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mountainballer
02-06-2007, 10:18 AM
http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/columnists/cs-070204smith,1,5383356.column?coll=cs-bulls-utility

Meanwhile, general manager Jerry West put his Memphis home up for sale for almost $4 million and went to Europe to scout.

we heard a lot of rumors in the last weeks, mainly about Gasol, but the last days it looks as if the Grizzlies have put almost every player on the market.

Swift (in a package with Dahntay Jones) has been offered to the Blazers for Magloire and word is, that owner Michael Heisley has told Jerry West to forget fair value and slash the payroll.

( http://www.latimes.com/sports/baske...ack=1&cset=true )

it might be a coincidence that West has put his home on the market, but it also indicates, that he also isn't part of their future plans and will be gone after the big sellout.

so, if it just takes expiring contracts with some teasers (picks, cheap players, rights), who should the Spurs go for outside of Gasol, who they can never get.

I would guess the Grizzlies will keep Gay, Warrick, Lowry and Roberts, who are all young and on cheap contracts.

ThomasGranger
02-06-2007, 11:26 AM
Maybe Mike Miller?

FromWayDowntown
02-06-2007, 11:34 AM
It's a good thing for the Grizzlies that Ted Stepien was Ted Stepien before Michael Heisley could become Ted Stepien.

Isn't Heisley the guy who showed up in San Antonio for the Grizzlies first playoff game in 2004 wearing a "Vancouver Grizzlies" shirt?

twilo73
02-06-2007, 03:17 PM
I would totally go for Miller. We could offer Miller for Scola rights, Williams and Bonner, and a couple of second rounds. Memphis gets cap relief, Scola and two picks. We get the scorer, shooter, off the bench we so desperately need.

If we can I would add something an try to get Atkins as a back up point guard.

Streakyshooter08
02-06-2007, 03:21 PM
I would LOVE to have Mike Miller in silver and black... but I really doubt its gonna happen...

AFBlue
02-06-2007, 03:28 PM
Anybody know how much Miller makes? I know he signed an extension back in 03 that takes him through the 2010 season (which is probably a non-starter w/ Spurs FO), but for how much?

He's a great scorer and has really seen his average go up with an increased role/starting time.

FromWayDowntown
02-06-2007, 03:36 PM
Mike Miller signed a 6-year extension with the Grizzlies in October 2003 for $47.25 million. He'll be a free agent in the summer of 2010.

Amuseddaysleeper
02-06-2007, 06:39 PM
haha it feels like the Grizz are having a garage sale with their roster and everyone wants in

AFBlue
02-06-2007, 07:33 PM
Mike Miller signed a 6-year extension with the Grizzlies in October 2003 for $47.25 million. He'll be a free agent in the summer of 2010.

Thanks. $8M a season...yeesh. He's good, but I don't know about that...

exstatic
02-06-2007, 07:54 PM
Thanks. $8M a season...yeesh. He's good, but I don't know about that...
And the cheap years are LONG gone on that deal. Think: $9-10M or so now, and increasing.

exstatic
02-06-2007, 07:57 PM
West has seemed to struggle in the luxury tax era. His big coups were in LA, pre-tax. Everything after that Shaq/Kobe summer was downhill. Glen Rice? Elden Campbell? Yuk.

ChumpDumper
02-06-2007, 07:59 PM
I believe Miller's deal tops out at $9.75 million in 09/10.

I would probably do it. His performances against playoff teams are pretty darn good.

Marcus Bryant
02-06-2007, 10:46 PM
The Spurs do have the ability to help the Grizz lose a contract. But they won't. If the Spurs were willing, they could potentially score a decent player like a Miller and something more in return for the service.

At most we're looking at Atkins if the Spurs deal with them.

ChumpDumper
02-06-2007, 10:50 PM
Well, the Spurs were willing to eat into 2008 cap space for Joel Przybilla -- who would be better to get as a free agent for the same price as Miller?

Marcus Bryant
02-06-2007, 10:52 PM
...with an offer that was almost $10 mil under his market price.

ChumpDumper
02-06-2007, 10:54 PM
...which still would've eaten into 2008.

Marcus Bryant
02-06-2007, 10:58 PM
...if an NBA player (other than Sprewell) was actually willing to leave that much guaranteed on the table. The Spurs didn't push hard for him. Frankly, it looked like they were just going through the motions. Assuming that they really wanted him, after they lost out on him they seemed to have switched to maximizing flexibility in '08, so I wouldn't read too much into their half-assed play for Pryzbilla.

ChumpDumper
02-06-2007, 10:59 PM
Of course you wouldn't. It doesn't fit the agenda.

Marcus Bryant
02-06-2007, 11:01 PM
So they underbid one free agent last summer and that means that they aren't avoiding any significant deals past '08 now?

