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CosmicCowboy

06-13-2007, 02:45 PM

CubanMustGo

06-13-2007, 02:46 PM

No to Nads. We don't need another old guy that has no offensive game.

T Park

06-13-2007, 02:47 PM

Najera is a total stiff and I don't want him anywhere NEAR this team.

Devin brown would replace Brent Barry very easily.

Id like Pietrus more than Barnes honestly.

MajorMike

06-13-2007, 02:48 PM

I think Mason would be a great fit. He is unbelievably athletic, long, and very good defensively (learned defense from Sutton). He was born and raised in Waxahachie. And I don't think he will be very expensive at all.

Just think, if we get him, we will have 2 former Sonics who were Slam Dunk Champs.

MoSpur

06-13-2007, 02:49 PM

Pietrus.

Mr. Body

06-13-2007, 02:51 PM

The problem with Mason is he cannot shoot a lick.

CosmicCowboy

06-13-2007, 02:51 PM

Najera is a total stiff and I don't want him anywhere NEAR this team.

Devin brown would replace Brent Barry very easily.

Id like Pietrus more than Barnes honestly.

I like Devin too but so does New Orleans. They could easily outbid us although Devin would probably like to be back in SA I doubt he would give up the $$$'s to come back.

MajorMike

06-13-2007, 02:51 PM

What would you guys think about Eduardo Najera? It would take MLE type money but he is definitely a long 3/4 hard nose defender in the Spurs mold. He doesn't have Bruces 3 point range and at 31 probably won't ever get it but he sure brings a lot of energy when he hits the floor.

No.

No.

No.

and No.

Thuguardo is a cancer and a dipshit. I still remember him fouling out of Game 1 WCF in 2003 in less than 15 mins.

He does not DESERVE to be a Spur.

MajorMike

06-13-2007, 03:00 PM

The problem with Mason is he cannot shoot a lick.

That's not true at all. He shot 46% this year, right in with Prince, Miller, Jefferson, Sasha, Lewis, Nocioni and Magette.

He averaged 14/5 last year playing 3rd fiddle to Paul and West.

If you are referring to the fact he doesn't shoot 3s, that would be correct. In 6 years pro, he has shot only 251. Last year, in 75 games, he shot 0. The combined 2 years prior, he shot 14. He is a finisher and a cutter, not a 3-point shooter.

Mr. Body

06-13-2007, 03:03 PM

Literally, Mason does not shoot jump shots. Look at his shooting charts - everything he ever shoots is a layup or dunk.

td4mvp21

06-13-2007, 03:05 PM

T Park

06-13-2007, 03:06 PM

Pietrus or Nocioni though. They would be great fits here. I don't think they are free agents

They are both FAs.

Pavlovic IMO would be fantastic.

He would be a great fit on this team.

Warlord23

06-13-2007, 03:11 PM

I like Pavlovic and Barnes out of that list. Wallace/Lewis are going to be too much money, but I wouldn't take Lewis anyway. I really want Pietrus or Nocioni though. They would be great fits here. I don't think they are free agents.

Agreed. But some dumbass GM is going to throw a lot of money at Barnes after his playoff showing, so I wouldn't be too hopeful. Pavlovic's stock also seems to be on the rise as he can shoot the 3 and drive the ball.

If they can swing a Nocioni S-&-T without losing any major pieces, that'd be the perfect offseason

Real Tomato Ketchup

06-13-2007, 03:15 PM

Literally, Mason does not shoot jump shots. Look at his shooting charts - everything he ever shoots is a layup or dunk.

Well those are pretty high % shots so............

T Park

06-13-2007, 03:15 PM

But some dumbass GM is going to throw a lot of money at Barnes after his playoff showing, so I wouldn't be too hopeful

I've been saying that since the playoff run for the Warriors started.

Someone like Orlando, or Memphis is gonna give him a shit load of cash.

MoSpur

06-13-2007, 03:16 PM

The Warriors are loaded at the forward position so we'll see what happens with Pietrus.

CubanMustGo

06-13-2007, 03:17 PM

Pavs will get a big bump too ... prolly out of Spurs salary-cap challenged range.

td4mvp21

06-13-2007, 03:19 PM

They are both FAs.

Pavlovic IMO would be fantastic.

He would be a great fit on this team.

