurs on this overtime loss to a team with a .500 record!

[Kori Ellis]

Did anyone else notice how pale white Ginobili is and how sunken in, black his eyes are?

If he's not sick, he's a vampire who saw the light of day.

[DubMcDub]

I'm proud of my team tonight. They fought back from 17 down in the second half and showed more heart than they've shown all year. We got beat by the zebras, not the opposition.

This is the building block we needed to get things going.

Props to the squad, most notably Manu and Tim.

Walton

Yeah, this one's really on the refs. :rolleyes

[ShoogarBear]

They did a good job getting back in. But they should have never let the T'Wolves get up by so much. I'm neither proud, nor overly disappointed. :lolI tend to agree. I didn't see the first half, but wasn't impressed by the third.

Mark fricking Blount? :bang (even though he has been playing well recently)

[Leetonidas]

I still don't understand why there was a double technical. Should've just been a T on Davis.

[Kori Ellis]

Mark fricking Blount? (even though he has been playing well recently)

Isn't this the second or third time he's owned the Spurs?

[timvp]

I don't think this was a bad loss. You need these close games to build playoff mettle. The season is still early.

The Spurs competed and responded with a ton of defensive stops. If Mark Blount is going to beat you hitting jumpers off the dribble, so be it.

Only thing that pissed me off was the lack of effort in trying to foul at the end of the game.

[Leetonidas]

I don't think this was a bad loss. You need these close games to build playoff mettle. The season is still early.

The Spurs competed and responded with a ton of defensive stops. If Mark Blount is going to beat you hitting jumpers off the dribble, so be it.

Only thing that pissed me off was the lack of effort in trying to foul at the end of the game.

:tu I agree.

Although I do believe Tony fouled Hassel and it wasn't called. :pctoss

[1Parker1]

The Spurs biggest problem is that outside of Parker, Manu, and Duncan they aren't getting much help from anyone else. Bonner has been giving them 10 and 5 a night and helping a little, but guys like Oberto, Finley, Barry, Horry, and Bowen are not doing much offensively out there.

[Amuseddaysleeper]

I don't think this was a bad loss. You need these close games to build playoff mettle. The season is still early.

The Spurs competed and responded with a ton of defensive stops. If Mark Blount is going to beat you hitting jumpers off the dribble, so be it.

Only thing that pissed me off was the lack of effort in trying to foul at the end of the game.


but Timvp come on man

this is a VETERAN team

sure, elson is out, and we have some new faces, but not fouling in OT, giving it to bonner in crunch time (as much as you approved of that play)


This is like last season all over again except worse

People time and time again said "its early, Spurs will peak in march....then april.....then may.......then a 2nd rd exit to a team that just never got it going despite Duncan's foot problems

This year we have no excuses

This team plays like an inexperienced JV team sometimes with the basic fundamentals of basketball going right over their heads (Oberto, learn how to BOX OUT)

And prior to this year I almost never gave Pop shit for anything, but I honestly would soundly approve of Pop sitting the next few weeks out in favor of PJ

yes, it's finally come to that

[1Parker1]

I bet these losses will be forgotten once the Spurs beat the Mavs Friday...:lol

[ShoogarBear]

Isn't this the second or third time he's owned the Spurs?I recall some good games (I think he had another ridiculous shooting night the first game).

But the Minny announcers said that going into this game he was lifetime 1-16 vs. the Spurs (remember he played for the Celtics).

[Kori Ellis]

And prior to this year I almost never gave Pop shit for anything, but I honestly would soundly approve of Pop sitting the next few weeks out in favor of PJ

yes, it's finally come to that

PJ sucks.

I'd take Mike Bud over PJ. (But neither of them over Pop)

[Amuseddaysleeper]

The Spurs biggest problem is that outside of Parker, Manu, and Duncan they aren't getting much help from anyone else. Bonner has been giving them 10 and 5 a night and helping a little, but guys like Oberto, Finley, Barry, Horry, and Bowen are not doing much offensively out there.


you know it's sad when spurs fans REJOICE when manu has a decent game


only TP and TD play decent (and even TD has given up on this season at times it feels like)


anyone else playing well for a game has become a bonus

[bigfundamental21]

I don't think this was a bad loss. You need these close games to build playoff mettle. The season is still early.

The Spurs competed and responded with a ton of defensive stops. If Mark Blount is going to beat you hitting jumpers off the dribble, so be it.

Only thing that pissed me off was the lack of effort in trying to foul at the end of the game.


