Why did Kobe take that last shot?

[Chris Childs]

The game was out of hand with 10 seconds left and he takes the shot just so he can hit 50.

That play pretty much sums up what Kobe is all about. Disrespect and selfishness.

[Medvedenko]

He was on the break and probably would have been fouled if he pulled it out....every player would do this.....

[mavsfan1000]

The game was out of hand with 10 seconds left and he takes the shot just so he can hit 50.

That play pretty much sums up what Kobe is all about. Disrespect and selfishness.
What sums up Chris Childs is that he is a total scrub. :lol

[Chris Childs]

What sums up Chris Childs is that he is a total scrub. :lol

Even though I hate Kobe....


62 in 3 qtrs......






NEXT.

[Chris Childs]

He was on the break and probably would have been fouled if he pulled it out....every player would do this.....

Not every player in the NBA would do that. The only player I think would only do that is selfish Kobe.

[Mixability]

That play pretty much sums up what Kobe is all about. Disrespect and selfishness.

And the last name Childs sums up what you're all about.

[mavsfan1000]

And the last name Childs sums up what you're all about.
owned. :lol

[Chris Childs]

And the last name Childs sums up what you're all about.

I can't believe a spurs fan and a mavs fan is taking up for Kobe.

What is this world coming to? :rolleyes

[Chris Childs]

owned. :lol

http://mavsin06finals.justgotowned.com



NEXT.

[Chris Childs]

To get back on topic,

What does everyone think of kobe and his selfish ways?

[monosylab1k]

http://mavsin06finals.justgotowned.com



NEXT.

New York Knickerbockers

2005-06 23-59
2004-05 33-49
2003-04 39-43
2002-03 37-45
2001-02 30-52

NEXT.

[Chris Childs]

New York Knickerbockers

2005-06 23-59
2004-05 33-49
2003-04 39-43
2002-03 37-45
2001-02 30-52

NEXT.

See I can go all day with this kind of stuff.....



Knicks titles - 2


Mavs titles - none whatsoever


NEXT.

[mavsfan1000]

Knicks in 99 Finals=owned.

[monosylab1k]

See I can go all day with this kind of stuff.....



Knicks titles - 2


Mavs titles - none whatsoever


NEXT.

Titles since both franchises have been in existence - none whatsoever.

NEXT.

[Mixability]

I can't believe a spurs fan and a mavs fan is taking up for Kobe.

What is this world coming to? :rolleyes

I don't see why you bitch about Kobe, was that your gf he bent over the couch in Colorado? I'm gonna tell you what he probably told her that night. GET THE FUCK OVER IT!

[Chris Childs]

Why are you mavs fans ruining my thread? The thread is about Kobe and you mavs fans especially mavs fans are the last ones I could think of trying to ruin my thread. I would of thought a laker fan would of done what you jerks did but you fans have no class at all.

[monosylab1k]

Why are you mavs fans ruining my thread? The thread is about Kobe and you mavs fans especially mavs fans are the last ones I could think of trying to ruin my thread. I would of thought a laker fan would of done what you jerks did but you fans have no class at all.

Because you're a faggot.

[JamStone]

Kobe didn't need to make that last shot, but I don't blame him for doing it. It got him 50, and many players would have done the same thing. Not all, but many would have to get to the 50 point mark. It's not a big deal. It was at the Staples Center so he wasn't showing up the fans of the opposing team. He was giving what the Lakers fans wanted to see. It might have been a little selfish, but I don't think it was that bad that he did it.

[ManuTim_best of Fwiendz]

Kobe didn't need to make that last shot, but I don't blame him for doing it. It got him 50, and many players would have done the same thing. Not all, but many would have to get to the 50 point mark. It's not a big deal. It was at the Staples Center so he wasn't showing up the fans of the opposing team. He was giving what the Lakers fans wanted to see. It might have been a little selfish, but I don't think it was that bad that he did it.

Yeah, my sentiments exactly. I mean, it's like when you want to see your player get the 10th rebound, 10th block to get the double, double, or triple double. Some situation's it's NOT SO bad, but ultimately, it's telling if the player cares about it or not, if it's NECESSARY. Records. Stats. Etc.

