Amare and Boris Suspended 1 Game - Horry 2 Games

[mabber]

Amare & Diaw one game each. Horry gets 2 games

Just reported on ESPN.

[TheSanityAnnex]

Just saw on ESPN.

[Gino20]

I believe Amare is out one game and Horry is out two...

[sunsbum]

:rolleyes

[fraga]

Just saw that on ESPN also...

[SA Gunslinger]

Yep, saw it too.

[GrandeDavid]

link? Or did you hear it on the radio or TV?

[mavsfan1000]

FUCK YOU David Stern.

[fraga]

Didn't expect Horry to get 2...

[BeerIsGood!]

I think Horry should have gotten 1 game and Bell a $50,000 fine, but at least they upheld their rules. They did the right thing.

[mVp]

Is this official?

[Ginofan]

Wow!

[LaMarcus Bryant]

This bodes horrible for the spurs. Now Oberto and Elson play more minutes and we lost our smartest player for 2 games.

Horry obviously got suspended for more bc of the forearm to Bell. Sucks.

[fraga]

Yes...the broke in on ESPN for a "Special Report"...how funny is that...

[jmard5]

Stoudemire, Diaw suspended one game
http://www.azcentral.com/sports/suns//articles/0515sunssuspension-ON.html

The Arizona Repbulic
May. 15, 2007 12:21 PM

The NBA today suspended Suns forwards Amare Stoudemire and Boris Diaw one game for leaving the bench during a skirmish that took place during the closing minutes of Game 4 in San Antonio.

Stoudemire and Diaw will not play in Wednesday's Game5 of the Western Conference semifinals at US Airways Center.

The best-of-seven series — already known for its physical nature — is tied 2-2.

Robert Horry was suspended two games. The Spurs veteran started the scuffle with a hard foul on Suns guard Steve Nash with 18.2 seconds left in Phoenix's 104-98 win Monday.

Horry received a 1st Flagrant Type 2 foul and was ejected. Stoudemire and Diaw left the bench, they claim, for different reasons. Stoudemire said he was walking to the scorer's table to check into the game. Diaw said he was just checking to see if Nash was OK.

"I don't think I really came off the bench," Diaw said before the suspension was announced. "I just wanted to see if Steve was hurt."

NBA rules state that during an altercation, "all players not participating in the game must remain in the immediate vicinity of their bench. Violators will be suspended, without pay, for a minimum of one game and fined up to $35,000. The suspensions will commence prior to the start of their next game."

The suspensions leave the Suns shorthanded and without their leading scorer. Stoudemire has averaged 23.5 points and 10.3 rebounds against the Spurs, despite recent foul trouble limiting his minutes. He was the only Suns player to participate in every game this season, regular-season and playoffs combined.

Diaw has averaged 6.8 points, 3.8 rebounds and 3.0 assists in 22.8 minutes. Along with Leandro Barbosa, he is often the first Suns reserve off the bench.

Suns coach Mike D'Antoni wasn't immediately available to comment on the suspensions.

After practice earlier Tuesday, D'Antoni said he wasn't sure who would join his usual eight-man rotation if Stoudemire and Diaw can't play. James Jones or Leandro Barbosa could join Nash, Raja Bell, Kurt Thomas and Shawn Marion in the lineup.

"I'm not there yet, I don't even want to think about it,'' he said. "Somebody's going to log some minutes, I know that much.''

Possibilities include Pat Burke and Jalen Rose.

Rose, a veteran with Finals experience, hasn't played in the Western Conference semifinals, but played nine minutes in Game 2 against the Lakers.

"Everybody feels ready, but until you get out there .. you have to wait and see,'' Rose said.

[Purple & Gold]

Didn't expect Horry to get 2...
They had to give Horry 2 if they we're gonna give Amare and Diaw one each.

[sunsbum]

link?

they just announced it on espn news..

[SpursWoman]

Well ... it doesn't guarantee a win for the Spurs in any case. I was hoping this wouldn't happen, rule or no rule.


Because if the Spurs do win the series, we'll never hear the end of it. :(

[PM5K]

No link, it's on ESPN...

[01Snake]

Yep. Just heard it on local news

[TheSanityAnnex]

Why watch basketball anymore?

I need the football season to start.

[PM5K]

Let the moaning begin...

[greensborohill]

Yeah Boy!!!

[CubanMustGo]

Suspending Horry - with no recent history of hard fouls - 2 games is bullshit.

So is suspending Diaw and Stoudemire.

What a fucking joke the NBA has become.

[bendmz]

Beamer just said.... :clap

[AnkleBreaker21]

yah its true espn just reported it

[dimsah]

:clap Look on the bright side. This means both teams will be full strength come game 7.

[AnkleBreaker21]

i bet the league hated to do it, but even they cant break their own rules

[longrod]

Stoudemire and Diaw 1 game. Horry 2 games. I think the Horry suspension made no sense since he already got ejected from the game. Oh well, those are the breaks!

[fraga]

Yeah but Horry just hip checked Nash...he didn't throw an elbow to his head or anything...I was expecting a 1 game...the other two were no brainers per the rules...

[Vinnie_Johnson]

Here that sucks http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/wire?section=nba&id=2871602

[jn77]

WOAI just reported that it has not been announced by the NBA, but the AP is reporting 2 for Horry, 1 each Amare and Diaw

[King]

A Flagrant 2 is an automatic suspension.

[GrandeDavid]

Wow, its gonna be a crazy hyped environment at tomorrow night's game.

[gino>yourlife]

it's true

lol, suns are fucked

where is your god now d'antoni?

[T Park]

I'll take it.

[OldDirtMcGirt]

Suspending Horry - with no recent history of hard fouls - 2 games is bullshit.

So is suspending Diaw and Stoudemire.

What a fucking joke the NBA has become.

Agreed. Just let them play. This is a fucking stupid rule, I want to see the game decided on the court.

[dbreiden83080]

There it is this whole situation stinks. Well the Spurs had better win this game they have no excuse at all to lose it and be ready for a thunderous Suns effort in game 6 back in SA.

[Behrooz24]

Best Spurs trade since Malik for Nazr

[pooh]

the suspension is about right, Horry really decked Nash big time.

[Ginofan]

Well ... it doesn't guarantee a win for the Spurs in any case. I was hoping this wouldn't happen.


Because if the Spurs do win the series, we'll never hear the end of it. :(
I don't think we would've heard the end of it even if they didn't get suspended. The Spurs will forever hold this "dirty" label over their heads....at least for a while anyway.

I'll take a championship anyway I can get one. At least it's not Game 7 for PHX, and like SW said, it doesn't garantee a win for the Spurs by anymeans. In fact i just might fire up the Suns to play out of their minds. It's all up in the air.

[Spurs rock]

Wow, just wow!

[PM5K]

Yes from an anonymous source..