Not only lack of effort on the foul but the whole overtime period. It was like we were playing with no fire. We fought back in regulation only to let them jump out to the lead, make turnovers, and not go after rebounds. The refs sucked too, but that is not an excuse.

:ihit

[Amuseddaysleeper]

PJ sucks.

I'd take Mike Bud over PJ. (But neither of them over Pop)

You're probably right, and I'm just venting, but can anyone remember a year where Pop's coaching has been THIS frustrating?

I'm not even trying to point fingers but my god

[Kori Ellis]

I recall some good games (I think he had another ridiculous shooting night the first game).

But the Minny announcers said that going into this game he was lifetime 1-16 vs. the Spurs (remember he played for the Celtics).

I'm talking about just his shooting (not that he won). I thought I recalled two past times when he was 8-for-8 or something in the midst of games against the Spurs.

[ducks]

this was on a back to back
spur players are sick and tired
to fight back yes awesome

[ShoogarBear]

Dec 13: Blount 19 pts (8 for 13), 8 rebs, 2 steals and a block.

[BERSERK]

but Timvp come on man

this is a VETERAN team

sure, elson is out, and we have some new faces, but not fouling in OT, giving it to bonner in crunch time (as much as you approved of that play)


This is like last season all over again except worse

People time and time again said "its early, Spurs will peak in march....then april.....then may.......then a 2nd rd exit to a team that just never got it going despite Duncan's foot problems

This year we have no excuses

This team plays like an inexperienced JV team sometimes with the basic fundamentals of basketball going right over their heads (Oberto, learn how to BOX OUT)

And prior to this year I almost never gave Pop shit for anything, but I honestly would soundly approve of Pop sitting the next few weeks out in favor of PJ

yes, it's finally come to that

Finally someone tells it like it is! Ditch the rose colored glasses, people! :pctoss

[bigfundamental21]

I bet these losses will be forgotten once the Spurs beat the Mavs Friday...:lol


Friday is now more important than just beating the Mavs. We need a W.

[timvp]

but Timvp come on man

this is a VETERAN team

sure, elson is out, and we have some new faces, but not fouling in OT, giving it to bonner in crunch time (as much as you approved of that play)


This is like last season all over again except worse

People time and time again said "its early, Spurs will peak in march....then april.....then may.......then a 2nd rd exit to a team that just never got it going despite Duncan's foot problems

This year we have no excuses

This team plays like an inexperienced JV team sometimes with the basic fundamentals of basketball going right over their heads (Oberto, learn how to BOX OUT)

And prior to this year I almost never gave Pop shit for anything, but I honestly would soundly approve of Pop sitting the next few weeks out in favor of PJ

yes, it's finally come to that


Damn, Spurs fans are classic :lol

The Spurs played damn well from the time they were down 17 to catch all the way back up. They turn the ball over four times for the game and come up with repeated great stops and Spurs fans act as if they just watched a 25 turnovers nightmare.

Sitting Pop in favor of PJ? Is this the same PJ who drew up a play involving two passes with under four seconds to go and the Spurs down by four last game? :lmao

[Leetonidas]

I would take these two losses and us administering an ass kicking against the Mavs than two blowouts and getting owned by them.

[SPURS vs NBA media]

I bet these losses will be forgotten once the Spurs beat the Mavs Friday...:lol

SPURS BEAT THE mavs BY 20 ON FRIDAY

[jbspurs]

I don't think this was a bad loss. You need these close games to build playoff mettle. The season is still early.

The Spurs competed and responded with a ton of defensive stops. If Mark Blount is going to beat you hitting jumpers off the dribble, so be it.

Only thing that pissed me off was the lack of effort in trying to foul at the end of the game.

I agree, this might be the wake up call for them and pretty sure Pop thrilled right now!lol

[Leetonidas]

I agree, this might be the wake up call for them and pretty sure Pop thrilled right now!lol
I disagree with that. The Spurs have had plenty of wake up calls. They don't need anymore. They just need to start playing better basketball.

[Amuseddaysleeper]

haha fine fine, the PJ bit was a bit much

but the scary thing is we only turn the ball over 4 times and still lost.....to a sub .500 team

This is the worst team the Spurs have had in a long long time

All I know is that Pop isn't getting it done, and before he goes off on his team he needs to stop and think about his substitutions, b/c while the losses shouldn't be completely blamed on Pop, he's the coach, and it's up to him to set the ship right followed by TD

Right now he's just as clueless with what to do with his players as they are tyring to figure out how to play good defense for 48 minutes


I hope in March I can look back at these posts and laugh (much like some of my posts in 2005) but it's one thing to be in a slump

but it's another to look like this team has no semblence of how to play ball

We're going for a championship and dropping games to sub .500 teams?

