Finally a trade? Report of Melvin Ely to the Spurs

[Kori Ellis]

My guess is another Spurs big man is gone in a trade lickety split.

[VaSpursFan]

trial by fire...get this guy on the court ASAP and integrate him into the system. oberto is back to being the 3rd string center...yay!

[Spurminator]

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=561108&postcount=6


The Observer never reported such a deal, and I would guess the Radio "report" amounted to a couple of guys speculating on the air.

[ShoogarBear]

My guess is another Spurs big man is gone in a trade lickety split.Maybe the Clippers want Oberto?

(We need a praying smilie.)

[MoSpur]

Very good trade considering the Spurs didn't give up much. So who's minutes does he take away?

[VaSpursFan]

My guess is another Spurs big man is gone in a trade lickety split.

this is the one instance where i want us to trade big for a small.

[FromWayDowntown]

My guess is another Spurs big man is gone in a trade lickety split.

I'd think so too. This team is now top-heavy with bigs, and too many of them are essentially redundant.

I'm skeptical of any Spurs trade rumor, but I can't see that this team is going to enter the stretch run with all 7 of Duncan, Oberto, Elson, Horry, Bonner, Butler, and Ely on the roster.

[Spurs Brazil]

My guess is another Spurs big man is gone in a trade lickety split.

I hope it's Oberto

[Spurminator]

Maybe they're converting Elson to SF... :fro

[JPB]

My guess is another Spurs big man is gone in a trade lickety split.

Which one ?

[td4mvp21]

I hope it's Oberto
AMEN.

[ShoogarBear]

Would the Spurs include Butler in a package for Maggette if LA requested it?

[AFBlue]

My guess is another Spurs big man is gone in a trade lickety split.

Oberto for Atkins?

[VaSpursFan]

this has to be part of a larger deal. ely replaces a big that's going out in a trade that will either address the back-up PG or athletic 3.

[AFBlue]

Would the Spurs include Butler in a package for Maggette if LA requested it?

In a heartbeat I'm sure...

[ArgSpursFan]

trial by fire...get this guy on the court ASAP and integrate him into the system. oberto is back to being the 3rd string center...yay!

Wrong,Oberto and elson will keep on playing the same minutes,what gonna happen is that Spurs won´t play that much small ball anymore.I would say Horry,and bonner are done with this trade.

[MrChug]

Very VERY good hands, and a solid low-post scoring presence. A dunker and a physical player, he was a god at Fresno State. He's really smooth, but not a great passer. He'll try to make the right play, but it seems his knack is on defense. I think he'll work well.

[Spurminator]

Maybe they're converting Elson to SF... :fro


Or Ely.... ?

[AFBlue]

I'm glad the Spurs made this move with time to spare...

This way they don't HAVE to rush into trading one of their other PF/C....they can evaluate all options

[Kori Ellis]

No one rolls with 7 bigs.

The Spurs have to be doing something else soon, I believe.

[VaSpursFan]

Wrong,Oberto and elson will keep on playing the same minutes,what gonna happen is that Spurs won´t play that much small ball anymore.I would say Horry,and bonner are done with this trade.

i think oberto is gone...he's just too small to be a PF in this league...but i'm not a gm so what do i know

[timvp]

Would the Spurs include Butler in a package for Maggette if LA requested it?

Even though I like Butler, I think you'd have to include him if it was a deal breaker.

[JPB]

Wrong,Oberto and elson will keep on playing the same minutes,what gonna happen is that Spurs won´t play that much small ball anymore.I would say Horry,and bonner are done with this trade.

bonner ? He was doing fine before he got injured.

[Mr. Body]

But who wants Oberto?

[Mr. Body]

Butler in a Maggette trade? Absolutely.

[AFBlue]

i think oberto is gone...he's just too small to be a PF in this league...but i'm not a gm so what do i know

He's not too small, he's just not good enough to be getting the minutes he gets...simple as that.

[VaSpursFan]

bonner ? He was doing fine before he got injured.

i think you keep bonner...he's your hustle/dirty work player.

[T Park]

IMO Oberto is gone.

Hes a veteran, and there have been some instances where you read teams were "interested"

Its not gonna be for a player, but for a second rounder probobly this year, and the way people feel about second round picks all of a sudden, this place will explode :lol

[AFBlue]

But who wants Oberto?

Jerry West?

Atkins is on that team....

