Mavs @ Raptors

[themvp]

Is there anyone watching this game?

Go Rasho!

[dave]

i'm watching
rasho just blocked dirk, lol

[boutons_]

Tony Parker with a nice drive and spin move in the paint. :lol

[resistanze]

Raps kicking ass. It probably it won't last, but its nice to see them playing so good.

[dave]

raps by 10 after 1!!

[themvp]

Tony Parker with a nice drive and spin move in the paint. :lol

:rolleyes :hat

[dave]

40-27 raptors!!!

[boutons_]

calm down, the Mavs 2nd halves, and 4th qtrs, are much better than their first halves.

[resistanze]

I know that if the Raps don't have a double digit lead by the fourth quarter, they'll likely get roasted.

[1Parker1]

Mavs will clamp down in the 4th and pull away. :(

[1Parker1]

Tony Parker with a nice drive and spin move in the paint. :lol

:wtf :drunk??

[Condemned 2 HelLA]

I know that if the Raps don't have a double digit lead by the fourth quarter, they'll likely get roasted.

Even if they do have that big of a lead, they'll manage to find a way to come from ahead to piss the game right down the crapper.
I hope I'm wrong, but more than likely I won't be.

[resistanze]

Haha that was a sick dunk by Bosh.

[dave]

hooouge dunk by bosh

[resistanze]

Even if they do have that big of a lead, they'll manage to find a way to come from ahead to piss the game right down the crapper.
I hope I'm wrong, but more than likely I won't be.

I partly agree, I actually meant they only chance they have of winning requires some kind of double-digit lead going into the fourth.

Holy crap, Graham can't buy a call, 2 out of bounds gone against him and no loose ball foul.

[miss paxton]

calm down, the Mavs 2nd halves, and 4th qtrs, are much better than their first halves.

I agree that the Mavs' fourth quarters have been very strong, but I don't agree with you about the first halves of their games. They score a lot in the first quarters, from what I've seen.

[dave]

didn't dallas have a 20 point lead in the first quarter against the raptors last time?

dallas often plays their 1st quarters as hard as some teams play their 4ths

[LB7]

I agree that the Mavs' fourth quarters have been very strong, but I don't agree with you about the first halves of their games. They score a lot in the first quarters, from what I've seen.
That was true for a while, but for the last couple weeks, they have gotten off to some slow starts in the first quarters.

[LB7]

Mavs are also not good in afternoon games. In February last year in Toronto, we got down by 20+ in the first half. We came back to win in OT but the Mavs are not good during the day. Takes them a while to wake up.

[dave]

its weird how the raptors always seem to have 1:00 games at home
whats up with that?

[Texas_Ranger]

C'mon Toronto!

[1Parker1]

its weird how the raptors always seem to have 1:00 games at home
whats up with that?


Time differences/travel times?

[dave]

nice shot by dirk

[resistanze]

What a shot by Dirk. Raps better come ready for the 3rd Quarter Rush.

[boutons_]

Sure, when the Mavs come out hitting, their 1st q's are very often over 30 pts.

But I've seen many Mavs games like this one where the Mavs end up winning the 2nd half have much better than they lost the first half.

[dave]

i wanna see more croshere

[miss paxton]

That was true for a while, but for the last couple weeks, they have gotten off to some slow starts in the first quarters.

I just looked up their January games, and saw what I would consider two slow starts: 17 first quarter points against Indiana and 19, also against Indiana. Interesting. There were two 21-point first quarters--against the Spurs and Lakers. There was a 33 point first quarter against Seattle, a 26 point first quarter against Utah and a 22 point first quarter against Portland. With the exception of the Indy games, those are still pretty good starts.

[dave]

nice percentage by the raps, gotta keep it up
62.5% FG
85.7% 3PT

[miss paxton]

Sure, when the Mavs come out hitting, their 1st q's are very often over 30 pts.

But I've seen many Mavs games like this one where the Mavs end up winning the 2nd half have much better than they lost the first half.

I don't really understand your second sentence, but I think what you're saying is that the Mavs have played much better in the second half after "losing"--being outscored in--the first half. Right? And while I don't have any comparisons to say that's true, I'll agree with you that from my observation, the Mavs are much stronger in the fourth quarter than they've been in the past, and that it would be foolish to expect a fourth-quarter collapse.

[FlyHigh07]

This should be a good game.

[dave]

avery is pissed

[picnroll]

Never discount the fourth quarter Dirk factor.

