Webber: 19pts 9rbs tonight, and Pistons are 11-3 or something since they got him

[Spurs Dynasty 21]

But the "genius" Pop was right to think a big man that can score, rebound, and is the best passing big man in the NBA, and would have a DIRT cheap contract, would be a bad fit for the Spurs system.




Pop should be kissing Duncan's feet everyday for getting him into the HOF and putting 3 title rings on Pop's fingers

[Vinnie_Johnson]

He has been playing real well for us and has just jump started the whole team. It feels like 2004 when we picked up Sheed.

[ponky]

was getting webber a possibility for the spurs?

[Spurs Dynasty 21]

He has been playing real well for us and has just jump started the whole team. It feels like 2004 when we picked up Sheed.



Webber would have been a perfect fit for the Spurs and was exactly what the Spurs needed


Pistons brass had brains unlike the Spurs brass and they made the move.

[ponky]

He has been playing real well for us and has just jump started the whole team. It feels like 2004 when we picked up Sheed.

i'm glad to see the pistons playing well again, they have been my pick to come out of the east since the start of the season and i have a large bet riding on it

[SpursErie]

I've always liked Webber so I'm pleased to hear he's doing well. Pop is like a jilted lover with Webber since Chris stuck him in 2002 at which time Pop was ready to give the Admiral the heave ho to get him.

[Spurs Dynasty 21]

was getting webber a possibility for the spurs?



yes, and was one of the top choices for Webber, but Pop absolutely DID NOT want him and made that clear to the press many times. Pop did not like him personally so he didn't make the move


one of the dumbest things in Spurs history and a trade isn't made by the 22nd, and with Pop stupid enough to think this roster has a chance I guess that it will stand

[Extra Stout]

As cathartic as it is to crap on Pop, there was zero chance at Webber.

[Spurs Dynasty 21]

As cathartic as it is to crap on Pop, there was zero chance at Webber.



you can tell yourself that if it helps you sleep at night :rolleyes




there were many reports that the Spurs were one of his TOP choices and porb his best chance at getting a title

[Extra Stout]

you can tell yourself that if it helps you sleep at night :rolleyes




there were many reports that the Spurs were one of his TOP choices and porb his best chance at getting a title
The Spurs are over the lux-tax threshold. There was no way Pop had the green light to add payroll. Winning is not the priority this year.

[Spurs Dynasty 21]

Winning is not the priority this year.

:lol


the anything other then a title is deemed a failure for the Spurs, especially when Duncan/Paker/Manu are all in their prime, and they have very recently won 2 titles

[JamStone]

Reports of his demise have been greatly exaggerated.

He's still a lot slower than he used to be, but the zone and his IQ helps with his defensive deficiencies.

At any rate, Webber has since said that the only two teams he really wanted to play for were Detroit and the Lakers. Of course his agent is going to let it be known he wants to play for as many teams as possible in case the teams Webber really wanted to play for didn't feel the same way. Got to keep your options open JUST IN CASE.

[Pistons < Spurs]

there were many reports that the Spurs were one of his TOP choices and porb his best chance at getting a title

I read many reports that said Webber SHOULD consider the Spurs as his best option, as he'd fit in well and have a great opportunity to get a ring. But I heard nothing from the Webber side of the discussion saying the Spurs were on his radar other than he wanted to go to a team that had a chance.

[Kori Ellis]

yes, and was one of the top choices for Webber, but Pop absolutely DID NOT want him and made that clear to the press many times. Pop did not like him personally so he didn't make the move


one of the dumbest things in Spurs history and a trade isn't made by the 22nd, and with Pop stupid enough to think this roster has a chance I guess that it will stand

Pop likes him personally a lot. He wanted him here a few years ago. They just didn't want him this year.

[midgetonadonkey]

Spurs need a big man that can block shots and play good D. He does neither.

[Kori Ellis]

I read many reports that said Webber SHOULD consider the Spurs as his best option, as he'd fit in well and have a great opportunity to get a ring. But I heard nothing from the Webber side of the discussion saying the Spurs were on his radar other than he wanted to go to a team that had a chance.

That's correct.

But Pop did also say they had no interest in Webber this season.

[ponky]

well, even if the spurs got him, there's no guarantee that he'd be contributing just as much as he does with the pistons now. he's very happy to be playing for his hometown, rasheed is very happy playing alongside him and i think playing east coast teams more often can help them climb the ladder a bit easier

[Kori Ellis]

well, even if the spurs got him, there's no guarantee that he'd be contributing just as much as he does with the pistons now. he's very happy to be playing for his hometown, rasheed is very happy playing alongside him and if he and pop didn't get along, that's not a positive.


And it's not correct.

[td4mvp21]

That's correct.

But Pop did also say they had no interest in Webber this season.

Probably because he can rebound and contribute :lol.