[T Park]

If the Clippers came and said Barry and Butler for maggette, id pack Butler and Barry's bags for em.

[AFBlue]

i think you keep bonner...he's your hustle/dirty work player.

Unless he's the guy the Clippers want for Maggette...then he's GONE!

[timvp]

Again, the Spurs have wanted this guy for a long, long time. Perhaps they see something in him that others haven't seen.

Perhaps he played in a summer league somewhere and caught their eye. Hmmm . . .

[VaSpursFan]

He's not too small, he's just not good enough to be getting the minutes he gets...simple as that.

his lack of hops make him small and he's too weak...but you could cover all that by saying that he's not good enough :lol

[T Park]

If you trade Oberto for Atkins.


You get Melvin Ely and Chucky Atkins for Eric Williams and Fabricio Oberto.


Does this team jump back into contention with phoenix and Dallas?


BTW, would you say Ely is like an udonis haslem type player? :)

[AFBlue]

If the Clippers came and said Barry and Butler for maggette, id pack Butler and Barry's bags for em.

How nice of you... :lol

[td4mvp21]

If the Clippers came and said Barry and Butler for maggette, id pack Butler and Barry's bags for em.

The only thing is, you're giving up a great three point shooter. It's not like Finley is going to fill that void.

[Buddy Holly]

Brent, Oberto, Beno + Scola's rights, cash, and picks for Maggette and Livingston.

[FromWayDowntown]

No one rolls with 7 bigs.

The Spurs have to be doing something else soon, I believe.

I could see it if Butler is truly a forward-looking project and the Spurs believe that they can use one or more of the other bigs as a quasi-wing, almost like Pop did with Malik at times. But I'm not sure that either premise is true right now. I guess one possibility is that Bonner will essentially become a 3-ish type player (he basically was that before) and with Butler not playing at all, the Spurs are only then carrying 5 guys who will play in the 4/5 positions.

But with the way that they've been battered athletically this season, one would think this organization would be quite uncomfortable with the notion of relying on a bulky 6'10" guy with a bad knee to get out on the floor and defend long wings.

[ArgSpursFan]

i think oberto is gone...he's just too small to be a PF in this league...but i'm not a gm so what do i know

I just hope Pop doesn´t play this small ball bullshit that much anymore.

[velik_m]

Another 3rd stringer for the spurs.

I think the bobcats are under minimum cap, so they lose nothing by trading for bigger contract, plus they will be compensated by the spurs with cash.

[Ariel]

Much to my regret, I have to agree it's Oberto who is the odd man out. With Bonner getting back and now Ely, and considering Horry is practically untradeable and Elson and Butler fit the C spot better, I think it's him who'll be on his way in short.

Would the Spurs include Butler in a package for Maggette if LA requested it?
They better! Hell, I'd throw in my kid sister's virginity if it helps.

Of course the Clippers still wouldn't do it.

[T Park]

how nice of you

It would be the least i could do since I wont attend a home game till April :lol

[VaSpursFan]

Unless he's the guy the Clippers want for Maggette...then he's GONE!

hell yeah... :toast to maggette

[timvp]

Brent, Oberto, Beno + Scola's rights, cash, and picks for Maggette and Livingston.

Uh the Clippers wouldn't trade Livingston for Iverson. It's safe to say they wouldn't trade him for Beno.

[baseline bum]

It's being reported the deal may be Beno+Williams+Cash and Picks for Ely and May or Knight.

http://www.courttv.com/graphics/onair/shows/mugshots/indepth/gold_club/goldclub_oakley_b.jpg

[AFBlue]

The only thing is, you're giving up a great three point shooter. It's not like Finley is going to fill that void.

Maggette draws fouls like crazy and even when his shot isn't going down, he averages 80% from the FT line. When you have "shooters" and the shots aren't falling it aint good. As good as Barry is, he's not automatic from long range and his driving ability has diminished with age.

[MoSpur]

Did the Spurs make this trade already knowing they have another deal in the works including one of their bigs?

[T Park]

WTF is Buddy Holly smoking :lmao

[ShoogarBear]

Even though I like Butler, I think you'd have to include him if it was a deal breaker.But you and I would have done Barry + Beno + chump change for Maggette, too.

The question is, would the Spurs do it?

[VaSpursFan]

I just hope Pop doesn´t play this small ball bullshit that much anymore.