No home cooking (http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070113/SPORTS04/701130491&theme=)

The Pacers were frustrated by several officials' calls in the second half. Replays showed they had a right to complain about a few of them.
O'Neal was called for a foul on a shot by Dirk Nowitzki just inside the 3-point line with 3:59 left in regulation. Replays indicated there was no contact.
Nowitzki hit both free throws, tying the score at 93.
An incensed O'Neal screamed, "I'm not a rookie!" at one of the referees after the call. He was still frustrated in the locker room afterward.
"I didn't touch him; didn't even touch him," O'Neal said. "It just kind of looked like (the referees) wanted them to win. I'd just appreciate it if they'd look at it both ways. We play hard, too. That's the most frustrating thing about it. We don't get any calls.
"Sometimes we get treated like we're not even a basketball team," he said. "It's absolutely ridiculous. We're basketball players, too."

[u2sarajevo]

we SUCK at noon games most of the time.

[dave]

aaw, fuck jason terry

[dave]

wtf, refs aren't calling anything, on either side

[resistanze]

I'll be proud if they just have the lead going into the fourth.

[RaptorsFan]

These refs are out of control. Bosh gets hacked 3 possessions in a row, no call on any of them. Garbajosa with an obvious foul on Nowitzki, no call. I think they've literally swallowed their whistles.

[resistanze]

Wow Bargnani roasted Dirk on O and D.

[dave]

where the fuck are the refs, stupid turds

[RaptorsFan]

This is getting nuts now. It's like the refs are scared to foul Dampier out of the game.

I like the way the Raps' big lineup is working on defense. The constant switching leaving a Bargnani, Bosh, Garbo or Rasho in the post at all times is making penetration impossible for the Mavs.

[resistanze]

Bosh ain't gettin' the star treatment :lol

[themvp]

Score?

[resistanze]

88-84 Raps 7:13

[resistanze]

Get Bosh back in.

[RaptorsFan]

Mitchell is going to lose this game for us. Why he would wait until the four and a half minute mark of the fourth to get Bosh and Ford back in the game is beyond me. Just absurd.

[Solid D]

This is the time of the game that Dallas starts really taking advantage of mismatches off the two-man game. They also draw a lot of and-1s at this juncture.

Raps fans had better hope they outscore the Mavs from here on in.

[Dirk Nowitzki]

Mavs will win this team knows how to comeback. You spurs fans are pathetic praying for a loss cuz your has been team being unable to do it! :spin

[Solid D]

Praying? How about cheering for the Raps? That's normal.

[resistanze]

and it's ova! :lol

[resistanze]

Wow Dirk will get ejected if he doesn't take care.

[Amuseddaysleeper]

what an amazing game

[picnroll]

Where's the T on Dirk?

[Dirk Nowitzki]

Ehhh its just getting dramatic. Mavs are due to win this game after yet another amazing comeback! You raptor fans might as well start to accept defeat so it wont hurt so much in the next half hour.

[Dirk Nowitzki]

Praying? How about cheering for the Raps? That's normal.

Due to your team no longer being a threat I can see why your cheering for the raptors. :blah

[resistanze]

You're a pesky troll, I'll give you that.

[Amuseddaysleeper]

ugh hit the effing FT parker

god damn

[resistanze]

Rookie mistake(s).

[Solid D]

key missed FT. Bosh hits his and believe it or not, Dirk misses. Wow.

[Amuseddaysleeper]

the shot selection by the raps has to be amongst the worst in the NBA

[Dirk Nowitzki]

Dirk is pissed watch out guys! This fucker is now determined to win this game!!! :elephant :elephant

[Condemned 2 HelLA]

Dirk is pissed watch out guys!

The staff in Toronto has already moved all stationary bikes from the tunnel and locker room.
No need to panic.

[resistanze]

?? That was a jump ball.

[Solid D]

Raps will need to hit every FT from now on in.

[Dirk Nowitzki]

Amazing the Mavs are going to fucking win this game. The fact that we have kept fighting is a sign of us not losing!!! :elephant :elephant God I love these fuckers!

[Leetonidas]

I take it the Raps are gonna keep fouling instead of letting the Mavs take a three?

I can only go with what the ESPN scoreboard is giving me.

[Leetonidas]

Amazing the Mavs are going to fucking win this game. The fact that we have kept fighting is a sign of us not losing!!! :elephant :elephant God I love these fuckers!
News flash: The Raptors suck ass.

[resistanze]

That foul was a block attempt.

[Amuseddaysleeper]

damn

i smell a mavs win

:(

[picnroll]

What Mav will foul the Raps with no call?

[Leetonidas]

If I were the Mavs, I wouldn't foul and just let the Raptors get a shot off and try to get the board because there is a 10 second differencial, right?

[resistanze]

Bosh BETTER win this jump ball.

[resistanze]

God they suck!

Mavs should win.

[Leetonidas]

Did the Raps miss? I see the Mavs down by 1 with 11 seconds. Who has the ball?

[Leetonidas]

6 seconds now. Mavs are gonna win.

[Dirk Nowitzki]

This game is ours! Mavs win! Mavs win! Mavs win!!!!

[Amuseddaysleeper]

wow

i dont how the raps keep their fans

how the F do you not keep possession of that jump ball

damn, i hope they can close this out

[resistanze]

Jump ball lead to another jump ball. Bosh won the tip but MAvs got the ball, 6.5 secs left, one point game.

