View Full Version : Dennis Lindsey. 'wish you could have this one back?
Solid D
06-18-2007, 05:08 PM
http://www.nba.com/rockets/news/Dennis_Lindsey_Blog_April_edi-175647-822.html
http://www.nba.com/media/rockets/lindseyblog.jpg
Dennis Lindsey
Rockets Vice President of Basketball Operations/Player Personnel
-I’m very proud to be a Rocket and to work here on a day-to-day basis for a team that I grew up with. Rudy, Calvin (Murphy), Hakeem, and Clyde, were why I started playing basketball. The day that I leave this job, I’ll always be a Rocket.
:lol
timvp
06-18-2007, 05:11 PM
So we got a Rocket Fan in the mix? :td
Someone needs to start the DRob vs. Hakeem argument with him. :stirpot:
Solid D
06-18-2007, 05:13 PM
All is not lost. Read the blog about his evaluation of Chuck Hayes, LJ.
Here is the main piece from it written by Lindsey on Hayes.
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Chuck Hayes is the latest example of the PIT working to provide the NBA with good, solid role players. We, like every other team in the NBA, had Chuck way down the priority list when we worked our draft rankings in April. Dean Cooper is a big proponent of overall team winning percentage for all draft prospects, and Chuck Hayes led all prospects in that one measure; we took note, but no question in hindsight we underestimated Chuck’s positive impact on the scoreboard when he plays. Chuck went on to become MVP of the PIT, leading his team to the championship of the tournament. It was then that we decided that we should bring him in for an individual workout. Measuring at 6-6 is typically a kiss of death for a power forward that has NBA aspirations (outside of Charles Barkley) if you study the history of the NBA, but looking back Chuck had some unique qualities that have allowed him to overcome his height at this stage of his young career. Chuck has what we call a “unique combination” of traits – he is very strong, fast, quick, has great hands, possess elite toughness, and he is a player who is both instinctive and smart. With all that information we still did not see him as draft-able since only one other team brought him in for a workout. Hayes then went on to play well at the Chicago Pre-Draft Camp, and would you believe his team went on to be undefeated? We brought Chuck in for a second workout thinking that he would provide good competition for other “priority big men;” needless to say, he did very well again. We then decided Chuck would be a good rookie free agent since we felt like he was going to be un-drafted; so we decided to bring him to summer league and possibly Veteran’s Camp since he is smart and competitive. He helped our summer league entry go undefeated, and we brought him to Veteran’s Camp in October. He stood out during the camp and in short minutes he received in preseason games.
Protrade.com did some interesting statistical work on this year’s NBA Rookies using different measures, and minute per ratios; currently both of our rookies (Head & Hayes) rank high in Protrade’s overall rookie evaluations. In addition, Chuck has our third best plus/minus score output for our team behind Tracy and Yao. Lastly, for you John Hollinger/PER (Player Efficiency Rating) fans, Chuck has hovered around 17.00, which is a very solid PER for most players, and an especially good number for a rookie power forward. Remember that Chuck has a relatively small number of minutes played, so one has to be cautious about future predictions/forecasts, but certainly Chuck’s early returns on our investment in scouting him have been solid.
timvp
06-18-2007, 05:16 PM
I also saw where he wanted the Rockets to draft Amare.
Those two resume points sound good enough to me.
Spurminator
06-18-2007, 05:28 PM
Sorry if this was covered elsewhere but did he mastermind the Eddie Griffin deal?
Just curious.
timvp
06-18-2007, 05:29 PM
Sorry if this was covered elsewhere but did he mastermind the Eddie Griffin deal?
Just curious.
Supposedly he was against it.
Let's hope that is the truth.
Kori Ellis
06-18-2007, 05:31 PM
Was Lior Eliyahu his find?
Solid D
06-18-2007, 05:36 PM
Was Lior Eliyahu his find?
He scouted him...to be sure.
http://www.clutchfans.net/news/1408/lior_eliyahu_expected_to_join_summer_team/
Rockets VP of Basketball Operations Dennis Lindsey took a timeout from the Orlando predraft camp and workouts on Monday to answer some of our questions about Eliyahu and the upcoming draft.
