Texas A&M @ Kansas

[johngateswhiteley]

venue: Phog Allen Fieldhouse
time: 7pm MT
line: ?

thoughts: kansas blew their wad against nebraska

prediction: A&M 21 kansas 20

[tlongII]

21-20???

[MajorMike]

I think he means margin of victory.

[SrA Husker]

Wow, they're moving this game to Lincoln? Odd, I thought Kansas would of wanted it kept at Phog Allen Fieldhouse.

Kansas 65, Aggies 56 - though I hope I'm wrong.

[johngateswhiteley]

I think he means margin of victory.

no, it was a half-hearted joke in tribute to their strong defenses. but i do pick A&M by 1.

[johngateswhiteley]

Wow, they're moving this game to Lincoln? Odd, I thought Kansas would of wanted it kept at Phog Allen Fieldhouse.

i have completely lost my mind...never mind.

[Jimcs50]

I think Ags lose a close one here

[johngateswhiteley]

I think Ags lose a close one here

:depressed :madrun :drunk :pctoss :dizzy :devil :wtf :nope :sleep :ihit :( :cry :bang :wow :jack :frying: :grim: :td :stfu :idiot

[johngateswhiteley]

...i think A&M really needs to win this game. i know that may sound crazy and i know its in Lawrence, but after losing to tekk and that shit ass lsu squad...i think we need to beat a top team. :pray

[Cant_Be_Faded]

A&M will earn another stripe if they can hold it down in Lawrence. Its quite different playing in an atmophere where every fan isnt constantly giving horns down and the 'saw em off' hug-dance

[Jimcs50]

A&M will earn another stripe if they can hold it down in Lawrence. Its quite different playing in an atmophere where every fan isnt constantly giving horns down and the 'saw em off' hug-dance

It will be close, no doubt about that. Aggies will never be blown out, IMO. Their D and ugly ball always keeps the games close.

If Carter and JJ have great games, then Aggies can upset Kansas....so I am holding out hope that the Aggies can pull off the upset.

[MajorMike]

Didn't they lose by 15 to LSU? Is that considered a blow out?

[Doug Collins]

Didn't they lose by 15 to LSU? Is that considered a blow out?

I think it was 12 plus you have to account for the Big Baby cheat factor :spin which makes it not a blow out. That loss pisses me off.

[RonMexico]

Yeah, it's made worse by the fact that LSU is tanking the season and our RPI is probably taking a hit... right CaptMike?

Big Baby is easy to figure out when the refs don't let him run over your players and call blocking fouls on them. There's a pretty big gap when 3 of A&M's big men ended up with 3 fouls apiece in the first half. Also, those kids were hitting outside shots when we doubled Big Baby and they really can't shoot all that well.

[yavozerb]

Go jayhawks!!
KU 64 ATM 56

[j-6]

If the Ags treat Kansas like they did UCLA, it will be tight and lower scoring, and they should prevail because KU ain't that at that style of ball. But I think they might be overlooking Iowa State tonight, boys.

ISU's not anything special, but they're well coached and they have the personnel to spring an upset. That's the way this conference works. Even Colorado and Baylor seem to have the horses to pull one off.

Nobody's going 16-0 in the Dirty Dozen - especially with a big gmae on the horizon.

[johngateswhiteley]

Didn't they lose by 15 to LSU? Is that considered a blow out?

1. Law shot 1-11
2. and Jones played 16 minutes
3. the game was on the road
4. you are a douche bag

[johngateswhiteley]

If the Ags treat Kansas like they did UCLA, it will be tight and lower scoring, and they should prevail because KU ain't that at that style of ball. But I think they might be overlooking Iowa State tonight, boys.

ISU's not anything special, but they're well coached and they have the personnel to spring an upset. That's the way this conference works. Even Colorado and Baylor seem to have the horses to pull one off.

Nobody's going 16-0 in the Dirty Dozen - especially with a big gmae on the horizon.

i agree with that assessment, though i am happy to say A&M didn't overlook iowa state...should be lots of fun on saturday night.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Ags take of the undercard tonight against ISU, 73-49. Three days til' A&M breaks the B12 South's 0-29 streak in Lawrence. :makemyday

[johngateswhiteley]

Ags take of the undercard tonight against ISU, 73-49. Three days til' A&M breaks the B12 South's 0-29 streak in Lawrence. :makemyday

if we can avoid the early deficit...we will win.