[Vinnie_Johnson]

Harsh on Horry should have just been 1 game IMO. It still costs the suns more as they will lose in 6 now.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Crap.

Amare and Boris should have been fined, and Rob should have gotten one game.

So, who will play Rob's minutes? Oberto? Red Rocket? :lol

[sunsbum]

The suns are going to come out firing..im still predicting its going to be a great game.

[MannyIsGod]

Bullshit suspensions all around. Horry deserved one game - the 1 game for Amare and Diaw is bullshit.

[DDS4]

Expect a rule change this summer.

[GrandeDavid]

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/B/BKN_SUNS_SPURS_SUSPENSIONS?SITE=TXSAE&SECTION=SPORTS&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2007-05-15-18-56-33

[Gino20]

So, does this mean Duncan and Bowen are safe? Would have they suspended them along with Amare and Diaw?

[gospursgooo]

There is no game 7. The Spurs will win the next two games. It's written in the stone.

[jrod1986]

Enjoy it guys...hopefully most Spurs fans don't want to win this way.

[TheSanityAnnex]

I'll take it.
Punk ass pussy.
And then you'll bitch when people say the series was handed to you.

[Ginofan]

Yeah but Horry just hip checked Nash...he didn't throw an elbow to his head or anything...I was expecting a 1 game...the other two were no brainers per the rules...

I think the suspension was more for the Rob's elbows going against Raja's.

[mavsfan1000]

Stoudemire and Diaw 1 game. Horry 2 games. I think the Horry suspension made no sense since he already got ejected from the game. Oh well, those are the breaks!
omg. What will the spurs do without Horry? :rolleyes Justice was not served this time. Stern is so hung up about the rules. Fuck Stern.

[SAtown]

This blows. Just when the NBA gets a good series going, this shit has to happen. Stern and others can't say that what happened last night didn't add any flavor to the playoffs. This is the only 2-2 series, and it features the 2 best remaining teams in the playoffs.

Good job NBA

[LakeShow]

I knew the league didnt have the balls not to suspend any players. What a pussy league and Horry did not deserve 2 games for that. This league sucks!

[TheSanityAnnex]

Bullshit suspensions all around. Horry deserved one game - the 1 game for Amare and Diaw is bullshit.:tu

[Purple & Gold]

Yeah but Horry just hip checked Nash...he didn't throw an elbow to his head or anything...I was expecting a 1 game...the other two were no brainers per the rules...
To keep the series somewhat even and not let this play decide the series. It was the best call if you were gonna suspend Amare and Diaw for 1 game apiece.

[Vinnie_Johnson]

Bullshit suspensions all around. Horry deserved one game - the 1 game for Amare and Diaw is bullshit.

:clap :clap I agree.

[degenerate_gambler]

So, who will play Rob's minutes? Oberto? Red Rocket? :lol


James White baby

[longrod]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/playoffs2007/news/story?id=2871615

[ManuTastic]

I think that's about right for Cheap Shot Bob, and b.s. for Amare and Diaw. They were nowhere near the 'altercation.'
I never thought I'd be sickened by something one of these Spurs did, but Horry really crossed the line last night. Sit him.

[gtownspur]

:hat

[Tigole Bitties]

The big question is -- will Kiwi boy suit up and shut down Duncan?

[PM5K]

Horry deserved two for sure, a flagrant two at that point in the game deserved a suspension in the first place, add to that his elbow to Bells neck/head got him another...

[ducks]

told you people horry would get 2 games

[Pistons < Spurs]

PHOENIX -- Phoenix center Amare Stoudemire and teammate Boris Diaw have been suspended for one game for leaving the bench after Robert Horry's hard foul of Steve Nash in Game 4 of the Suns' Western Conference semifinal against San Antonio, a person with knowledge of the penalty said Tuesday.

Horry was suspended for two games after knocking Nash into the scorer's table with 18 seconds remaining in the Suns' 104-98 victory in San Antonio Monday night that evened the best-of-seven series 2-2, said the person, who sought anonymity because the official announcement had not yet been made.

[Man of Steel]

Fuck it!

I'll take it!

The Spurs have been clobbered all series long by the Suns under the basket with no alls on the Uns.

The Uns pick out a couple of plays here and there. Fact is the Uns have been mugging Tim Duncan, Manu and Tony on just about EVERY play when they go to the basket and the Spurs have gotten almost No calls!

[longrod]

A Flagrant 2 is an automatic suspension.

Horry deserved a break. He's such a classy guy.

[4-2GSWINS]

horry deserved 1 game

none for amare and boris

nba is fucking bullshit

[whottt]

Horry doesn't matter, if Pop holds true to form I doubt he appears in this series again...

Willis didn't.


And BTW, I don't think what Horry did was that big of a deal...it certainly shouldn't come as any kind of surprise to SpursFans...

And being a fan base and organization that jumps at every chance they get to sign a dog killer or wife beater...that high horse you think you are on, is actually a shetland...

[Vinnie_Johnson]

told you people horry would get 2 games

That might have something to do with the bowen stuff.

[T Park]

Punk ass pussy.
And then you'll bitch when people say the series was handed to you

If they won the ring, I'd point to the 4th banner and say, "Try and take it".

[FromWayDowntown]

A Flagrant 2 is an automatic suspension.

No it isn't. It's an automatic ejection, with the possiblity of a fine of up to $35,000 and a suspension.

[dimsah]

Mavs =

Ah, it's too easy!

[Spurs Dynasty 21]

I am even MORE worried after this suspension for Gm5




the Spurs better play the best game of this series to have a chance

[King]

I understand the suspensions, I hate how the 'rule' gives no wiggle room. A great series is being ruined with Diaw and Amare forced to sit for that.

[jmard5]

how about a first round exit for a 1st seeded team against an 8th seeded team?

[belac2007]

I smell victory tomorrow night for the Spurs folks!

[mavsfan1000]

99 wasn't an asterisk but this one sure is.

[Leetonidas]

I'm sure Duncan will probably dominate the low post now.

[VincentG]

The NBA just handed the series to the Spurs. No doubt. We got the best end of the stick. Horry causes all of this crap and we get the best end of the deal. WOW.

[MannyIsGod]

Yeah - Horry's fucking foul wasn't that bad.

This is bad news for Spurs fans though. Amare isn't what makes that team go round. Neither is Diaw. Its Nash. Nash can easily beat the Spurs on his own - he did it last night.

The chip that should have been on the Spurs shoulder after a loss is now squarly on the shoulder of the Suns. When you add in how poorly the Spurs have fared against shorthanded teams then I'm really not happy about this one bit.

Not good news AT ALL.

[duncan228]

two asterisks!!!!

Does this mean you know we'll win our fourth?
Jumping on the bandwagon yet?

[gtownspur]

I am even MORE worried after this suspension for Gm5




the Spurs better play the best game of this series to have a chance



:lol


yeah right.

