Francis?

[AFBlue]

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/story/487977p-410905c.html (http://)


Despite repeated denials, the Knicks and Francis have discussed a buyout, but neither side can agree on how much money it will take to make the veteran guard disappear.

A source familiar with the negotiations said that Francis, who is working out in Houston, might yet rejoin the team if a settlement is not reached, but that Francis and the Knicks both believe that a clean break would best serve both parties. The Knicks have little need for Francis because the Knicks are committed to Jamal Crawford as their shooting guard. Francis does not want to be a backup.

I know this thread might be a bit premature because IT is denying any buyout, but the rumors are persistent and Steve isn't with the team.

It is clear the Spurs have two problems; back up PG and rebounding. If Steve Francis, who has a home in nearby Houston, becomes available, would he be an answer to the Spurs back-up PG issue?

The Spurs could sign him for the pro-rated vet min, waive one of the other PG (vaughn), and use Williams' contract to address the other issue of rebounding (Ely?).

Good or bad idea? Possible or impossible?

[Mr. Body]

No. Please, no. The Webber threads were agony enough.

[AFBlue]

No. Please, no. The Webber threads were agony enough.

Sorry, man. Both threads are there for a reason. The Spurs have a need and Webber/Francis potentially fill that need. They just come with obvious risks and cost a roster spot.

[SequSpur]

Francis blows.

[Mr. Body]

I understand the desire for Webber. Francis is far too much a headcase.

[spurs_fan_in_exile]

He's been a malcontent his entire career. There hasn't been a single team that's ever been sorry to see him go.

Talent wise he would be a useful guy to have around. He's a pretty good ball handler and could be a go to scorer off the bench. I just doubt he'd be happy with that as his role. The Spurs don't really have anything to lose by taking a look at him but my gut says he's not going to land in San Antonio.

[Darkwaters]

Why in the world did the Knicks trade for him last season if they had no intent to either keep him or trade him? Isiah Thomas is an idiot.

[SAGambler]

No Stevie Franchise......

Please.....no Stevie Franchise.....

[Fabbs]

Francis and Bowen together in the 1st practice.
How is that one going to work out?

[spurs_fan_in_exile]

Francis and Bowen together in the 1st practice.
How is that one going to work out?

Could be just fine. Incredibly enough I don't know if Francis ever said a single thing about the incident.

[10-tka]

Welcome Steve

[The Truth #6]

I can't see him wanting to come off the bench. In fact, the article said he doesn't want to be a backup. Even if we wanted him (highly unlikely), he wouldn't want us.

[Borosai]

no

[cornbread]

Hell no.

[AFBlue]

I can't see him wanting to come off the bench. In fact, the article said he doesn't want to be a backup. Even if we wanted him (highly unlikely), he wouldn't want us.

Yeah I saw that, and though it gave me pause, I can see how it might be in context. He might not want to get paid $20M to be a back up on a horrible team, but if he were signed to the league min and knowing that he'd be playing to get a ring, he might be willing to work out his ego issue. Then again...you could be right.

I suppose he could satisfy both requirements in Miami....championship contender with PG issues.

[VaSpursFan]

as much as i hate stevie the wanna be franchise, he would be an upgrade over beno

[JPB]

Do we need another thread for Jalen Rose whoe contract probably gonna be bought out by the Suns. Would be the second time in the season for him.

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

A shiver just went down my spine.

[polayer1]

Francis does not want to be a backup.

That should answer your question about him joining the Spurs...

[Budkin]

Hell no! Francis is a cancer of the worst kind.

[wildbill2u]

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/story/487977p-410905c.html (http:///)

I know this thread might be a bit premature because IT is denying any buyout, but the rumors are persistent and Steve isn't with the team.

It is clear the Spurs have two problems; back up PG and rebounding. If Steve Francis, who has a home in nearby Houston, becomes available, would he be an answer to the Spurs back-up PG issue?

The Spurs could sign him for the pro-rated vet min, waive one of the other PG (vaughn), and use Williams' contract to address the other issue of rebounding (Ely?).

Good or bad idea? Possible or impossible?
Bad idea. The problem--aside from money and ego issues about starting--is that Stevie Franchise has always played the PG position as a shooting guard. I can't tell you how frustrated Houston coaches and fans were over the years while watching him dribble the ball for almost the entire 24 seconds and then heaving up a shot.

You don't want a PG with that mentality, especially off the bench. He'd be constantly trying to raise his point average at the expense of the team.

He has skills but no basketball sense of what it takes to be a pg.