"Lior has progressed very well this season and he is one of the better 21-year old big men in Europe," said Lindsey. "He is a good athlete who can really finish in the paint."
"In addition, he has good value around the NBA as several teams have asked for his rights."
While the team has not put a timetable on Eliyahu joining the NBA, Lindsey added that the Rockets are planning on bringing him over for the summer program this year, so fans should get a good look at him.
However, there could be a minor delay.
"Lior currently has a small fracture on his index finger and he is going to have minor surgery on his nose therefore we might not get him to Houston as soon as we anticipated," said Lindsey.
Kori Ellis
06-18-2007, 05:43 PM
From what I understand he is very, very scared to play in the post against any strong/rough players. I wonder if they will try to convert him to a 3.
Solid D
06-18-2007, 05:52 PM
Yes, I would see Eliyahu as a 3 but (from the times I've seen him) he does seem to get a lot of hustle points around the basket.
Back to Lindsey, though, he did a lot of their scouting in Europe.
Aggie Hoopsfan
06-18-2007, 05:57 PM
With all that information we still did not see him as draft-able since only one other team brought him in for a workout.
Seems kinda weird to base your draft plans on whether other teams bring him in for individual workouts. What if they liked what they saw at a pre-draft camp enough to pick him, or they brought him for a private workout that was kept quiet?
Solid D
06-18-2007, 06:06 PM
Seems kinda weird to base your draft plans on whether other teams bring him in for individual workouts. What if they liked what they saw at a pre-draft camp enough to pick him, or they brought him for a private workout that was kept quiet?
You don't need to "reach" to draft a player you don't think will be drafted...if you think you can sign him after the draft.
Solid D
06-18-2007, 06:15 PM
Lindsey also attends the pre-draft Eurocamps. Here is the lineup to the 2006 camp in Treviso, Italy where Dennis served as a coach alongside some pretty special company.
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http://www.draftexpress.com/dedaily.php?p=583
Monday, February 27, 2006
2006 RBK Eurocamp in Treviso dates announced
By Jonathan Givony
Press release:
The 2006 RBK Eurocamp will be conducted this year from June 11 – 14, 2006 in Treviso, Italy.
About the Eurocamp
The RBK Eurocamp is a four day event taking place each June at La Ghirada Sports Complex in Treviso, Italy. The camp displays the most talented international basketball players from around the world. Each year 48 elite players, ages 18-21, are invited to participate and gain the opportunity to showcase their skills to scouts, coaches, and general managers from a number of basketball teams and leagues from around the world, including the National Basketball Association (NBA), as well as gain coverage from major global media outlets such as ESPN.
Eurocamp History
2006 will mark the 4th year of the RBK Eurocamp. This special week, along with the inclusion of the Big Man Camp, has produced an impressive guest list:
• 2005 alone, featured representatives from 30 NBA teams
• In 2004 – 2005, 23 ex-campers participated in the Euroleague
• 13 campers were participants in the 2005 European Championship
in Belgrade
World class coaching staffs which have included such names as:
**Donnie Nelson Dallas Mavericks
**Kiki Vandeweghe Denver Nuggets
**Jack Sikma Seattle Supersonics
**Mike Dunleavy LA Clippers
**Jay Triano Toronto Raptors
**Dennis Lindsey Houston Rockets
**Tony Ronzone Detroit Pistons
**Danny Ferry Cleveland Cavaliers
**Bill Bayno Portland Trailblazers
**Piero Bucchi Napoli, Italy
**Renato Pasquali BC Kiev, Ukraine
**Mike D’Antoni Phoenix Suns
**Ettore Messina CSKA Moscow
Noteworthy participants from past RBK Eurocamps:
Johan Petro
Yaroslav Korolev
Pavel Podkolzin
Nemanja Aleksandrov
Mile Ilic
Martynas Andriuskevicius
Roko Ukic
Marko Tomas
Rudy Fernandez
Andrea Bargnani
2005 attracted 242 attendants including:
∗ 40 agents
∗ 17 journalists/press members
∗ 8 scouting agencies
∗ 55 coaches
∗ 47 NBA GM’s/Directors/Scouts
Looking forward to this year:
Date: June 11—14, 2006
Place: La Ghirada Sports Complex, Treviso, Italy
Highlights:
RBK All Star Teams vs. U20 National Teams TBA
The 2006 version of the RBK Eurocamp is sure to provide a great amount of basketball talent. Along with the normal 48 participants, the inclusion of the RBK Big Man Camp, and plans for three all star games against U-20 national teams will present the potential to watch approximately 90 different prospects.