[Man of Steel]

Duncan will get 50 points tomorrow.

[Stargazer]

I sort of understand Spurs fans wanting the win any way they can get it, but if you're honest, even Spurs fans can agree on this: If the Spurs win game 5 and then the series, it's tainted. You may not agree that it's "unfair," since you can point to the black and white rule, and maybe you won't agree that Horry "caused" the suspensions, since Amare and Diaw are ultimately responsible for their own actions, but nothing will change the fact that you didn't play the Suns at full strength.

Sucks for everyone.

[T Park]

A great series is because Amare and Diaw are brain dead morons.

[lurker]

Spurs get rewarded for playing dirty. Nice.

[CubanMustGo]

Ha ha ha!!! You guys are too fucking funny. Go back to your MVP circle jerk, lord knows the Mavs and their fans don't have anything better to do after the second consecutive worst choke in NBA playoff history.

"two asterisks" >>>>>>>>>>>> two HUGE CHOKES

[Dre_7]

Asterisk is a lot better then winning 67 reg season games and losing to an 8th seed. :lmao :lmao :lmao

[OldDirtMcGirt]

Not really. This team can't keep up with San Antonio without STAT's rebounding and inside scoring. Our only chance is to win game six.

[dbreiden83080]

This blows. Just when the NBA gets a good series going, this shit has to happen. Stern and others can't say that what happened last night didn't add any flavor to the playoffs. This is the only 2-2 series, and it features the 2 best remaining teams in the playoffs.

Good job NBA

They had no choice at all the rule is the rule. I kept citing the Knicks in 97 when they lost basically half their team over a situation like this. They can and i think will change the rule in the offseason but they can't make the exemption during a series like this they had to suspend them.

[ANEMBK]

http://www.azcentral.com/sports/suns/

[jn77]

Free ELY!!

[sunsbum]

one thing i can say is the suns will not lay down... when you piss nash off he drops 40+ on you, i think itll still be a close game, we still have the firepower.

[atxrocker]

lol @ spurs fans trying to angle this as not being a good thing for them. the series was just handed to you assholes. congratulations.

[dimsah]

Thanks for crowning us so early, but there are still ball games to be played.
If the Spurs do win game 5 they still have to play game 6 with PHX at full strength
and SA down one clutch playoff 3 pt shooter.

The best that could happen is that this does go to 7 games and has both squads at full strength.

[atxrocker]

although a short handed suns win would be beyond awesome.

[ABDENOUR POWER]

Lame, lame, lame, lame, lame.

Robert Horry takes a cheapshot and the Spurs are rewarded with having two of Phoenix's top players suspended. Horry should have been suspended one game, but thats IT. His hard foul wasn't much more than just physical playoff basketball, but in combination with his elbow, I can see it meriting a one game suspension. Considering that no fight was started, however, suspending Stoudemire and Diaw was weak. I don't care about the "rules are rules" crap some Spurs fans are throwing around. No harm was done, and no punches thrown by them. Why ruin a great series with controversy, and reward a borderline cheapshot by Horry? Stupid move by David Stern.

[FromWayDowntown]

I don't think you get to activate a player to replace a guy who is suspended, though I might be wrong. I think the penalty of suspension has a bit less kick if you can activate another guy.

[PM5K]

The asterisk needs to be on the Suns record:

* Suns cost themselves the series when two of their players left the bench during an altercation and were forced so sit out the pivotal fifth game.


But in all seriousness, it's far from over..

[TheSanityAnnex]

If they won the ring, I'd point to the 4th banner and say, "Try and take it".
You are a fool and a disgrace to your fanbase.

[BeerIsGood!]

It doesn't matter if the Spurs benefit or the Suns benefit or whatever. All that matter is that all three broke rules and in the case of Diaw and Stoudemire the rule they broke warrants an automatic one game suspension. The NBA didn't want to do it, but they had no choice. If they let them slide, they contradict everything they've been doing to stop fights in the last 10 years and open up all kinds of worm holes from here on out that would have ended up in players possibly suing the league for discrimination if they were suspended for breaking a rule when these two were let to slide free.

[ducks]

this is a 7 game series not 5
they did not hand the spurs the series
suns have home court in 3 games left

[lurker]

although a short handed suns win would be beyond awesome.
I'd do cartwheels if that happened.

[Tobias]

of course you do.

Its time for the Flight of White!

[duncan228]

well, i wouldnt say "win", but ya, you guys sure have a better chance now.

We have Tim Duncan. For ten years he's the only chance we've needed.

I've tried to stay out of the smack talk with you guys but you make it hard to ignore you.
Dirk disappeared. At least Duncan is in the hunt even with a "bad" game for him.

[gtownspur]

I don't think you get to activate a player to replace a guy who is suspended, though I might be wrong. I think the penalty of suspension has a bit less kick if you can activate another guy.


just put Vaughn on the IR and activate either one.

[Trainwreck2100]

FREE THE KiWI!!!!!!!!!!!

[GrandeDavid]

Suspensions or not, the Spurs would come to play as if it were an elimination game. I think there will be lots of adrenaline early on, but the Spurs know they have to capitalize on this situation. Not sure if Nash's 40+ would ultimately matter. But nothing's a given, I agree.

[Purple & Gold]

I agree the Suns will play extremely hard. They will be more dangerous than people think.

[atxrocker]

Lame, lame, lame, lame, lame.

Robert Horry takes a cheapshot and the Spurs are rewarded with having two of Phoenix's top players suspended. Horry should have been suspended one game, but thats IT. His hard foul wasn't much more than just physical playoff basketball, but in combination with his elbow, I can see it meriting a one game suspension. Considering that no fight was started, however, suspending Stoudemire and Diaw was weak. I don't care about the "rules are rules" crap some Spurs fans are throwing around. No harm was done, and no punches thrown by them. Why ruin a great series with controversy, and reward a borderline cheapshot by Horry? Stupid move by David Stern.


I agree with this guy.

[BeerIsGood!]

If you don't like it - Blame Stoudemire and Diaw. If they weren't idiots they wouldn't be in this situation. GOT DAMNIT PEOPLE - HOLD PEOPLE ACCOUNTABLE!!

[Kermit]

It doesn't matter if the Spurs benefit or the Suns benefit or whatever. All that matter is that all three broke rules and in the case of Diaw and Stoudemire the rule they broke warrants an automatic one game suspension. The NBA didn't want to do it, but they had no choice. If they let them slide, they contradict everything they've been doing to stop fights in the last 10 years and open up all kinds of worm holes from here on out that would have ended up in players possibly suing the league for discrimination if they were suspended for breaking a rule when these two were let to slide free.


definitely. they had to do this. it doesn't make it right, but they had to.

[word]

The refs saved the Suns in game 4. This just evens it out.

[AlamoSpursFan]

Yeah - Horry's fucking foul wasn't that bad.