Like there had been games where Wade would have a potential triple double, but he wouldn't care. In Kobe's and Arenas case, and even Lebron (and I like Lebron, so I'm being unbiased in this comment right now) they try to go for it.

In Manu's case, most of his big games with big numbers, he's a REAL freak, because he's so SELFless all his crazy games are just incidental, because he's mainly trying to win for the team. Kobe's definitely playing for himself AND the team's along for the ride.

But in that case, meh. Homegame. It took Kobe like 5 shots in the final minute to try to get to 50. So yeah, it was pretty self-serving of him. But it's not *that* offensive if you think about it. Just kind of crude, or crass way of playing the game.

[Shank]

Because you're a faggot.

It's like poetry.

[ManuTim_best of Fwiendz]

I like Billy Costigan's posts.

[Supergirl]

Dude, if I had Kobe on my team, I'd want him taking the last shot, every single time.

Which is not to say he isn't a ball hog sometimes - though he's vastly improved this season - but just to say he is probably the single most clutch player in the NBA right now. He's a closer, in baseball terms. So, even though sometimes he's going to miss, I'd want him taking the last shot, or at least getting the ball on every last possession, every time.

[ponky]

so in this thread the only poster who agrees with chris childs is (big surprise), chris childs

[Medvedenko]

All I have to say with the recent rash of "selfish" kobe rants is....we won 2 games.
Also, if anyone of your team's players would of pulled #'s like 65 and 50 back to back these forums would be closed. It's like bitching about something that doesn't happen often. It hasn't happened in LA for 40+ years. As a NBA fan, take off the hater glasses and see true talent and greatness for what it is. It's quite sad as fans we can't take off our team colours and see what all of this represents. A player in a league of zone defenses and heightened double and triple teams, scoring like Wilt used to do is astounding.
Peace...

[Chris Childs]

Kobe didn't need to make that last shot, but I don't blame him for doing it. It got him 50, and many players would have done the same thing. Not all, but many would have to get to the 50 point mark. It's not a big deal. It was at the Staples Center so he wasn't showing up the fans of the opposing team. He was giving what the Lakers fans wanted to see. It might have been a little selfish, but I don't think it was that bad that he did it.

How come you dont blame him? Kobe said it himself that all he care's about is winning. That has nothing to do with the fans. He said I believe when him and Gilbert was going at it, he said he doesn't care about scoring anymore.
All that stuff is behind him. So why when his team starts losing he starts to ballhog like he usually does instead of making his teammates better like Steve Nash. Come on, you know and I know that Kobe wants it to be all about him.

[Mixability]

All I have to say with the recent rash of "selfish" kobe rants is....we won 2 games.
Also, if anyone of your team's players would of pulled #'s like 65 and 50 back to back these forums would be closed. It's like bitching about something that doesn't happen often. It hasn't happened in LA for 40+ years. As a NBA fan, take off the hater glasses and see true talent and greatness for what it is. It's quite sad as fans we can't take off our team colours and see what all of this represents. A player in a league of zone defenses and heightened double and triple teams, scoring like Wilt used to do is astounding.
Peace...

:tu

all the hate that players receive just shows how much respect they deserve. I admit, I hate Dirk, because I hate the ball in his hands late in games. Same goes for Kobe, I cheer the guy and am in awe when he goes on scoring sprees like these. But, sorry, Chris Childs, we don't hate you because we respect you, it's because you're a stupid fuck who's only claim to fame is that you punched Kobe in his adams apple.

[ponky]

How come you dont blame him? Kobe said it himself that all he care's about is winning. That has nothing to do with the fans. He said I believe when him and Gilbert was going at it, he said he doesn't care about scoring anymore.
All that stuff is behind him. So why when his team starts losing he starts to ballhog like he usually does instead of making his teammates better like Steve Nash. Come on, you know and I know that Kobe wants it to be all about him.

it's about balance dumbass...it's ok to pass, it's ok to score, depends on the situation...steve nash couldn't score 50 like kobe, he has to pass sometimes

[Medvedenko]

He does care about winning...and right now Kobe scoring helps his team win. He balanced this earlier in the season, too many injuries and no chemistry...so he'll keep chucking and if he continues to shoot 50%+ than I'm all for it. Last game we had Smush, Walton and Odom all come close to Tripple Doubles. Oh, and I've said this before, a player can't make his teamates play better defense, which is just as important as passing and working in the flow of offense.