All the better, then. I actually think Nocioni would be better just because he has more size for his position, that would give him a defensive/offensive advantage against a lot of teams. Pavlovic can definitely shoot and drive, and he's an OK defender. I really hope the Spurs go after them, but who know's what the management will do, after all they signed Elson, Vaughn, and Butler in last year's offseason.

AFBlue

06-13-2007, 03:24 PM

Pavs will get a big bump too ... prolly out of Spurs salary-cap challenged range.

I don't know if Pavlovic will get more than the mid-level. That goes for Pietrus and a bunch of others too. There are actually very few teams with space under the cap enough to make legitimate (eight-figure) moves.

The ones I predict will get more than mid-level...

Chauncey Billups
Rashard Lewis
Vince Carter
Gerald Wallace

And maybe Mo Williams and Andres Nocioni...

AFBlue

06-13-2007, 03:26 PM

As a general comment on this next off-season and the MLE that the Spurs have to spend, I'd say that it will be paced by one FA....

Luis Scola. If the Spurs can work out a contract with Luis, it significantly impacts the amount of money that can be spent on other prospective FAs. If his rights are traded, then who the Spurs go after will largely be determined by what they received in return for Scola's rights.

Bottom Line: Summer 07 is about one man...Luis Scola

Atl Spur

06-13-2007, 03:37 PM

Sasha needs to be a spur! PERIOD! 6'8 versitile just needs to be coached up. Who better to do it than Pop? He already has received some insight from the pupile, now learn from the master! Get Sasha this offseason!

Atl Spur

06-13-2007, 03:39 PM

Pupil; sorry!

The Truth #6

06-13-2007, 03:44 PM

The Warriors are loaded at the forward position so we'll see what happens with Pietrus.

I think Nellie likes being loaded at the forward position.

Mr. Body

06-13-2007, 04:18 PM

I think Nellie likes being loaded at the forward position.

I really didn't need to know that.

:lol

ChumpDumper

06-13-2007, 04:18 PM

He likes being loaded in any position.

Mr.Bottomtooth

06-13-2007, 04:20 PM

Pietrus.

AFBlue

06-13-2007, 04:23 PM

Pietrus.

I don't get the Pietrus thing...at least not now anyway. Finley/Bowen/Barry are still on this team, and James White brings a similar skill set (athleticism & defense) for what would likely be 1/3 or 1/4 of the cost.

If he takes the one-year tender and becomes a legit FA next year, I could definitely see the Spurs going after him then, but for this Summer I'm not sure that they have the $$$, the roster space, or the need...

Ya Vez

06-13-2007, 04:24 PM

Steve Blake PG - Nuggets..

Darkwaters

06-13-2007, 04:33 PM

Literally, Mason does not shoot jump shots. Look at his shooting charts - everything he ever shoots is a layup or dunk.

It's true. I'm a Hornets season ticket holder and I speak the truth: Desmond Mason is where offensive possessions go to die. That being said, he can still play a quality role and contribute to this team. But do not try and sell him as a viable offensive force.

Don Quixote

06-13-2007, 04:39 PM

Already speculating about who we need to go out and get! And we haven't even put the finishing touches on our sweep yet. Let's wait a few weeks, enjoy the title, watch the fans of the teams cry and entertain us, and then maybe address the wide gaping holes on our team.

Ah screw it ... if we can't enjoy a title, then what's the point?

Don Quixote

06-13-2007, 04:42 PM

It's true. I'm a Hornets season ticket holder and I speak the truth: Desmond Mason is where offensive possessions go to die. That being said, he can still play a quality role and contribute to this team. But do not try and sell him as a viable offensive force.

We hope you enjoyed the Hornets the past 2 years. I'm looking forward to them coming back home to New Orleans next year, if only to watch the Spurs put more spankings on them when they come to town.

Hope OKC gets the Sonics or somebody ... it's a nice city.

texasqb2

06-13-2007, 04:48 PM

you guys saying Devin Brown will be back are clueless....haven't you learned anything from SJax..........I'd target Nocioni first then Pietrus, but we may go back-up PG as top priority

SScarrJ

06-13-2007, 04:58 PM

I'm not to sure on the numbers but why bring in guys like Pietrus and Pavlovic and jeopardize the cap room in 08? I'd rather go to war with this team + a few draft picks we get.