This is bad news for Spurs fans though. Amare isn't what makes that team go round. Neither is Diaw. Its Nash. Nash can easily beat the Spurs on his own - he did it last night.

The chip that should have been on the Spurs shoulder after a loss is now squarly on the shoulder of the Suns. When you add in how poorly the Spurs have fared against shorthanded teams then I'm really not happy about this one bit.

Not good news AT ALL.

Manny's right. This sucks.

Pop always says that when something like this happens, the other team rises up and plays better. And then the Spurs go out and prove him right.

Dammit, dammit, dammit.

[mVp]

James White!

[longrod]

Horry made a personal sacrifice and delivered for his team just at the right moment - once again. What a brilliant tactical move! He needs to be applauded for what he did. I hope that the younger Spurs learn from him.

[Leetonidas]

For what? Neither will play. If anything, activate Ely.

[OldDirtMcGirt]

If you don't like it - Blame Stoudemire and Diaw. If they weren't idiots they wouldn't be in this situation. GOT DAMNIT PEOPLE - HOLD PEOPLE ACCOUNTABLE!!

Awwww, were they breathing on the Spurs too hard? Seriously, and people call the Suns pussies...

[gtownspur]

and if legal,

vaughn on IR and White and Butlick on the active roster.

[aaronstampler]

Bullshit suspensions all around. Horry deserved one game - the 1 game for Amare and Diaw is bullshit.


I agree. I'm not happy at all about this. I don't want to win this way. I think the refs will totally overcompinsate now and give the SUNS every call imaginable in Game 5. The Big Three should be ready for a lot of non-called hacks.

[Stargazer]

I sort of understand Spurs fans wanting the win any way they can get it, but if you're honest, even Spurs fans can agree on this: If the Spurs win game 5 and then the series, it's tainted. You may not agree that it's "unfair," since you can point to the black and white rule, and maybe you won't agree that Horry "caused" the suspensions, since Amare and Diaw are ultimately responsible for their own actions, but nothing will change the fact that you didn't play the Suns at full strength.

Sucks for everyone.

[TampaDude]

Yup...1 game for Diaw and Stoudemire, and 2 for Horry...just as many of us expected.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

I almost think the thought process by the league on this was 'well, we have to suspend Diaw and Amare according to the rules, so we need to make Horry's a two game suspension so it's worse than theirs'.

[T Park]

You are a fool and a disgrace to your fanbase.

coming from white trash sacramentan, I'll take it for what its worth.

[mardigan]

They will play hard, doesnt mean they wont lose by 10 plus

[yavozerb]

Suns better get ready for a dose of "Red Rocket" tomm..LOL

[UV Ray]

this is a 7 game series not 5
they did not hand the spurs the series
suns have home court in 3 games left

Get real Homer.

[SenorSpur]

The NBA just handed the series to the Spurs. No doubt. We got the best end of the stick. Horry causes all of this crap and we get the best end of the deal. WOW.

Tap the brakes a bit guys. Nothing is assured. Hell, the Spurs dominated the Suns for the majority of Game #4 and still lost in the final 2:30.

The Suns will undoubtedly play with surging emotion and with a "nothing to lose"-type attitude. Plus, Horry is a very important piece to what the Spurs do. Now, he's gone for 2 games.

I wouldn't exactly hand to series over to the Spurs yet.

[lilmads]

Associated Press
Posted: 2 minutes ago



PHOENIX (AP) - Phoenix center Amare Stoudemire and teammate Boris Diaw were suspended Tuesday for one game for leaving the bench after Robert Horry's flagrant foul of Steve Nash in Game 4 of the Suns' Western Conference semifinal against San Antonio.

The NBA also announced Horry was suspended for two games for knocking Nash into the scorer's table with 18 seconds remaining in the Suns' 104-98 victory at San Antonio on Monday night. Phoenix's victory evened the series at 2-2.
All three players will miss Wednesday night's Game 5 in Phoenix of what has been a rough, intense showdown between two of the best teams in the NBA. Horry also will miss Friday night's Game 6 in San Antonio.

Horry was suspended for flagrantly fouling Nash and striking Raja Bell about the shoulders with a forearm, NBA executive vice president Stu Jackson said in a statement. Stoudemire and Diaw were suspended for leaving "the immediate vicinity of their bench" during the altercation.

[atxrocker]

The refs saved the Suns in game 4. This just evens it out.


you gotta be goddamn shittin me

[dimsah]

Seriously, I don't want to see Vaughn play more than 3 minutes in game 5.
Have Manu or Barry play backup point.

[Ginofan]

:lol Silly Mavfan.

Get the fuck over it. Players broke rules, and they paid the price. That doesn't hand the championship directly to the Spurs, christ. There's plenty of games left in this series not to mention the next one and the finals after that.

[dbreiden83080]

Lame, lame, lame, lame, lame.

Robert Horry takes a cheapshot and the Spurs are rewarded with having two of Phoenix's top players suspended. Horry should have been suspended one game, but thats IT. His hard foul wasn't much more than just physical playoff basketball, but in combination with his elbow, I can see it meriting a one game suspension. Considering that no fight was started, however, suspending Stoudemire and Diaw was weak. I don't care about the "rules are rules" crap some Spurs fans are throwing around. No harm was done, and no punches thrown by them. Why ruin a great series with controversy, and reward a borderline cheapshot by Horry? Stupid move by David Stern.

Horry and the Spurs are not responsible for the Suns reactions to what happened. This situation sucks but they came out on the court and they knew the rule said that they can't.

[T Park]

I think the refs will totally overcompinsate now and give the SUNS every call imaginable in Game 5. The Big Three should be ready for a lot of non-called hacks.

so it'll be like last night?

Ok.

[SenorSpur]

Enjoy it guys...hopefully most Spurs fans don't want to win this way.

Hell no! I don't want to win this way. I don't want there to be any excuses if and when the Spurs get through this series. But hey, there's not much that can be done.

[BeerIsGood!]

Lame, lame, lame, lame, lame.

Robert Horry takes a cheapshot and the Spurs are rewarded with having two of Phoenix's top players suspended. Horry should have been suspended one game, but thats IT. His hard foul wasn't much more than just physical playoff basketball, but in combination with his elbow, I can see it meriting a one game suspension. Considering that no fight was started, however, suspending Stoudemire and Diaw was weak. I don't care about the "rules are rules" crap some Spurs fans are throwing around. No harm was done, and no punches thrown by them. Why ruin a great series with controversy, and reward a borderline cheapshot by Horry? Stupid move by David Stern.

HOLD PEOPLE ACCOUNTABLE FOR THEIR ACTIONS MAN!!! Horry didn't walk over to the Suns bench and pick up Stoudemire and Diaw and drag their dumb asses on the court. They chose to do it knowing the consequences. For once I'd like to hear someone man up and blame these idiots for screwing up. In our society people like you blame everyone but themselves for their fucking mistakes. It's sickening.

