Pop is dumb.

[SequSpur]

Right now he could be developing his younger players in White, Ely and Butler. Instead we have to see Finley, Oberto, Vaughn, Beno and Bonner play during mop up time...

This mother fucker hasn't learned a got damn thing from his losses to the top teams in the NBA....

Is he fukin dumb or what? Why in the fuck do you have 3 youngsters watching in suits???? FUCK IN A man.....

:pctoss

[ducks]

they are on the ir

[SequSpur]

they are on the ir

No shit Jeffie.

[Spurs Brazil]

Pop should rotate one of those 3 guys to give them a chance in games like today

Oberto and Beno could sit on IL

[midgetonadonkey]

Finley needs more playing time than Butler or White. That old bastard needs to start hitting shots because you know he will be in at critical times in the playoffs.

[ducks]

duncan should sit on the il and give them a chance to play
after all sequ thinks he is a dumb ass anyhow

[mavs>spurs2]

Why the hell is Ely on the IL instead of Oberto? At least Ely has potential to get better and can't be any worse than Oberto.....how he even made the NBA is beyond me.

[ducks]

mike had 5 assist tonight

[ginobili fan]

Oberto>Diop

[mavs>spurs2]

Oberto>Diop

And you're a fucking moron. Diop gets more blocks in one game than Oberto has in his career.

[ginobili fan]

:lmao only mavs fans get mad for a joke... :lmao

[mavs>spurs2]

:lol who's mad? I was hoping you're joking but I don't know what to think anymore after I saw the crap that Jeffdrums guy was writing....

[ginobili fan]

:lol anyway Tim>Dirk
:lol

[SequSpur]

Beno should be parking cars.

[GrandeDavid]

:lmao only mavs fans get mad for a joke... :lmao

Exactly! I thought the same thing. Pretty funny. Some of these fans are fun to antagonize. :lol

[AFBlue]

Beno should be parking cars.

He didn't play half bad tonight. I honestly think Beno does better when the expectations for him are at zero. I say he didn't play half bad because I expected him to miss every shot and have 6 turnovers in 10 minutes... :lol

[SequSpur]

Beno has already proved himself. He should be parking cars.

[AFBlue]

Beno has already proved himself. He should be parking cars.

I honestly don't think the final chapter has been written with Beno and the Spurs. Obviously he's here to stay until summertime and he started off with such promise. It seems funny to say that a team can't get an accurate read on a player after 3 years with the team, but Beno has really been so inconsistent that the Spurs might actually benefit from the next few months of evaluating him. I'm sure he'll be showcased in plenty of trade talk during the off-season, but I doubt the Spurs have written him off completely as you suggest.

[ducks]

beno will be packaged to move up in the draft

[5ToolMan]

Right now he could be developing his younger players in White, Ely and Butler. Instead we have to see Finley, Oberto, Vaughn, Beno and Bonner play during mop up time...

This mother fucker hasn't learned a got damn thing from his losses to the top teams in the NBA....

Is he fukin dumb or what? Why in the fuck do you have 3 youngsters watching in suits???? FUCK IN A man.....

:pctoss

If you want to make a point that White, Ely and Butler can do more for the team this year than Finley, Oberto, Vaughn, and Beno we would be glad to discuss your reasoning.

If you can't make that point you need to spare us your childish tirades and try to think before you spew. Until the NBA makes a rule that you can activate players in the middle games, your post is shallow and ignorant.

There is not a coach in the league that would want to go into any playoff series with your mentioned projects than with proven role players. The Spurs are just getting to the point where they start to hit their playoff stride. They have won five in a row by playing better team defense and solid bench production.

[AFBlue]

Back to the issue of this thread...

Pop can't know which games will be blowouts and which games will be in close contention. He can't know who will have off-nights and who will get into foul trouble. His job is to put the 12 players most capable of helping the team win on that bench. If he feels that Oberto gives them a chance over Ely and that Beno gives them a better chance than White, he should go with those players.

Player development is done in practice and during the off-season for Championship teams. If you want the players to develop that badly, hope that one of the big 3 goes down with an injury (Wade-style), then you'll see your James White, Melvin Ely, and Jackie Butler. I, for one, am happy the Spurs don't have to employ developmental players on the regular 12-man roster...

[Mr. Body]

beno will be packaged to move up in the draft

What would he get you there? Five spots in the late second round?

[mikejones99]

Pop is a genius, some spurs fans even wanted that great pt. guard Luke from Seattle. How was he tonight?

[SequSpur]

If you want to make a point that White, Ely and Butler can do more for the team this year than Finley, Oberto, Vaughn, and Beno we would be glad to discuss your reasoning.

If you can't make that point you need to spare us your childish tirades and try to think before you spew. Until the NBA makes a rule that you can activate players in the middle games, your post is shallow and ignorant.

