Spurs play boring baketball...blah..blah..blah...

[NBA Junkie]

Anybody else sick and tired of hearing this? It seems to be popular opinion of fans who don't watch the Spurs.

I know this has been discussed before, but do any of you think that this bias might work against the Spurs in their upcoming series against the Suns since their might be calls that go against them in tight ballgames?

Phoenix is a glamour team that the league would love to see in the finals, while the Spurs are the underappreciated club that puts everyone to sleep, except our loyal fans.

I, for one am hoping that the Spurs take care of business so the games don't come down to this.

[Gaddabout]

I know this has been discussed before, but do any of you think that this bias might work against the Spurs in their upcoming series against the Suns since their might be calls that go against them in tight ballgames?

I am, in fact, predicting a flop contest between Ginobli and Bell. I fear the Russian judges may favor Ginobli, with Bell being American and all, but Bell has to be the favorite going into the series. Bell was once again a league leader in faking ... er taking charges, with Ginobli not that far behind.

Perhaps Bell and Ginobli can just lay on opposite ends of the floor until a ref blows the whistle or someone in the 4-on-4 action scores a bucket.

Quick fact: Nash was actually the Suns leader in t(f)aking charges, so he has been spotted playing defense this year. Woo hoo! I would have to say he has mastered it by now.

[SAGambler]

I sometimes think this "boring" reputation is what costs the Spurs a lot of calls.

It's not only untrue, but unfair to tag them with some kind of label like that. Who in the world could watch Ginobili play with reckless abandon and call the Spurs boring? Who can watch Duncan toy with other superstars, and call the Spurs boring? Who can watch Bowen hassle superstar shooters night after night and call the Spurs boring?

Only someone who doesn't enjoy pure-team-oriented basketball.

[samikeyp]

I am, in fact, predicting a flop contest between Ginobli and Bell. I fear the Russian judges may favor Ginobli, with Bell being American and all, but Bell has to be the favorite going into the series. Bell was once again a league leader in faking ... er taking charges, with Ginobli not that far behind.

:lmao

Good stuff Suns fan! :tu

[samikeyp]

Maybe the Spurs do play boring basketball...better to be boring and still playing than be flashy and get bounced in the first round.

:)

[SAGambler]

Anybody else sick and tired of hearing this? It seems to be popular opinion of fans who don't watch the Spurs.

I know this has been discussed before, but do any of you think that this bias might work against the Spurs in their upcoming series against the Suns since their might be calls that go against them in tight ballgames?

Phoenix is a glamour team that the league would love to see in the finals, while the Spurs are the underappreciated club that puts everyone to sleep, except our loyal fans.

I, for one am hoping that the Spurs take care of business so the games don't come down to this.


Remember Barkley has maintained all year long, that the road to the Championship will have to be through the Spurs....And the Spurs, in his book, will come out on top.

The Spurs just go about their business and win......

And he picks them to win it all.

[da_suns_fan__]

1) The Spurs are still boring. If you have seen one Spurs game, you have seen them all.

"Duncan holds the ball for eight seconds....and hits a bank shot for ten feet out".

"Ginobili hits the ground".

"Popovic calls another timeout"

"Horry hits a three"

2) That doesn't mean they don't win. Suns assistant GM David Griffith labeled them a "winning machine" which i would say is accurate.

[Obstructed_View]

What do you expect from people who are completely ignorant about basketball? I couldn't make up a better example than the above post. Hey Suns fan, do you think the all star game is the best game of the season? It has lots of dunks and lots of scoring with no team execution and no defense. Wow, what fun.

[LilMissSPURfect]

1) The Spurs are still boring. If you have seen one Spurs game, you have seen them all.

"Duncan holds the ball for eight seconds....and hits a bank shot for ten feet out".

"Ginobili hits the ground".

"Popovic calls another timeout"

"Horry hits a three"

2) That doesn't mean they don't win. Suns assistant GM David Griffith labeled them a "winning machine" which i would say is accurate.


i guess then you just HAVENT SEEN a spurs game ehy? what a dumbass view

[LilMissSPURfect]

Boring is hearing all those denver and suns fans booing gino for his effort....Spurs didn't have an answer for carmelo but as a team they shut his team down we didn't boo him !

quit the whining and go check out re runs of amari doin push ups...coz he won't be doing em next series!

[Davidicus]

I think what ive noticed about spurs fans is that they know a little more about basketball than most. For me, I love watching the spurs because theyre SO incredibly good. After playing basketball with friends and then coming home and watching a spurs game, I just sit and stare in awe of how good they are, offense and especially defense. And its not just that theyre an nba team; theyre a lot better than most nba teams and you can see it. Thats plenty of entertainment for me

[YoMamaIsCallin]

I think that it's people who haven't played organized, coached basketball, and learned the game, that don't appreciate the Spurs. Unfortunately this is a lot of people.

For example, I never played football, but I've sat and watched with people who have. They see, literally, 20 times more things than I do in a given play. They appreciate spacing, blocking, fakes, how the snap count is done, and all kinds of stuff like that.

This makes me understand what it's like for someone who never played except for pickup games maybe feels watching the NBA. There is so much going on that they do not even see, much less appreciate.

For example, one of the things I absolutely love about the Spurs is their defense in the paint. You saw that over and over again in the second half of the last game against Denver. Someone would drive the lane and the Spurs would converge on him and pressure the shot and the drive enough so that they'd miss 3 out of 4 times. It's not about spectacular blocks, it's about just bothering them enough to get their percentage down. Whenever I see that I just grin stupidly. I'm sure others watching say, "Wow, that player missed an easy layup." Or, worse, "Wow, the refs sure missed that foul."

[LilMissSPURfect]

I think that it's people who haven't played organized, coached basketball, and learned the game, that don't appreciate the Spurs. Unfortunately this is a lot of people.

For example, I never played football, but I've sat and watched with people who have. They see, literally, 20 times more things than I do in a given play. They appreciate spacing, blocking, fakes, how the snap count is done, and all kinds of stuff like that.