:toast to a return to spurs ball. i think ely has the athleticism to keep us big.

[T Park]

:lmao @ BB

[td4mvp21]

Maggette draws fouls like crazy and even when his shot isn't going down, he averages 80% from the FT line. When you have "shooters" and the shots aren't falling it aint good. As good as Barry is, he's not automatic from long range and his driving ability has diminished with age.
Yeah, I would do that trade in a heartbeat, I was just saying it would suck losing a good three point shooter. Maggette would make that up though :smokin.

[AFBlue]

Did the Spurs make this trade already knowing they have another deal in the works including one of their bigs?

Possible...but again, they've got time...

10 days and counting....

[Mr. Body]

But you and I would have done Barry + Beno + chump change for Maggette, too.

The question is, would the Spurs do it?

If the Spurs have plans like some here suggest of trading Oberto or another big for a PG.

[VaSpursFan]

The only thing is, you're giving up a great three point shooter. It's not like Finley is going to fill that void.

the league rules reward perimeter players who attack the basket and the spurs have no-one that could do this. i could live without Barry's 3's, we still have a capable manu and bonner was hitting that shot before he got injured. getting a slasher that can draw fouls and create foul problems for the opposing team is what we need.

[Drive Like Jehu]

Six posts on the active roster would provide a lot of fouls if they want to pummel players in the paint during the playoffs.

[timvp]

Did the Spurs make this trade already knowing they have another deal in the works including one of their bigs?

Doubt it. The Spurs' first order of business was getting under the luxury threshold by any means possible. This trade completed that task.

I thought the trade was going to be Williams for Hermann, a 2nd rounder and cash. But the Spurs did better than that because Ely >>>> Hermann.

[td4mvp21]

Six posts on the active roster would provide a lot of fouls if they want to pummel players in the paint during the playoffs.
Hmm sounds like a plan to me, lets play dirty! :stirpot:

[Marklar MM]

Nice pick up for the Spurs. :)

[ArgSpursFan]

bonner ? He was doing fine before he got injured.

yes he was,you right,but I don´t know what´s gonna happen when he gets back.+elson and oberto can share the C spot,and looks like this guy will be TD´s buck up.
I really think POP is done with this small ball bullshit.
Pop may play bonner too,he has a decent mid and long range shot too.But not 16 mpg like he was playing before this trade.
Horry is getting screw if this work out for the spurs,cause i think Pop is coming back to the basics,just old school basketball,with 2 guards,2 forwads(SF and PF)and a Center.
FUCK SMALL BALL.

[MoSpur]

Possible...but again, they've got time...

10 days and counting....

True, but they like everyone on this board know that they have to address their backup PG issue along with trying to get a young and athletic three. They now have seven guys who play the four or five. At least one of them has to go.

[Buddy Holly]

Uh the Clippers wouldn't trade Livingston for Iverson. It's safe to say they wouldn't trade him for Beno.

Pipe dream... let me have it.

[Buddy Holly]

http://www.courttv.com/graphics/onair/shows/mugshots/indepth/gold_club/goldclub_oakley_b.jpg

Hells yeah! :hungry:

[timvp]

If Ely is re-signed, you can officially kiss Scola goodbye. Ely and Scola are pretty damn close to the same player.

[Das Texan]

works for me.


we gave up nothing, got a lil something and save cash.


mission accomplished for peter.

now maybe we can add someone who can spell tony for 10 minutes a night.

[Buddy Holly]

WTF is Buddy Holly smoking :lmao

Yeah, because fantasy trades can't be posted on here?

[Mr. Body]

I look forward to the insane debate this summer on how much Melvin Ely is worth a year.

[ShoogarBear]

If the Spurs have plans like some here suggest of trading Oberto or another big for a PG.Well, my question referred back to the idea of Butler as a sweetner for getting Maggette.

I don't think the backup point guard question is even remotely as critical as the swingman athleticism issue. And at some point you're going to want six fouls to throw at Yao or Shaq in the playoffs. So if they're not going to play Butler, I would be in favor of them using him to get Maggette and keep Oberto for the 1/8 games he's useful.

[SenorSpur]

Would the Spurs include Butler in a package for Maggette if LA requested it?

At this point, I'd hate to do it. However if it meant getting the Maggette deal done and perhaps a backup PG (Ewing) in return, I'd do that deal.

