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    Anybody else sick and tired of hearing this? It seems to be popular opinion of fans who don't watch the Spurs.

    I know this has been discussed before, but do any of you think that this bias might work against the Spurs in their upcoming series against the Suns since their might be calls that go against them in tight ballgames?

    Phoenix is a glamour team that the league would love to see in the finals, while the Spurs are the underappreciated club that puts everyone to sleep, except our loyal fans.

    I, for one am hoping that the Spurs take care of business so the games don't come down to this.

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    I know this has been discussed before, but do any of you think that this bias might work against the Spurs in their upcoming series against the Suns since their might be calls that go against them in tight ballgames?
    I am, in fact, predicting a flop contest between Ginobli and Bell. I fear the Russian judges may favor Ginobli, with Bell being American and all, but Bell has to be the favorite going into the series. Bell was once again a league leader in faking ... er taking charges, with Ginobli not that far behind.

    Perhaps Bell and Ginobli can just lay on opposite ends of the floor until a ref blows the whistle or someone in the 4-on-4 action scores a bucket.

    Quick fact: Nash was actually the Suns leader in t(f)aking charges, so he has been spotted playing defense this year. Woo hoo! I would have to say he has mastered it by now.

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    I sometimes think this "boring" reputation is what costs the Spurs a lot of calls.

    It's not only untrue, but unfair to tag them with some kind of label like that. Who in the world could watch Ginobili play with reckless abandon and call the Spurs boring? Who can watch Duncan toy with other superstars, and call the Spurs boring? Who can watch Bowen hassle superstar shooters night after night and call the Spurs boring?

    Only someone who doesn't enjoy pure-team-oriented basketball.

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    I am, in fact, predicting a flop contest between Ginobli and Bell. I fear the Russian judges may favor Ginobli, with Bell being American and all, but Bell has to be the favorite going into the series. Bell was once again a league leader in faking ... er taking charges, with Ginobli not that far behind.


    Good stuff Suns fan!

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    Maybe the Spurs do play boring basketball...better to be boring and still playing than be flashy and get bounced in the first round.


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    Anybody else sick and tired of hearing this? It seems to be popular opinion of fans who don't watch the Spurs.

    I know this has been discussed before, but do any of you think that this bias might work against the Spurs in their upcoming series against the Suns since their might be calls that go against them in tight ballgames?

    Phoenix is a glamour team that the league would love to see in the finals, while the Spurs are the underappreciated club that puts everyone to sleep, except our loyal fans.

    I, for one am hoping that the Spurs take care of business so the games don't come down to this.

    Remember Barkley has maintained all year long, that the road to the Championship will have to be through the Spurs....And the Spurs, in his book, will come out on top.

    The Spurs just go about their business and win......

    And he picks them to win it all.

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    1) The Spurs are still boring. If you have seen one Spurs game, you have seen them all.

    "Duncan holds the ball for eight seconds....and hits a bank shot for ten feet out".

    "Ginobili hits the ground".

    "Popovic calls another timeout"

    "Horry hits a three"

    2) That doesn't mean they don't win. Suns assistant GM David Griffith labeled them a "winning machine" which i would say is accurate.

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    What do you expect from people who are completely ignorant about basketball? I couldn't make up a better example than the above post. Hey Suns fan, do you think the all star game is the best game of the season? It has lots of dunks and lots of scoring with no team execution and no defense. Wow, what fun.

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    1) The Spurs are still boring. If you have seen one Spurs game, you have seen them all.

    "Duncan holds the ball for eight seconds....and hits a bank shot for ten feet out".

    "Ginobili hits the ground".

    "Popovic calls another timeout"

    "Horry hits a three"

    2) That doesn't mean they don't win. Suns assistant GM David Griffith labeled them a "winning machine" which i would say is accurate.

    i guess then you just HAVENT SEEN a spurs game ehy? what a dumbass view

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    Boring is hearing all those denver and suns fans booing gino for his effort....Spurs didn't have an answer for carmelo but as a team they shut his team down we didn't boo him !

    quit the whining and go check out re runs of amari doin push ups...coz he won't be doing em next series!

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    I think what ive noticed about spurs fans is that they know a little more about basketball than most. For me, I love watching the spurs because theyre SO incredibly good. After playing basketball with friends and then coming home and watching a spurs game, I just sit and stare in awe of how good they are, offense and especially defense. And its not just that theyre an nba team; theyre a lot better than most nba teams and you can see it. Thats plenty of entertainment for me

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    I think that it's people who haven't played organized, coached basketball, and learned the game, that don't appreciate the Spurs. Unfortunately this is a lot of people.