We've lost before to .500 teams but not at a time where we could use the momentum more than ever

[Amuseddaysleeper]

and yes

a win over the mavs friday would probably shut all of us pessimistic fools up!


at least I know we won't face minny come playoff time (and if we did I wouldn't be worried but I'm just saying)

[Tek_XX]

Can you moral victory your way to a championship?

If we lose to Dallas that would be three in a row, that says we got issues that need to be addressed

[Budkin]

The Spurs haven't lost 3 in a row in some time and they won't be doing it at the hands of the Mavs.

[DubMcDub]

The Spurs haven't lost 3 in a row in some time and they won't be doing it at the hands of the Mavs.

Except in the playoffs last year. To the Mavs.

But I guess playoff losses don't count.

[Amuseddaysleeper]

Except in the playoffs last year. To the Mavs.

But I guess playoff losses don't count.


you guys had a 4 game L streak

so its good to see we're all in the same boat when it comes to losing streaks and playoff runs

[Tek_XX]

Except in the playoffs last year. To the Mavs.

But I guess playoff losses don't count.

where's your trophy?

[Amuseddaysleeper]

where's your trophy?


the tainted 3 point trophy Dirk got at the all star game?


probably sitting next to his Finals MV......oh

[DubMcDub]

you guys had a 4 game L streak

so its good to see we're all in the same boat when it comes to losing streaks and playoff runs

1) Spurs fan makes a factually incorrect statement, citing that statement as evidence that the Spurs will not lose Friday
2) Mavs fan points out error
3) Flustered Spurs fans divert attention from the issue at hand by addressing something completely irrelevant to the topic at hand.

Yep. Sounds about right.

[Tek_XX]

It's so easy to slap down the Mavs fans that come in here.

[Tek_XX]

1) Spurs fan makes a factually incorrect statement, citing that statement as evidence that the Spurs will not lose Friday
2) Mavs fan points out error
3) Flustered Spurs fans divert attention from the issue at hand by addressing something completely irrelevant to the topic at hand.

Yep. Sounds about right.

when's the parade?

[DubMcDub]

It's so easy to slap down the Mavs fans that come in here.

:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol

[Kori Ellis]

Smack talk needs to be moved to the thread at the top of the forum. Thanks.

[DubMcDub]

Smack talk needs to be moved to the thread at the top of the forum. Thanks.

Apologies.

[Russ]

I don't think this was a bad loss. You need these close games to build playoff mettle. The season is still early.

The Spurs competed and responded with a ton of defensive stops. If Mark Blount is going to beat you hitting jumpers off the dribble, so be it.

Only thing that pissed me off was the lack of effort in trying to foul at the end of the game.

That's right. The season is still early. It seems that when the Spurs don't come through some pain during the season, they don't have it in the playoffs.

The Dallas fans are still crowing -- they don't yet realize that Dallas '06 is Sacramento '02 . . . and the future will unfold thusly for the never to be crowned.

[T Park]

Ya know, this is the second third maybe fourt or fifth time, this team has come from way behind to win, or force overtime.


Theres one thing you can say about this team, it has a never say die attitude.

They had that in 02 03. Not really in 04 05.

02 03 if you remember they came from behind on big leads against New Jersey and Dallas to win clutch games.

BIG leads.


Duncan looked like Duncan.

Ginobili finally pulled his head out of his butt.

Bonner is still bringing that Malik like intensity but is knocking down threes.

This team is starting to shape up better, even though its in a bit of a funk.

BTW,

Brent Barry, what in tarnation is wrong with you again.

[Budkin]

Can we combine the first three quarters last night with the fourth from tonight for at least one win?

If they would just play with consistent intensity they could stomp anyone. We better fucking win on Friday. :grim:

[SequSpur]

now bonner is malik... omfg... :rolleyes

[Amuseddaysleeper]

Ya know, this is the second third maybe fourt or fifth time, this team has come from way behind to win, or force overtime.


Theres one thing you can say about this team, it has a never say die attitude.

They had that in 02 03. Not really in 04 05.

02 03 if you remember they came from behind on big leads against New Jersey and Dallas to win clutch games.

BIG leads.


Duncan looked like Duncan.

Ginobili finally pulled his head out of his butt.

Bonner is still bringing that Malik like intensity but is knocking down threes.