[yavozerb]

With very few big bodies left for suns I think it will be white..They are going to go very small tomm.

[tlongII]

UNBEAVABLE! Merry Christmas to the Spurs! This is the biggest travesty of justice I've ever seen in the NBA!

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

By the way, :lol at the situation in general and people saying it's cheap for Spurs fans to want to win this game.

So fucking what. Phoenix was desperate enough to win game 4 that they cried and campaigned and got a ridiculously sympathetic officiating crew in that game.

Karma's a bitch.

[TampaDude]

I sort of understand Spurs fans wanting the win any way they can get it, but if you're honest, even Spurs fans can agree on this: If the Spurs win game 5 and then the series, it's tainted. You may not agree that it's "unfair," since you can point to the black and white rule, and maybe you won't agree that Horry "caused" the suspensions, since Amare and Diaw are ultimately responsible for their own actions, but nothing will change the fact that you didn't play the Suns at full strength.

Sucks for everyone.

Agreed. I'd rather play the Suns straight up...win or lose...this sucks.

[TheSanityAnnex]

coming from white trash sacramentan
Don't you work at a fucking CARNIVAL? :lmao

By the way, I've never lived in Sacramento.

[T Park]

Awwww, were they breathing on the Spurs too hard? Seriously, and people call the Suns pussies

WTF are you talking about chode?

[atxrocker]

coming from white trash sacramentan, I'll take it for what its worth.


wow, already with the city smack. weak. and let's not bring up trashy without looking at the average salary in SA you dumb fuck.

[ForeignFan]

also on nba.com : http://www.nba.com/news/spurssunssuspension_070515.html

[sunsbum]

HOLD PEOPLE ACCOUNTABLE FOR THEIR ACTIONS MAN!!! Horry didn't walk over to the Suns bench and pick up Stoudemire and Diaw and drag their dumb asses on the court. They chose to do it knowing the consequences. For once I'd like to hear someone man up and blame these idiots for screwing up. In our society people like you blame everyone but themselves for their fucking mistakes. It's sickening.

keep spewing your bullshit.

[T Park]

Don't you work at a fucking CARNIVAL

yup

Whats your point?

Oh thats right, you've never seen where I work, so you wouldn't know...

Figures..

[BeerIsGood!]

Awwww, were they breathing on the Spurs too hard? Seriously, and people call the Suns pussies...
WTF? WHO CHOSE TO GO ON THE COURT? ANSWER THE QUESTION MOTHER FUCKER!!!!

[CubanMustGo]

Horry and the Spurs are not responsible for the Suns reactions to what happened. This situation sucks but they came out on the court and they knew the rule said that they can't.

Give me a break. If this happened to our guys you'd be screaming bloody murder and rightfully so.

Horry gave Nash a solid hard foul, Nash flopped into the scorers table, one game for Horry and zip for everyone else. What crap.

[T Park]

By the way, at the situation in general and people saying it's cheap for Spurs fans to want to win this game.

So fucking what. Phoenix was desperate enough to win game 4 that they cried and campaigned and got a ridiculously sympathetic officiating crew in that game.

Karma's a bitch


Exactly friggen right.

Props aggie :tu

[1SUNSFAN]

SWEET! I can't wait for the Suns scrubs to beat the Spurs! This is going to be awesome and you are going to look worse than Dallas!!!! LOL! Hey, remeber that year the Spurs got beat by the Suns BENCH! YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSsssssssssssssssss

Suns in SIX!

[sa_butta]

I think the reason Horry got 2 games was because 1 for the initial contact on Nash then another game for the elbow thrown during the scuffle. While I dont like it I think all the suspensions are justified.

[Scumbag]

Stern eliminates Suns.

Good luck with the Jazz.

[T Park]

one game for Horry and zip for everyone else. What crap.


cool

next time theres a fight and players rush into it

just say "its a crap rule, don't folllow it"

[BeerIsGood!]

keep spewing your bullshit.


You're an ass who doesn't want to hold people accountable for their actions because you're nothing but a fuck up. You blame others for your mistakes in life and you keep making the same ones over and over because of it. I guarantee it.

[OldDirtMcGirt]

WTF? WHO CHOSE TO GO ON THE COURT? ANSWER THE QUESTION MOTHER FUCKER!!!!

Amare and Diaw. It's a stupid fucking rule, what's your point?

[GrandeDavid]

Yeah - Horry's fucking foul wasn't that bad.

This is bad news for Spurs fans though. Amare isn't what makes that team go round. Neither is Diaw. Its Nash. Nash can easily beat the Spurs on his own - he did it last night.

The chip that should have been on the Spurs shoulder after a loss is now squarly on the shoulder of the Suns. When you add in how poorly the Spurs have fared against shorthanded teams then I'm really not happy about this one bit.

Not good news AT ALL.

The Spurs have a little track record in overlooking short handed teams, but I think that's more in the regular season. I think tomorrow night's game is so pivotal to the Spurs as well, and considering how awful they have to know they played last night in the 4th quarter and the start of the game, they will come out fired up regardless.

But I agree that it creates a nasty chip on Phoenix's shoulders. Their fans are going to be loco!

[BeerIsGood!]

You Fuck Up. You Pay The Price. It's Called Justice.

[gtownspur]

Suck my nuts.

THat is all.

[Amarelooms]

WOAI just reported that it has not been announced by the NBA, but the AP is reporting 2 for Horry, 1 each Amare and Diaw

Haha just like I called it :elephant

[mardigan]

Amare and Diaw. It's a stupid fucking rule, what's your point?
Theres a lot of stupid rules, doesnt mean you dont have to abide by them

[CubanMustGo]

cool

next time theres a fight and players rush into it

just say "its a crap rule, don't folllow it"

Show me where one punch was thrown and maybe you would have a point.

If you want to be a "win at all costs" joker like some of the trolls that's your business. Spurs don't need to have the league/refs win games for them like some of our opponents.

[Kermit]

Amare and Diaw. It's a stupid fucking rule, what's your point?
it might be stupid but those retards should've known better.

[ducks]

Amare and Diaw. It's a stupid fucking rule, what's your point?
is it stupid that the speed limit is 65 on the highway
yes
but if if you go over it and a cop sees you
you still get a ticket

[dimsah]

I do think a lot of you are really undermining Horry's importance to this team.
He doesn't put up numbers like Stoudamire, but he affects a lot of what the Spurs do.

We have no big 3 pt shooter now except Matt Bonner, and I don't want him on the floor unless we're up 20 with 30 seconds to play.

[bigdog]

i would still much rather have vaughn in the game than beno.....i dont expect beno to play at all in this series.......so deactivate him....you can deactivate ANYONE up to an hour before tipoff.......i'm pretty sure Horry can be deactivated and suspended at the same time. if thats the case, deactivate Beno and Horry and activate Ely and White.