This makes me understand what it's like for someone who never played except for pickup games maybe feels watching the NBA. There is so much going on that they do not even see, much less appreciate.

For example, one of the things I absolutely love about the Spurs is their defense in the paint. You saw that over and over again in the second half of the last game against Denver. Someone would drive the lane and the Spurs would converge on him and pressure the shot and the drive enough so that they'd miss 3 out of 4 times. It's not about spectacular blocks, it's about just bothering them enough to get their percentage down. Whenever I see that I just grin stupidly. I'm sure others watching say, "Wow, that player missed an easy layup." Or, worse, "Wow, the refs sure missed that foul."
:tu

[da_suns_fan__]

LMFAO if you REALLY believe that as a Spurs fan you inherently have a greater knowledge of basketball.

Ive heard THIS argument before...

"If you don't like Spurs basketball than you don't know basketball and you only like And 1/All Star game blah blah blah blah"

Or how bout "People call the spurs boring cuz they don't get in trouble and don't have thugs and are nice guys".

Well Jordan, Magic and Bird stayed out of trouble and were nice guys and they still weren't boring.

The Bulls played great defense and they still weren't boring.

The Shaq/Bryant Lakers played defense and they still weren't boring.

Hell, even the Rockets were more fun to watch. Hakeem was amazing. INSPIRING!!!! Can't say the same thing about Duncan.

But what gets me the most is the way Spurs fans act like a bunch of jerks anytime anyone calls their team out.

[da_suns_fan__]

What do you expect from people who are completely ignorant about basketball? I couldn't make up a better example than the above post. Hey Suns fan, do you think the all star game is the best game of the season? It has lots of dunks and lots of scoring with no team execution and no defense. Wow, what fun.


Hey Spurs fan, what was YOUR FAVORITE Duncan highlight this year? Seriously, search through youtube and find me your favorite Duncan play.

Go on, find something that will REALLY impress me!!!

But don't be surprised if you get a sarcastic "WOOOOOOOOW" in return.

[ShoogarBear]

Hey Spurs fan, what was YOUR FAVORITE Duncan highlight this year? It's usually something like this:

http://www.photofile.com/Photos/Albums/05_Spurs_Champ_Album/Images/DuncanTimFinals1.jpg

[LilMissSPURfect]

Hey Spurs fan, what was YOUR FAVORITE Duncan highlight this year? Seriously, search through youtube and find me your favorite Duncan play.

Go on, find something that will REALLY impress me!!!

But don't be surprised if you get a sarcastic "WOOOOOOOOW" in return.


winking at his daughter last night!

Basketball and highlights on BSPN is all about the offensive...One quick one that come to mind is that STOCK>>>>> (block and steal of YAO MING) !!

since it came at the defensive end......SUNS fans can't appreciate

[LilMissSPURfect]

Hey Spurs fan, what was YOUR FAVORITE Duncan highlight this year? Seriously, search through youtube and find me your favorite Duncan play.

Go on, find something that will REALLY impress me!!!

But don't be surprised if you get a sarcastic "WOOOOOOOOW" in return.


winking at his daughter last night!

Basketball and highlights on BSPN is all about the offensive ooohh wow.....it's one on none breakaway to the basket ....

...One quick one that come to mind is that STOCK>>>>> (block and steal of YAO MING) !!

since it came at the defensive end......SUNS fans can't appreciate

[mabber]

I am, in fact, predicting a flop contest between Ginobli and Bell. I fear the Russian judges may favor Ginobli, with Bell being American and all, but Bell has to be the favorite going into the series. Bell was once again a league leader in faking ... er taking charges, with Ginobli not that far behind.

Perhaps Bell and Ginobli can just lay on opposite ends of the floor until a ref blows the whistle or someone in the 4-on-4 action scores a bucket.

Quick fact: Nash was actually the Suns leader in t(f)aking charges, so he has been spotted playing defense this year. Woo hoo! I would have to say he has mastered it by now.

Good stuff :lol

Props to Nash for almost perfecting the flop. I'm serious...he finally realized that he's not big enough or strong enough to guard anyone so he learned the flop. As silly as it sounds, it makes the Suns a better defensive team.

[NBA Junkie]

It's usually something like this:

http://www.photofile.com/Photos/Albums/05_Spurs_Champ_Album/Images/DuncanTimFinals1.jpg

X 3.

All Suns fans can brag about is the half court shot Gar Heard made in Game 5 of the 1976 finals to force OT against the Celtics...a game the Suns still lost.

[Obstructed_View]

Hey Spurs fan, what was YOUR FAVORITE Duncan highlight this year? Seriously, search through youtube and find me your favorite Duncan play.

Go on, find something that will REALLY impress me!!!

But don't be surprised if you get a sarcastic "WOOOOOOOOW" in return.
What's amazing to me is that I call you out for not understanding the nuances of great basketball and you ask for highlights in return. Again, douche, the all-star game is full of highlights. Duncan doesn't throw down amazing dunks anymore, but a great block or good defense or a great pass is every bit as satisfying to me.

Not suprising, though, coming from a bandwagon troll who roots for a team that doesn't play defense.

I'll be waiting for your sarcastic comments about the Spurs parade, too. I'll send you a link to Amare's youtube videos to make you happy.

[Obstructed_View]

winking at his daughter last night!

Basketball and highlights on BSPN is all about the offensive...One quick one that come to mind is that STOCK>>>>> (block and steal of YAO MING) !!

since it came at the defensive end......SUNS fans can't appreciate


I liked the fake pass on Mutombo when he completely had him turned around.

[mabber]

I think what ive noticed about spurs fans is that they know a little more about basketball than most. For me, I love watching the spurs because theyre SO incredibly good. After playing basketball with friends and then coming home and watching a spurs game, I just sit and stare in awe of how good they are, offense and especially defense. And its not just that theyre an nba team; theyre a lot better than most nba teams and you can see it. Thats plenty of entertainment for me

This is probably true for the following reason...The core fan base of all teams have a good knowledge of basketball. The Spurs probably have a bigger core fan base since it's the only pro team in town. Basically, there are just more hoops fans in San Antonio so there are going to be more fans that follow the game more closely. I would speculate it being similar for Jazz fans. If it's the only game in town you generally end up learning more about it even if you're not trying to. This is what I believe anyway.