[baseline bum]

Even though I like Butler, I think you'd have to include him if it was a deal breaker.

Are Butler and Elson at all tradeable right now, though? I don't know the new CBA very well... have they removed the base-year compensation issues that made it virtually impossible to trade a signed free agent in the first year of his contract?

[JPB]

yes he was,you right,but I don´t know what´s gonna happen when he gets back.+elson and oberto can share the C spot,and looks like this guy will be TD buck up.
I really think POP is don with this small ball bullshit.
Pop may play bonner too,he has a decent mid and long range shot too.But not 16 mpg like he was playing before this trade.
Horry is getting screw if this work out for the spurs,cause i think Pop is coming back to the basics,just old school basketball,with 2 guards,2 forwads(SF and PF)and a Center.
FUCK SMALL BALL.

i think if he comes back 100% and his shooting is fine he'll play minutes at the 3 spot, specially if Fin struggles.

[td4mvp21]

So when is Ely going to play with us? Probably after the break right?

[steppy]

So Ely is in a contract year? That explains why he wants more playing time and could be a blessing in disguise for the Spurs.

[MoSpur]

I guess my Gerald Wallace as a Spur dream is over.

[Bruno]

Ely 02 predraft camp measurement :
Height withoyut shoes 6'9"
Height with shoes 6'10"
Wingspan 7'4" :tu
Standing reach 9'3" :tu
Waeight : 240 lbs

[VaSpursFan]

So when is Ely going to play with us? Probably after the break right?

he'll be here as soon as the deal is finalized and passes his physical

[Drive Like Jehu]

Hmm sounds like a plan to me, lets play dirty! :stirpot:

Not dirty, just physical. Basketball is a physical game in the paint. I wouldn't mind knocking Dirk on his ass in the playoffs when he drives inside this year. I can live with Dirk's jumpshot. It was his interior play that changed the series last year, and that was AJ's influence.

[MoSpur]

Am I wrong, but does Ely bring toughness to this team. Like Kersey did?

[td4mvp21]

he'll be here as soon as the deal is finalized and passes his physical
Hopefully by tomorrow night because we are going to get raped on the boards by Detroit.

[AFBlue]

Well, my question referred back to the idea of Butler as a sweetner for getting Maggette.

I don't think the backup point guard question is even remotely as critical as the swingman athleticism issue. And at some point you're going to want six fouls to throw at Yao or Shaq in the playoffs. So if they're not going to play Butler, I would be in favor of them using him to get Maggette and keep Oberto for the 1/8 games he's useful.

The backup PG issue isn't nearly as critical as getting Corey Maggette, but I think it's just as critical as getting that long 3/small ball 4. It's also more feasible to get a backup PG than it is to get a replacement for Finley at that long 3/small ball 4 spot. Outside of Maggette, who could come in and contribute immediately at that spot? Conversely, there are plenty of backup PG that could come in behind Parker (Atkins, Arroyo, Diener, etc.). I'm not saying you're totally wrong on priorities....just that they are both concerns and one is more "fixable" than the other.

[ChumpDumper]

Height with shoes 6'10"John Thompson would say 6' 10 and 1/3"

[td4mvp21]

Not dirty, just physical. Basketball is a physical game in the paint. I wouldn't mind knocking Dirk on his ass in the playoffs when he drives inside this year. I can live with Dirk's jumpshot. It was his interior play that changed the series last year, and that was AJ's influence.

:lol Yeah I agree.

[AFBlue]

John Thompson would say 6' 10 and 1/3"
:rollin

HILARIOUS!

[MannyIsGod]

Eh good trade, but I promise you we'll be bitching about the exact same things for the next 3 months unless something else gets done.

[SenorSpur]

I guess my Gerald Wallace as a Spur dream is over.

I hear ya. If the Spurs cannot pry Maggette from the Clips, I'd love to see them go after him.

Bobcats owner Bob Johnson is a notorious cheapskate. It's unlikely that he'll ante up to keep Wallace. Of course, that scenario likely wont play out until the summer.

Keep the dream alive.

[AFBlue]

Are Butler and Elson at all tradeable right now, though? I don't know the new CBA very well... have they removed the base-year compensation issues that made it virtually impossible to trade a signed free agent in the first year of his contract?

Base-year deals mostly with extensions to pre-existing contracts. Butler and Elson signed new contracts for around $2.5M and $3M respectively.