    For example, I never played football, but I've sat and watched with people who have. They see, literally, 20 times more things than I do in a given play. They appreciate spacing, blocking, fakes, how the snap count is done, and all kinds of stuff like that.

    This makes me understand what it's like for someone who never played except for pickup games maybe feels watching the NBA. There is so much going on that they do not even see, much less appreciate.

    For example, one of the things I absolutely love about the Spurs is their defense in the paint. You saw that over and over again in the second half of the last game against Denver. Someone would drive the lane and the Spurs would converge on him and pressure the shot and the drive enough so that they'd miss 3 out of 4 times. It's not about spectacular blocks, it's about just bothering them enough to get their percentage down. Whenever I see that I just grin stupidly. I'm sure others watching say, "Wow, that player missed an easy layup." Or, worse, "Wow, the refs sure missed that foul."

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    I think that it's people who haven't played organized, coached basketball, and learned the game, that don't appreciate the Spurs. Unfortunately this is a lot of people.

    For example, I never played football, but I've sat and watched with people who have. They see, literally, 20 times more things than I do in a given play. They appreciate spacing, blocking, fakes, how the snap count is done, and all kinds of stuff like that.

    This makes me understand what it's like for someone who never played except for pickup games maybe feels watching the NBA. There is so much going on that they do not even see, much less appreciate.

    For example, one of the things I absolutely love about the Spurs is their defense in the paint. You saw that over and over again in the second half of the last game against Denver. Someone would drive the lane and the Spurs would converge on him and pressure the shot and the drive enough so that they'd miss 3 out of 4 times. It's not about spectacular blocks, it's about just bothering them enough to get their percentage down. Whenever I see that I just grin stupidly. I'm sure others watching say, "Wow, that player missed an easy layup." Or, worse, "Wow, the refs sure missed that foul."

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    LMFAO if you REALLY believe that as a Spurs fan you inherently have a greater knowledge of basketball.

    Ive heard THIS argument before...

    "If you don't like Spurs basketball than you don't know basketball and you only like And 1/All Star game blah blah blah blah"

    Or how bout "People call the spurs boring cuz they don't get in trouble and don't have thugs and are nice guys".

    Well Jordan, Magic and Bird stayed out of trouble and were nice guys and they still weren't boring.

    The Bulls played great defense and they still weren't boring.

    The Shaq/Bryant Lakers played defense and they still weren't boring.

    , even the Rockets were more fun to watch. Hakeem was amazing. INSPIRING!!!! Can't say the same thing about Duncan.

    But what gets me the most is the way Spurs fans act like a bunch of jerks anytime anyone calls their team out.

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    What do you expect from people who are completely ignorant about basketball? I couldn't make up a better example than the above post. Hey Suns fan, do you think the all star game is the best game of the season? It has lots of dunks and lots of scoring with no team execution and no defense. Wow, what fun.

    Hey Spurs fan, what was YOUR FAVORITE Duncan highlight this year? Seriously, search through youtube and find me your favorite Duncan play.

    Go on, find something that will REALLY impress me!!!

    But don't be surprised if you get a sarcastic "WOOOOOOOOW" in return.

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    Hey Spurs fan, what was YOUR FAVORITE Duncan highlight this year?
    It's usually something like this:


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    Hey Spurs fan, what was YOUR FAVORITE Duncan highlight this year? Seriously, search through youtube and find me your favorite Duncan play.

    Go on, find something that will REALLY impress me!!!

    But don't be surprised if you get a sarcastic "WOOOOOOOOW" in return.

    winking at his daughter last night!

    Basketball and highlights on BSPN is all about the offensive...One quick one that come to mind is that STOCK>>>>> (block and steal of YAO MING) !!

    since it came at the defensive end......SUNS fans can't appreciate

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    Hey Spurs fan, what was YOUR FAVORITE Duncan highlight this year? Seriously, search through youtube and find me your favorite Duncan play.

    Go on, find something that will REALLY impress me!!!

    But don't be surprised if you get a sarcastic "WOOOOOOOOW" in return.

    winking at his daughter last night!

    Basketball and highlights on BSPN is all about the offensive ooohh wow.....it's one on none breakaway to the basket ....