[da_suns_fan__]

What's amazing to me is that I call you out for not understanding the nuances of great basketball and you ask for highlights in return. Again, douche, the all-star game is full of highlights. Duncan doesn't throw down amazing dunks anymore, but a great block or good defense or a great pass is every bit as satisfying to me.

Not suprising, though, coming from a bandwagon troll who roots for a team that doesn't play defense.

I'll be waiting for your sarcastic comments about the Spurs parade, too. I'll send you a link to Amare's youtube videos to make you happy.

So we agree then that Spurs are boring?

Btw - Show me a great Duncan block since your NEW argument is that defensive plays are exciting (even thought the spurs don't even average many steals or blocks).

Oh...and Duncan doesn't throw down great dunks anymore???

Feel free to find me your favorite Duncan play EVER!!! Rookie year if you want!! :lol :lol

[Obstructed_View]

This is probably true for the following reason...The core fan base of all teams have a good knowledge of basketball. The Spurs probably have a bigger core fan base since it's the only pro team in town. Basically, there are just more hoops fans in San Antonio so there are going to be more fans that follow the game more closely. I would speculate it being similar for Jazz fans. If it's the only game in town you generally end up learning more about it even if you're not trying to. This is what I believe anyway.
I think that's exactly right. I've been listening to ESPN radio in Dallas and they are lamenting how hard a year it's been for Dallas sports fans, that now that the Stars and Mavs are gone in the first round they only have the Rangers until minicamps start. In San Antonio, there's nothing after the Spurs lose.

The ignorance of the "boring" label, even after the arrival of Ginobili and Parker, two of the most entertaining players in the entire NBA, still completely astounds me. It's almost as stupid as still trying to use the "soft" label. Again, though, what should one expect?

[mabber]

So we agree then that Spurs are boring?

Btw - Show me a great Duncan block since your NEW argument is that defensive plays are exciting (even thought the spurs don't even average many steals or blocks).
Oh...and Duncan doesn't throw down great dunks anymore???

Feel free to find me your favorite Duncan play EVER!!! Rookie year if you want!! :lol :lol

I've seen some "great" Duncan blocks just in the last month. He's so efficient at it when he blocks one that the ball stays in play (see Bill Russell) so it might not be flashy but it's what I'd consider "great".

[Obstructed_View]

So we agree then that Spurs are boring?

Btw - Show me a great Duncan block since your NEW argument is that defensive plays are exciting (even thought the spurs don't even average many steals or blocks).

Oh...and Duncan doesn't throw down great dunks anymore???

Feel free to find me your favorite Duncan play EVER!!! Rookie year if you want!! :lol :lol
One way basketball is boring to me. Sorry that you come onto a message board spouting ignorant opinion as fact and arguing when someone else has a different view. You are still looking for highlights of individual plays? Go watch the all-star game until Sunday. You'll then be fed a steady diet of great plays over the next five games as your team gets stomped. I look forward to your quiet departure out a side door like the Mavs and Nuggets fans before you.

But watch whatever you want. Some people like Jerry Springer, too.

[da_suns_fan__]

One way basketball is boring to me. Sorry that you come onto a message board spouting ignorant opinion as fact and arguing when someone else has a different view. You are still looking for highlights of individual plays? Go watch the all-star game until Sunday. You'll then be fed a steady diet of great plays over the next five games as your team gets stomped. I look forward to your quiet departure out a side door like the Mavs and Nuggets fans before you.

But watch whatever you want. Some people like Jerry Springer, too.


Again...if I think Duncan is boring, then I must only like all-star games and Jerry Springer?

Why is it that people like Magic, Bird, Garnett, Pippen, Jordan etc. etc. never got the boring label and Duncan does???

Is it because everyone outside of San Antonio only likes All star games and Jerry Springer?

btw - I can't tell you the Spurs won't beat the Suns. Im not a vodoo fortune teller.

But i can tell you that win or lose, the Spurs will still be boring.

[Davidicus]

This is probably true for the following reason...The core fan base of all teams have a good knowledge of basketball. The Spurs probably have a bigger core fan base since it's the only pro team in town. Basically, there are just more hoops fans in San Antonio so there are going to be more fans that follow the game more closely. I would speculate it being similar for Jazz fans. If it's the only game in town you generally end up learning more about it even if you're not trying to. This is what I believe anyway.

wow....from a mavs fan?!? But yeah youre exactly right. Over the past decade of having only one basketball team with the big fundamental as your star, winning 3 championships, I think SA has grown to really appreciate the game.

[LilMissSPURfect]

Again...if I think Duncan is boring, then I must only like all-star games and Jerry Springer?

Why is it that people like Magic, Bird, Garnett, Pippen, Jordan etc. etc. never got the boring label and Duncan does???




you know the answer to that ......... u just fishing for trouble

[Obstructed_View]

Again...if I think Duncan is boring, then I must only like all-star games and Jerry Springer?

Why is it that people like Magic, Bird, Garnett, Pippen, Jordan etc. etc. never got the boring label and Duncan does???

Is it because everyone outside of San Antonio only likes All star games and Jerry Springer?
That must be it. Duncan's boring, just because someone said it. You bring immense basketball knowledge into this forum; you should be extraordinarily proud of yourself.

Garnett. LOL. I'm sure watching him sit on his couch watching the playoffs is riveting.

[ehz33satx]

Im not a vodoo fortune teller.

But i can tell you that win or lose, the Spurs will still be boring.

Yeah boring! AND 2007 NBA Champions!
Substance over style, buddy! substance over style!

[da_suns_fan__]

That must be it. Duncan's boring, just because someone said it. You bring immense basketball knowledge into this forum; you should be extraordinarily proud of yourself.

Garnett. LOL. I'm sure watching him sit on his couch watching the playoffs is riveting.


Consider yourself officially owned.

