The Bench

[Kori Ellis]

Big Props to Devin and Beno tonight with 16 points a piece.

I'd like to see the +/- on this game. It's gotta be big for Beno.

[exstatic]

Devin has to be one of the top 5 raw athletes in the NBA. He has one of the strongest finishes in the open court of anyone. He was bashed and bumped a couple of times at full speed on the break, and still had the body control to finish. I really only saw them stop him once from attacking the hoop. It was in the half court, and they basicly knocked him down, which is exactly what he did with both FTs. Nice game, Dev.

[Kori Ellis]

They each had 16 points in 19 minutes. Great efficiency. And Beno added 4 assists, while Devin grabbed 4 boards along with 2 assists and a steal. It's awesome to see them developing. I know it's just one game, but we saw glimpses of great things from Beno today. *he just needs to stay healthy*

[SequSpur]

I called draft Devin in the draft and was banned by the posse. :wink

[boutons]

Devin can be running down court at full speed and still hit the 5th gear as he heads to the basket. ain't nobody gonna get in front of him

[Solid D]

An argument can be made that Devin has been the best Spur at running the floor in transition this season. He's making a habit of hustling and running the wing.

[mattyc]

Every time I looked at the play-by-play it was Devin Brown made lay-up or Devin Brown made dunk.

I love it. :drunk

[ducks]

the alley oop dunk to him from barry got him going

I thought it might

[timvp]

Devin Brown is the truth. Slow start to the season as he figured out his role. Now he's coming in aggressive and making things happen.

The way he absolutely attacks the basket on the break is a thing of beauty. He has no regards for anything other than scoring.

What were you saying about him, T Park? I think you owe Devin Brown an apology.

:smokin

[SequSpur]

Devin can play ball.

Dude was the best in the city at West Campus
Dude was the best in the Southland Conference at UTSA
Dude was the best in the USBL
Dude willl be a star in the NBA.

Go Coogs.

[Manu20]

Nice to see Devin breakout in the game. I hope he continues to improve and played like he did tonight.

[Kori Ellis]

He also did a good job on D against Dirk late in the game.

Devin's problem this season will continue to be minutes. There are game when he will play less than five. And game like tonight when he gets nearly 20. He has to be able to keep a solid mindset to play the same no matter what minutes he gets. Eventually his time to shine will come.

[timvp]

He also did a good job on D against Dirk late in the game.

Oh yeah, forgot about that. Devin OWNED Dirk in the fourth quarter. I don't think Dirk hit more than one basket on him.

Devin may only be like 6-foot-4, but he can somehow guard the long threes.

[Kori Ellis]

Speaking of Devin ...

Devin's dad has asked me to help him organize some sort of Devin Brown Fan Club for support to keep Devin in a Spurs uniform. Any suggestions on it would be appreciated.

[boutons]

47 pts from Spurs bench

[exstatic]

Kori, Devin wants to stay, doesn't he? If he keeps this up, I think Pop rewards him with a Bowenesque contract for 3 years.

[TheWriter]

Speaking of Devin ...

Devin's dad has asked me to help him organize some sort of Devin Brown Fan Club for support to keep Devin in a Spurs uniform. Any suggestions on it would be appreciated.


DevinBrown.com or DevinBrown.net

Start a website for him.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Speaking of attacking the rim, it blows my mind that in a league with arguably 1-2 shot blockers outside of Tim, why we don't continuously attack the rim at will.

[exstatic]

Speaking of attacking the rim, it blows my mind that in a league with arguably 1-2 shot blockers outside of Tim, why we don't continuously attack the rim at will.

See: Ginobili, Manu; Parker, Tony. Barry also attacks, but usually to kick it out to a shooter unless he's on the break.

[ShoogarBear]

The Spurs started out hitting some jumpers, then, like with all teams that do that, they fell in love with the jumpers until the Mavs came back. Then they started being more agressive again.

However, the ball movement was excellent all game, even when they hit their dry spells. That's a huge difference between this team and previous ones.

