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Ronaldo McDonald
01-22-2007, 01:27 PM
I've said this before and I'll say it again: Parker has improved over the years alright--I am not going to say the guy hasn't improved--but I have this to add to the mountain of criticism he has recieved by some posters (that he has in my opinion deserved):

For those of you who think Parker has improvred oh so much, then you fail to see that this guy has just basically HAD to take some of the scoring load. Parkers percieved drasitic improvement obviously can be attributed to Duncans either deliberate (laziness being content with 3 rings as POP highlighted) or otherwise natural (age/injury induced) degression as the offensive centerpiece of this team. And as we have all seen, the team def. has not benefited from this.

pppp
01-22-2007, 01:34 PM
You're right !! Actual facts and stats don't matter !! What's important is what you want to be true, no matter what reality is....

when people can't face reality, or don't wanna see it, notice how they always try to dismiss it first ("stats can be manipulated, etc.")...

And that's exactly why the Parker hate will never stop, no matter what the guy does : because the reality of his play and performances just doesn't really matter anymore...


My point was that stats don't tell the story. Your response , bolded above, seems liike you want it both ways. On one hand you justify your opinion using parker's stats and mocking those who claim "stats don't tell the whole stry". Yet you responded to my stats as stating :

Stats won't tell you how good (or not) a player is , but can be an indicator of how a player has been playing...do you see the difference?

I certainly don't think Boozer is better than TD but those stats (PArker's) could be misleading
I don't mock people saying "stats don't tell the whole story" because I'm one of them. But to me, it's not "stats = truth" or "stats=worthless". I believe the truth is between those 2 statements.

I don't want is both ways, I just say that :
- It's true stats don't tell the whole story, there's more than that
- but you just can't ignore them totally (and that's why I have a problem with what you're doing). They're an "objective" tool that can give you an indication on how people play (nothing more). And in that case, they seem to indicate that people are exagerating Parker's "non-clutchness".

I don't think that Parker is "tha man" in the clutch, just that he aint that bad (as the stats indicate) and by the way before this season he wasn't really given the opportunity to show his clutchness (or not).

I just take stats for what they are. nothing more, nothing less.

My problem is that you chose to totally ignore and/or dismiss the stats on Parker when they didn't go your way.