[resistanze]

And they lose!

[Leetonidas]

Ouch. Mavs win

[1Parker1]

Told ya, Mavs would win. They've become a surprisingly good 4th quarter team...that's a big area of improvement from last season (See NBA Finals Collapse, particular Game 3 :))

[Leetonidas]

Less than a second left I take it?

[Dirk Nowitzki]

Mavs=best team in the leagues! Holy shit wow!!!!!! :elephant :elephant :elephant

[resistanze]

0.9 left, The Raps deserved to lose more than the Mavs deserved to win.

[themvp]

F*ck that!

[Amuseddaysleeper]

wow

if only that idiot parker hit the technical FT

[Leetonidas]

Bosh puts up 18 in the first half and only 6 in the second? That's pathetic.

[Dirk Nowitzki]

:downspin: :downspin: This is now a shitty day for Spurs fans lmfaooooooooo! Guys get used to it, YOU ARE NO LONGER AN ISSUE FOR THE MAVS ANYMORE SO GIVE IT UP!

[boutons_]

Mavs finished strong, again.

The Raps finished weak, like Raps. (TOs, missed FTs, defensive errors)

[NuGGeTs-FaN]

Mavs too good again.

[RaptorsFan]

Bosh puts up 18 in the first half and only 6 in the second? That's pathetic.
Did you even watch this game? Hard to score when you're driving to the hoop, getting hacked every time with no calls.

[Solid D]

:downspin: :downspin: This is now a shitty day for Spurs fans lmfaooooooooo! Guys get used to it, YOU ARE NO LONGER AN ISSUE FOR THE MAVS ANYMORE SO GIVE IT UP!

You probably don't even know how the Mavs scored.

[dave]

thats some shit defense right there

[Amuseddaysleeper]

I wish SA knew how to hit big shots down the stretch the way dallas has this year

if we were in Dallas's position during half those close games they won, we wouldn't have fared nearly as well

[Duncanoypi]

why is Dallas sooooo good right now?

[Dirk Nowitzki]

You probably don't even know how the Mavs scored.

Josh Howard with the bucket right under the basket after Bosh tried to block him! Nice try thought! :lol :lol

[ace3g]

Mavs=best team in the leagues! Holy shit wow!!!!!! :elephant :elephant :elephant


Dirk you do realize there is still 4 months to go in the NBA season, and its funny you still call the spurs has beens, yet the spurs typically play sub par until the rodeo road trip.

You better hope the mavs can keep up this level of play for 4 more months plus the playoffs

[NBA Junkie]

Bosh puts up 18 in the first half and only 6 in the second? That's pathetic.

Very KG like.

[Solid D]

Josh Howard with the bucket right under the basket after Bosh tried to block him! Nice try thought! :lol :lol

No, it was Josh Howard's grille shining in Bosh's eyes blinding him.

[RaptorsFan]

Josh Howard with the bucket right under the basket after Bosh tried to block him! Nice try thought! :lol :lol
More like a miscommunication on the defensive end causing two Raptors to follow Dirk, leaving Josh wide open. Not exactly a high difficulty shot.

[Dirk Nowitzki]

why is Dallas sooooo good right now?

Because they just are! They know how to win the close games now! BTW very sorry to hear about Bonner but it's not like he was going to help the Spurs become a threat to us again!

[dave]

the refs should shoot themselves for reffing the game so badly for both sides

[Dirk Nowitzki]

Dirk you do realize there is still 4 months to go in the NBA season, and its funny you still call the spurs has beens, yet the spurs typically play sub par until the rodeo road trip.

You better hope the mavs can keep up this level of play for 4 more months plus the playoffs

Your bench is utter shit and fucking old. You have no answer for Dirk and we own you badly in the coaching area! We control the boards and the tempo of the game. But hey you have the big 3 so that should be enough!! :drunk :drunk :drunk :drunk :rolleyes

[dave]

oh well, at least this win gives dallas a bigger lead over whoever is below them

[Solid D]

oh well, at least this win gives dallas a bigger lead over whoever is below them

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[TheMulvany]

I love the spurs fans in here blaming it on the refs when they're not even watching the game. Bosh pretty much shot freethrows everytime he touched the ball.

Dallas freethrows - 17/19
Toronto freethrows - 21/24

Dirk freethrows - 7/9
Bosh freethrows - 10/12

And you're saying the Raptors didn't get any calls? You're all pathetic. Keep fearing the Mavs. Your season is over. Now go cry to a mod.

wah wah wah wah wah wah wah wah wah! crying about the refs when you're a Spurs fan. Hilarious. Duncan got 40 freethrows per game against the Mavs in the playoffs last year. Keep crying, third seed.