[ponky]

:tu

all the hate that players receive just shows how much respect they deserve. I admit, I hate Dirk, because I hate the ball in his hands late in games. Same goes for Kobe, I cheer the guy and am in awe when he goes on scoring sprees like these. But, sorry, Chris Childs, we don't hate you because we respect you, it's because you're a stupid fuck who's only claim to fame is that you punched Kobe in his adams apple.

yup, i feel the same way about manu and barbosa, but it's only because they're very good ballers

:lol at that last part

[Chris Childs]

Yeah, my sentiments exactly. I mean, it's like when you want to see your player get the 10th rebound, 10th block to get the double, double, or triple double. Some situation's it's NOT SO bad, but ultimately, it's telling if the player cares about it or not, if it's NECESSARY. Records. Stats. Etc.

Like there had been games where Wade would have a potential triple double, but he wouldn't care. In Kobe's and Arenas case, and even Lebron (and I like Lebron, so I'm being unbiased in this comment right now) they try to go for it.

In Manu's case, most of his big games with big numbers, he's a REAL freak, because he's so SELFless all his crazy games are just incidental, because he's mainly trying to win for the team. Kobe's definitely playing for himself AND the team's along for the ride.

But in that case, meh. Homegame. It took Kobe like 5 shots in the final minute to try to get to 50. So yeah, it was pretty self-serving of him. But it's not *that* offensive if you think about it. Just kind of crude, or crass way of playing the game.

Kobe has been in the NBA for like 10 seasons, right? Kobe has 3 Shaq Rings, Right? Kobe already scored 81 points, right? Shouldn't he have his focus on making his teammates more better instead of himself?

Kobe has lied to himself and the media on numerous occasions. When Gilbert lit him up for I don't know how many points it was but it was alot, he said that he doesn't care about stats all he cares about is winning.

[Medvedenko]

Kobe's a fucking scorer...that's his role....he feeds off the other players. A guy like Nash making other's better, IE scoring off an assist is just the same as Walton feeding Kobe and Kobe scoring...what's the difference...oh nothing, it's still 2 points. Walton and Odom are having career years prior to injuries in all relevant stats. Also, ass clown, Kobe's shot's per game are reduced this year from last.

[Mixability]

Kobe has been in the NBA for like 10 seasons, right? Kobe has 3 Shaq Rings, Right? Kobe already scored 81 points, right? Shouldn't he have his focus on making his teammates more better instead of himself?

Kobe has lied to himself and the media on numerous occasions. When Gilbert lit him up for I don't know how many points it was but it was alot, he said that he doesn't care about stats all he cares about is winning.

Jealous?

[Chris Childs]

I agree that Kobe has to score in order for his team to win but someone else has to step up on that team besides Kobe. I mean why can't Lamar put up 45 or 50 or why can't smush put up like 30? Why does Kobe have to do it all by himself. I know he's the superstar on the team but Kobe needs to talk to these guys and tell them you can't just be standing around watching me play. Kobe has to be the leader and I don't think he has inserted himself in that position yet.

[Chris Childs]

Jealous?

No.

[Chris Childs]

I would love to see Kobe have 30 points, 15 assists, 8 rebounds per game. Scoring is what he does but if he's passing the ball to someone and they shoot and miss, he has to tell that person to work on their jumpshot so his assist can make him not look like a ballhog. I just don't think he can do it all by himself. Odom, Parker, Walton, Evans and everyone else needs to improve their game so Kobe doesn't have to do all the work.

[LakeShow]

I agree that Kobe has to score in order for his team to win but someone else has to step up on that team besides Kobe. I mean why can't Lamar put up 45 or 50 or why can't smush put up like 30? Why does Kobe have to do it all by himself. I know he's the superstar on the team but Kobe needs to talk to these guys and tell them you can't just be standing around watching me play. Kobe has to be the leader and I don't think he has inserted himself in that position yet.

Quote from Phil Jackson:

"We talked about going to Kobe early in games and not waiting," coach Phil Jackson said. "He had been playing the team role, feeling the game out and waiting 'til the second half to get going. But there's just not enough time right now in the season to develop that."
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/recap?gameId=270318013

It looks like Kobe is doing what he's being asked to do.