[Obstructed_View]

Consider yourself officially owned.
Yeah, okay. Go to Youtube and download me a highlight of it.

[my2sons]

wow, i can't wait to hear studdermyer, stoddlcrier, notadmired...amare proclaim how he is dominating (by design) the spurs while losing basketball games. its funny how the boring trend as you call it is to let the superstar dominate and work the rest of the team. I guess it will be boring to see tony and manu run with phoenix, because if i recall the spurs beat you at your own game when we last met in the playoffs, the only difference was our guys play d. amare may dominate on offense but defensively he is non existent. he will get that great block into the 8th row celebrate pose, while tdunc will boringly block a shot to himself or a teamate and take it down court for that boring bank, layup or three. ya your right 95 pts per game boring. whats boring is that the spurs d take high scoring teams out of their offense, boredom is mistaken for frustration. so let the frustration begin, this will be a fun series.

[samikeyp]

But i can tell you that win or lose, the Spurs will still be boring.

Why does it matter?

All that matters is winning. If one is more focused on the style of a team's play instead of the result of that team's play, then they are a fool.

[Obstructed_View]

If one is more focused on the style of a team's play instead of the result of that team's play, then they must be a Suns fan.
Fixed.

[da_suns_fan__]

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4196/is_20030617/ai_n10886022

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/more/news/2003/05/30/boring/

http://www.sportsgoons.com/volume2/Vol2_Iss1/spurs_depression.htm

[Trainwreck2100]

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4196/is_20030617/ai_n10886022

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/more/news/2003/05/30/boring/

http://www.sportsgoons.com/volume2/Vol2_Iss1/spurs_depression.htm


Hey I remember you, you're the guy that bitched about us bringing up Amare's pushups from two years ago. The good new is, we don't have to use the two years ago ones anymore cause he did it again

[Obstructed_View]

http://www.nba.com/games/20050528/PHOSAS/recap.html

[LilMissSPURfect]

DEFINE BORING

OTHER FORMS:
boring·ly (Adverb), boring·ness (Noun)

SYNONYMS:
boring , irksome , humdrum

These adjectives refer to what is so uninteresting as to cause mental weariness.

Boring implies feelings of listlessness and discontent: ---

you heard it in the voices of george karl and crew and will do same for d'antoni & pals

Irksome describes what is demanding of time and effort and yet is dull and often unrewarding:


D-E-F-E-N-S-E


Humdrum refers to what is commonplace, trivial, or unexcitingly routine: example : winning CHAMPIONSHIPS

we apologize for being boring......WE ONLY GOT rings to show for

[LilMissSPURfect]

Fixed.
:clap

[cornbread]

http://www.nba.com/games/20050528/PHOSAS/recap.html
Let's see some tv ratings on that biatch!

[mabber]

Let's see some tv ratings on that biatch!

Hey Cornbread...your nickname wouldn't have anything to do with Cedrick "Cornbread" Maxwell would it? I played high school ball in Boston when Cornbread was on on the Celtics (1979-80). He was my favorite Celtic.

[DarrinS]

I'm amazed that people are entertained by guys running up and down the floor hitting jump shots and NO DEFENSE. If that's your idea of entertainment, you should just go down to your local Dave and Busters. They have a basketball machine where you can make shot after shot, without any interference from those pesky defenders.

[DarrinS]

By the way, the most entertaining NBA Finals of the last DECADE was the 2005 Spurs/Pistons.

[shelshor]

Hey I remember you, you're the guy that bitched about us bringing up Amare's pushups from two years ago. The good new is, we don't have to use the two years ago ones anymore cause he did it again
When did he do it?
I'm not doubting that he did it again; would just like to know so I can have a date when the subject comes up again

[itzsoweezee]

LMFAO if you REALLY believe that as a Spurs fan you inherently have a greater knowledge of basketball.

Ive heard THIS argument before...

"If you don't like Spurs basketball than you don't know basketball and you only like And 1/All Star game blah blah blah blah"

Or how bout "People call the spurs boring cuz they don't get in trouble and don't have thugs and are nice guys".

Well Jordan, Magic and Bird stayed out of trouble and were nice guys and they still weren't boring.

The Bulls played great defense and they still weren't boring.

The Shaq/Bryant Lakers played defense and they still weren't boring.

Hell, even the Rockets were more fun to watch. Hakeem was amazing. INSPIRING!!!! Can't say the same thing about Duncan.

But what gets me the most is the way Spurs fans act like a bunch of jerks anytime anyone calls their team out.

uh, no. the bulls and lakers were boring. they just had the star power and the occasional amazing play from bryant or jordan.

[samikeyp]

But what gets me the most is the way Spurs fans act like a bunch of jerks anytime anyone calls their team out.

its about as annoying as someone assuming all Spurs fans act alike. :rolleyes

My original question stands though. What does it matter what style a team plays as long as they win championships?

[cornbread]

Hey Cornbread...your nickname wouldn't have anything to do with Cedrick "Cornbread" Maxwell would it? I played high school ball in Boston when Cornbread was on on the Celtics (1979-80). He was my favorite Celtic.
I wish my nickname was related to a baller. My friend's grandfather started calling me Cornbread when I was 10 years old. Not very sure why. 15 years later it's still sticks.

[ShoogarBear]

Suns Fan thinks the and1 tour represents the pinnacle of basketball.

[da_suns_fan__]

its about as annoying as someone assuming all Spurs fans act alike. :rolleyes

My original question stands though. What does it matter what style a team plays as long as they win championships?

It doesn't! Like I said, the Spurs are a "winning machine".

Do you also find it annoying that others believe all Spurs fans are intrinsically more knowledgable about basketball as well.

[The Great Fantastic]

I find da suns fans posts extremely boring.

[Suck My Blurr]

Remember Barkley has maintained all year long, that the road to the Championship will have to be through the Spurs....And the Spurs, in his book, will come out on top.

The Spurs just go about their business and win......

And he picks them to win it all.


FUCK BARKLEY!

http://attachments.wetpaintserv.us/QH4oBlj%24trSvLBldI2BoRw%3D%3D17064

[saporvida]

So we agree then that Spurs are boring?