There is not a coach in the league that would want to go into any playoff series with your mentioned projects than with proven role players. The Spurs are just getting to the point where they start to hit their playoff stride. They have won five in a row by playing better team defense and solid bench production.

Proven role players? :drunk

[5ToolMan]

Proven role players? :drunk

Rating Finley and Oberto "proven role players" only took one beer or two. I will give you, the last two took a case. But with White, Butler and Ely you would pass out before you could get there. :smokin

[Solid D]

Usually, players have to show Pop something in practice. Pop normally starts getting his top 8 or 9 rotation players hitting on all cylinders in the stretch run. Bonner needs some playing time following his injury, since he's earned some minutes with his good play this year. White, Butler and Beno are there for injury protection. Probably Ely is too, but that remains to be seen.

I watched White shooting before a Spurs game one time from the wings and corners and he was sorry. Chip wasn't even guarding him. :lol Why the J-White love?

[Despot]

I've been wondering lately why the Spurs called up White rather than let him play in the NBDL. Did they feel thar practicing with NBA talent would benefit him more than playing in the NBDL? A contract issue? In case of a trade?

[Kori Ellis]

I've been wondering lately why the Spurs called up White rather than let him play in the NBDL. Did they feel thar practicing with NBA talent would benefit him more than playing in the NBDL? A contract issue? In case of a trade?

The first time they called him up (earlier in the season) was because of some injuries. This latest call up was because they wanted him to get in practice time with the Spurs.

[The Truth #6]

I would think Ely will get some sort of shot. He seems motivated. I don't think Pop would throw away a 2nd round pick to get him and not get a chance to see what he can do. But who knows, if Pop doesn't like what he sees in practice then Ely might not get a chance. And, the closer we get to the playoffs the less likely Ely will get a chance to get in to Pop's shrinking rotation.

[Cry Havoc]

Proven troll players? :drunk


Why are you so self-depreciating, Sequ?

[SoCalSpursFan]

Right now he could be developing his younger players in White, Ely and Butler. Instead we have to see Finley, Oberto, Vaughn, Beno and Bonner play during mop up time...

This mother fucker hasn't learned a got damn thing from his losses to the top teams in the NBA....

Is he fukin dumb or what? Why in the fuck do you have 3 youngsters watching in suits???? FUCK IN A man.....

:pctoss

I've been on Spurstalk for a while, but is it just me or is sequ anti-spur?

[ManuTim_best of Fwiendz]

I've been on Spurstalk for a while, but is it just me or is sequ anti-spur?
He's the Spurstalk enigma.

[silk]

with jeff drums he's one of the brightest signs of spurs fans decline

[TheThinkingMan]

I think Pop knows what he's doing.

[Obstructed_View]

Last I heard, they are trying to rush Ely back into shape. He's not ready to play yet but he's running his ass off. If the Spurs keep playing well enough to extend garbage time, I expect to see him within the next four or five games.

[GrandeDavid]

Beno has already proved himself. He should be parking cars.

:lol

I wouldn't trust him parking my car. I'm sure he'd flip it over somehow, even though it was a straight shot between the lines.

[Obstructed_View]

:lol

I wouldn't trust him parking my car. I'm sure he'd flip it over somehow, even though it was a straight shot between the lines.
I'd only trust Beno to park my car if Pop isn't sitting in the back seat watching him do it.

[GrandeDavid]

And you're a fucking moron. Diop gets more blocks in one game than Oberto has in his career.


What would possess you to call this person a "fucking moron" over a simple comment like that? Did he steal your woman? Did he call your mother out? Seriously, tone down the adolescent insults.

[Texas_Ranger]

I agree. I would rather put Beno on IR and give a chance to White or Ely.

[SPURS vs NBA media]

Beno should be parking cars.

an you should just :stfu

[joeyjfive]

:lol

I wouldn't trust him parking my car. I'm sure he'd flip it over somehow, even though it was a straight shot between the lines.


hahaha, I think thats sig worthy, IMO

[ChumpDumper]

I wouldn't trust him parking my car. I'm sure he'd flip it over somehow, even though it was a straight shot between the lines.He would just give the car to Chuck Hayes.

[Jimcs50]

He developes younger players when they are good.

ie. TD, TP and Manu, otherwise, he lets the better players play.

That is not dumb, that is being realistic.

[SequSpur]

He developes younger players when they are good.

ie. TD, TP and Manu, otherwise, he lets the better players play.

That is not dumb, that is being realistic.

Then why sign players that can't play then?

[AFBlue]

Then why sign players that can't play then?

It's not that they CAN'T play, it's that they aren't better than what the Spurs currently have....in Pop's opinion.

[Dave McNulla]

Then why sign players that can't play then?they learn in practice.

garbage time is primarily for starters to rest. if they have to go back in the game, it's not very restful. the garbage players need to be good enough to keep the lead, at least some of the time.