[Mixability]

I agree that Kobe has to score in order for his team to win but someone else has to step up on that team besides Kobe.

Yeah, I'm sooooo sure the Knicks would ABSOLUTELY HATE having a player like Kobe on their team. He would just bring the whole team a step down.

[Chris Childs]

Quote from Phil Jackson:

"We talked about going to Kobe early in games and not waiting," coach Phil Jackson said. "He had been playing the team role, feeling the game out and waiting 'til the second half to get going. But there's just not enough time right now in the season to develop that."
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/recap?gameId=270318013

It looks like Kobe is doing what he's being asked to do.

You're right. I can see what you mean. But come on, it's not like Kobe is playing in his last years in the NBA. He has alot more seasons left in him. His team is not going to make noise in the playoffs this year anyway. I think he just needs to be more of a team player so his teammates can get use to that and maybe in 2-3 years they wil be talking about a championship.

[monosylab1k]

You're right. I can see what you mean. But come on, it's not like Kobe is playing in his last years in the NBA. He has alot more seasons left in him. His team is not going to make noise in the playoffs this year anyway. I think he just needs to be more of a team player so his teammates can get use to that and maybe in 2-3 years they wil be talking about a championship.

Sounds like the annual motto of the New York Knicks - "We're trying to win a title three years from now!"

[Mixability]

he's passing the ball to someone and they shoot and miss, he has to tell that person to work on their jumpshot so his assist can make him not look like a ballhog.

He's not their fucking personal trainer, he does their job, they try and do theirs. They should see it on their own that if he's not passing, then he doesn't trust them. From that, they should work on their shot on their own, not blame it on the lack of team play.

[Medvedenko]

He does trust his team...I've seen it more this year than any other year post Shaq. It's just the last few games that he's notched a high # of shots....by getting Odom and Walton back into the flow, I don't see him scoring and shooting 30 + going forward. Still, if it takes him to win, then he'll score in bunches.

[Chris Childs]

He's not their fucking personal trainer , he does their job, they try and do theirs. They should see it on their own that if he's not passing, then he doesn't trust them. From that, they should work on their shot on their own, not blame it on the lack of team play.

But he's their so called fucking team leader. He needs to step up and stop shooting the ball alot in order for his team to win. Kobe can't do it all by himself. The lakers aren't going anywhere if that were to continue. That's why he needs a team that can take the pressure off of him instead of him doing almost everything. It's not going to get you anywhere if you don't have good team players around you. That's why I believe you can make bad players turn into good players. All you have to do is speak up and tell them ways of helping you to become a better team. It looks like Kobe only wants them to figure it out on their own. That's not being a team leader.

[Medvedenko]

He's got players that when healthy are having career years...still it's nothing to do with Kobe is it....Regardless....having good players will always help, especially when they are other allstars on the team.

[mardigan]

Who gives a shit, if a guy wants to score 50 and he is one basket away from getting it with the game secured, who cares? More power to him. And if the rest of his bitch ass team would get their shit together maybe he wouldnt have to shoot so much

[JamStone]

It's as if Kobe never has well-rounded games where he does more than just score. That's just not true. And, prior to the last two games, he had been averaging nearly 8 apg and nearly 8 rpg, and his team was still losing. After the 7 game losing streak, he decided he was going to start scoring to help the Lakers win. You can't fault him for that when his team was losing when he tried to make his teammates better by passing them the ball. With Odom and Walton out, his teammates were just not good enough to win. There have been several games where he does more than just score.



http://www.nba.com/games/20061117/TORLAL/boxscore.html

Kobe: 31 pts, 11, rbds, 7 asts

http://www.nba.com/games/20061215/HOULAL/boxscore.html

Kobe: 53 pts, 10 rbds, 8 asts

http://www.nba.com/games/20061217/WASLAL/boxscore.html

Kobe: 45 pts, 8 rbds, 10 asts

http://www.nba.com/games/20070104/LALSAC/boxscore.html

Kobe: 42 pts, 10 rbds, 9 asts

http://www.nba.com/games/20070306/LALMIN/boxscore.html

Kobe: 40 pts, 13 rbds, 8 asts

[Medvedenko]

Remember...people only see what they want to see....