[sribb43]

Did you even watch this game? Hard to score when you're driving to the hoop, getting hacked every time with no calls.

It went both ways in the 4th there was obvious contact both ways driving to the goal, dirks dunk on Bargnani was as foul, bosh didnt get some, etc. The refs let both teams play in the 4th quarter, It wasnt the refs down the stretch it was Mavs stepping it up and the Raptors not knowing how to close out. Parker missed FT and Bargnani shooting that ill-advise 3 that clanked of the side of the rim, poor execution offensivley and defensively on their part

[dave]

I love the spurs fans in here blaming it on the refs when they're not even watching the game. Bosh pretty much shot freethrows everytime he touched the ball.

Dallas freethrows - 17/19
Toronto freethrows - 21/24

Dirk freethrows - 7/9
Bosh freethrows - 10/12

And you're saying the Raptors didn't get any calls? You're all pathetic. Keep fearing the Mavs. Your season is over. Now go cry to a mod.

wah wah wah wah wah wah wah wah wah! crying about the refs when you're a Spurs fan. Hilarious. Duncan got 40 freethrows per game against the Mavs in the playoffs last year. Keep crying, third seed.


the crap calls went for both sides

[RaptorsFan]

I love the spurs fans in here blaming it on the refs when they're not even watching the game. Bosh pretty much shot freethrows everytime he touched the ball.

Dallas freethrows - 17/19
Toronto freethrows - 21/24

Dirk freethrows - 7/9
Bosh freethrows - 10/12

And you're saying the Raptors didn't get any calls? You're all pathetic. Keep fearing the Mavs. Your season is over. Now go cry to a mod.

wah wah wah wah wah wah wah wah wah! crying about the refs when you're a Spurs fan. Hilarious. Duncan got 40 freethrows per game against the Mavs in the playoffs last year. Keep crying, third seed.Were you taking a nap during the third quarter? There was a sequence during the third quarter right before Bosh got T'd up where he was obviously hacked 3 possessions and didn't get a single call. Dirk wasn't getting calls either, but the Raptors and especially Bosh were being far more aggressive to the basket, and would've and could've drawn more fouls.

[cornbread]

I love the spurs fans in here blaming it on the refs when they're not even watching the game. Bosh pretty much shot freethrows everytime he touched the ball.

Dallas freethrows - 17/19
Toronto freethrows - 21/24

Dirk freethrows - 7/9
Bosh freethrows - 10/12

And you're saying the Raptors didn't get any calls? You're all pathetic. Keep fearing the Mavs. Your season is over. Now go cry to a mod.

wah wah wah wah wah wah wah wah wah! crying about the refs when you're a Spurs fan. Hilarious. Duncan got 40 freethrows per game against the Mavs in the playoffs last year. Keep crying, third seed.

Sounds like you've got the victory parade all mapped out. Congrats on the success.

[RaptorsFan]

It went both ways in the 4th there was obvious contact both ways driving to the goal, dirks dunk on Bargnani was as foul, bosh didnt get some, etc. The refs let both teams play in the 4th quarter, It wasnt the refs down the stretch it was Mavs stepping it up and the Raptors not knowing how to close out. Parker missed FT and Bargnani shooting that ill-advise 3 that clanked of the side of the rim, poor execution offensivley and defensively on their part
The terrible calls were going both ways, but the Mavs were taking jump shots, while the Raptors were taking it to the hoops, so the Raptors would've drawn far more fouls.

[ace3g]

Your bench is utter shit and fucking old. You have no answer for Dirk and we own you badly in the coaching area! We control the boards and the tempo of the game. But hey you have the big 3 so that should be enough!! :drunk :drunk :drunk :drunk :rolleyes



umm the the first game of the spurs/mavs series this year, Elson did a great job on Dirk and was a key reason why the spurs won that game; 2nd game Pop decided to play Oberto on Dirk, spurs lose; 3rd game Elson due to injury couldnt play the game, Mavs win.


Just wait for the playoffs, because I believe Elson is enough to contain Dirk, no more small ball.


and in all of the games so far neither team has blown each other out, so come playoff time both teams will be evenly matched

[sribb43]

Were you taking a nap during the third quarter? There was a sequence during the third quarter right before Bosh got T'd up where he was obviously hacked 3 possessions and didn't get a single call. Dirk wasn't getting calls either, but the Raptors and especially Bosh were being far more aggressive to the basket, and would've and could've drawn more fouls.


Raports blew a 16 point 3rd quarter lead, the refs didnt hand the mavs the 17 points needed for the win

[sribb43]

The terrible calls were going both ways, but the Mavs were taking jump shots, while the Raptors were taking it to the hoops, so the Raptors would've drawn far more fouls.