[ShoogarBear]

Eh good trade, but I promise you we'll be bitching about the exact same things for the next 3 months unless something else gets done.Nah, I'm not nearly as paranoid about my driveway.

[timvp]

Well, my question referred back to the idea of Butler as a sweetner for getting Maggette.

I don't think the backup point guard question is even remotely as critical as the swingman athleticism issue. And at some point you're going to want six fouls to throw at Yao or Shaq in the playoffs. So if they're not going to play Butler, I would be in favor of them using him to get Maggette and keep Oberto for the 1/8 games he's useful.

I'd way rather trade Butler than Oberto. Butler has promise down the line. Oberto's vertical isn't going to improve anytime soon.

And I don't think Oberto is good enough to effect the championship hopes one way or the other.

[George Gervin's Afro]

Doubt it. The Spurs' first order of business was getting under the luxury threshold by any means possible. This trade completed that task.

I thought the trade was going to be Williams for Hermann, a 2nd rounder and cash. But the Spurs did better than that because Ely >>>> Hermann.


Did I miss who or what we actually traded for Ely?

[ArgSpursFan]

If Ely is re-signed, you can officially kiss Scola goodbye. Ely and Scola are pretty damn close to the same player.

We´ll see about that when Scola comes down to the NBA next summer,I bet scola can average more tham 2ppg ad 3 rpg in the NBA,even in his rocckie year.And I haven´t seen Ely´s salary but I bet he gets more tham 3 M p/year .

[AFBlue]

Did I miss who or what we actually traded for Ely?

Williams & 2009 2nd rd pick...

A.K.A. - Nothing....unless that second round pick turns out to be Manu Ginobili v. 2012 :lol

[timvp]

Did I miss who or what we actually traded for Ely?

Williams, 2009 second round pick and cash.

[George Gervin's Afro]

why do I feel bad for Williams?

[Kori Ellis]

We´ll see about that when Scola comes down to the NBA nest summer,I bet scola can average more tham 2ppg ad 3 rpg in the NBA,even in his rocckie year.And I haven´t seen Ely´s salary but I bet he gets more tham 3 M p/year .

3.3M and he's averaged 6.3 points and 3.6 rebounds in the NBA.

[Bruno]

I guess that the 09 second is Hornets second round pick they got in the Rasho trade. So Spurs have turned Rasho and his big contract into Bonner + Ely. :)

[duncan228]

I'm in Southern California. Not only did the Spurs make a trade, (after all the we will stick with what we have talk), it was hailing here for ten minutes just now. I'm watching for the flying pigs. There's nothing I won't believe now.

[ArgSpursFan]

3.3M and he's averaged 6.3 points and 3.6 rebounds in the NBA.

i know,last year he averaged 9.8 ppg and 4.9 rpg.
I still think scola can do better tham that in his roockie year.

[ShoogarBear]

I'd way rather trade Butler than Oberto. I presume you meant to transpose that?

I agree. I just can't imagine why the Clippers would ever want Oberto, while Butler might make them interested.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

I'm with Kori. Seven bigs, when you need some athleticism on the wing and a backup PG?

Bring on trade #2.

[MoSpur]

I know ArgSpursFan is huge on Scola, but he needs to get over Scola getting 3 million per year. Unless ArgSpursFan is Scola's agent. Hmm...

[Russ]

Production-wise, this looks like a lateral move. But in Pop/RC we must believe. :)

(I remember Ely being a bit of a dissapointment with the Clippers -- but he did have his supporters.)

[duncan228]

FYI- It finally made it onto Spurs.com.

[Spurs Brazil]

2004-05:
Appeared in 79 games with averages of 7.3 points, 4.1 rebounds and 1.0 assists in 20.9 minutes… Ranked third on the team with 69 blocks… In 17 starts, he averaged 12.9 points, 7.9 rebounds and 1.5 assists in 32.9 minutes while connecting on .466 of his shot attempts… Reached double-figure scoring 24 times (13 times as a starter) and double-figure rebounding five times… Posted four doubles-doubles on the season against Indiana on Dec. 29 (14 points / 11 rebounds), at Portland on Feb. 4 (16 points / 11 rebounds), at Indiana on Feb. 9 (20 points / 17 rebounds) and against New York, (12 points / 11 rebounds)… Set new career highs in points (22 at Seattle, Feb. 5), rebounds (17 at Indiana, Feb. 9), blocks (6 at Utah, Feb. 1) and minutes played (42, three times)… Averaged 12.6 points, 7.6 rebounds and 1.8 blocks, while shooting .465 from the field in the month of February… Recorded more points and played more minutes in 2004-05 than his first two NBA seasons combined.