[ponky]

And it's not correct.

lol, i changed it...just going by the other poster's comments, i assumed he knew what he was talking about :lol

[Spurs Dynasty 21]

Pop likes him personally a lot. He wanted him here a few years ago. They just didn't want him this year.




I've heard otherwise, including the contrary on NBATV by Peter Vescey and the other guys on NBATV Game night




Probably because he can rebound and contribute :lol.


:lol

[Kori Ellis]

I've heard otherwise, including the contrary on NBATV by Peter Vescey and the other guys on NBATV Game night

Yeah Peter Vescey wrote an article talking about it. That's what you heard them talking about on NBATV. But it was a load of crap.

Pop actually has a good relationship with Webber and was willing to trade David Robinson to get him.

[JamStone]

Peter Vescey is ALWAYS accurate ... :rolleyes

[Spurs Dynasty 21]

Yeah Peter Vescey wrote an article talking about it. That's what you heard them talking about on NBATV. But it was a load of crap.

Pop actually has a good relationship with Webber and was willing to trade David Robinson to get him.




but he had absolutely NO interest to get him this year while he still putting up very nice numbers and would play for min $$$?



how much sense would that make if there wasn't a personal reason?





Peter Vescey is ALWAYS accurate ... :rolleyes


he broke the AI/Nuggets trade and has been braking trade stories before you were born

[Dirk Nowitzki]

:madrun :madrun Why did this have to get posted! I was over my Webber wet dream and now this statline is brought up to piss me off that Cuban (:flipoff) didnt land this fucker! :pctoss :pctoss :pctoss :bang :depressed :cry

[Pistons < Spurs]

Peter Vescey
:lmao

[Kori Ellis]

but he had absolutely NO interest to get him this year while he still putting up very nice numbers and would play for min $$$?



how much sense would that make if there wasn't a personal reason?







he broke the AI/Nuggets trade and has been braking trade stories before you were born

Webber and Pop don't have any bad blood. Management, for whatever reason, decided they didn't need him this season. I'm sure they regret it when they see Oberto 0-for'ing on the glass.

And I'm sure you know that Vecsey has a reputation of embellishing and making up stories.

[Dirk Nowitzki]

He has been playing real well for us and has just jump started the whole team. It feels like 2004 when we picked up Sheed.
:depressed :depressed That is the feeling I was hoping to get if we were to get a badass like C-Webb!

[ponky]

he broke the AI/Nuggets trade and has been braking trade stories before you were born

:lol :lol :lol you sure you're not confusing him with his ny times writing papa? peter vecsey is about as accurate as steven a. smith's sources, he writes for the new york post for chrissakes, costs a quarter at any subway station in nyc! :lol :lol :lol

i broke the nuggets trade as soon as they announced AI was done in philly...most knowledgeable people following the nba could see it coming a mile away

[JamStone]

You imbeciles are not reading.

Chris Webber WANTED TO PLAY for either the Pistons or the Lakers.

Get over it already. Even if the Spurs and/or the Mavericks were options, they weren't Webber's top choices.

He was going to play for Detroit or Los Angeles. The only other possibility was Miami, and that was a long-shot too.

[ponky]

:madrun :madrun Why did this have to get posted! I was over my Webber wet dream and now this statline is brought up to piss me off that Cuban (:flipoff) didnt land this fucker! :pctoss :pctoss :pctoss :bang :depressed :cry


:wtf :wtf :wtf :wtf :wtf :wtf :wtf :wtf what part of being in first place don't you understand?!?!?!?!??!

[Dirk Nowitzki]

:wtf :wtf :wtf :wtf :wtf :wtf :wtf :wtf what part of being in first place don't you understand?!?!?!?!??!
Im venting and greedy so sue me! Webber would of really helped instead of Austin orange crackers croshere :p: :p: .

[Vinnie_Johnson]

And I'm sure you know that Vecsey has a reputation of embellishing and making up stories.

Vecsey = Assflake :lol

[Dirk Nowitzki]

Oh and Kori thanks for changing up my title from the way I wanted it. :) :) But for some reason I like it and want to keep it up for a while.

[ABDENOUR POWER]

To be honest, Webber has a lot more game left than I thought he had. I won't deny it - Webber is an old man with zero vertical or mobility. But he's arguably the best passing big man in the game, is extremely crafty on the low block, and has a decent little jumper. And though he can't dunk like he used to, he's a better finisher around the rim than I expected - because of his sure hands, he almost never bobbles the ball under the hoop.

We'll see how far Detroit can go with this new lineup. Though I still have my doubts about getting past Miami, things are looking good.

[Spurs Dynasty 21]

To be honest, Webber has a lot more game left than I thought he had. I won't deny it - Webber is an old man with zero vertical or mobility. But he's arguably the best passing big man in the game, is extremely crafty on the low block, and has a decent little jumper. And though he can't dunk like he used to, he's a better finisher around the rim than I expected - because of his sure hands, he almost never bobbles the ball under the hoop.