Well the raptors shouldnt have allowed the game to get the the position were a few calls going against them would cost them the game, they had the lead the whole game with expection of about 20 seconds, if that

[Dirk Nowitzki]

Raports blew a 16 point 3rd quarter lead, the refs didnt hand the mavs the 17 points needed for the win

I love the artwork on Mbenga!! :lol :lol

[sribb43]

I love the artwork on Mbenga!! :lol :lol

thanks, that was from the playoffs last year when he got suspended in the phx series

[Dirk Nowitzki]

umm the the first game of the spurs/mavs series this year, Elson did a great job on Dirk and was a key reason why the spurs won that game; 2nd game Pop decided to play Oberto on Dirk, spurs lose; 3rd game Elson due to injury couldnt play the game, Mavs win.


Just wait for the playoffs, because I believe Elson is enough to contain Dirk, no more small ball.


and in all of the games so far neither team has blown each other out, so come playoff time both teams will be evenly matched

That doesnt fix your rebounding issues against us either!

[dave]

at least the raptors still lead the atlantic :lol

[RaptorsFan]

Raports blew a 16 point 3rd quarter lead, the refs didnt hand the mavs the 17 points needed for the win
I'm not sure if you realize this, but fouls lead to free throws. In most cases free throws lead to points. The "Raports" also took a 16 point lead early in the game. But surely that couldn't be because of the "Raports" good defense and teamwork and execution on offense. The lack of respect for the "Raports" is disgraceful.

[u2sarajevo]

That's it. The poster known as 'Dirk Nowitzki' is now going on ignore.

I think your schtick is to piss off fans of other teams. Try to stop being annoying, then maybe people would actually put stock in anything you spew off.

You give Mav fans a bad name. And I'm sick of it.

[Amuseddaysleeper]

I love the spurs fans in here blaming it on the refs when they're not even watching the game. Bosh pretty much shot freethrows everytime he touched the ball.

Dallas freethrows - 17/19
Toronto freethrows - 21/24

Dirk freethrows - 7/9
Bosh freethrows - 10/12

And you're saying the Raptors didn't get any calls? You're all pathetic. Keep fearing the Mavs. Your season is over. Now go cry to a mod.

wah wah wah wah wah wah wah wah wah! crying about the refs when you're a Spurs fan. Hilarious. Duncan got 40 freethrows per game against the Mavs in the playoffs last year. Keep crying, third seed.


sorry dumbass, but its the mostly the raptors fans complaining about the officiating, not the Spurs fans

[Solid D]

I love the spurs fans in here blaming it on the refs when they're not even watching the game. Bosh pretty much shot freethrows everytime he touched the ball.


A quick review of the posts tells me that a Toronto fan made an observation about the refs, but nobody with a team of "San Antonio Spurs" under their title. That Toronto fan was clearly watching the game.

[ponky]

hahaha....JHO!

[ponky]

hey raptors fans, i have to talk a little smack (thus my first post) but seriously, i really like several of the guys on your team and damn if our announcer wasn't all excited about the raptors as well...good game, i hope you guys win the atlantic cuz i don't like the nets

[ponky]

No, it was Josh Howard's grille shining in Bosh's eyes blinding him.

LMFAO, good one.

[dave]

hey raptors fans, i have to talk a little smack (thus my first post) but seriously, i really like several of the guys on your team and damn if our announcer wasn't all excited about the raptors as well...good game, i hope you guys win the atlantic cuz i don't like the nets

our announcer is always drunk, or just stupid
he's the one who acted like we won the championship when darrick martin hit that 3 pointer (and kept the streak alive) against you guys last time we played

[mabber]

umm the the first game of the spurs/mavs series this year, Elson did a great job on Dirk and was a key reason why the spurs won that game; 2nd game Pop decided to play Oberto on Dirk, spurs lose; 3rd game Elson due to injury couldnt play the game, Mavs win.


Just wait for the playoffs, because I believe Elson is enough to contain Dirk, no more small ball.


and in all of the games so far neither team has blown each other out, so come playoff time both teams will be evenly matched

I sure hope Pop believes this as well!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[ponky]

our announcer is always drunk, or just stupid
he's the one who acted like we won the championship when darrick martin hit that 3 pointer (and kept the streak alive) against you guys last time we played

haha, i remember that, i'm not in dallas but i get league pass so sometime we get the other team's announcers, that was pretty hilarious how crazy the announcer went

[mabber]

Told ya, Mavs would win. They've become a surprisingly good 4th quarter team...that's a big area of improvement from last season (See NBA Finals Collapse, particular Game 3 :))

They've become a very good 2nd half defensive team but their trend of giving up 50-60 pts in the 1st half to lesser teams and having to play their asses off on D in 2nd half just to win is getting really OLD. At least they're winning the games.

[Leetonidas]

That doesnt fix your rebounding issues against us either!
But the rebounding issue is due to small ball. With Elson at the C, he is athletic enough to keep up with Dirk.