[JamStone]

When Kobe takes 20 or more field goal attempts, the Lakers are 20-16.

When Kobe takes less than 20 field goal attempts, the Lakers are 12-14.

[Medvedenko]

If they stay healthy going into the playoff stretch we'll be fine. Still, it would be nice to get Radman and Mihm back...but that's probably not going to happen.

[Chris Childs]

It's as if Kobe never has well-rounded games where he does more than just score. That's just not true. And, prior to the last two games, he had been averaging nearly 8 apg and nearly 8 rpg, and his team was still losing. After the 7 game losing streak, he decided he was going to start scoring to help the Lakers win. You can't fault him for that when his team was losing when he tried to make his teammates better by passing them the ball. With Odom and Walton out, his teammates were just not good enough to win. There have been several games where he does more than just score.



http://www.nba.com/games/20061117/TORLAL/boxscore.html

Kobe: 31 pts, 11, rbds, 7 asts

http://www.nba.com/games/20061215/HOULAL/boxscore.html

Kobe: 53 pts, 10 rbds, 8 asts

http://www.nba.com/games/20061217/WASLAL/boxscore.html

Kobe: 45 pts, 8 rbds, 10 asts

http://www.nba.com/games/20070104/LALSAC/boxscore.html

Kobe: 42 pts, 10 rbds, 9 asts

http://www.nba.com/games/20070306/LALMIN/boxscore.html

Kobe: 40 pts, 13 rbds, 8 asts

Ok, why can't Kobe continue to make his teammates better? Is he tired or something? I don't care if his team is losing, he can't just go into ballhog mode. That means he's giving up on them. See, I always look towards future and the way I see it, The lakers aren't going anywhere with Dallas, San antonio, Phoenix, Houston, Utah, and maybe even Denver (if they make it) in their way. I say he should continue to try and make his teammates better, that way his team can get use to that so it won't be as if he's saying my team isn't doing anything right now I must score in order for my team to win. I think that's spitting in the face of his teammates when he stops trying to make his teammates better and starts throwing up 70, 60, 50 points to win games. During this offseason, he must address every single player on the team and tell them that scoring 50, 60 points just to win isn't going to continue forever so you guys must improve your game.
I admit, Kobe can put up impressive stats but when kobe's doing that and his team is losing, he must continue to do that so his team can understand what he's trying to do.

[JamStone]

Ok, why can't Kobe continue to make his teammates better? Is he tired or something? I don't care if his team is losing, he can't just go into ballhog mode. That means he's giving up on them. See, I always look towards future and the way I see it, The lakers aren't going anywhere with Dallas, San antonio, Phoenix, Houston, Utah, and maybe even Denver (if they make it) in their way. I say he should continue to try and make his teammates better, that way his team can get use to that so it won't be as if he's saying my team isn't doing anything right now I must score in order for my team to win. I think that's spitting in the face of his teammates when he stops trying to make his teammates better and starts throwing up 70, 60, 50 points to win games. During this offseason, he must address every single player on the team and tell them that scoring 50, 60 points just to win isn't going to continue forever so you guys must improve your game.
I admit, Kobe can put up impressive stats but when kobe's doing that and his team is losing, he must continue to do that so his team can understand what he's trying to do.


How much better can Kobe make Ronny Turiaf, Mo Evans, Smush Parker, Shammond Williams? Those guys were second round draft picks or not drafted at all. The talent isn't there. When three starters (Odom, Walton, and Kwame Brown) are out for significant stretches, any team is going to struggle. Kobe tried to continue to play unselfishly, and two long losing streaks ensued. You simply cannot significantly make players that have limited talent and skill much better than they are. And, first and foremost, Kobe is a scorer. He scores. He's the "shooting" guard. He still gets over 5.5 assists per game. How many NBA shooting guards average more assists than he does? There's ONE NBA shooting guard that averages more assists than Kobe, and that's Dwyane Wade. And, Dwyane Wade is often asked to share time at the point guard. Making teammates better doesn't just mean taking fewer shots. It means teaching them in practice, giving them helpful hints. It means leading by example. It means communicating on the floor. It means encouraging them in many different ways. Just because a player takes a lot of shots, it doesn't mean he doesn't make his teammates better.