[Jimcs50]

Didn't they lose by 15 to LSU? Is that considered a blow out?

No dumass, it was a 5 pt game with less than 3 mins left. LSU made Fts down the stretch and we kept trying 3s....

[johngateswhiteley]

No dumass, it was a 5 pt game with less than 3 mins left. LSU made Fts down the stretch and we kept trying 3s....

sort of similar...A&M was up by 5 and couldn't hit ft's to put away tekk, so irritating. the earlier losses to lsu and ucla don't bother me as much as losing to tekk recently, i'd rather be 7-0 in the big 12. as i said in the other thread, part of me is happy t.u. worked them at home....

[RonMexico]

I don't know how that palm reading douche in the other thread considers a 2-pt loss to Tech in Lubbock where they just manhandled Kansas and they shot like 60% from 3pt range means A&M is "suspect." That's total bullshit. Who cares if Tech went into Missou and lost by 13? They beat 2 top-10 teams and they only beat A&M by 2 on a last second 3 and a few boneheaded A&M mistakes. John Hollinger says that the average home court advantage yields an extra 3.5 points per game, so the Ags still "beat the spread."

[johngateswhiteley]

I don't know how that palm reading douche in the other thread considers a 2-pt loss to Tech in Lubbock where they just manhandled Kansas and they shot like 60% from 3pt range means A&M is "suspect." That's total bullshit. Who cares if Tech went into Missou and lost by 13? They beat 2 top-10 teams and they only beat A&M by 2 on a last second 3 and a few boneheaded A&M mistakes. John Hollinger says that the average home court advantage yields an extra 3.5 points per game, so the Ags still "beat the spread."

...lets beat kansas and shut these chumps up. i have a good feeling about the game, actually.

[MajorMike]

I don't know how that palm reading douche in the other thread considers a 2-pt loss to Tech in Lubbock where they just manhandled Kansas and they shot like 60% from 3pt range means A&M is "suspect." That's total bullshit. Who cares if Tech went into Missou and lost by 13? They beat 2 top-10 teams and they only beat A&M by 2 on a last second 3 and a few boneheaded A&M mistakes. John Hollinger says that the average home court advantage yields an extra 3.5 points per game, so the Ags still "beat the spread."


Who cares if ttek lost by 13 at Mizzou?
Let's look at this objectively. Mizzou is ranked around 80 in ANY site that you look at, but RPI has them at 76 (and that's AFTER they beat ttek - they were 83 before).
Let's say UT goes to South Carolina (77) and loses by 13.
KU goes to Winthrop (73) and loses by 13.
atm goes to LSU (79) and loses by 12. Oh wait, that happened.

It's a suck loss. And you know what? His accusation that "Texas A&M is a team of suspect accomplishment" takes on even more fact when UT goes in and manhandles ttek.

atm does not have a good win to add to their resume. OSU is a 25ish team at best. That is the extent of their accomplishments. The only othe Top 50 win they have is a 4-point home scare over K-frickin-State.

To say that ttek only beat atm on a last second 3-pointer either means you have a poor memory, didn't watch the game, or are a liar. atm lost because they couldn't stop fouling. ttek only made one field goal the last 10 minutes of the game; ONE bucket the last 10 minutes. The only bucket they hit was a 3 with a minute to go. They got 13 points off the free throw line.

All everyone is saying, is that to be considered a contender, they have to beat someone else hat could also be considered a contender. Unless you count OSU they haven't.

[Doug Collins]

Cause Martin Zeno is the most unstoppable player in the Big 12 and deserved a billion ft attempts in the 2nd half? Get real. Had Kirk not thrown the ball away on the last possession and had the aggies not made other boneheaded turnovers that game would've been a W.