PRO CAREER:
Drafted by the L.A. Clippers with the 12th overall pick in the 2002 NBA Draft… Completed his second season with the Clippers in 2003-04 and appeared in 42 games with two starts… Averaged 3.7 points and 2.1 rebounds in 12.1 minutes… Recorded eight games with 20-plus minutes and in those games averaged 6.5 points and 5.8 rebounds… Earned his two starts after he posted career highs of 15 points and five blocks in 34 minutes, in addition to eight rebounds against Denver on Nov. 29… In his first start he had eight points and seven rebounds on December 1 against San Antonio… Tallied 10 points and eight rebounds in 23 minutes against Washington on March 25… Missed 13 games with the flu… In his rookie season with the Clippers he played in 52 games (seven starts) and averaged 4.5 points, 3.3 rebounds and shot .495 from the field in 15.4 minutes… Finished the season with averages of 6.1 points and 4.8 rebounds in February and 6.3 points and 4.3 rebounds in March… Registered his career high with 12 rebounds (including eight offensive rebounds) and added 12 points for his first career double-double at Sacramento on March 27, 2003… Also had a season-best 14 points with seven rebounds at Detroit on Feb. 5, 2003… Began his rookie season on the injured list with a sprained left foot before he made his NBA debut on Nov. 28, 2002 against New Jersey… Posted his first career start in his third game, on Dec. 1, 2002 against Indiana and had six points and six rebounds.


COLLEGE:
Was the all-time leading scorer in Fresno State history with 1,951 points and finished his career with 15.7 points, 7.5 rebounds, 2.9 blocks and .577 from the field in 124 games… Ranks first in Fresno State history with 362 blocked shots, second all-time in the Western Athletic Conference (WAC) and second in school history with 924 total rebounds… Named WAC Player of the Year as a junior and senior, the first player to do so since Utah’s Keith Van Horn of the Dallas Mavericks did in 1994 and 1995… Also earned All-America honors as a junior and senior… Finished his career fourth in WAC history in points and second in blocked shots… Averaged 23.3 points, 9.1 rebounds and 3.2 blocks as a senior and placed fifth in the nation in scoring and 13th in blocked shots… Recorded 21 games of 20 or more points with 11 double-doubles… As a junior, led the WAC in field goal percentage (.583)… Reached double-figure scoring in 28 of the team’s 33 games that season… Set a school record as a sophomore with 92 blocks (3.0 per game) to go along with his 13.3 points and 7.0 rebounds per game average… Named All-WAC Newcomer Team and All-Defensive Team as a freshman… Averaged 11.2 points and reached double figure scoring 21 times.


http://www.nba.com/playerfile/melvin_ely/bio.html

[MoSpur]

Damn, 83 members viewing this thread.

[timvp]

I presume you meant to transpose that?

Yeah, my bad.

If Bonner and Ely are re-signed, I could see bigs of Bonner, Ely, Butler and Mahinmi down the line. Depending on how they develop, that's a pretty talented foursome and they all have varied skills.

[MoSpur]

I always for ex-Clippers coming to the Spurs. I love my Clippers. I wish Sterling would open his eyes.

[Kori Ellis]

FYI- It finally made it onto Spurs.com.

That's because the official press release just came out a few minutes ago. So the official sites don't post anything until that happens.

[AFBlue]

FYI- It finally made it onto Spurs.com.

STILL not on ESPN! And R.C. is set to speak to the media on it in 20 minutes...

[Kori Ellis]

STILL not on ESPN! And R.C. is set to speak to the media on it in 20 minutes...

That's okay. I don't ESPN will be there, just local media.

[MoSpur]

STILL not on ESPN! And R.C. is set to speak to the media on it in 20 minutes...

What station should we tune into?

[AFBlue]

That's okay. I don't ESPN will be there, just local media.


Sorry....meant to specify ESPN.com

You'd at least figure they'd have that covered...

[duncan228]

For those of us not in SA, think it's worth seeing if NBATV will carry it?