    ...One quick one that come to mind is that STOCK>>>>> (block and steal of YAO MING) !!

    since it came at the defensive end......SUNS fans can't appreciate

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    I am, in fact, predicting a flop contest between Ginobli and Bell. I fear the Russian judges may favor Ginobli, with Bell being American and all, but Bell has to be the favorite going into the series. Bell was once again a league leader in faking ... er taking charges, with Ginobli not that far behind.

    Perhaps Bell and Ginobli can just lay on opposite ends of the floor until a ref blows the whistle or someone in the 4-on-4 action scores a bucket.

    Quick fact: Nash was actually the Suns leader in t(f)aking charges, so he has been spotted playing defense this year. Woo hoo! I would have to say he has mastered it by now.
    Good stuff

    Props to Nash for almost perfecting the flop. I'm serious...he finally realized that he's not big enough or strong enough to guard anyone so he learned the flop. As silly as it sounds, it makes the Suns a better defensive team.

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    It's usually something like this:

    X 3.

    All Suns fans can brag about is the half court shot Gar Heard made in Game 5 of the 1976 finals to force OT against the Celtics...a game the Suns still lost.

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    Hey Spurs fan, what was YOUR FAVORITE Duncan highlight this year? Seriously, search through youtube and find me your favorite Duncan play.

    Go on, find something that will REALLY impress me!!!

    But don't be surprised if you get a sarcastic "WOOOOOOOOW" in return.
    What's amazing to me is that I call you out for not understanding the nuances of great basketball and you ask for highlights in return. Again, , the all-star game is full of highlights. Duncan doesn't throw down amazing dunks anymore, but a great block or good defense or a great pass is every bit as satisfying to me.

    Not suprising, though, coming from a bandwagon troll who roots for a team that doesn't play defense.

    I'll be waiting for your sarcastic comments about the Spurs parade, too. I'll send you a link to Amare's youtube videos to make you happy.

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    winking at his daughter last night!

    Basketball and highlights on BSPN is all about the offensive...One quick one that come to mind is that STOCK>>>>> (block and steal of YAO MING) !!

    since it came at the defensive end......SUNS fans can't appreciate

    I liked the fake pass on Mutombo when he completely had him turned around.

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    I think what ive noticed about spurs fans is that they know a little more about basketball than most. For me, I love watching the spurs because theyre SO incredibly good. After playing basketball with friends and then coming home and watching a spurs game, I just sit and stare in awe of how good they are, offense and especially defense. And its not just that theyre an nba team; theyre a lot better than most nba teams and you can see it. Thats plenty of entertainment for me
    This is probably true for the following reason...The core fan base of all teams have a good knowledge of basketball. The Spurs probably have a bigger core fan base since it's the only pro team in town. Basically, there are just more hoops fans in San Antonio so there are going to be more fans that follow the game more closely. I would speculate it being similar for Jazz fans. If it's the only game in town you generally end up learning more about it even if you're not trying to. This is what I believe anyway.

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    What's amazing to me is that I call you out for not understanding the nuances of great basketball and you ask for highlights in return. Again, , the all-star game is full of highlights. Duncan doesn't throw down amazing dunks anymore, but a great block or good defense or a great pass is every bit as satisfying to me.

    Not suprising, though, coming from a bandwagon troll who roots for a team that doesn't play defense.

    I'll be waiting for your sarcastic comments about the Spurs parade, too. I'll send you a link to Amare's youtube videos to make you happy.
    So we agree then that Spurs are boring?

    Btw - Show me a great Duncan block since your NEW argument is that defensive plays are exciting (even thought the spurs don't even average many steals or blocks).

    Oh...and Duncan doesn't throw down great dunks anymore???

    Feel free to find me your favorite Duncan play EVER!!! Rookie year if you want!!

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    This is probably true for the following reason...The core fan base of all teams have a good knowledge of basketball. The Spurs probably have a bigger core fan base since it's the only pro team in town. Basically, there are just more hoops fans in San Antonio so there are going to be more fans that follow the game more closely. I would speculate it being similar for Jazz fans. If it's the only game in town you generally end up learning more about it even if you're not trying to. This is what I believe anyway.
    I think that's exactly right. I've been listening to ESPN radio in Dallas and they are lamenting how hard a year it's been for Dallas sports fans, that now that the Stars and Mavs are gone in the first round they only have the Rangers until minicamps start. In San Antonio, there's nothing after the Spurs lose.

    The ignorance of the "boring" label, even after the arrival of Ginobili and Parker, two of the most entertaining players in the entire NBA, still completely astounds me. It's almost as stupid as still trying to use the "soft" label. Again, though, what should one expect?

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