“The RBK Eurocamp has established itself as a great exposure and teaching camp for some of the best young players in the world. The involvement of NBA coaches and scouts will provide these players with a unique opportunity to show their skills this June." -Fran Fraschilla ESPN
Solid D
06-18-2007, 06:43 PM
Bio on Lindsey from the 2007 RBK Eurocamp
http://www.rbkeurocamp.com/images/coaches/Lindsey.jpg
http://www.rbkeurocamp.com/images/coaches/Lindsey.jpg
Dennis Lindsey is in his 11th season with the Rockets and his fifth as Vice President of Basketball Operations/Player Personnel. In his current position, Lindsey assists General Manager Carroll Dawson with the evaluation of draft prospects, free agents and potential trades. In addition, he helps in salary cap matters and statistical evaluation for professional and amateur talent. Lindsey also coordinates the scouting of amateur and professional talent.
Before his promotion to Vice President, Lindsey spent three seasons as Director of Player Personnel. During the 1998-99 season, Lindsey served as the Rockets Director of Basketball Development. Lindsey joined the Rockets before the 1996-97 season as personnel video coordinator/scout, a position he held for two years.
Prior to coming to the Rockets, Lindsey was the assistant basketball coach and recruiting coordinator at Pensacola Junior College for two years. During his time in Florida, Pensacola was nationally ranked during both seasons. Before venturing to Pensacola, Lindsey was the assistant head coach at Fort Worth Southwest High School.
A starter at Baylor University, Lindsey helped the Bears advance to the NCAA Tournament in 1988 and the NIT Tournament in 1990. After graduating from Baylor with a bachelor's degree in education in 1992, Lindsey received his master's in sports management in 1994 from the United States Sports Academy. As a high school player in 1987, Lindsey took the Houston Select BCI Team to the national championship.
Born in Freeport, Texas, Lindsey and his wife, Becky, reside in Missouri City with their sons, Jacob and Matthew, and daughters, Meredith and Jessica Claire. Becky's father is F.A. Dry, the former head football coach at Tulsa and Texas Christian, as well as an assistant with the Houston Oilers. He was on the sidelines for the first college and professional football games played in the Astrodome.
Aggie Hoopsfan
06-18-2007, 07:30 PM
Actually the biggest thing I don't like about the guy is I don't think he's in it for the Spurs.
I forget the exact wording, but in one of the stories on his hiring he talks about coming to SA to get experience that will be valuable when he moves on in the basketball world.
Fuck that, I don't want a guy treating this as a stepping stone, I want a guy who is willing to become a part of the Spurs family.
medstudent
06-18-2007, 07:40 PM
Pop has a history of wanting people to do well for themselves and promoting their careers.
If you think someone who was next in line to be GM will be satisfied being a Spurs assistant for a long period of time, you're being selfish and drinking a big glass of haterade.
Aggie Hoopsfan
06-18-2007, 09:20 PM
Pop has a history of wanting people to do well for themselves and promoting their careers.
If you think someone who was next in line to be GM will be satisfied being a Spurs assistant for a long period of time, you're being selfish and drinking a big glass of haterade.
So, how old are you, 12?
I get to help interview people for positions in our company. People who are talking about themselves and future jobs after ours before they're even hired aren't going to be good employees and don't even make it past the first round of interviews.
I want to see all the guys working for Spurs *secretly* want to be GM some day, that will drive their individual greatness. I don't want to see them already talking about their next job and how great they are because they worked for the Spurs BEFORE they even started working for them.
That's not selfish or drinking haterade, it's called how things work in the real world.
Marcus Bryant
06-18-2007, 10:40 PM
So the Spurs replace Presti with a 30 something ambitious basketball mind who is well versed in the draft and international scouting? Works for me.