[ArgSpursFan]

I know ArgSpursFan is huge on Scola, but he needs to get over Scola getting 3 million per year. Unless ArgSpursFan is Scola's agent. Hmm...

heheheh,who know?????
seriusly,It all over the news in arg. that if luis is gonna have to pay part of his buy out,he wants trhe spurs to make it up to him by giving him a better salary,not that scola worthes 3 M p/year in his roockie season.

[ShoogarBear]

Yeah, my bad.

If Bonner and Ely are re-signed, I could see bigs of Bonner, Ely, Butler and Mahinmi down the line. Depending on how they develop, that's a pretty talented foursome and they all have varied skills.:lol

Sorry, when I read that I couldn't help but think of this:

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/media/photo/2002-02/1890708.jpg

[MoSpur]

More of this is a good thing. We need to improve on defense.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/teams/photo?photoId=1438326&team=cha

[timvp]

Ely 02 predraft camp measurement :
Height withoyut shoes 6'9"
Height with shoes 6'10"
Wingspan 7'4" :tu
Standing reach 9'3" :tu
Waeight : 240 lbs

Damn. To compare, Mo Sene of the Sonics has the biggest wingspan in the NBA at 7'8". Sene's standing reach is 9'5".

260 pounds and the traits to be a good shotblocker? For Williams and junk?

I'll take it.

:smokin

[Horry For 3!]

I guess Ely will be playing for the Spurs after the all-star break.

[The_Game]

problem is ely is a bad defender

[timvp]

problem is ely is a bad defender

Not really. In every year in his career, opponents averaged less points when he's on the court compared to when he's off it. That's a pretty good track record as a defender.

[ShoogarBear]

Not really. In every year in his career, opponents averaged less points when he's on the court compared to when he's off it. That's a pretty good track record as a defender.Elminating the possibility that that's not just because the game slowed down with him in it, I hope.

[AFBlue]

problem is ely is a bad defender

No he's got all the tools to be a great defender and has shown the ability to be a good shot blocker. His problem isn't skill, it's his intensity/desire. I'm not saying that will change, but it's possible for a player in his contract year to "flip a switch" and play over his head if he thinks it'll get him more $$$.

IF this kid plays to his potential, he could be good for the Spurs....

That's if he plays at all...

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

problem is ely is a bad defender

Problem is you obviously haven't watched him play that much.

If Ely can learn the Spurs defensive system by the end of the regular season he will either be starting or the first big off the bench.

[Zarko]

Rip this bio information off the web...

Full name is Melvin Anderson Ely
Has one son, Melvin Anderson Ely Jr. (4)
Son of Melvina and Jaime Brown
Has three siblings, Louis (32), Eric (29) and Brandon (18)
Older brother, Louis, played college basketball at Wisconsin
A native of Harvey, Illinois, he is a distant cousin of former NBA player Dale Ellis, who played for Bobcats General Manager & Head Coach Bernie Bickerstaff in Seattle from 1986-90 and won the 1987 Most Improved Player Award
Was on Team USA at the 2001 World University Games in China and averaged 10.5 points and a team-best 6.3 rebounds
Was tabbed “the most sought after post player” by Sports Illustrated as a senior at Thornton High School in 1997
Was a high school teammate of NFL receivers Antwan Randel-El and Tai Streets
He lists the Chicago Bears and Chicago Cubs as his favorite sports teams outside of basketball.

I would say that he and Timmy might be able to bond instantly over their love for the BEARS.

[timvp]

he is a distant cousin of former NBA player Dale Ellis

Now you know he'll be a stud.

:smokin

[SAtown]

A native of Harvey, Illinois, he is a distant cousin of former NBA player Dale Ellis, who played for Bobcats General Manager & Head Coach Bernie Bickerstaff in Seattle from 1986-90 and won the 1987 Most Improved Player Award


Sweet. Dale Ellis brings back memories

[johnpaulwall21]

DAMN 15 pages already for ELY we really must be desperate.........................

[sribb43]

another guy for Dirk to torch

[Mr. Body]

One thing this actually helps is Dallas' wussiness against physical teams. One physical guy (vs. Miami's several) is not enough, but I could see Ely knock Harris down once or twice.

[AFBlue]

DAMN 15 pages already for ELY we really must be desperate.........................

In less than 2 hours too....

Imagine if the Spurs got Maggette!

[MoSpur]

I think Ely is going to be a guy that Cuban is going to blog about being too rough on his Mavericks.