[Medvedenko]

Childs...injuries....seriously, you don't get. When our teams was reasonably healthy we were a top 5 team and Kobe was in MVP mode. He scored, rebounded set up teammates etc.....Remember, this this team has only played like 5 or 6 games all season with this starting line up;
Smush
Kobe
Walton
Odom
Brown....

[Medvedenko]

Oh, and Jordan took way more shots per season than Kobe has....his success..better, healthier teammates.

[kobe_bryant]

stfu faggot.

I have scored more points in the last two games than you have your best season

[mardigan]

Anyone that talks shit about Kobe is just being a hater. Even if you dont like him as a person, the guy is amazing on the court. Even when the Lakers were really good beating the Spurs in the playoffs and I hated the guy, I had to sit back sometimes and just think to myself how unbelievable he was

[Purple & Gold]

Chris Childs is a bitch. :lmao

[cornbread]

Childs, you are being absolutely ridiculous.

I'm not a Kobe fan but I can see clearly enough through my hater-goggles to realize that he's an amazing player and IS helping his team win. Props to Kobe on the big games and the wins.

[resistanze]

Chris Childs hasn't been the same ever since he got robbed at gunpoint :lol

[BUMP]

ATTENTION ATTENTION

for the first time maybe ever, i actually agree with Childs.

they were up by seven with 10 seconds left. no need to dunk it, unless you care about getting 50.

[JamStone]

I don't think anyone is arguing that Kobe didn't care about getting 50. People are discussing whether it was really all that disrespectful and selfish.

[resistanze]

With nearly ten seconds left in the game, the Raptors were down 85-82 with possession of the ball. Chris Childs raced down the court and jacked up a wild three-pointer that missed badly, apparently trying to draw a foul on the play, instead of passing to a wide-open Dell Curry (Toronto's best 3-point gunner). In a post-game locker room interview, Childs repeatedly insisted that the Raptors had been down 4 points, not 3.

:lmao

[mardigan]

ATTENTION ATTENTION

for the first time maybe ever, i actually agree with Childs.

they were up by seven with 10 seconds left. no need to dunk it, unless you care about getting 50.
Why wouldnt you care about getting 50 one basket away with a fastbreak? I mean seriously, you trying to tell me he should have just pulled the ball out and ran the time out? The game was OVER, who cares what he does at that point

[Purple & Gold]

they were up by seven with 10 seconds left. no need to dunk it, unless you care about getting 50.
Of course he wanted 50. Haven't you ever seen a player try to get the last points or the last assist/rebound whatever to hit a number mark. You act like it's showboating. Everybody in the league that has 48 would have dunked the ball. They got the W let him get his 50. He's already proven he cares more about winning then anything else. He has won and he's even allowed Phil to coach him again after he wrote a book about him. You act like if it's some type of selfish act. Nothing but Kobe hate, but honestly as a Laker fan I thank you for the hate. Because your hate is what drives Kobe to be so good. He's the most effective when he has a chip on his shoulder. So thanx for the hate because I'm sure it will drive him to play another 10+ years at an elite level.

:clap :clap :clap :smokin

[TheNextGen]

Last time i checked. Kobe was a SHOOTING guard...screw assists!

[mardigan]

Of course he wanted 50. Haven't you ever seen a player try to get the last points or the last assist/rebound whatever to hit a number mark. You guys act like it's showboating. Everybody in the league that has 48 would have dunked the ball. They got the W let him get his 50. He's already proven he cares more about winning then anything else. He has won and he's even allowed Phil to coach him again after he wrote a book about him. You guys act like if it's some type of selfish act. Nothing but Kobe hate, but honestly as a Laker fan I thank you for the hate. Because your hate is what drives Kobe to be so good. He's the most effective when he has a chip on his shoulder. So thanx for the hate because I'm sure it will drive him to play 10+ years at an elite level.
:clap :clap :clap :smokin

Bunch of fucking haters, I would have thought he would have been an idiot if he had pulled that ball out, you dont have many chances in your career to score 50, make it happen. Most of the haters are the same people that say David didnt want the scoring title when he scored 71, bunch of bullshit

[mardigan]

Last time i checked. Kobe was a SHOOTING guard.
Oh but you didnt know? If your Kobe you have to average 10 assists a game or you not helping your teamates

[Purple & Gold]

Bunch of fucking haters, I would have thought he would have been an idiot if he had pulled that ball out, you dont have many chances in your career to score 50, make it happen. Most of the haters are the same people that say David didnt want the scoring title when he scored 71, bunch of bullshit
I don't think there's one player in the league that would have pulled the ball out in that situation. The funny thing is they probably would have fouled him anyways to stop the clock and he would have gotten his 50 anyways. But then they would have complained he shot too many FT's. :lol

[himat]

http://mavsin06finals.justgotowned.com



NEXT.