Btw - Show me a great Duncan block since your NEW argument is that defensive plays are exciting (even thought the spurs don't even average many steals or blocks).

Oh...and Duncan doesn't throw down great dunks anymore???

Feel free to find me your favorite Duncan play EVER!!! Rookie year if you want!! :lol :lol

show me show me show me... what are you a kid?

watch a damn game and see for yourself.. you dont get to be a mvp cause youre boring and you certainly dont get nba championships either cause youre boring.

boring to me is all them bastards out on the courts around town who think they are the shit and brick 50 shots and only make 10 but they think they are ballers... thats boring. when i goto the courts i dont even care if i shoot one time as long as we win and the ball is shared and thats what the spurs do they win.

[sabar]

I don't get the whole boring thing. I've watched Detroit, Dallas, Lakers, Miami, Cavs, Phoenix, Denver, and the Spurs, and well, they're all "boring" in the sense that they do the same 4-5 things all the time.

The only team in the league that is truely reckless and "exciting" to watch is Golden State, every other team goes through the same motions.

What the heck makes a Kobe jumper more exciting than a Finley jumper? Nothing.
What makes a Nash layup more exciting than a Parker layup? Nothing.

The only exciting thing the Suns have going are Amare dunks and fast breaks, which the Spurs are seriously underrated in. We push the ball at every opportunity.

[DarrinS]

I don't get the whole boring thing. I've watched Detroit, Dallas, Lakers, Miami, Cavs, Phoenix, Denver, and the Spurs, and well, they're all "boring" in the sense that they do the same 4-5 things all the time.

The only team in the league that is truely reckless and "exciting" to watch is Golden State, every other team goes through the same motions.

What the heck makes a Kobe jumper more exciting than a Finley jumper? Nothing.
What makes a Nash layup more exciting than a Parker layup? Nothing.

The only exciting thing the Suns have going are Amare dunks and fast breaks, which the Spurs are seriously underrated in. We push the ball at every opportunity.


Nash penetrates, kickout pass to open perimeter shooter, score.

Now that's a play that Phoenix HARDLY EVER runs.

Wash, rinse, repeat. :sleep

[dbreiden83080]

Anybody else sick and tired of hearing this? It seems to be popular opinion of fans who don't watch the Spurs.

I know this has been discussed before, but do any of you think that this bias might work against the Spurs in their upcoming series against the Suns since their might be calls that go against them in tight ballgames?

Phoenix is a glamour team that the league would love to see in the finals, while the Spurs are the underappreciated club that puts everyone to sleep, except our loyal fans.

I, for one am hoping that the Spurs take care of business so the games don't come down to this.

The Suns are not a huge ratings team their best player in Nash is not that flashy. Amare is not on the level of a Lebron or Wade in terms of appeal. Only chance the league has for monster ratings in the finals is if Lebron and the Cavs get there and that is not likely to happen.

[Suck My Blurr]

:toast

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[mabber]

The Suns are not a huge ratings team their best player in Nash is not that flashy. Amare is not on the level of a Lebron or Wade in terms of appeal. Only chance the league has for monster ratings in the finals is if Lebron and the Cavs get there and that is not likely to happen.

League would do well if Houston (Yao) somehow got to the finals. I don't see that happening though.

[5ToolMan]

The Spurs are a proven multiple time NBA Championship Team. This cannot be boring unless you don't appreciate Championship Hoops.

In the Duncan years, the Spurs have been one of the most efficient teams in NBA history. I can see where the methodical success of Duncan and crew cutting opponents hearts out is frustrating to other teams and to the fans of other teams. But boring ... not if you know what the game is truly about.

Strong defense has been the Spurs primary MO in playing Championship Hoops. The Spurs executing all other teams with their superior defense has to be frustrating for the other teams and their fans. But boring, not if you know what the game if truly about.

The Spurs are from a small market AND continue to kick the collective @sses of the big market media darling teams. In my view this makes them boring ... to all the big market hacks, parrots and bandwagon fans that have little understanding of the game.

If the "Duncan" Spurs were in LA, Houston, Chicago, New York or Boston they would be applauded by the masses as one of the greatest teams of all time, and their style would be trend setting and exciting.

But since they are ours, they are boring. And we love it!

[da_suns_fan__]

The Spurs are a proven multiple time NBA Championship Team. This cannot be boring unless you don't appreciate Championship Hoops.

In the Duncan years, the Spurs have been one of the most efficient teams in NBA history. I can see where the methodical success of Duncan and crew cutting opponents hearts out is frustrating to other teams and to the fans of other teams. But boring ... not if you know what the game is truly about.

Strong defense has been the Spurs primary MO in playing Championship Hoops. The Spurs executing all other teams with their superior defense has to be frustrating for the other teams and their fans. But boring, not if you know what the game if truly about.

The Spurs are from a small market AND continue to kick the collective @sses of the big market media darling teams. In my view this makes them boring ... to all the big market hacks, parrots and bandwagon fans that have little understanding of the game.

If the "Duncan" Spurs were in LA, Houston, Chicago, New York or Boston they would be applauded by the masses as one of the greatest teams of all time, and their style would be trend setting and exciting.

But since they are ours, they are boring. And we love it!

Most of what you said i agree with...but Kareem Abdul Jabbar played in a huge market and was still considered boring.

Penny Hardaway and Shaquille Oneal played in a tiny market and were considered exciting. So were the Kings a few years ago.

No...small market is just a lame excuse by Spurs fans.

[DarrinS]

Isn't saying the Spurs are boring analogous to saying the New England Patriots are boring?

[5ToolMan]

Most of what you said i agree with...but Kareem Abdul Jabbar played in a huge market and was still considered boring.

Penny Hardaway and Shaquille Oneal played in a tiny market and were considered exciting. So were the Kings a few years ago.

No...small market is just a lame excuse by Spurs fans.

Psst ... the Magic and the Kings never won shit. If they had kicked the collective @sses of big market teams the average big market bandwagon fan and big market hacks would have found them boring over time.