[Ginofan]

Okay. To all of you Spursfans that are pissed about the PHX suspensions, "the series is tainted" etc etc. Do you think that it would even it back up if we were to lose tomorrow? And is that what you want? Because I honestly can say that deep in my heart I will take a championship anyway I can get it. Yeah it sucks that both teams can't be competitve with their full teams or whatever but come on!

There are so many quirks to this league and game it's unreal. If you bitch about calls one game, you're practically guaranteed to get alot more called for you the next. And that has absolutely nothing to do with basketball THE GAME! If you talk about one player doing something shady or illegal, you're practically guaranteed to have him watched alot more closely the next game. Psh, if this is the reward we get for having to put up with that bullshit than I'm all for it.

[T Park]

It's a stupid fucking rule, what's your point?

God is that "cry me a river" i hear playing in the background..

[atxrocker]

It's Called Justice.


justice is frying a mass murderer, not suspending 2 key players from a team for some bullshit rule. get fucking real. you're playin yourself here.

[duncan228]

You give up on your team that easy?
You've got Nash. And home court. One game without your badly spoken powerhouse will cost you the series?

[BeerIsGood!]

Amare and Diaw. It's a stupid fucking rule, what's your point?

It doesn't matter if you think the rule is stupid, the rule is there because the NBA doesn't want the baseball bench clearing brawls. It's been there since Stoudemire was 14 years old and he knew it was there.

If you can't get my point by now - here it is again...


WHEN PEOPLE FUCK UP, THEY DESERVE TO PAY THE PRICE

[clambake]

Spurs Legacy 2007: How to win without winning. Our secret formula.

Get a player to perfect a standard of anklebreaking attempts to injure.
Get another player to coldcock the opposing MVP.
Sabotage the chances of opponents by preaching the rules of the NBA.

My, how the mighty have fallen.

[Scumbag]

Oh wait, it didn't happen? Give me a break.

See you next year.

[mardigan]

Those guys got themselves suspended, no one else to blame

[infinite styles]

This series is in no way over. Anybody remember the Spurs losing game 5 in 03 when Nowitzki was out with an injury. Who was the point guard back then, oh yeah Nash. I'm not relaxed one bit because of this. Spurs still have to come with their A game for every game, starting tomorrow night.

[FromWayDowntown]

I want the Spurs to win, but I'm not really down with this ruling -- and I don't think it assures the Spurs of anything. The Suns could very easily ram their version of small ball (ala the Milwaukee Bucks) up the Spurs asses in Game 5.

I understand the rule, but I think there was wiggle room there for the league to have taken no action against Stoudemire and Diaw while giving Horry a game or even a steep fine.

[T Park]

Okay. To all of you Spursfans that are pissed about the PHX suspensions, "the series is tainted" etc etc. Do you think that it would even it back up if we were to lose tomorrow? And is that what you want? Because I honestly can say that deep in my heart I will take a championship anyway I can get it. Yeah it sucks that both teams can't be competitve with their full teams or whatever but come on!

There are so many quirks to this league and game it's unreal. If you bitch about calls one game, you're practically guaranteed to get alot more called for you the next. And that has absolutely nothing to do with basketball THE GAME! If you talk about one player doing something shady or illegal, you're practically guaranteed to have him watched alot more closely the next game. Psh, if this is the reward we get for having to put up with that bullshit than I'm all for it.


Bravo Ginofan.

[Spurs Dynasty 21]

I really hope the Spurs win, but we all know a team in under manned that play MUCH better



Nash may have a 40+ pts game

[SpursWoman]

The suns are going to come out firing..im still predicting its going to be a great game.



I'm expecting no less. Spurs typically do crappy when an oppenent is missing key player(s) ... Suns will be super-motivated, and their home crowds should be rabid.

Not thrilled with the decision, regardless of the rules.

[atxrocker]

God is that "cry me a river" i hear playing in the background..


:lol imagining this board if decisions were made against the spurs suspending duncan and ginobili would be hilarious. stfu.

[OldDirtMcGirt]

it might be stupid but those retards should've known better.

Their player just got decked and they moved over and went back. Big fucking deal. I didn't support this bullshit in 1997 when it cost the Knicks and I sure as hell don't support it now. The rule is absolutley moronic and totally destroys the integrity of the game and its competitive spirit. Not to mentionally it seriously escalates things.

[Willinsa]

two asterisks!!!!

How many rings does your team have? Better yet how was it losing to an 8th seed.

[CubanMustGo]

Spurs Legacy 2007: How to win without winning. Our secret formula.

Get a player to perfect a standard of anklebreaking attempts to injure.
Get another player to coldcock the opposing MVP.
Sabotage the chances of opponents by preaching the rules of the NBA.

My, how the mighty have fallen.

Whereas the puny (that would be the Mavs) are at home crying about the teams that are still playing. Get over it.

Hey your "MVP" looked real good in that tie. Funny how he was the first "MVP" in 25 years to lose in the first round and have to get the award in a suit instead of his uniform at a game.

[Kermit]

justice is frying a mass murderer, not suspending 2 key players from a team for some bullshit rule. get fucking real. you're playin yourself here.
it's a bullshit rule that has repercussions for not following it. maybe phoenix should learn the rule and next time two of their top players won't be suspended.

[Scumbag]

You give up on your team that easy?
You've got Nash. And home court. One game without your badly spoken powerhouse will cost you the series?


Just like one game without Duncan would end you at this point. We all know whoever wins game 5 is taking the series.

[TampaDude]

My, how the mighty have fallen.

You mean, like the choking to the #8 seed Mavs??? :lmao

[Spider TX]

It's going to be great come the end of tomorrow night and come in here and read all the whining by you fans because even with Amare and Diaw out, the Suns still win by at least 10. I can already hear all the bad officiating complaints, and Suns get all the breaks. Gonna be awesome to watch the Spurs still lose because they still don't have equal talent to the Suns minus those 2 players.

[SpursFan0728]

justice is frying a mass murderer, not suspending 2 key players from a team for some bullshit rule. get fucking real. you're playin yourself here.

spurs didn'ts set the rule and suns KNEW about the rule
so they screw themself up
no1 else to blame except them
so shut the fuk up

[GrandeDavid]

SWEET! I can't wait for the Suns scrubs to beat the Spurs! This is going to be awesome and you are going to look worse than Dallas!!!! LOL! Hey, remeber that year the Spurs got beat by the Suns BENCH! YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSsssssssssssssssss

Suns in SIX!

No, I don't. Are you referring to the 2000 playoff series where Tim Duncan did not play due to a meniscus tear?