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

***Looks at sig***

[boutons]

"the ball movement was excellent all game"

no, it was bad in the 3rd, didn't score, and let Mavs back into the game.

[Nikos]

As an aside, did you guys notice Brown was the first SUB in the second half for Manu and NOT Brent Barry. Does it mean much? Or did Pop just on the spot feel Devin would matchup best since he can guard Dirk and the taller Mav 3's? Or was Barry just not up to par?

[timvp]

For the Spurs to be as good as they can be, they need Rose and Brown to supply the aggressiveness off the bench. Both of those players aren't afraid to go strong to the basket.



P.S.


Speaking of attacking the rim, it blows my mind that in a league with arguably 1-2 shot blockers outside of Tim, why we don't continuously attack the rim at will.

That's the Spurs' gameplan and that's what they do when they're playing well. I don't know of another team that attacks the rim as much as the Spurs.

[timvp]

As an aside, did you guys notice Brown was the first SUB in the second half for Manu and NOT Brent Barry. Does it mean much? Or did Pop just on the spot feel Devin would matchup best since he can guard Dirk and the taller Mav 3's? Or was Barry just not up to par?

Pop probably liked the Brown vs. Dirk matchup.

In the fourth quarter, Brown held Dirk to 0-6 shooting.

[T Park]

1 game and I owe the guy an apology??

If he brings it tommarow night i will officially apologize.

He needs to bring consistency.

But I liked what I saw out of Devin.


His outside shot though has regressed.


Great question Aggie,

we do not attack the rim enough, Ginobili Brown Barry Duncan Parker Udrih and others should drive to the rim damn near every time.

[timvp]

T Park, didn't you watch the Jazz game.

He's done been bringing it.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

That's the Spurs' gameplan and that's what they do when they're playing well. I don't know of another team that attacks the rim as much as the Spurs.

We sure weren't running our gameplan in the third. Ugh.

[T Park]

once again.


Brings it tommarow, the apology will be made.

salute

[whottt]

***Looks at sig***




I've been watching it...he's still got a shot at 10 points per game...especially if he keeps playing like this...I figured it out last night that he needs to avg 11 PPG for the rest of the season to do it...

But no way in hell does he pull off 5 boards a game.

[timvp]

Whottt needs to update his sig.

BTW, Brown was the Spurs' second leading rebounder in preseason.

Get with the times.

[whottt]

Whottt needs to update his sig.

BTW, Brown was the Spurs' second leading rebounder in preseason.

Get with the times.


LOL you gotta be fucking kidding me...preseason?

No way does 5 board per game happen for Devin and if it does you can change my title to AJ's bitch...for a week or so.

[Kori Ellis]

He needs to bring consistency.

He's never going to put the numbers up like he did tonight consistently because he won't get consistent minutes with the depth on this team.

He has only had one or two bad shooting games this season. If somehow they can give him 15+mpg this season that would be great. But it seems nearly impossible.

And exstatic, yes I'm sure he wants to stay here. But if another team can promise him playing time this summer, I couldn't be mad at him for considering leaving.

[T Park]

loose the hate WHott,

I have :)

It is kinda cool to see a local boy done good.

His jump shot though needs to get a little better, its not encouraging to have seen it regress a little.

[whottt]

He's never going to put the numbers up like he did tonight consistently because he won't get consistent minutes with the depth on this team.


Good point..but if he continues to play like this he's going to be getting more consistent Popdamn minutes.

[timvp]

LOL you gotta be fucking kidding me...preseason?

No way does 5 board per game happen for Devin and if it does you can change my title to AJ's bitch...for a week or so.

Man, just stop talking to me. First of all, you lost that AJ bet and you never were a man about it and let me change your title. Second of all, a week? Way to go out on a limb there buddy.

[T Park]

Kori you misunderstood me.

I meant bring consistency as in,

same good shooting, same agressiveness to the hole.


I agree its tough with the minutes hes gotten, but his minutes last post season were inconsistent and he still brought it like tonight.

Thats all Im askin.