On your other point you sound a little confused. You have said Showtime was exciting with Magic and crew. Now you are selling Kareem as a big market player who was boring.

It appears you like it both ways. :dramaquee

[samikeyp]

It doesn't! Like I said, the Spurs are a "winning machine".
Then why do you care if the Spurs are "boring"? The only reason to bring it up is in an attempt to diss the Spurs. If the Spurs win but are boring...but you thing winning is the most important thing....it shouldn't matter how they win.



Do you also find it annoying that others believe all Spurs fans are intrinsically more knowledgable about basketball as well.

I find it annoying when anyone is so ignorant that the believe an entire fan base thinks and acts alike.

[FromWayDowntown]

I've never understood the point of arguing that the Spurs are boring. The Spurs aren't boring to Spurs fans. And watching games throughout the season, it's rather clear that there are lots of Spurs fans around the country -- arguably, the bandwagon has grown considerably in the last few years.

Boring, ultimately, is an entirely subjective determination. Frankly, I find games that are nothing but offense to be boring. There's no suspense in wondering when and how the next basket will come; the suspense comes from waiting to see which team will make a mistake that will cost it an easy bucket. Why is that fun? To me, there's inherently more tension in a tight, low-scoring game in which every possession is critical to the success or failure of the teams playing. I think it makes for better basketball, too, because you're certain that at every moment, each team is giving everything it has on both ends of the floor. Frequently, with teams that are considered "entertaining," by whatever establishment defines that, you have the sense that the defensive end is a time for taking a break to get ready for the next offensive possession.

Perhaps I've been suckered into thinking that good, tight games without high-flying offenses and with dominating defenses are somehow entertaining. Somehow, I'm able to derive entertainment from watching NBA games without needing to see 20 dunks each night. Maybe I'm unsophisticated, or I suppose I might just not be hip enough to truly grasp what should entertain me. But, given the reactions that I see (and hear) when I go to games, it seems apparent to me that thousands of others share my sentiment.

Ultimately, I'll end where I began. Boring, like beauty, is entirely in the eye of the beholder. The value of the team I support or its worthiness as a potential champion does not and should not turn on the degree to which it is able to entertain the most common denominator. My team's worthiness as a potential champion turns exclusively on how well it executes the things that it must do to win games. If being a "winning machine" is boring, well then sign me up, because boring sure has become beautiful around San Antonio.

[samikeyp]

Winning never gets boring.

[5ToolMan]

I've never understood the point of arguing that the Spurs are boring. The Spurs aren't boring to Spurs fans. And watching games throughout the season, it's rather clear that there are lots of Spurs fans around the country -- arguably, the bandwagon has grown considerably in the last few years.

Boring, ultimately, is an entirely subjective determination. Frankly, I find games that are nothing but offense to be boring. There's no suspense in wondering when and how the next basket will come; the suspense comes from waiting to see which team will make a mistake that will cost it an easy bucket. Why is that fun? To me, there's inherently more tension in a tight, low-scoring game in which every possession is critical to the success or failure of the teams playing. I think it makes for better basketball, too, because you're certain that at every moment, each team is giving everything it has on both ends of the floor. Frequently, with teams that are considered "entertaining," by whatever establishment defines that, you have the sense that the defensive end is a time for taking a break to get ready for the next offensive possession.

Perhaps I've been suckered into thinking that good, tight games without high-flying offenses and with dominating defenses are somehow entertaining. Somehow, I'm able to derive entertainment from watching NBA games without needing to see 20 dunks each night. Maybe I'm unsophisticated, or I suppose I might just not be hip enough to truly grasp what should entertain me. But, given the reactions that I see (and hear) when I go to games, it seems apparent to me that thousands of others share my sentiment.

Ultimately, I'll end where I began. Boring, like beauty, is entirely in the eye of the beholder. The value of the team I support or its worthiness as a potential champion does not and should not turn on the degree to which it is able to entertain the most common denominator. My team's worthiness as a potential champion turns exclusively on how well it executes the things that it must do to win games. If being a "winning machine" is boring, well then sign me up, because boring sure has become beautiful around San Antonio.

Your post was to the point, quite beautiful ... but boring. :lol

[judaspriestess]

1) The Spurs are still boring. If you have seen one Spurs game, you have seen them all.

"Duncan holds the ball for eight seconds....and hits a bank shot for ten feet out".

"Ginobili hits the ground".

"Popovic calls another timeout"

"Horry hits a three"

2) That doesn't mean they don't win. Suns assistant GM David Griffith labeled them a "winning machine" which i would say is accurate.

:lol I feel the same way about phoenix and nash (which he did the exact same thing in dallas) runs down to the end of the court then slices down the baseline and dishes it out. book it.

It's a tired play but it definately works.

[Obstructed_View]

I'm bored with the boring label. Do any of the Suns fans have any interesting smack to bring, or do we get to hear "boring" "soft" and "asterisk" for the next five games?

[samikeyp]

I'm bored with the boring label. Do any of the Suns fans have any interesting smack to bring, or do we get to hear "boring" "soft" and "asterisk" for the next five games?

Sadly, its all that the ignorant and foolish have in their arsenal.

[Spurminator]

I've got no problem with the casual NBA fan finding Spurs Basketball boring. They don't have a rooting interest in the Spurs, and if they're not excited about a Tim Duncan bank shot or a Parker layup, that's a matter of taste.

It's when other fans try to use this as some kind of insult that confuses me... It's supposed to bother me that you don't enjpy watching Spurs Basketball? Why would I ever care as long as I enjoy it?

[samikeyp]

it's when other fans try to use this as some kind of insult that confuses me

I agree. I am not saying that everyone everywhere should love the Spurs or their style of play but if you are going to diss a team...at least make sense. People who do that care less about winning then they do about a team looking good.

[Obstructed_View]

I've got no problem with the casual NBA fan finding Spurs Basketball boring. They don't have a rooting interest in the Spurs, and if they're not excited about a Tim Duncan bank shot or a Parker layup, that's a matter of taste.