We'll see how far Detroit can go with this new lineup. Though I still have my doubts about getting past Miami, things are looking good.




with Oberto putting up stats like 0rbs and 0pts, and Elson being garbage I think the Spurs would take 19pts 9rbs from a big man anytime

[conversekid]

But the "genius" Pop was right to think a big man that can score, rebound, and is the best passing big man in the NBA, and would have a DIRT cheap contract, would be a bad fit for the Spurs system.




Pop should be kissing Duncan's feet everyday for getting him into the HOF and putting 3 title rings on Pop's fingers

Webber would not have fit in the spurs... he's great for detroit, playing in the east. Webber in the west wouldn't flourish as he is in the east.

[Leetonidas]

But the "genius" Pop was right to think a big man that can score, rebound, and is the best passing big man in the NBA, and would have a DIRT cheap contract, would be a bad fit for the Spurs system.




Pop should be kissing Duncan's feet everyday for getting him into the HOF and putting 3 title rings on Pop's fingers
Um, Webber's mind was set on going home to Detroit, or LA at a slim chance dude. Get that through your head.

[Extra Stout]

Lux tax = no acquisitions this season. If you people want more titles, come back next year and check to see if they've retooled the roster.

[baseline bum]

but he had absolutely NO interest to get him this year while he still putting up very nice numbers and would play for min $$$?



how much sense would that make if there wasn't a personal reason?







he broke the AI/Nuggets trade and has been braking trade stories before you were born

Vescey also broke such nuggets as Grant Hill signing with the Spurs for the mid-level exception, and David Robinson being traded to the Wizards for the #1 pick so Pop could draft Eddie Griffen.

[ShoogarBear]

We'll see how far Detroit can go with this new lineup. Though I still have my doubts about getting past Miami, things are looking good.You still got that guy as head coach? :devil

[SequSpur]

As long as the ATT center is full, Ludden and Harvey are blaming Beno and Pop is running his soft smack... ownership aint doing shit.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

But the "genius" Pop was right to think a big man that can score, rebound, and is the best passing big man in the NBA, and would have a DIRT cheap contract, would be a bad fit for the Spurs system.




Pop should be kissing Duncan's feet everyday for getting him into the HOF and putting 3 title rings on Pop's fingers


You might have an argument if the Spurs had any chance of getting him when he was waived. They didn't.

[Axl Van Dam]

:reading Webber and the Pistons are in Renaissance Mode. They'll lord it over the Eastern Conference come playoff time. :reading

[bdubya]

:reading Webber and the Pistons are in Renaissance Mode. They'll lord it over the Eastern Conference come playoff time. :reading

Boo. Yah. How you like us now? Pistonz rulz da mighty EAST. :sleep

[dunkman]

Dumars is much better than Pop/RC in making midseason trades. There are too many years that Duncan plays alone in the post and the FO keeps bringing swings and bad post players, just to fill the roster. The Spurs need a quality post player, an backup PG and a SF, and should trade to get them. Also, too many picks get wasted waiting forever in Europe.

[rascal]

Spurs management either can't or won't make any good trades. just look at their track record for that. And their draft picks haven't been any good lately either.

The spurs are slipping into mediocrity.

[4001 STEREO SPUR]

but he had absolutely NO interest to get him this year while he still putting up very nice numbers and would play for min $$$?



how much sense would that make if there wasn't a personal reason?







he broke the AI/Nuggets trade and has been braking trade stories before you were born

Pop wanted to wait until he's even older and contributes less. Than he'd fit our style of paly.

[my2sons]

What makes this soooo funny is that very few people on this board wanted anything to do with another old, worn out, bad knees shot old player on this team. he does not cover our needs and we want no part of him. i stated he was serviceable, he could hit an outside shot and open things up a little for tim on spot duty. i could care less one way or the other. but feelings were so inflamed about how the majority on this board wanted no part of that ol' fart that it makes this thread so much more the funny

[Spurs Dynasty 21]

What makes this soooo funny is that very few people on this board wanted anything to do with another old, worn out, bad knees shot old player on this team. he does not cover our needs and we want no part of him. i stated he was serviceable, he could hit an outside shot and open things up a little for tim on spot duty. i could care less one way or the other. but feelings were so inflamed about how the majority on this board wanted no part of that ol' fart that it makes this thread so much more the funny




LOL, you obviously have NO idea what Webber can do



I'm just going to assume you never heard of Webber

[Marklar MM]

LOL, you obviously have NO idea what Webber can do



I'm just going to assume you never heard of Webber


He was saying that Webber was serviceable and how the rest of the Spurs fans didn't want to sign him because of his knees and stuff.

[Clutch20]

On a related issue, here is a poll (I know how y'all feel about polls)
on the upcoming game between Pistons-Spurs:


How important is the Pistons-Spurs matchup Wednesday?

Huge statement game -47%

Bigger for Pistons-25%

Just another game -16%

Bigger for Spurs-12%

http://www.nba.com/pistons/news/practice_070213.html