This team is starting to shape up better, even though its in a bit of a funk.

BTW,

Brent Barry, what in tarnation is wrong with you again.


uhhh a never die atittiude?

his team is dying left, right, and center

in 04-05 we had that fantastic come from behind win over phoenix in OT that was one of the best regular season Spurs games of the decade

Every championship season, we have a few games that we come away from knowing we either shouldn't have won, but somehow dug down deep inside and pulled out the W

A win that brings everyone closer together and the team and is momentum changer for the season

We never ever had that type of game last year (though that one miami win when manu went down was nice)

And it's way too early to complain about not having that special game this year, but giving up 38 points in the 4th quarter is more of a "lay down and die" attitude as oppose to a "never say die" attitude

We have our work cut out for us this season

The mavs game this friday is the perfect opportunity for a big turnaround and to reel off a nice win streak like our rivals have

[T Park]

Ya know amused.

Your concerns are unheard, because you bitch about shit that has been discounted and proved wrong.

So be quiet.

[T Park]

in 04-05 we had that fantastic come from behind win over phoenix in OT that was one of the best regular season Spurs games of the decade

Every championship season, we have a few games that we come away from knowing we either shouldn't have won, but somehow dug down deep inside and pulled out the W



Minnesota middle of December.

Houston end of November.


Thats two wins right there.


Sit back down son.

[Amuseddaysleeper]

Ya know amused.

Your concerns are unheard, because you bitch about shit that has been discounted and proved wrong.

So be quiet.


how have I been discounted or proved wrong in regards to this argument?


granted, my bitching may grow tiresome as it does after each loss, but this team this season has anything but a "never say die" attitude


yes, the 02-03 team gave up a lot of big leads, but they still played superbly in the long run

This team hasn't shown us anything that they are ready to even be worthy of a decent playoff contender let alone a champion for THIS season

It's only January, but their play is rather disheartening

As nice as the rally was, at the end of the day, it's a sub .500 team, and when duncan and manu get over 24 points each and you committ only 4 turnovers and STILL find a way to give away the game, well then, your team has problems

[Amuseddaysleeper]

Minnesota middle of December.

Houston end of November.


Thats two wins right there.


Sit back down son.


no no, the houston win was nice, but it did nothing for us in the long run

look where we are


the phoenix win was huge b/c it gave us the psychological edge over the team before the playoffs even began


the houston win was just a bright spot amidst an unsettling slump

the minny game was a 2nd half surge against a sub .500 ball club

if it was against dallas or phoenix it'd be special

otherwise, it's a win we should've gotten on our HOME floor regardless


I rest my case

[T Park]

at the end of the day, it's a sub .500 team, and when duncan and manu get over 24 points each and you committ only 4 turnovers and STILL find a way to give away the game, well then, your team has problems

So the team has problems, when a guy like Mark Blount can't miss a shot, and you lose by 2 in OT?


Soak your damn head.

[Amuseddaysleeper]

So the team has problems, when a guy like Mark Blount can't miss a shot, and you lose by 2 in OT?


Soak your damn head.



ok, that's all I'm saying

the team has problems

big problems

glad we're on the same page

[T Park]

no no, the houston win was nice, but it did nothing for us in the long run

look where we are


the phoenix win was huge b/c it gave us the psychological edge over the team before the playoffs even began


the houston win was just a bright spot amidst an unsettling slump

the minny game was a 2nd half surge against a sub .500 ball club

if it was against dallas or phoenix it'd be special

otherwise, it's a win we should've gotten on our HOME floor regardless


I rest my case

So you twist the bullshit to suit your bullshit ideas.

Typical

[T Park]

ok, that's all I'm saying

the team has problems

big problems

glad we're on the same page

The team doesn't have big problems numbskull.

Whena guy like Mark Blount, CANNOT MISS.

I mean plays out of his MIND. CANT MISS.

And you lose by only two, when Garnett has 27 and 17?

Yes, thats a good thing.

Sorry that it doesnt suit your bullshit woe is me were horrible stupid ass attitude.

[Amuseddaysleeper]

The team doesn't have big problems numbskull.

Whena guy like Mark Blount, CANNOT MISS.

I mean plays out of his MIND. CANT MISS.

And you lose by only two, when Garnett has 27 and 17?

Yes, thats a good thing.