[ducks]

It's going to be great come the end of tomorrow night and come in here and read all the whining by you fans because even with Amare and Diaw out, the Suns still win by at least 10. I can already hear all the bad officiating complaints, and Suns get all the breaks. Gonna be awesome to watch the Spurs still lose because they still don't have equal talent to the Suns minus those 2 players.
not likely

[Kermit]

Their player just got decked and they moved over and went back. Big fucking deal. I didn't support this bullshit in 1997 when it cost the Knicks and I sure as hell don't support it now. The rule is absolutley moronic and totally destroys the integrity of the game and its competitive spirit. Not to mentionally it seriously escalates things.
yes, it's moronic. every team and its players know the repercussions of not following the moronic rule. i hardly feel sorry for amare and diaw.

[gtownspur]

You're so right.

Kurt Thomas= Tim Duncan.

[bigdog]

and I can already see this thread being locked because of its stupidity :fro

[RonMexico]

Spider, don't do this... let the Spurs fans be the egomaniacs who jinx their team.

[EYES ON THE PRIZE]

http://www.hfxnews.ca/photos/TheDailyNews/stories/Suns1.jpg

[samikeyp]

It's going to be great come the end of tomorrow night and come in here and read all the whining by you fans because even with Amare and Diaw out, the Suns still win by at least 10. I can already hear all the bad officiating complaints, and Suns get all the breaks. Gonna be awesome to watch the Spurs still lose because they still don't have equal talent to the Suns minus those 2 players.

and if the Spurs win this will be different from the "you only beat us because of the suspensions" whining how?

[TampaDude]

Okay. To all of you Spursfans that are pissed about the PHX suspensions, "the series is tainted" etc etc. Do you think that it would even it back up if we were to lose tomorrow? And is that what you want? Because I honestly can say that deep in my heart I will take a championship anyway I can get it. Yeah it sucks that both teams can't be competitve with their full teams or whatever but come on!

There are so many quirks to this league and game it's unreal. If you bitch about calls one game, you're practically guaranteed to get alot more called for you the next. And that has absolutely nothing to do with basketball THE GAME! If you talk about one player doing something shady or illegal, you're practically guaranteed to have him watched alot more closely the next game. Psh, if this is the reward we get for having to put up with that bullshit than I'm all for it.

Hey...I want the Spurs to win it all...I just don't look forward to all the "tainted series" bullshit the fans of other teams, especially Suns fans, would throw at us until the end of time.

[sunsbum]

You Fuck Up. You Pay The Price. It's Called Justice.

wow you are obnoxious.

[ducks]

I really hope the Spurs win, but we all know a team in under manned that play MUCH better



Nash may have a 40+ pts game
who is going to set the screens?

[clambake]

Whats that smell?

Oh, I know, it's tainted victory.

[T Park]

Whats luagh?

[duncan228]

Just like one game without Duncan would end you at this point. We all know whoever wins game 5 is taking the series.

Agreed, we lose Duncan we go nowhere.
And yes, I agree that game 5 will likely determine the series.

But, I don't think the Suns are out of it, far from it. Nash is brilliant, the best PG in the league. I don't for a minute under estimate him or the rest of your team.
Why are you? Is Amare that critical that you can't win a must win-at home- without him?

[Dre_7]

You know that if Stern had his choice hed go for the Suns/ratings. This has NOTHING to do with Stern wanting one team or another to win it. Its just Stern being his strict self and following the rule to the letter. Is it right? I dunno. I dont agree with the suspensions, but according the the rule, its a suspension. Its kinda a dumb rule (ie: the "tuck rule"). Maybe this will help bring some change to the rulebook.

[ForeignFan]

Law is not justice, those are quite different concepts, e.g., you can drive above speed limit at night when there is no one on the highway and get fined.

But let us move on to the next game : Spurs really have to win it ! What will be PHX's lineup ?

[aaronstampler]

I'm ambivalent about the whole thing. I mean you can go around and around with it forever.

A) I don't agree with the Amare/Diaw suspensions. I don't want to win this way.
1. But a rule is a rule.

B) I'm incredibly disappointed in Horry for doing what he did.
1. But he only did it because of a no-call at the other end.

C) The Amare/Diaw thing wouldn't have happened if the Horry thing didn't happen.
1. The Horry thing wouldn't happen if the refs just called a decent game.
2. Even despite the refs we could've won if Pop coached a smarter game
3. Or if the big three played worth a shit in the final period, in spite of Pop.

This whole series has me in a bad mood. I'm not happy with any aspect of it. I'm glad Brent Barry is playing well and contributing for us, but I wish every game wouldn't come down to the refs/Stern. I wish Phx's players and coaches wouldn't whine about calls after every loss. It's one thing for fans to do so, but they should be above it. This whole series has been irreversibly tainted now and no matter what happens this won't be a great, memorable playoffs for us.

[UV Ray]

WTF are you talking about chode?
Enjoy your "championship", right up there with Mark McGwire's home run record.

[Spider TX]

I do this because it will be great to look so brilliant tomorrow night when the Suns do win. Of course the Spurs fans will say the predicted reactions, but will have nothing to say come tomorrow night.

[TampaDude]

What is the Vegas line on Game 5 now after the suspensions???

[Ginofan]

:lol imagining this board if decisions were made against the spurs suspending duncan and ginobili would be hilarious. stfu.
Oh, it would be hilarious? So it's unjust and SO unfair for the Suns but if the situation were reversed it would be funny and you wouldn't give two shits. Just label yourself a hater and take off that disguise of rallying for fairness in the NBA.

[Kobulingam]

Damn Horry is the clutchest player to have every played in NBA.

I think Stu Jackson realized that Game 4 was horribly officiated in Suns favour, so he didn't make a big fuss about suspending the Suns. The NBA gods are trying to be fair.

[still.focused]

Hey i figured this board didnt need ANOTHER thread, so ill just ask
Anybody got vid or a gif of the Elson dunk and TD and Bruce comin off the bench?
Thanks

[samikeyp]

Personally I am not counting on anything right now. Spurs could still lose game 5.

[dimsah]

Hey. Welcome to the board!!

You just had to find a Spurs message board to vent your frustrations, and Spurstalk is the unfortunate landing pad for your spaceship.

[CubanMustGo]

Whats that smell?

Oh, I know, it's tainted victory.

Hell, after the Mav playoff "performance" Mav Fan wouldn't know victory if it hit them in Cuban's smirking face. Nice try.

[JamStone]

"And starting at center FOR YOUR Phoenix Suns, at 6-foot-7 out of Nebraska, number 52, ERICCCCCC PIATKOWSKIIIIIIIIIII!!!!!!"

[Kermit]

Whats that smell?

Oh, I know, it's tainted victory.
no, it's the playoffs. isn't your team still in it? no?

[tony09manu]

We haven't even won Game 5 or Game 6 yet.

Don't give up on your team.

[OldDirtMcGirt]

Law is not justice, those are quite different concepts, e.g., you can drive above speed limit at night when there is no one on the highway and get fined.