[Budkin]

Man I can't wait to shove it down the Mavs fans throats when we oust them from the playoffs this year. MAN IT'S GONNA BE SWEET! Enjoy your winning while you can losers! :lol :lol :lol

[1Parker1]

No, it was Josh Howard's grille shining in Bosh's eyes blinding him.


:lmao :lmao

[td4mvp21]

I sure hope Pop believes this as well!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:lol I even agree with that. Elson can't stop Dirk. If we are lucky, he can at least keep up with him and contest shots.

[dg7md]

Mavs are virtually unstoppable. "January title" or not, this team looks way improved in everything, all thanks to Avery.

[dave]

who liked the bargnani block on dirk?

[Solid D]

If and when the Mavs ever do win an NBA championship, will Mavs' fans know how to act? All that bravado without ring support takes a certain false sense of security. How would they act with a true sense? We may never know.

[ponky]

who liked the bargnani block on dirk?

it's good to see that bargnani isn't quite the bust everyone thought he would be because of his play in november...as for the block, it's not like little nate on yao but it was good 7 on 7 (feet) action

[td4mvp21]

Mavs are virtually unstoppable. "January title" or not, this team looks way improved in everything, all thanks to Avery.

They are very very good, but their wins aren't just absolute domination. Don't get me wrong, they are the best team right now. However, they aren't exaclty owning every team. There is hope haha.

[ponky]

If and when the Mavs ever do win an NBA championship, will Mavs' fans know how to act? All that bravado without ring support takes a certain false sense of security. How would they act with a true sense? We may never know.

29 teams each year don't get a ring. Does that mean none of those fans should root for their teams without abandon and talk smack when a team they don't like gets beat? It's not a fucking tennis match where everyone claps politely (although, the U.S. Open is a but different) and neither is it European football where things go awesomely crazy. I was in Germany this summer checking out the World Cup and hanging with my cousin, THOSE peeps are some crazy fans, this ain't nothing.

[Solid D]

29 teams each year don't get a ring. Does that mean none of those fans should root for their teams without abandon and talk smack when a team they don't like gets beat? It's not a ****ing tennis match where everyone claps politely (although, the U.S. Open is a but different) and neither is it European football where things go awesomely crazy. I was in Germany this summer checking out the World Cup and hanging with my cousin, THOSE peeps are some crazy fans, this ain't nothing.

True enough.

[DubMcDub]

:lol at Spurs fans who think Francisco fucking Elson is the key to stopping one of the 3 best players in the NBA.

Enjoy that.

[DubMcDub]

They are very very good, but their wins aren't just absolute domination. Don't get me wrong, they are the best team right now. However, they aren't exaclty owning every team. There is hope haha.

Course not. But how many NBA teams have ever "dominated every game"?

It's the pros. Every team has good players, and any team can beat any other. W's are W's.

[td4mvp21]

Course not. But how many NBA teams have ever "dominated every game"?

It's the pros. Every team has good players, and any team can beat any other. W's are W's.

The 04-05 Spurs team blew out a lot of teams. At one point Pop was saying that he was sick of it and the team needed more experience in close games.

But you are right, W's are W's.

[DubMcDub]

The 04-05 Spurs team blew out a lot of teams. At one point Pop was saying that he was sick of it and the team needed more experience in close games.

But you are right, W's are W's.

Mavs this year have blown out a lot of teams too. I don't recall exactly what percentage of Spurs 04-05 games were blowouts, but I do remember that the 04-05 Spurs weren't even the top seed in the West, so they couldnt have been that dominant in the regular season.

Now, obviously that doesnt matter since the Spurs won it all when it counted. But I'm not quite sure how relevant it is that the Mavs are only winning half their games by double digits instead of all of them. At least, I'm not sure quite yet.....

You have a point though. It's also a good thing to win the close games sometimes. Most games in the playoffs in the later rounds are gonna be close. If you only know how to win in blowouts then you probably got another thing comin.

[Dirk Nowitzki]

That's it. The poster known as 'Dirk Nowitzki' is now going on ignore.

I think your schtick is to piss off fans of other teams. Try to stop being annoying, then maybe people would actually put stock in anything you spew off.

You give Mav fans a bad name. And I'm sick of it.


:rolleyes :rolleyes So you spend the time making a post about it. Smart :lol

[td4mvp21]

Mavs this year have blown out a lot of teams too. I don't recall exactly what percentage of Spurs 04-05 games were blowouts, but I do remember that the 04-05 Spurs weren't even the top seed in the West, so they couldnt have been that dominant in the regular season.

Now, obviously that doesnt matter since the Spurs won it all when it counted. But I'm not quite sure how relevant it is that the Mavs are only winning half their games by double digits instead of all of them. At least, I'm not sure quite yet.....

You have a point though. It's also a good thing to win the close games sometimes. Most games in the playoffs in the later rounds are gonna be close. If you only know how to win in blowouts then you probably got another thing comin.