[MajorMike]

Actually... if you look at the NCAA player rankings... Zeno is pretty high:


RANK PLAYER TEAM CONF RANKING GP MPG PPG RPG APG FG % FT %
1 Kevin Durant TX BIG12 86.47 21 33.8 25.0 11.6 1.6 48.8 83.0
2 Mario Boggan OKST BIG12 79.94 21 33.0 20.8 7.8 1.5 57.1 79.1
3 Morris Almond RICE USA 79.92 20 32.5 27.1 6.7 1.2 48.1 85.6
4 Nick Fazekas NV WAC 79.91 20 29.0 20.2 11.6 1.8 58.9 86.5
5 Jared Dudley BC ACC 79.54 18 38.4 18.9 8.7 3.2 56.6 76.6
6 Glen Davis LSU SEC 77.83 21 35.1 18.0 10.3 2.3 49.1 71.0
7 Joakim Noah FL SEC 77.73 22 25.8 12.9 8.4 2.7 65 63.2
8 Al Thornton FLST ACC 77.00 22 30.0 18.6 6.6 0.7 55.6 85.0
9 Herbert Hill PROV BIGE 76.82 20 30.4 17.1 8.4 1.3 67.6 58.2
10 Andre Smith NDS IND 76.26 19 31.7 16.8 9.4 1.8 53.5 68.4
11 Aaron Brooks OR PAC10 76.18 19 36.6 19.1 4.1 4.5 47.8 86.2
11 Geoff McDermott PROV BIGE 76.18 20 36.5 11.7 10.0 5.4 52.4 58.1
13 Jarrius Jackson TXTECH BIG12 75.97 22 36.8 20.0 3.7 1.8 44.2 79.8
14 Bo McCalebb NORL BELT 75.83 21 34.8 26.1 6.5 3.2 48.3 72.5
15 Tyler Hansbrough NC ACC 75.81 22 28.8 18.4 8.2 1.4 52.3 74.3
16 Ivan Radenovic AZ PAC10 75.33 20 34.1 15.8 7.8 2.1 50.2 88.0
17 Josh McRoberts DUKE ACC 75.14 21 34.6 13.0 8.1 4.0 49.7 69.3
18 Carl Landry PUR BIG10 75.06 22 28.3 19.0 6.6 1.0 60.4 72.6
19 Sean Singletary VA ACC 74.92 19 31.9 19.0 4.4 5.0 40.6 91.3
20 Brett Winkelman NDS IND 74.78 19 31.5 15.8 6.8 2.2 52.2 82.1
21 Alando Tucker WI BIG10 74.74 23 31.4 19.7 5.0 2.0 49.1 66.2
22 Adam Haluska IA BIG10 74.67 22 34.3 19.9 4.5 2.5 40.9 87.9
23 Chris Lofton TN SEC 74.57 19 29.6 21.5 3.2 1.4 50.6 80.7
24 Rodney Stuckey EWA BSKY 74.33 22 32.3 24.0 4.7 5.5 45.2 84.0
25 Mustafa Shakur AZ PAC10 74.30 20 35.6 14.2 4.3 7.4 51.2 80.7
26 Drew Neitzel MIST BIG10 74.25 23 35.1 18.3 2.9 4.5 43.5 90.5
27 Gary Neal TWST COL 74.21 23 36.4 25.0 4.0 3.7 44.6 84.1
27 JamesOn Curry OKST BIG12 74.21 21 36.0 18.5 3.0 4.1 47.5 77.4
29 Tommie Liddell STLOU ATL10 74.04 21 35.9 16.4 7.5 2.8 49.2 75.3
30 Dionte Christmas TEMP ATL10 73.96 20 34.6 21.4 4.1 2.1 50 89.0
31 Demetris Nichols SYR BIGE 73.88 22 33.5 19.0 5.3 1.5 48 84.8
32 Ryan Anderson CA PAC10 73.77 21 32.7 17.2 8.5 0.5 49.6 79.1
33 Curtis Sumpter NOVA BIGE 73.74 20 29.5 18.1 6.9 0.9 45.9 80.0
34 Chase Budinger AZ PAC10 73.37 20 32.7 15.6 6.0 1.9 51.8 85.3
35 Martin Zeno TXTECH BIG12 73.32 22 34.1 16.3 5.0 3.3 47.9 77.7

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

CaptMike, can you take your stats crap to a new thread. This is the KU - A&M thread.

[MajorMike]

I didn't inject ttekk into this thread, someone else did. I was merely answering a post. And like you don't have a history along with jgw and dc of sabbotaging threads.