Slinkyman

06-13-2007, 05:04 PM

Nocioni and Pietrus are long shots, Matt Barnes and James Posey are more realistic and cheaper.

edit: i just thought of another reason i like Barnes.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=kAKOMYNBbTg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kAKOMYNBbTg)

yavozerb

06-13-2007, 05:28 PM

James Posey sucks!!!No way he gets paid by the spurs next year..

Darkwaters

06-13-2007, 06:10 PM

We hope you enjoyed the Hornets the past 2 years. I'm looking forward to them coming back home to New Orleans next year, if only to watch the Spurs put more spankings on them when they come to town.

Hope OKC gets the Sonics or somebody ... it's a nice city.

Most people in New Orleans wouldn't be caught dead saying that. I was a very adament fan of the team but we got trolled endlessly for 2 straight years by countless self-righteous New Orleans fans that claimed we knew nothing of the NBA. Silly shit. Although, I'm sure it was a two way street. That being said, I am FROM San Antonio and will always be a Spurs fan before all else. And my brief exile to Oklahoma City will probably end soon and allow me to return to my home state (if not town as well).

Regardless, I think the assertion that Luis Scola will decide this offseason is absolutely correct. If they feel confident he will come over this offseason I expect they will draft a SF to groom. If he is going to be traded they will have a good idea for what (Nocioni) and will adjust accordingly.

Darkwaters

06-13-2007, 06:12 PM

edit: i just thought of another reason i like Barnes.

Barnes? Dirty player through and through. Remember this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F256m3T-qKE

Slinkyman

06-13-2007, 06:15 PM

Barnes? Dirty player through and through. Remember this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F256m3T-qKE

Barnes is dirty which is why he belongs on the spurs.

Marcus Bryant

06-13-2007, 06:18 PM

Posey would be a shrewd pickup. He's not that old (30) and his skills are pretty much what you would want out of a 3 in the Spurs' system (plays solid perimeter defense, runs the floor, solid from behind the arc, etc). In addition, he has the ability to guard perimeter oriented 4s (read: Nowitzki) so that would take care of the one glaring hole in the structure of this Spurs team. Posey's at the age where teams would be leery of throwing a long term contract at him. Pietrus would be nice but I think he will use the Spurs' interest to get someone else to pay him handsomely. Hill would be a stop gap, a nice addition to the bench to be the Spurs' 10th or 11th man. Nocioni would require a few things to fall into place for him to don the silver & black next season.

Here's a small ball lineup for you...

TP
Manu
Bowen
Posey
TD

:toast

Atl Spur

06-13-2007, 08:52 PM

Sasha!

canadianspursfan

06-13-2007, 08:55 PM

Hey folks, I'm new to this forum and it's great to see so many spurs fans. There aren't too many where I'm from. Anyway this free agent thread got me excited. I don't think the Spurs will be able to get Rashard Lewis but if they added him with the big 3 we would never lose. I just wanted to throw a name out there that nobody mentioned: Morris Peterson from the raptors. We get a lot of the Raps games up here in Canada and he's been solid for a few years. He's a good role player that can shoot from the perimeter and is an good defender. He would probably come at a much more affordable price. Any thoughts?

dav4463

06-13-2007, 09:00 PM

I like Morris Peterson's game a lot.

Spurs Dynasty 21

06-13-2007, 09:32 PM

Barnes would be awesome as a Spur, but WAY out of our range

Holt is too cheap anyway

Darkwaters

06-13-2007, 09:34 PM

I definitely like Morris Peterson and would love to add him to the squad. That being said, I wouldn't ever take Rashard. He doesn't fit the system and would cost entirely too much.

exstatic

06-13-2007, 09:42 PM

I don't get the Pietrus thing...at least not now anyway. Finley/Bowen/Barry are still on this team, and James White brings a similar skill set (athleticism & defense) for what would likely be 1/3 or 1/4 of the cost.

If he takes the one-year tender and becomes a legit FA next year, I could definitely see the Spurs going after him then, but for this Summer I'm not sure that they have the $$$, the roster space, or the need...

Finley/Bowen/Barry may ALL be gone by 2008, and it takes a year to learn the system. We need at least one "someone" other than White to bring on board, NOW.