But let us move on to the next game : Spurs really have to win it ! What will be PHX's lineup ?

Totally agree with your analogy.

As for the lineup, I'd imagine that it would be Nash-Bell-James Jones-Marion-Thomas. The guy who will should be get some minutes will be Pat Burke off the Bench.

The X Factor for us would be Jalen Rose, too see if he can step it up.

[clambake]

Spurs hit a home run with a corked bat. How impressive!

[spurschick]

If I remember correctly, the Suns did okay without Amare last season. And Diaw hasn't been much of a factor. I wouldn't throw in the towel if I were a Suns fan.

[mardigan]

Enjoy your "championship", right up there with Mark McGwire's home run record.
:lol I cant believe Suns fans act like this is the SPurs fault

[GrandeDavid]

Enjoy your "championship", right up there with Mark McGwire's home run record.

I wouldn't count the Suns out just yet! Even if the Spurs do win tomorrow night, I don't expect Phoenix to lay down in Game 6. Are you kidding me? :lol

[1SUNSFAN]

You're an ass who doesn't want to hold people accountable for their actions because you're nothing but a fuck up. You blame others for your mistakes in life and you keep making the same ones over and over because of it. I guarantee it.

That's so true... just like I blame your parents for the mistake of having you! :lol

[CubanMustGo]

Spurs hit a home run with a corked bat. How impressive!

Mavs struck out looking against the worst team in the playoffs. How impressive!

[mullet]

shouldve stayed on the the bench PERIOD

[The_Worlds_finest]

Mav fan takes a break from playing the "real nba playoffs" on his xbox to make a comment about the pretend league :spin

[Ginofan]

Hey...I want the Spurs to win it all...I just don't look forward to all the "tainted series" bullshit the fans of other teams, especially Suns fans, would throw at us until the end of time.

I can understand that, but you know I think they would only throw that at us IF we won the whole shabang. And frankly, we're not guaranteed that. And even IF we did win the whole thing the reflection of that 4th trophy would drown out any crying Suns fans did.

[FromWayDowntown]

In looking at the Suns' options for Game 5, it would seem to me that D'Antoni's best option is to go small -- really, really small. Frankly, teams that can go small like that have given the Spurs fits. Milwaukee did it twice this year with tremendous success. I can't see that D'Antoni will even try to match size-for-size. Go small, keep trying to push the ball, take every shot that you get and see what happens.

I'm not sold on the idea that Game 5 will somehow be a walkover for the Spurs.

[Scumbag]

Oh now act like 90% of you were not screaming for Amare and Diaw to be suspended. Look at the forum names. You all looked like a bunch of bitches that were relying on this suspension.

Like I said, you lose Duncan, you go nowhere. We lose Amare AND Diaw (his only replacement on the bench), we go nowhere. James Jones is starting.

So like I said, good luck in the WCF.

[4-2GSWINS]

in a city that has no other pro teams to root for, you can bet that they will take a win over a better team regardless of it being tainted or not..

sad, but true.

[TampaDude]

This whole series has me in a bad mood. I'm not happy with any aspect of it. I'm glad Brent Barry is playing well and contributing for us, but I wish every game wouldn't come down to the refs/Stern. I wish Phx's players and coaches wouldn't whine about calls after every loss. It's one thing for fans to do so, but they should be above it. This whole series has been irreversibly tainted now and no matter what happens this won't be a great, memorable playoffs for us.

Ditto...I'm pissed off about the whole thing...I was so pumped for the Spurs after Game 3, and now this...even if the Spurs win the series (and they almost surely will now), there will always be that shadow over the victory...

[The_Worlds_finest]

Yes yes just as it is the law for busting stupid crooks its the FO fault for laying the law down...If Spurs win game 5 consider Horry the greatest role player of all time...

[anonymous coward]

1999*- seasson shortened
2003*- dirk's injury & the sorry ass nets
2005- legit
now amare & diaw suspended

can you say lucky bastards?

[Scumbag]

We haven't even won Game 5 or Game 6 yet.

Don't give up on your team.


Yeah, and the Cav's CAN win their series WITHOUT Lebron. But we all know the chances of that happening.


A lot of things COULD happen, but we all know the truth.

[clambake]

San Antonio Spurs 2007 will be inducted into the Asterisk Hall of Fame.

Congratulations.

[Dingle Barry]

Thanks dude.

[noles1983]

its not over, way to jump off the bandwagon lmfao..

[still.focused]

*raises hand*
Videooooooooooooooooooooo

[mavsfan1000]

Whoever wins game 5 wins the series. No way the suns win without Amare and Diaw.

[King]

Funny, the two-time MVP is still going to be out there. As is Marion. And Bell. And Barbosa. And a Spurs team that plays crappy against teams missing players.

This is far from over.

[Scumbag]

Suck my nuts.

THat is all.


You are an intelligent man. A true representation of the type of fans that support this team.

[AZSportsFan]

I understand the giddiness of some of the fans here, but the problem is that the human side of sports was completely ignored in this case. Did Duncan, when he clearly came of the bench, with Bowen behind him, think to himself "Oh, let's see, no altercation here, let me go on the court to see if I can help my teammate"? Of course not, if you think so you are just deluding yourself. So calling Amare and Diaw stupid, ignorant, etc. is really ignoring the fact that the same thing happened on the other bench 90 minutes earlier. And for the exact same reason. The fact that Elson and Jones didn't get into a shoving match (which is a good thing) saved the Spurs from the same predicament the Suns are in.... Just my two cents. Call it fate, fortune, or what have you. Amare wasn't looking to go after Horry, just as Duncan wasn't looking to go after Jones. But it is done with.

[~Sweetmelody~]

Honestly, I think this is fuel for the Suns to play with more intensity.
I wouldn't be suprised if we lost the next game.
I thought Horry would get 1 game but 2? Yikes!

[Kermit]

San Antonio Spurs 2007 will be inducted into the Asterisk Hall of Fame.

Congratulations.
you guys aren't to far behind...

2007 MVP - Dirk Nowitzki ***** got swept in the first round by an 8 seed

[mardigan]

San Antonio Spurs 2007 will be inducted into the Asterisk Hall of Fame.

Congratulations.
Thats all you got? Seriously dude, either bring some better shit or shut the fuck up

[1SUNSFAN]

No, I don't. Are you referring to the 2000 playoff series where Tim Duncan did not play due to a meniscus tear?.

No DUMB SHIT... it is happening tomorrow night! Suns bench is going to topple the near full strength Spurs! This is going to be great! :clap

[TampaDude]

I can understand that, but you know I think they would only throw that at us IF we won the whole shabang. And frankly, we're not guaranteed that. And even IF we did win the whole thing the reflection of that 4th trophy would drown out any crying Suns fans did.

Yeah...that's why I said would, not will...even if the Spurs win this series, they still have to get by the Jazz and then the winner of the East (probably the Pistons).