[Doug Collins]

Actually... if you look at the NCAA player rankings... Zeno is pretty high:


14 fta was 3 times his season avg. I wasnt saying he was a bad player but 14 ft attempts is a little ridiculous.

[RonMexico]

Well, A&M outshot Tech in the 2nd half, but when Martin Zeno is getting the Dirk treatment, then it's difficult to stop them. They don't have any game outside of Jarrius Jackson, so it's easy for Durant to outscore them when Zeno isn't charging into people and walking to the line.

[beachbarbie948]

I think it's gonna be a close game.
I'll be happy with whoever wins though.

[RonMexico]

Any ranking that has Mario Boggan at #2 and Glen Davis at #6 - should be #52 and #106 respectively - has no business on this board.

[RonMexico]

I hooked us up:

Jim (Phoenix, AZ): Despite a poor showing against LSU (compounded by the fact that LSU is tanking), why does everyone seem to be calling Texas A&M the pretenders of the top 10? First off, Duke's loss last night showed a little more "pretender" than a TAMU team that lost by 2 to the winningest coach in NCAA history. They may have lost a couple of road games (UCLA, TTU) with poor execution down the stretch, but doesn't a team with that kind of defensive ability and sense of unity deserve a lot of the minimal hype it receives? Tomorrow's game in Lawrence is huge.

Joe Lunardi: (2:25 PM ET ) I'm not at all down on Texas A&M (and will be discussing the Aggies on ESPN News at 340pm ET). They are going to need a big scalp at some point, however,and the entire nation will be watching tomorrow night.


ESPN News at 3:40 ET he'll talk about the Ags.

[johngateswhiteley]

I hooked us up:

Jim (Phoenix, AZ): Despite a poor showing against LSU (compounded by the fact that LSU is tanking), why does everyone seem to be calling Texas A&M the pretenders of the top 10? First off, Duke's loss last night showed a little more "pretender" than a TAMU team that lost by 2 to the winningest coach in NCAA history. They may have lost a couple of road games (UCLA, TTU) with poor execution down the stretch, but doesn't a team with that kind of defensive ability and sense of unity deserve a lot of the minimal hype it receives? Tomorrow's game in Lawrence is huge.

Joe Lunardi: (2:25 PM ET ) I'm not at all down on Texas A&M (and will be discussing the Aggies on ESPN News at 340pm ET). They are going to need a big scalp at some point, however,and the entire nation will be watching tomorrow night.


ESPN News at 3:40 ET he'll talk about the Ags.


sweet, i just got home so i will be watching.

[RonMexico]

Yeah, I got the day off so I'm in too. Why does tomorrow night's game have to be so far away?

I guess I can just bask in the glory of the Suns victory yesterday... haha, sorry...

[MajorMike]

Joe Lunardi: (2:25 PM ET ) They are going to need a big scalp at some point, however, and the entire nation will be watching tomorrow night.

Have I not been saying the exact same thing while you guys foam at the mouth?

[RonMexico]

Yeah, this is a big game tomorrow, but a 5-1 conference record is nothing to sneeze at, which is what that Palm Reader douche sounded like he was doing.

[johngateswhiteley]

coming up next!

[johngateswhiteley]

Joe Lunardi just said capt. mike is a douche bag....weird. oh yeah, and that RPI is overrated and A&M is awesome.

[RonMexico]

I should have recorded it... damn. He basically just gave us huge props and said RPI is a little meaningless. I'm ok with RPI when it determines getting into the tourney, but since the Ags don't have to worry about that this year (so far), it's worthless to me.

Scary part is that A&M is #3 in ASM and Kansas is #4


Best line by Lunardi: "Everyone seems to be down on A&M right now and I just don't understand why." Summed up the past 2 weeks in a nutshell.

[MajorMike]

Joe Lunardi just said capt. mike is a douche bag....weird. oh yeah, and that RPI is overrated and A&M is awesome.

That would be a yes.

[johngateswhiteley]

That would be a yes.

its a start.

[BeerIsGood!]

CaptMike, can you take your stats crap to a new thread. This is the KU - A&M thread.
:lmao It stinks of hypocracy in here. Someone better open a window.

[MajorMike]

:lmao It stinks of hypocracy in here. Someone better open a window.

Ding ding ding

[johngateswhiteley]

Ding ding ding

RPI.