[whottt]

loose the hate WHott,

I have :)

It is kinda cool to see a local boy done good.

His jump shot though needs to get a little better, its not encouraging to have seen it regress a little.

Um, I have never hated Devin, I have always liked him. And if TimVP will remember...I had his back on the start Devin Brown over Bowen movement this past summer. Remember TimVP?

I just think Blaze got a bit carried away with his sig and since he was asking for it to be marked down I figured I would put my sig to use to hold him accountable.

If he turns out to be right he'll thank me for it. I wish we kept better track of older threads...People that are right as often as myself always like to dig up old threads....mainly for Chumpslapping.

I have not been negative about this team at all this year...I picked 65+ wins..your sig captures my feelings about this team.

I do not have the same attitude about this team I had about last years team...I love this team...

[myhc]

How long is Devin signed for?

[whottt]

Man, just stop talking to me. First of all, you lost that AJ bet and you never were a man about it and let me change your title. Second of all, a week? Way to go out on a limb there buddy.


How the hell did I keep you from changing my title? LMAO I have no freaking control over it...I told you to do it if you truly thought you had won that bet, I am pretty sure it's in the Whottt's this thread in the classics. But I don't think you ever provided proof..you provided a news article with no details that just said they talked...it said nothing else.

And I told you today...that either you lost that bet or else AJ stiffed the Spurs...take your pick. Either way I win with the way it turned out. So change the title if you feel you must.

And even if what you say is true...it'd be kinda hard for me to get out of Devin averaging 10 and 5...I mean how the hell do you expect me to do that?

[T Park]

How long is Devin signed for?


through the end of this season.

He should be easily resigned to a 4 year 8 million dollar deal.

Hopefully him and his agent dont go Stephen Jackson on the Spurs.

[whottt]

I didn't even pick the title I got now, so when the hell did I ever have any say on my title?

[TheWriter]

The Spurs bench is season is averaging 30 points a game!

[myhc]

Question people: Can a lineup of:

C-Tony Massenburg
PF-Malik Rose/Robert Horry
SF-Devin Brown
SG-Brent Barry
PG-Beno

beat Golden State or Chicago?

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

If he turns out to be right he'll thank me for it. I wish we kept better track of older threads...People that are right as often as myself always like to dig up old threads....mainly for Chumpslapping.

Um, that's kind of why I had a Battle Blog posted before the season started predicting it.

[TheWriter]

Question people: Can a lineup of:

C-Tony Massenburg
PF-Malik Rose/Robert Horry
SF-Devin Brown
SG-Brent Barry
PG-Beno

beat Golden State or Chicago?

Yep.

[whottt]

Um, that's kind of why I had a Battle Blog posted before the season started predicting it.

Didn't catch the blog but I did notice your sig calling out people to mark it down and put it in their favorites...so I did. If your prediction comes true it can only mean good things for the Spurs and my sig will be even more scoreboard..If it doesn't happen...well you did ask for people to mark it down. Hey, at least I noticed it. :fro

He's alive to score 10 a game, and it's looking more possible than it did a week ago, when he was buried on the bench, but I just don't see those rebounds happening without him being a starter, under any circumstances.

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

Just for you, I added a new part to the sig.

The Whottt Countdown Tracker.

[whottt]

Thanks, and for the record...Devin needs to score 11.14 PPG from this point on to avg 10 a game...hmmm, seems easily doable given his performance tonight....

But in boards he has to average nearly 6 a game from this point on...tough to do even as a starter...

For what it's worth, I hope he does get moved into the starting lineup, it's what I wanted to be done with him this summer, to save Bruce for the post season...but I don't see it happening if he is the best scoring spark off the bench.

[timvp]

I like how Bruce Bowen is playing lately. He took that BS 10-footer out of his repitoire and isn't doing too many of those pointless drives. He's sticking to corner threes and running the fast breaks.

Props to Bruce.

[Dalamar_the Dark]

Bowen's not doing those BS stuff because he doesnt have to now with this team. Last season, besides Manu who else could you rely on to score? Malik was off all season, Jason Hart wasnt a scorer though he brought heart, Devin was still young and too inconsistent and Kevin Willis was only going to help for some mins on some nights.