That's cruel, but a little funny.
:lol

[AMAREownsALL]

these big scoring nights for Kobe is nothing new. I'm shocked it even causes a stir on these boards anymore. We all know Kobe scores in bunches. Probably the best at putting the ball in the hoop since a young Michael Jordan.

But what's it mean? We're still talking about a player who collapsed last year against my Suns after he decided he was in effect finished for the night after half time.

If Kobe can lead his team to a conference finals, I'd be a lot more impressed than scoring 60+ against the likes of the Wolves and Blazers. Those are brutal teams.

When Kobe starts playing like D Wade did in the 06 playoffs, talk to me about it. But until then, who cares how many points Kobe puts in?

[mardigan]

That whole team collapsed, not just Kobe

[dallasmavsnfuego214]

Most of the haters are the same people that say David didnt want the scoring title when he scored 71, bunch of bullshit

thats pretty irrelevant

[mardigan]

thats pretty irrelevant
Actually its not

[Medvedenko]

these big scoring nights for Kobe is nothing new. I'm shocked it even causes a stir on these boards anymore. We all know Kobe scores in bunches. Probably the best at putting the ball in the hoop since a young Michael Jordan.

But what's it mean? We're still talking about a player who collapsed last year against my Suns after he decided he was in effect finished for the night after half time.

If Kobe can lead his team to a conference finals, I'd be a lot more impressed than scoring 60+ against the likes of the Wolves and Blazers. Those are brutal teams.

When Kobe starts playing like D Wade did in the 06 playoffs, talk to me about it. But until then, who cares how many points Kobe puts in?[/
Have you watched basketball earlier than 06.....Kobe was doing his best "wade" impersonation in the 3 championship run....man you're retard. It's like Kobe's never won a series by himself....

[johngateswhiteley]

The game was out of hand with 10 seconds left and he takes the shot just so he can hit 50.

That play pretty much sums up what Kobe is all about. Disrespect and selfishness.

...i think your posts are normally hilarious. i don't know if i agree with the above statement, but you do have a point.

[Medvedenko]

It was a fast break shot...not a heave from half-court, plus he was being tailed and would have been fouled. The game was still only a 7 point game....why risk missing a foul shot and have them get a chance to cut in the lead with a 3...

[Chris Childs]

It was a fast break shot...not a heave from half-court, plus he was being tailed and would have been fouled. The game was still only a 7 point game....why risk missing a foul shot and have them get a chance to cut in the lead with a 3...

What are you talking about? It was 10 seconds left and the lakers were up by 5. The game was pretty much over. There was no way the wolves would of came back 5 down with 10 seconds left. And Kobe knew how many points he had that's why he did that selfish crap.

[mardigan]

What are you talking about? It was 10 seconds left and the lakers were up by 5. The game was pretty much over. There was no way the wolves would of came back 5 down with 10 seconds left. And Kobe knew how many points he had that's why he did that selfish crap.

Like I said, so what that he wanted 50, as you said the game was already over, what player wouldnt have taken that to the hole needing only one bucket? It doesnt make him selfish, it makes him aware of what is going on. If the game was still in the balance and he had a teamate open for a layup or something, that would be selfish, but your argument doesnt make sense to me

[TheNextGen]

Like I said, so what that he wanted 50, as you said the game was already over, what player wouldnt have taken that to the hole needing only one bucket? It doesnt make him selfish, it makes him aware of what is going on. If the game was still in the balance and he had a teamate open for a layup or something, that would be selfish, but your argument doesnt make sense to me

Heck 5 points, 10 seconds....i'd take it. I wouldnt risk getting fouled when you can get an easy basket.