[johngateswhiteley]

1. A&M beat Kansas
2. USC beat Oregon
3. k-state beat t.u.
4. colorado beat oklahomo state
5. oklahomo beat tekk
6. capt. dirt bag is still a douche bag

...i don't think this weekend could have been any better.

[SrA Husker]

7. nebraska beat mizzou (first time ever in columbia during big 12 era)
8. capt. dirt bag is still a douche bag

[Cant_Be_Faded]

you are all overlooking the fact that Captain Mike has owned JGW like 10 times in a row, only recently has JGW got some revenge....i guess if you're going for 'last point wins' kinda thing, then its true

but historically JGW is captain mike's pet bitch

[RonMexico]

i guess if you're going for 'last point wins' kinda thing, then its true

Kind of like if Reggie Bush has to give his Heisman back? Haha, just kidding

Btw, sorry JGW - I forgot you were a USC boy...

[johngateswhiteley]

you are all overlooking the fact that Captain Mike has owned JGW like 10 times in a row, only recently has JGW got some revenge....i guess if you're going for 'last point wins' kinda thing, then its true

but historically JGW is captain mike's pet bitch

you are out of your mind, but thats to be expected cause you're a t.u. fan. if you think capt. dirt bag has 'owned' me cause i have faith in my team and stuck my neck out on a few predictions....fine. but i like to support my schools.

in any case, the guy doesn't know his ass from his elbow and anytime he actually out debated me would be a first. although, i guess he could win every argument by stating, "RPI"... :rolleyes. he is a poster with no imagination, no guts, and formulaic...if not boring responses. he's a waste of time and space...

[Cant_Be_Faded]

But you predicted A&M football to finish their season much better than they actually did

and you got cherry blossomed

[johngateswhiteley]

But you predicted A&M football to finish their season much better than they actually did

and you got cherry blossomed

i predicted A&M to win their bowl and finish in the top 20, which would have given them the 10 wins i think i predicted. it came down to 1 game...and A&M lost. OK great, i was wrong about them beating Cal. bottom line, thats hardly ownage, when i predicted A&M to do better than anyone else did, at least on this board. and considering A&M went into austin and stomped on your little team.

[RonMexico]

i predicted A&M to win their bowl and finish in the top 20, which would have given them the 10 wins i think i predicted. it came down to 1 game...and A&M lost. OK great, i was wrong about them beating Cal. bottom line, thats hardly ownage, when i predicted A&M to do better than anyone else did, at least on this board. and considering A&M went into austin and stomped on your little team.

But VY won the rookie of the year!!! Waaahhhhh!! :cry

[Cant_Be_Faded]

Texas's season was a failure, you'll never hear me say otherwise

arguably worst defense in UT history
but at least we finished with a win, and Colt rebounded, giving at least some creedence to the idea that he was hurt against A&M
the little country bastard put up a heisman esque performance in his bowl debut

[johngateswhiteley]

Texas's season was a failure, you'll never hear me say otherwise


i'd agree with that, but it was ridiculous to have t.u. ranked as high as they were to start the season. that being said, i look for them to be pretty good next year. although, i think a preseason ranking of top 10 is too high.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

i'd agree with that, but it was ridiculous to have t.u. ranked as high as they were to start the season. that being said, i look for them to be pretty good next year. although, i think a preseason ranking of top 10 is too high.


Regardless of who they lost to the NFL they were still the incoming champions and that is worth something, in any sport. I think you'd be pissed if USC had won and they came into the next season ranked 15 or so....Nobody outside of austin really thought we'd STAY at number 2, but I think we deserved the 2 spot after owning the greatest team in the history of all sports. Besides, we ended up losing our best tailback and only player on the team with explosive playmaking ability--say what you will but losing Ramonce was horrible for the season. Only player we had that was capable of busting a huge play.

I think texas is fucked, defense is ruined for another decade, but enough about that horrible season..

[johngateswhiteley]

I think you'd be pissed if USC had won and they came into the next season ranked 15 or so....

i don't care what teams think they deserve to be ranked. i am only concerned with what they should be ranked. to have SC ranked outside the top 10, and imo the top 5, would have been irresponsible. and their play backed up these thoughts....SC is just a freaking powerhouse.