[Bruno]

I'm not sure that Spurs will be under the tax after this trade : I think that they are still $300k over.

[timvp]

I'm not sure that Spurs will be under the tax after this trade : I think that they are still $300k over.

:madrun

[timvp]

One thing this actually helps is Dallas' wussiness against physical teams. One physical guy (vs. Miami's several) is not enough, but I could see Ely knock Harris down once or twice.

Good point.

[nkdlunch]

I'm not sure that Spurs will be under the tax after this trade : I think that they are still $300k over.

trade Beno for a bag of sawdust?

[VaSpursFan]

another guy for Dirk to torch

or another guy to knock him on his ass like haslem.

[ChumpDumper]

trade Beno for a bag of sawdust?More like Oberto to Houston for their injury exception.

[ArgSpursFan]

Not really. In every year in his career, opponents averaged less points when he's on the court compared to when he's off it. That's a pretty good track record as a defender.

he is below average on the boards for a Pf. 3.6 rpg in almost 18 mpg.
He is gonna have to do better tham that to solve the spurs lack of rebounding

[ArgSpursFan]

DAMN 15 pages already for ELY we really must be desperate.........................

i have to admit it,you are so right.

[sungo99]

Elminating the possibility that that's not just because the game slowed down with him in it, I hope.

I am familiar with the numbers timvp is referring to, and they are based on points per possession; therefore adjusted for pace.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Can't wait to see Andre 3000 suit up.

[Bruno]

:madrun

In fact it's quite a good news : Spurs will likely do another move.

[ShoogarBear]

I'm not sure that Spurs will be under the tax after this trade : I think that they are still $300k over.:rollin

[T Park]

Damn, 7 foot wingspan.

Could we have another shot blocker next to Duncan again?

Please tell me he can comprehend rotations on defense :pray:

[Dirk Nowitzki]

Nice pickup. Ely could be a better overall player then Mbenga pre season injury version. Problem is we still got a great shotblocker in Diop and a rebounding monster in Dampier.

[DarkReign]

DAMN this trade! Its broken the God-damned forum! Stop already. Hes a scrub, a minor upgrade. Its not KG, GW, or even Kwame Brown, ok? Its Melvin-fucking-Ely.




j/k

[Texas_Ranger]

Better he than no one.

[50 cent]

It's a start. I'm ready for the next move now.

[T Park]

I'm ready for the next move now.


You've got a long wait till July my friend....

[whottt]

DAMN this trade! Its broken the God-damned forum! Stop already. Hes a scrub, a minor upgrade. Its not KG, GW, or even Kwame Brown, ok? Its Melvin-fucking-Ely.




j/k


You shoulda seen the 20 pager when Sean Marks came off the IR...

This is Spurs Talk.

[DarkReign]

You shoulda seen the 20 pager when Sean Marks came off the IR...

This is Spurs Talk.

Hehe, if its anything like the playoff gameday threads, I have a pretty good idea.

I know its SpursTalk, thank you for the reminder though. It was more a joke than anything else. A very, very active board + marginal trade = forum slowdown.

[Kori Ellis]

Hehe, if its anything like the playoff gameday threads, I have a pretty good idea.

I know its SpursTalk, thank you for the reminder though. It was more a joke than anything else. A very, very active board + marginal trade = forum slowdown.

The forum is slow for you?
It's regular speed to me.

[DarkReign]

The forum is slow for you?
It's regular speed to me.

No, no...not anymore. It was initially when the news broke. Nevermind. This is getting way too serious.

[Kori Ellis]

No, no...not anymore. It was initially when the news broke. Nevermind. This is getting way too serious.

Oh, that had nothing to do with the news/busy-ness of the forum - I thought the same thing. Slomo/Mitja were doing some log purge of the forum or something at that time.

I was just asking you because sometimes the forum is going fast for some people and not for others.

Don't worry about it.

[DarkReign]

Oh, that had nothing to do with the news/busy-ness of the forum - I thought the same thing. Slomo/Mitja were doing some log purge of the forum or something at that time.

I was just asking you because sometimes the forum is going fast for some people and not for others.

Don't worry about it.

Ah, thanks Kori. Yeah, it was just really delayed for awhile. Must have been during the maintenance.

You can try and use logic and reason to thwart me, but I still blame it on this thread. Get a job, hippies!