Sorry that it doesnt suit your bullshit woe is me were horrible stupid ass attitude.


garnett getting 27-17 shouldn't be a surprise

granted, blunt was unexpected, but when you set an NBA season record for fewest turnovers with 4, you shouldn't lose by 1,2 or 20 o a sub 500 team

manu had 26 and td had 24 and TP had 19

so the big 3 showed up

that should be more than enough to negate blount's torrid shooting

yet we walk away with b2b losses and looking completely lost for friday's big game against the Mavs

[xamila rey]

Did anyone else notice how pale white Ginobili is and how sunken in, black his eyes are?

If he's not sick, he's a vampire who saw the light of day.

I told the same thing to my dad

[lefty]

I'm proud of my team tonight. They fought back from 17 down in the second half and showed more heart than they've shown all year. We got beat by the zebras, not the opposition.

This is the building block we needed to get things going.

Props to the squad, most notably Manu and Tim.

Walton]

If we started the game well, we shouldn't have had to fight back ; remember last time we played Dallas (or the famous game 7 too), we started super slowly, fought back but lost?
I don't think this is a step to the right direction

[phxspurfan]

Did anyone else notice how pale white Ginobili is and how sunken in, black his eyes are?

If he's not sick, he's a vampire who saw the light of day.


we're making too many excuses for our guys (not that this is one, just brought the concept to my mind). Jordan dominated while playing with the flu. Nowitzki routinely plays on rubber ankles. Shaq dominated with his plantar fascitis. Some guy in the NFL played with a broken leg for X sake.

[Kori Ellis]

we're making too many excuses for our guys (not that this is one, just brought the concept to my mind). Jordan dominated while playing with the flu. Nowitzki routinely plays on rubber ankles. Shaq dominated with his plantar fascitis. Some guy in the NFL played with a broken leg for X sake.

:lol



I was just asking if anyone noticed he looked like a vampire.

[slayermin]

I just can't get too low or too high from any one regular season game. All I ask from the basketball gods is a healthy team going into the playoffs and a decent seed.

[phxspurfan]

i got some decent seed for you

[MannyIsGod]

Ya know, this is the second third maybe fourt or fifth time, this team has come from way behind to win, or force overtime.


Theres one thing you can say about this team, it has a never say die attitude.

They had that in 02 03. Not really in 04 05.

02 03 if you remember they came from behind on big leads against New Jersey and Dallas to win clutch games.

BIG leads.


Duncan looked like Duncan.

Ginobili finally pulled his head out of his butt.

Bonner is still bringing that Malik like intensity but is knocking down threes.

This team is starting to shape up better, even though its in a bit of a funk.

BTW,

Brent Barry, what in tarnation is wrong with you again.hahahhahahahahahahahhahahahahahahaha

Never say die?

Sure, AFTER they dig their holes first.

If there is one thing you can say about this team is they don't show up on a regular basis.

[slayermin]

i got some decent seed for you

Meet me at the Wildclub on Friday. Make sure you wear shorts.

[Viva Las Espuelas]

Tony Parker doing for months now. Where's Manu and Tim been last couple games?my question is where has bowen been all year. i'm in _allas so i can't watch all the games. i haven't heard any buzz about him.

[carina_gino20]

Did anyone else notice how pale white Ginobili is and how sunken in, black his eyes are?

If he's not sick, he's a vampire who saw the light of day.

:lol he did look pale out there and mighty pissed off late in the game.

just some q's: how come manu seldom touched the ball in OT? why didn't they foul when they were just two down?

i was disappointed with the Spurs tonight. there were some questionable calls both ways down the stretch but wth do you expect from the zebras? they never should've let themselves be placed in that position. props to tony for keeping us afloat in the 3rd when they were threatening to pull away, to tim for digging us out of the hole, to manu for the intangibles during the 4th.

[George Gervin's Afro]

Man this is the first loss all season that I don't feel terrible about. I saw defensive intensity tonight in the second half..what a beautiful sight!!

[T Park]

Im glad someone else saw that too.

I just don't understand the getting depressed over early season games.

Why do people let this happen to themselves :lol

[boutons_]

"Did anyone else notice how pale white Ginobili is"

At one point, I noticed just the opposite, that his shoulders and back were flushed, over-heated, like he has just come out of a sauna. or long, very hot shower, or ran a 1500 m race in 90F temp. Was Target Center over-heated at court level?

The two observations together, no coloring / too much color, suggest he's really not in good shape, is still very weakened from his sickness.

[sribb43]

I dont understand how a team can lose, especially the caliber of the spurs, when only committing 4 turnovers

[polandprzem]

Im glad someone else saw that too.