ChumpDumper
02-06-2007, 11:02 PM
Like I said, it depends on the player.

Marcus Bryant
02-06-2007, 11:03 PM
Something better than Corey Maggette, apparently.

timvp
02-06-2007, 11:06 PM
I believe Miller's deal tops out at $9.75 million in 09/10.

I would probably do it. His performances against playoff teams are pretty darn good.

Except when he's actually in the playoffs. :lol

Miller might be the most unclutch playoff performer in the last seven years. He's like Hedo without the rebounding.

ChumpDumper
02-06-2007, 11:06 PM
Something better than Corey Maggette, apparently.Or not, since they apparently asked again.

ChumpDumper
02-06-2007, 11:07 PM
Except when he's actually in the playoffs. :lol

Miller might be the most unclutch playoff performer in the last seven years. He's like Hedo without the rebounding.So you'd rather stick with the 08 plan?

Marcus Bryant
02-06-2007, 11:09 PM
Maybe they asked if he would drop the player option.

T-Pain
02-06-2007, 11:09 PM
I would LOVE to have Mike Miller in silver and black... but I really doubt its gonna happen...
dude looks like a laday!!!!

timvp
02-06-2007, 11:10 PM
So you'd rather stick with the 08 plan?
Yes. If the alternative is Mike Miller.

Have you seen his playoff stats? Hedo outplayed Miller in 2004. And that was one of Miller's better playoff runs.

ChumpDumper
02-06-2007, 11:11 PM
Maybe they asked if he would drop the player option.Yeah, no chance that would ever make the LA Times....

ChumpDumper
02-06-2007, 11:11 PM
Yes. If the alternative is Mike Miller.

Have you seen his playoff stats? Hedo outplayed Miller in 2004. And that was one of Miller's better playoff runs.Ok then.

timvp is on board with the 2008 plan.

timvp
02-06-2007, 11:12 PM
Ok then.

timvp is on board with the 2008 plan.
Keyword in the last post was 'if'.

Marcus Bryant
02-06-2007, 11:14 PM
Nah, he just doesn't like Mike Miller. I guess he'd like Corey Maggette, if he's not appalled by his ball handling skills, or lack thereof.

ChumpDumper
02-06-2007, 11:15 PM
Keyword in the last post was 'if'.Just noting that there are indeed conditions for you to keep this cap space available.

timvp
02-06-2007, 11:27 PM
I'd take the 2008 unfriendly contracts of Gasol, Gay and Lowry. Overall, I'd like Warrick, Jones, Atkins and Johnson out of Memphis.

timvp
02-06-2007, 11:28 PM
Just noting that there are indeed conditions for you to keep this cap space available.

Would you continue with the 2008 plan or have the Spurs trade for Brian Cardinal?

Sam
02-06-2007, 11:30 PM
I would take Miller in a heartbeat. He would be just what we need.

ChumpDumper
02-06-2007, 11:31 PM
There are indeed conditions for me to keep this cap space available.

timvp
02-06-2007, 11:33 PM
There are indeed conditions for me to keep this cap space available.

Just noting that there are indeed conditions for you to keep this cap space available.

leemajors
02-07-2007, 12:41 AM
I would take Miller in a heartbeat. He would be just what we need.

translation: miller went to florida.

twilo73
02-07-2007, 12:54 AM
Something better than Corey Maggette, apparently.

Mike Miller > Andre Miller > Corey Maggette

Sam
02-07-2007, 06:37 AM
translation: miller went to florida.
Yes he did. He also was unbelievable his rookie year in Orlando. He has kept Memphis in most games this year while Pau has been sitting his lazy ass on the sidelines whining. Miller has some injury problems but I think those are over. He's a stand up guy that's involved in the community. Wife is involved in the school system and with Mike's foundation.

twilo73
02-07-2007, 08:54 AM
The more I think it the more I want Miller in SA. He would really solve a couple of big problems we have.

mountainballer
02-07-2007, 09:14 AM
Yes. If the alternative is Mike Miller.

Have you seen his playoff stats? Hedo outplayed Miller in 2004. And that was one of Miller's better playoff runs.

in fact, Miller's PO numbers aren't exactly sparkling.
but to be fair, in 2004 Miller was guarded by Bruce most of the time (Hedo played Posey if I remember right), this can cause quite ugly numbers, ask Shawn Marion.
but yes, a PO record of 0-20 doesn't look good.

there will be other teams, especially thoses that are desperate for some scoring help, who might offer more than just expiring contracts.
however,(and ignoring salary issues) if Miller would repleaced Barry in the 6th man role, it would be a huge upgrade.
and btw. Barry wasn't exactly a PO hero either, when the Spurs aquired him.

twilo73
02-07-2007, 12:10 PM
What does PO mean?

Man In Black
02-07-2007, 12:55 PM
Play-off