This year we have 3 legit 20 point scorers in the starting lineup so Bowen and Rasho dont need to do anything major but contribute the odd basket here and there and play solid defense.

We have Barry coming off who can light it up on some nights. If not Rose seems to be back, Devin can score in bunches like he did against the Lakers, Beno has been a surprise (Solid field % for rookie). There you have your eight man rotation.

If anything I want Beno to show more aggression. To lead more and not be afraid to turn the ball over by trying a pass here and there. That's how Manu learnt. I think Pop will go bonkers if he turned the ball over a little more but think it will help him (and the team) in the long run.

[timvp]

Welcome to the forum, Dalamar_the Dark. Nice post.


If anything I want Beno to show more aggression. To lead more and not be afraid to turn the ball over by trying a pass here and there.

I agree. The more aggressive he is, the better he plays. When he's not aggressive, the defense can swallow him up.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

I like how Bruce Bowen is playing lately. He took that BS 10-footer out of his repitoire and isn't doing too many of those pointless drives. He's sticking to corner threes and running the fast breaks.

Props to Bruce.

Agreed.

[Dalamar_the Dark]

For what it's worth, I hope he does get moved into the starting lineup, it's what I wanted to be done with him this summer, to save Bruce for the post season...but I don't see it happening if he is the best scoring spark off the bench.

Dont think he is of starter material yet. In terms of defensive schemes, he tends to not be able to focus 100% of the time (ok ok Im asking too much). But one good game against Dirk doesnt mean he can take over Bruce and guard Kobe, T-Mac, Ray Allen, Stojakovic etc... he has to prove that he can guard all of them and not just have one good quarter.

At the moment I still like him off the bench cause he brings energy can change the pace of the game. And most importantly, at the moment, our first unit dont need so many scorers. I rather like the balance of our first unit this season. 2 penetrators (Park and Manu) Dominant post (Timmy) defensive stopper (Bruce) and solid defensive post presence (Rasho). Now thats what you call balance. And 3 of them can hit the trey.

[violentkitten]

"dalamar the dark"? are you some kind of porn star/wrestler?

[jalbre6]

On the Devin Brown question:

How common is it for guys like him to eind up on his hometown team? You know, winding up in the same NBA town that he went to HS and played collegiately in?

I've been trying to think of others, but am drawing a blank. BTW, the UPN-21 play-by-play guys in Dallas thought he was a stud.

[whottt]

I think it's pretty rare...it's not that rare for guys to play for a team in their home state...but to play for a team in the city they grew up? I can't think of it happening that often. Probably happens with the NY and LA teams more than the others.

A big reason this happened with Devin is because he wanted to play in SA, he had other offers IIRC.

[CosmicCowboy]

Devin's dad has asked me to help him organize some sort of Devin Brown Fan Club for support to keep Devin in a Spurs uniform. Any suggestions on it would be appreciated.

If Devin will be willing to play for a partial MLE contract I am sure that the Spurs will be delighted to keep him...If he/they want more than that when it gets down to nut cutting time we will all have to get used to rooting for Devin in a different uniform...

[Useruser666]

Allen Iverson - Philly EDIT: I am WRONG!!! :lol

Stephon Marbury - NY

[SPARKY]

I thought Iverson grew up in Virginia?

[Kori Ellis]

Iverson did grow up in Virginia.

But a good example is Lorenzen Wright. He was born in Memphis. Went to H.S. in Memphis. Went to college at Memphis. And plays for the Memphis Grizzlies.

That's even better than Devin because Devin was born in Salt Lake City.

[Kori Ellis]

Another good one is Juan Dixon.

Born in Baltimore, MD. HS - Baltimore. College - Maryland. NBA - Wizards.

[Useruser666]

Another good one is Juan Dixon.

Born in Baltimore, MD. HS - Baltimore. College - Maryland. NBA - Wizards.

Poor guy. :lol