They went back and forth for first place with Phoenix until about March, because Tim Duncan went down. They were very dominant with bad teams, I know we played very well against good teams at home. We blew out Phoenix at home.

It's not that relevant, I'm just trying to be optimistic :lol. I think Phoenix and San Antonio both have just as much of a chance to win the West as the Mavs do, and that's scary.

And yes, close games are a good thing. Gives the Mavs good experience in those situations. I actually like close games for the Spurs for that very reason.

[boutons_]

"They are very very good, but their wins aren't just absolute domination."

Last year, when Pistons were looking unbeatable, I remember they had several games just like the Mavs today.

Jazz did this several times before Christmas and the Suns do it often, too.

When it comes to the 4th qtr, or in crunch time, the weaker pretenders have more TOs, miss more FT and FGs, miss the big shots, make more defensive errors, less RBs than the better team.

These kinds of wins are good tests and confidence builders.

[dirk4mvp]

Very KG like.


Pau Gasol esque too might I add.

[mabber]

"They are very very good, but their wins aren't just absolute domination."

Last year, when Pistons were looking unbeatable, I remember they had several games just like the Mavs today.

Jazz did this several times before Christmas and the Suns do it often, too.

When it comes to the 4th qtr, or in crunch time, the weaker pretenders have more TOs, miss more FT and FGs, miss the big shots, make more defensive errors, less RBs than the better team.

These kinds of wins are good tests and confidence builders.

Yeah, against most teams they've been coasting in the first half and turning it on in the 2nd half (especially on D). They've been behind at half a lot lately it seems. I think they've gotten extremely cocky over the last month or so. I do know that they always play really hard in the 2nd halfs of games. They don't mind getting behind from teams cuz they are so confident that they'll come back and win. Hopefully, they won't do this in the playoffs.

[td4mvp21]

Yeah, against most teams they've been coasting in the first half and turning it on in the 2nd half (especially on D). They've been behind at half a lot lately it seems. I think they've gotten extremely cocky over the last month or so. I do know that they always play really hard in the 2nd halfs of games. They don't mind getting behind from teams cuz they are so confident that they'll come back and win. Hopefully, they won't do this in the playoffs.

That sums up the Spurs too, in a way I guess? Seems like they often get lackadaisical against teams that they shouldn't.

[angel_luv]

Holy cow! Toronto almost beat Dallas- go boys! :fro
I wish I had seen the game!

[lefty]

I watched the game ; nice game

Experience took over.

Props to Colangelo, he has built a nice team

Note : Bargnani's 1st season stats > Dirks's 1st season stats ; I think Andrea is a quicker Dirk

[dave]

I watched the game ; nice game

Experience took over.

Props to Colangelo, he has built a nice team

Note : Bargnani's 1st season stats > Dirks's 1st season stats ; I think Andrea is a quicker Dirk

yeah, bargnani is coming along quite nicely
only difference is that dirk was 19 when he came into the league, bargnani is 21 right now

[lefty]

yeah, bargnani is coming along quite nicely
only difference is that dirk was 19 when he came into the league, bargnani is 21 right now

True

[Solid D]

I've seen Sean Elliott score at the buzzer on that play, or similar, when AJ was the Spurs' PG. Josh Howard screens and then flashes to the basket....same play.

[boutons_]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=270114028

... MPG shows Avery played to win (not experiment with weird-ass combos), played 7-man playoff rotation, and got only 14 PTs and 7 RBs from his bench.

[Jerry Stackhouse]

I was definitely a key factor in yesterdays game. What would the mavs be without me.

[ploto]

Dirk II? Nowitzki lauds Raptor rookie Bargnani

Tribune news services

January 15, 2007

Toronto's Andrea Bargnani, the No. 1 pick in the draft, had 12 points, including two three-pointers, in the Raptors' home loss to the Dallas Mavericks on Sunday. The 7-foot Italian has often been compared to Dirk Nowitzki, who had 38 points Sunday, because of his size and outside shot.

"He's a better player than when I was 19 or 20," the Mavericks' Nowitzki said of the 21-year-old Bargnani. "He's going to be a heck of a player. He's a little more athletic than I even was back then. He can drive a little better than me."

LINK (http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/basketball/cs-0701150164jan15,1,435733.story?coll=cs-basketball-print)

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Some heady praise for Raps rookie

The comparisons between Raptors rookie Andrea Bargnani and Dallas Mavericks all-star Dirk Nowitzki may be unfair given their respective NBA experience, but they are inevitable, just the same.

Both are big men, both are from Europe and both were first-round draft picks.

But that is pretty much where the comparisons should end, firstly because Nowitzki -- in his ninth year in the association -- starts and gets his minutes.

Yesterday, Nowitzki was on the floor for 46 minutes of 48 played and notched a game-high 38 points. Bargnani came off the bench to put 32 minutes and 12 points beside his name.

