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BuddyHolly
02-12-2007, 02:33 PM
This trade is just a pull out of my ass, however, would you do it?

Tony
Brent

for

Maggette
Livingston
Williams
AFBlue
02-12-2007, 02:34 PM
No....Livingston is overrated

And who is Williams?
Kermit
02-12-2007, 02:37 PM
if livingston played up to his potential every night, hell yes.
Kori Ellis
02-12-2007, 02:39 PM
No way.

Livingston isn't that good right now.
BuddyHolly
02-12-2007, 02:40 PM
I think Shaun could be something really special.
Kori Ellis
02-12-2007, 02:40 PM
I think Shaun could be something really special.

I think Tony is already something special.
Kermit
02-12-2007, 02:41 PM
I think Shaun could be something really special.

he could be, but he's too erratic. i'll admit that he has all the talent in the world, though.
Buddy Holly
02-12-2007, 02:42 PM
I think Tony is already something special.

I agree.
MrChug
02-12-2007, 02:42 PM
Actually, it's not that far fetched. I tried a scenario on TradeChecker that I liked. Tony + Brent for Shaun and Kaman. It worked. We need a big.
VaSpursFan
02-12-2007, 02:42 PM
i do not trade tony...he's only going to get better. his ability to finish in the lane over bigs is remarkable. his mid range j has improved greatly. if he extends his range beyong the arc, he's going to be damn near unstoppable. livingston has the athleticism but he's still raw.
AFBlue
02-12-2007, 02:44 PM
I've said it before and I'll say it again....

There comes a point when the "big" PG becomes too big & can't guard the 1 spot, and when the "pass-first" PG becomes the "can't shoot" PG who can't provide offense when needed.

Instead of J-Kidd you end up with Shaun Livingston.
timvp
02-12-2007, 02:45 PM
This would be a good trade. . .

. . .if the Spurs were trying to win the 2012 championship.
Buddy Holly
02-12-2007, 02:45 PM
Brent
Beno
Williams

for

Maggette
Shaun

If only...
Kermit
02-12-2007, 02:47 PM
i do not trade tony...he's only going to get better. his ability to finish in the lane over bigs is remarkable. his mid range j has improved greatly. if he extends his range beyong the arc, he's going to be damn near unstoppable. livingston has the athleticism but he's still raw.

he has three-ball range (46% from there this year). his shot just takes a really long time (in nba terms) to come of his fingers (my opinion). i never really see him drive in and pull up (floater doesn't count), although i'm sure it's something he's working on. most of his sucessful jumpshots look to me to be a result of a pass in which he's wide-open.
boutons_
02-12-2007, 02:48 PM
Ususally, nobody in the West is gonna help the Spurs. We traded with Knicks last year, Iverson went West. Wally and friends went from Minny to Boston.

I don't have the stats, but aren't most trades nearly always trans-conference?
Spurs Brazil
02-12-2007, 02:53 PM
No
AFBlue
02-12-2007, 03:01 PM
Ususally, nobody in the West is gonna help the Spurs. We traded with Knicks last year, Iverson went West. Wally and friends went from Minny to Boston.

I don't have the stats, but aren't most trades nearly always trans-conference?

Crappy teams with malcontent players make trades with any team...no matter what conference.