I just don't understand the getting depressed over early season games.

Why do people let this happen to themselves :lol

Comback in April when EXCACTLY the same threads will be on that board. Let see what you gonna say.
Cause EXCACLY the same threads were a year ago.

Thank you

[1Parker1]

I don't know. While I can agree with Timvp and Walton to a certain extent...that these games are good in a way and showed that the Spurs can stay in tough games with the chance to pull out a win, I also think these past couple of games showed a LOT of the Spurs weaknesses which if they aren't changed, will yet again result in an exit from the playoffs against the Mavs or Suns.

Oberto has proven that he cannot be much of a help out there against the bigger, tougher teams. I don't like Oberto against teams like the Mavs, Jazz, Suns, and Rockets in the playoffs. Yes he plays better defense than Elson, but he's proven to be too small to make much of a difference in the middle. Hence, Spurs would essentially have the same problem they did last season against the Mavs where guys like Jason Terry, Dirk, and Harris own the paint against us. Also, the last play of the game where the Spurs failed to grab a rebound, specifically Finley, shows that we're still relying on small ball but our personell still doesn't fit it. Lastly, our bench which I believe was a huge reason we lost the Mavs series is way too inconsistent and not productive. Horry, Barry, Oberto, Bruce, etc. all have to step up their games offensively for the Spurs to have a chance. We can just have 3 guys doing ALL the scoring.

The Spurs are still going to end up winning 50+ games, Tim Duncan, Tony Parker, Manu Ginobili are too good to not win that many. But the lineups and team we have now is not going to cut it in the playoffs. Spurs lack of an athletic swingman and Center is becoming more and more evident.

[boutons_]

"he Spurs are still going to end up winning 50+ games"

Great, another fan with low standards.

[Walton Buys Off Me]

I don't know. While I can agree with Timvp and Walton to a certain extent...that these games are good in a way and showed that the Spurs can stay in tough games with the chance to pull out a win, I also think these past couple of games showed a LOT of the Spurs weaknesses which if they aren't changed, will yet again result in an exit from the playoffs against the Mavs or Suns.

Oberto has proven that he cannot be much of a help out there against the bigger, tougher teams. I don't like Oberto against teams like the Mavs, Jazz, Suns, and Rockets in the playoffs. Yes he plays better defense than Elson, but he's proven to be too small to make much of a difference in the middle. Hence, Spurs would essentially have the same problem they did last season against the Mavs where guys like Jason Terry, Dirk, and Harris own the paint against us. Also, the last play of the game where the Spurs failed to grab a rebound, specifically Finley, shows that we're still relying on small ball but our personell still doesn't fit it. Lastly, our bench which I believe was a huge reason we lost the Mavs series is way too inconsistent and not productive. Horry, Barry, Oberto, Bruce, etc. all have to step up their games offensively for the Spurs to have a chance. We can just have 3 guys doing ALL the scoring.

The Spurs are still going to end up winning 50+ games, Tim Duncan, Tony Parker, Manu Ginobili are too good to not win that many. But the lineups and team we have now is not going to cut it in the playoffs. Spurs lack of an athletic swingman and Center is becoming more and more evident.

I completely agree and by no means do I consider the Spurs a Title contender at this point. I was simply pointing out that it was nice to see they cared down the stretch for a change.

[George Gervin's Afro]

Not a title contender at this point. We all have seen championship teams and this one ain't it right now. However if my memeory serves me correctly we went through rough stretches in the first half of every championship season.. The non championship seasons I don't remember rough stretches like we are having now..

[1Parker1]

Not a title contender at this point. We all have seen championship teams and this one ain't it right now. However if my memeory serves me correctly we went through rough stretches in the first half of every championship season.. The non championship seasons I don't remember rough stretches like we are having now..

I know Spurs always go through these early stretches where they struggle, losing to sub .500 teams. They do it every season. I'm not worried about them losing to these teams. I'm worried about what it's exposing about the Spurs and their weaknesses. I just don't think that with the team they have now, they have the ability to beat the Mavs or even the Suns in a 7 game series.

[1Parker1]

"he Spurs are still going to end up winning 50+ games"

Great, another fan with low standards.


Sigh, do you not read?! If you did you would know that I continued on to say that I don't think this team will be able to win it all.

[EVAY]

They did a good job getting back in. But they should have never let the T'Wolves get up by so much. I'm neither proud, nor overly disappointed. :lol


That's the same way I feel. We are, at best, inconsistent this year. Not only from game to game, but even within a game, like last night.