[ManuTastic]

He has skills but no basketball sense of what it takes to be a pg.

I agree with that. Best case is he could come in for instant offense (as opposed to Beno's 'instant suckiness'), if--Big IF--he could agree to not starting that is, but forget any notion of 'running the team.'

Pass.

[AFBlue]

BUMP

Better Francis Thread!

[ArgSpursFan]

BUMP

Better Francis Thread!

mmmmmmmmmm....

don´t think so

but keep trying!!

[AFBlue]

Arg...take a second to look at the negative pulse in this thread though....seriously it's interesting noting the difference between this one and the one you started. Isn't it?

[Gummi]

Steve Francis is the last guy in the league I would want on the Spurs. No thanks.

[SenorSpur]

Why would anyone be interested in this guy?

[mardigan]

Anyone is better than Beno

[ArgSpursFan]

Arg...take a second to look at the negative pulse in this thread though....seriously it's interesting noting the difference between this one and the one you started. Isn't it?

I got you bro,but thats the way it is.When things go smooth they love everybody in the team but when results dont come,it all changes.But I have to say that I´ve got kicked out the spursreport.com forum cause I said the team was too old,and I didn´t like the way Pop was making the team play last season,and thats was at the beginin of this season,not just now

Peace

[ponky]

even i, a mavs fan, wouldn't wish steve francis on the spurs...the guy is a whiny, bitchy ball hog who thinks he's hot shit....and he's not

[ArgSpursFan]

Why would anyone be interested in this guy?

The spurs would,if they wanna be tittle contenders

[ponky]

The spurs would,if they wanna be tittle contenders

*tittle* this:
http://static.flickr.com/55/149032600_3e1348e72e_m.jpg

[AFBlue]

*tittle* this


OHHH...and the "original" thread pulls ahead!

[AFBlue]

C'mon peeps....I got $5 on the line with a buddy that says my thread gets more than Arg's

I'll split it with each poster evenly...I promise ;)

[ponky]

C'mon peeps....I got $5 on the line with a buddy that says my thread gets more than Arg's

I'll split it with each poster evenly...I promise ;)

alright, i'll help you out:

spurs should go for this guy
:p:

http://www.shamsports.com/images/amusing/cassellsnuts.jpg

[ArgSpursFan]

OHHH...and the "original" thread pulls ahead!


Well, good for you,I just want the spurs to get this guy,and I didn´t post the thread cause we lost to the lakers.I just think he can be usefull on the playoffs,cause Beno sucks and I still have some mixed fellings about Parker down the strech

[dg7md]

You guys need to realize we need to take a chance on this. The Spurs are not contenders anymore, I'm not saying Francis is the key, but he can be as explosive as anyone else in the league, that would be extremely helpful and make our offense more potent.

Interesting now isn't it? The Spurs major feature is their offense and 3 point shooting.

[Bob Lanier]

the guy is a whiny, bitchy ball hog who thinks he's hot shit....and he's not
http://kfba.net/etc/playerpics/162.jpg

[bigfundamental21]

we're not that desperate. He would only cause problems and be a ball hog.

[dallaskd]

:hang

please pick him up. lmao

[exstatic]

NY is considering buying him out because he's unhappy coming off the bench. Is any part of that reaching you fucktards?

[Pablo Escobar]

francis>beno

[exstatic]

my cat> beno, but she wouldn't improve the Spurs. Picking up Francis to replace Beno is selecting Cancer to replace AIDS. Neither one will do you any good.

[Pablo Escobar]

cancer can be cured

[IceColdBrewski]

we're not that desperate.

You obviously haven't been watching Spurs games lately.

[smeagol]

Jim should be out here defending his boy.

[FirebatMIV]

cancer can be cured

Steve Francis is not normal cancer. He's the malignant kind that infects your testicles. Hard to get rid-of and not at all pleasent.

[Please_dont_ban_me]

If he doesn't want to be a back up there, why would he want to be one here?

[Fillmoe]

francis is better than parker

[Please_dont_ban_me]

francis is better than parker

Marbury > Francis

Crawford > Francis

Parker > Francis



Francis > Udrih :clap

[Fillmoe]

crack babies with no arms > udrih

[dg7md]

Francis as our sixth man would be great.

[ArgSpursFan]

NY is considering buying him out because he's unhappy coming off the bench. Is any part of that reaching you fucktards?

Thats not the problem,he just can´t stand Starbary and Isiah Thomas,And personally I don´t blame him for that

[ArgSpursFan]

cancer can be cured


sad but true :depressed