It's when other fans try to use this as some kind of insult that confuses me... It's supposed to bother me that you don't enjpy watching Spurs Basketball? Why would I ever care as long as I enjoy it?
I just find it interesting that anyone claiming to be a basketball fan wouldn't enjoy well executed basketball with good defense and exciting players. Seriously, anyone that can say that Parker and Ginobili aren't fun to watch hasn't been watching (which is the point). "Ur tem iz boring. i dont watch them becuz there boring."

[romad_20]

Isn't saying the Spurs are boring analogous to saying the New England Patriots are boring?

Exactly.

On a side note.... The Mavs are still the most exciting chokers I have ever seen!

[DarrinS]

People who say the Spurs are boring and that run-and-chuck no-defense teams are entertaining are the same people who think the fights in Rocky movies are examples of good boxing.

[Strike]

Which would you rather have?

-Championships or early exits?
-Celebrating with your buddies when your team wins or sulking
when they lose?
-Championship parades or "wait until next year"?

Watching your team raise championship banners on opening night
or watching other teams raising banners on opening night?

I'm sure there are hundreds of thousands of fans of the 14 teams
who didn't make the playoffs who are a hell of a lot more
bored right now than Spurs fans.

All of you fans of the "flash and flair" teams can have the excitement
of watching your teams' early exits.

I'll take "boring" championship ceremonies any day of the week.

[dav4463]

Ginobli and Parker make their share of circus shots adding some spice to the game for those video game junkies who want flashy plays.

[cherylsteele]

:toast

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I swear to god Nash looks like someone tried to develop a photo and screwed it up and got a double exposure.

[Russ]

I have a great cure for the Spurs "boring" reputation. They take their jerseys and replace "San Antonio" with "New York."

They would become instantly exciting. They would have multiple books written about them. In fact, they would be one of the most intriguing dynasties of all time!

[SpurForLife]

Again...if I think Duncan is boring, then I must only like all-star games and Jerry Springer?

Why is it that people like Magic, Bird, Garnett, Pippen, Jordan etc. etc. never got the boring label and Duncan does???

Is it because everyone outside of San Antonio only likes All star games and Jerry Springer?

btw - I can't tell you the Spurs won't beat the Suns. Im not a vodoo fortune teller.

But i can tell you that win or lose, the Spurs will still be boring.


And I can tell you that win or lose The Phoeny Suns still don't play a lick of defense!!!

[ATXSPUR]

lol suns fans say we are boring like we actually care. If your teams is winning how can that be boring? Who gives a hell if we entertain the casual national fans? I dont!!! Give me rings anyday.

[cornbread]

Did boring old Tim Duncan have more dunks than the entire Suns team today?

[LilMissSPURfect]

Did boring spurs slow the game to a pulse?

[cornbread]

Did boring spurs slow the game to a pulse?
It was probably the most boring game that's ever been televised.

[LilMissSPURfect]

Chalk up another win for the boys....this time only 111 points...... Spurs need to push it more! :clap

[gtownspur]

Spurs = boring


Suns = ringless and bloody.

[L.I.T]

I fell asleep during the game, what happened?

[Strike]

(Insert sarcastic tone here for all the morons.)

Dude I was bored to tears watching the Spurs beat Phoenix. What with all the lead changes, defense, the Nash/Parker collision, etc.

I couldn't believe the unbelievable amount of boredom. Damn near slashed my wrists with my butterfly knife.

(End sarcastic tone)

These fucking guys.

[impala_07]

Spurs are so boring i had to sign up for this boring forum. Why do you spurs fans want? You cant play incredible defense, half court basketball and abuse the paint and be classified in the same category of entertainment as the suns, warriors and nuggets.

I'm not saying the spurs aren't good, their excellent and all you spurs fan I am sure have fun watching your team with 50 games every year. But i rather watch a game with high flying dunks, alley oops and flashy passes then just watch my team win after game. Remember the game is for entertainment not just watching your team with games

Why do you think the Spurs are never in the music highlights? Tim Duncan's abuses the backboard, Robert Horry ends up in the corner somehow wide open for 3 and Bowen's head in incredibly shiny. The most interesting person on that team in Ginobli since he pushes the ball every chance he gets and seems to make a layup regardless of how hard he's hit on a foul or where he is on the court.


The spurs are like those guys who live a boring, conservative, serious life, then turn 50 and decide want to have fun by buying a convertible corvette and shades. I'm sure most of you spurs fan are those guys mentioned above.

I'm going to watch my Warriors play the Jazz in 30 Min
estimated final score 145 - 117. Thats what i call basketball

:clap

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[samikeyp]

Maybe for you its just about entertainment but other people have other reasons for watching games. Me personally, I just like watching my team play.

Besides...winning titles never gets boring. :)

[FromWayDowntown]

Need to see shiny objects to be entertained forum.

[impala_07]

Need to see shiny objects to be entertained forum.


Spurs were mentioned in PTI on ESPN today.

"The NBA's new division/playoff ranking system is garbage and they have messed up again. Not only will the finals be boring (Spurs vs Pistons) but the western finals with be incredibly boring(Spurs vs Jazz). Statistics show when these teams play TV ratings drop. Maybe next year the NBA will change the rules and the NBA finals will be similar the NYC subway serious (Mets vs Yankees) and have two exiting teams (Warriors vs Suns)"


Check this page out

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20070430234136AAm8Nss

[impala_07]

P.S. the spurs jerseys are so boring and conservative. Do they even have an alternate jersey? I know they have the one retro jersey which looks pretty much like the regular season jersey. Maybe if they change their colors the game will look more exiting.

Spurs are the PC in (Mac vs PC) commercials.

http://www.filegunner.net/uploadedimages/368822mac_pc.png




Im done with this forum. The Warriors and Jazz game just tipped off.

[FromWayDowntown]

Spurs were mentioned in PTI on ESPN today.