Secondly, while Nowitzki is being mentioned again this season for MVP consideration, Bargnani will settle for a few rookie-of-the-year votes.

The seven-foot German, however, said following yesterday's 97-96 win over the Raptors, that he liked what he saw in the young Italian, who was selected No. 1 overall in the NBA draft.

"How old is he now, 20, 21?" Nowitzki asked. "Whatever he is, he is certainly better than I was when I was that age."

Nowitzki, 28, said that he got to see Bargnani up close and personal more than he might have liked yesterday.

There was one point in the game, with 2:04 left in the third quarter, when Bargnani dunked over Nowitzki and, just seconds later, batted a shot away from the Dallas forward at the other end.

"Obviously, he is a great shooter, but he can put it on the floor a little bit, too," Nowitzki said. "I like him, I like him a lot."

He wasn't about to anoint Bargnani as a star just yet, however.

"He still has a lot to learn. He is a rookie in this league," Nowitzki said. "If he'll just keep his eyes and his ears open, he will improve from year to year. He will be a great player in this league."

Nowitzki wasn't the only one on the Dallas side of the court who was impressed with the Toronto rookie.

Mavs coach Avery Johnson said he came away from the game convinced that the Bargnani is the real deal.

"For a big man, I really like the way he goes to the basket," Johnson said. "He has improved his play so much since the start of the season."

LINK (http://slam.canoe.ca/Slam/Basketball/NBA/Toronto/2007/01/15/3383141-sun.html)

[ploto]

The Raptors are definitely headed in the right direction. They are not quite there yet to pull out close games against top teams, especially as their go to guys are all really young, but in the course of 12 days they almost beat both Phoenix and Dallas which is definite improvement. For a team that had been so bad defensively, they held Phoenix to 100 points (only 40 in the seocnd half) and Dallas below 100.

And I have to get this in of course. I wonder who had the best + on-court stats for both teams this game?
http://popcornmachine.net/cgi-bin/gameflow.cgi?date=20070114&game=DALTOR

[BUMP]

you can say all you want about them heading in the right direction blah, blah, blah...........

the Mavericks were just bored yesterday :wakeup

[dave]

you can say all you want about them heading in the right direction blah, blah, blah...........

the Mavericks were just bored yesterday :wakeup

i'm sure they were just bored during the finals last year too
where the hell was josh howard the entire game though, he seemed invisible compared to his usual self except at the very end

[Rip-Hamilton32]

the final play just shows how bad the raps defense really is..oh well they should take an easy win today playing the sixers at 2

[mabber]

I watched the game ; nice game

Experience took over.

Props to Colangelo, he has built a nice team

Note : Bargnani's 1st season stats > Dirks's 1st season stats ; I think Andrea is a quicker Dirk

Yeah, that was the only reason that the Mavs won for the most part. The Mavs need to stop messing around with teams like that or it's going to cost them the #1 seed.

Does Rasho always play so little? He couldn't have been on the court more than 5 minutes (I could be wrong).

[mabber]

the final play just shows how bad the raps defense really is..oh well they should take an easy win today playing the sixers at 2

I read that their coach told Mo Peterson prior to play to stay with Josh Howard and not go to double Dirk on a play like like that. So it wasn't the coaching, it was just dumbass Peterson ignoring his coach.

[ploto]

Does Rasho always play so little? He couldn't have been on the court more than 5 minutes (I could be wrong).
Rasho played 16 minutes but AJ went small- sound familiar. When Rasho would come back in, AJ would take Dampier out and he did not play Diop at all.

The Raptors big line-up is better than their small line-up, and teams have been going smaller to try to force Sam to play the smaller line-up. Against Phoenix Sam went big-- really big-- Rasho, Andrea and Bosh- against their small and it worked really well. That is how they held them to 18 third quarter points. I don't know why he didn't do the same against Dallas although Sam does tend to limit Rasho's minutes on back-to-backs and they play today.

[LEONARD]

Avery = genius on set plays out of timeouts... :fro

[ploto]

Avery = genius on set plays out of timeouts... :fro
Yes, he is very good at that.

[boutons_]

I said weeks ago that I really liked the Raptors, but is Sam enough of a coach to get the most out of them? I think if they finish the season at .500, it will be a huge success.

[ploto]

I said weeks ago that I really liked the Raptors, but is Sam enough of a coach to get the most out of them? I think if they finish the season at .500, it will be a huge success.
The players really seem to love Sam, and I think he is a good motivator. He has a sort of interesting view of how to handle players. He has said that he does not believe that yelling at them is the way to coach. He believes that his team is made up of men of character whom he treats with respect.

[Trainwreck2100]

Andrea is a girl's name

[lefty]

I've seen Sean Elliott score at the buzzer on that play, or similar, when AJ was the Spurs' PG. Josh Howard screens and then flashes to the basket....same play.

It was at Cleveland, 94/95 season ; Doc Rivers to Sean Elliot