"The NBA's new division/playoff ranking system is garbage and they have messed up again. Not only will the finals be boring (Spurs vs Pistons) but the western finals with be incredibly boring(Spurs vs Jazz). Statistics show when these teams play TV ratings drop. Maybe next year the NBA will change the rules and the NBA finals will be similar the NYC subway serious (Mets vs Yankees) and have two exiting teams (Warriors vs Suns)"


Check this page out

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20070430234136AAm8Nss

Why not just make it the WWE? Seriously, if it's just about entertainment and who will bring the most viewers to their televisions, then why even bother with the notion of there being a real competitive element to the game? Preordain winners to ensure "exciting" matchups that will keep ratings high and do away with the notion of one team actually being better than another. That's what people want, isn't it?

[jmard5]

I practicallly like how the Spurs play as a team. Maybe that mentality got into me that even when I play NBA live, 2k7 or arcade baskeball, I run a low-post play, waiting for the CPU to double team Duncan and then kick-out to the open shooter. :lol

[L.I.T]

This guy is getting pretty damn high on the Unintentional Hilarity meter.

[ShoogarBear]

Need to see shiny objects to be entertained forum.Oooooooh, look! Pretty shiny objects!

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[Lebowski Brickowski]

:soapbox:
It has become clear to me that no matter who plays on the Spurs or how exciting they are, PTi, Cold Pizza, and all the other b.s. talking heads at b.s.p.n. will ALWAYS call them boring. I personally stopped giving a fuck in 2005 when I saw the most exciting Finals of my life ( I started watching in 1984). When the ratings for that finals series came out, all I could do was laugh.

I think the Spurs are the ONLY exciting thing about the NBA. And I'm not exaggerating. They and a couple of other teams (_allas maybe, detroit, chicago maybe, Phoenix but ONLY because of Nash) are the only reasons to watch an NBA game anymore.

I can't imagine watching a primetime lakers v Knicks game. That would bore me to tears.

I'll tell you what I find boring:

watching a "superstar" take 45 shots to score 30 points.

watching a whole game to see 3 Lebron dunks in a losing cause

watching entire teams that let people blow by them on defense because "shit, it wont make bspn highlights."

listening to Gilbert Arenas open his mouth

wondering what DWade will try to sell me on the next commercial break

wondering what "starbury's" new shoe will look like

If I cared about all of that bullshit, I would watch espn.

No Thanks

I'll take my Spurs and fuck all the rest.

:flag:

[samikeyp]

I would rather be "boring" and have three titles than "flashy" and not have shit.

[lrrr]

Hey Spurs fan, what was YOUR FAVORITE Duncan highlight this year? Seriously, search through youtube and find me your favorite Duncan play.

Go on, find something that will REALLY impress me!!!

But don't be surprised if you get a sarcastic "WOOOOOOOOW" in return.

...I would have to say the turnaround hook shot form 15 feet to give the Spurs the lead on Sunday...

[Trainwreck2100]

we are already getting Warriors trolls?

[cornbread]

Why not just make it the WWE? Seriously, if it's just about entertainment and who will bring the most viewers to their televisions, then why even bother with the notion of there being a real competitive element to the game? Preordain winners to ensure "exciting" matchups that will keep ratings high and do away with the notion of one team actually being better than another. That's what people want, isn't it?
Let's take it one step further. We eliminate the playoffs altogether and instead America votes for its Finals match up ala American Idol. Maybe Sanjia can be a guest referee and Ryan Seacrest can do commentary. That way fans of teams that never win shit can stop complaining about how bored they are :cry and they can have that entertaining Finals that they've always dreamed about.

[FromWayDowntown]

The "boring" Spurs scored 111 points in their first 2nd round game.

The "exciting" Warriors scored 112.

[samikeyp]

The "boring" Spurs scored 111 points in their first 2nd round game.

The "exciting" Warriors scored 112.

And, im sorry...which team won their game? :)

[mabber]

To the casual fan, it's all about the perception that the media creates. That perception is all the casual fan has to fall back on. The real fan knows better.

[LilMissSPURfect]

To the casual fan, it's all about the perception that the media creates. That perception is all the casual fan has to fall back on. The real fan knows better.

Will the "casual fan" then PLEASE SHUT UP PLEASE SHUT UP :elephant

[dreamcastrocks]

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And I can tell you that win or lose The Phoeny Suns still don't play a lick of defense!!!

Tell that to Manu Ginobili.

[LilMissSPURfect]

Tell that to Manu Ginobili.


Their are other contributions to the game than just on the OFFENSIVE end.



I'll give you that Raja ding dong Bell is dooing a job on manu. But why would manu have to force himself into the offensive end when Tony and Timmy got it going? Manu creates for others and MAKES you keep yo eye on him...

[dreamcastrocks]

Their are other contributions to the game than just on the OFFENSIVE end.



I'll give you that Raja ding dong Bell is dooing a job on manu. But why would manu have to force himself into the offensive end when Tony and Timmy got it going? Manu creates for others and MAKES you keep yo eye on him...

I don't get it. First you are telling me that there are other contributions to the game than just on the offensive end, and then you recognize that Raja is going a good job on Manu? Seems a bit contradictory to me.

I don't know if Manu should force himself or not. If Parker has a bad shooting night tonight, will he be aggressive enough to force it? Time will tell.

[TampaDude]

Anybody else sick and tired of hearing this? It seems to be popular opinion of fans who don't watch the Spurs.

I know this has been discussed before, but do any of you think that this bias might work against the Spurs in their upcoming series against the Suns since their might be calls that go against them in tight ballgames?

Phoenix is a glamour team that the league would love to see in the finals, while the Spurs are the underappreciated club that puts everyone to sleep, except our loyal fans.

I, for one am hoping that the Spurs take care of business so the games don't come down to this.

Winning is never boring... :toast

[ambchang]

People equate scoring to exciting, so, therefore, not scoring = boring.
It's perfectly OK, some people like looking at balls going through holes, and they find it exciting, let's just say that it's not my cup of tea, if you know what I mean. :D

[Obstructed_View]

I'm going to watch my Warriors play the Jazz in 30 Min
estimated final score 145 - 117. Thats what i call basketball

:clap
You might need to switch teams; the Spurs scored more points than the Warriors did.