Marcus Bryant
06-18-2007, 10:45 PM
http://www.nba.com/rockets/news/Dennis_Lindsey_Blog_April_edi-175647-822.html
http://www.nba.com/media/rockets/lindseyblog.jpg
Dennis Lindsey
Rockets Vice President of Basketball Operations/Player Personnel
-I’m very proud to be a Rocket and to work here on a day-to-day basis for a team that I grew up with. Rudy, Calvin (Murphy), Hakeem, and Clyde, were why I started playing basketball. The day that I leave this job, I’ll always be a Rocket.
:lol
I wonder if he uttered that before or after Morey replaced him as Dawson's heir apparent. In any event, it's not inconceivable that the Spurs could retire Robert Horry's jersey #. The times, they are a changin'.
Solid D
06-18-2007, 11:26 PM
I wonder if he uttered that before or after Morey replaced him as Dawson's heir apparent. In any event, it's not inconceivable that the Spurs could retire Robert Horry's jersey #. The times, they are a changin'.
He uttered them years before.
T Park
06-19-2007, 12:46 AM
So the Spurs replace Presti with a 30 something ambitious basketball mind who is well versed in the draft and international scouting? Works for me
Yeah if so, I don't see the downside.
MrChug
06-19-2007, 02:09 AM
Where can I get a pair of you guys' rose colored glasses?? This guy will be mediocre at best...you don't find guys who's experience prior to the Rockets include
Prior to coming to the Rockets, Lindsey was the assistant basketball coach and recruiting coordinator at Pensacola Junior College for two years. .
...AN ASSISTANT COACH AT A JUNIOR COLLEGE? Are you fucking kidding me??
no no no...I'm pissed. We made a hasty decision.
ShoogarBear
06-19-2007, 04:41 AM
...AN ASSISTANT COACH AT A JUNIOR COLLEGE? Are you fucking kidding me??
no no no...I'm pissed. We made a hasty decision.Uh, he's been with the Rockets for 11 years. It's not like he didn't pan out.
Rick Von Braun
06-19-2007, 08:40 AM
Actually the biggest thing I don't like about the guy is I don't think he's in it for the Spurs.
I forget the exact wording, but in one of the stories on his hiring he talks about coming to SA to get experience that will be valuable when he moves on in the basketball world.
Fuck that, I don't want a guy treating this as a stepping stone, I want a guy who is willing to become a part of the Spurs family.
Aggie,
Sorry but I disagree. Basketball is a business, and FO jobs are like any other job in the business world. You want the person identified with the brand and comfortable working with others, but other than that, you can't ask for more.
Cheers
michaelwcho
06-19-2007, 09:32 AM
So, how old are you, 12?
I get to help interview people for positions in our company. People who are talking about themselves and future jobs after ours before they're even hired aren't going to be good employees and don't even make it past the first round of interviews.
I want to see all the guys working for Spurs *secretly* want to be GM some day, that will drive their individual greatness. I don't want to see them already talking about their next job and how great they are because they worked for the Spurs BEFORE they even started working for them.
That's not selfish or drinking haterade, it's called how things work in the real world.
So in other words, you want your prospective employees to lie to you. Sorry to agree with the 12-year-old,but there's some kind of gatorade drinking going on here.
Solid D
06-19-2007, 07:02 PM
So in other words, you want your prospective employees to lie to you. Sorry to agree with the 12-year-old,but there's some kind of gatorade drinking going on here.
People don't want to hear what the new guy can GET by joining the team.
People want to hear what the new guy can DO for the team.
Solid D
06-19-2007, 10:14 PM
More current photo of Lindsey.
http://www.nba.com/media/rockets/content_lindseyblog2.jpg
June 19, 2007
Spurs Welcome Lindsey To Front Office
SAN ANTONIO - The San Antonio Spurs announced today that they have named Dennis Lindsey vice president/assistant general manager.
Lindsey has spent the past 11 seasons with the Houston Rockets, the last five as vice president of basketball operations/player personnel. Prior to being named vice president, Lindsey spent three seasons as director of player personnel. During the 1998-99 season, he served as the Rockets director of player development. Lindsey joined the Rockets in 1996 as personnel video coordinator/scout.
“I am thrilled to have Dennis Lindsey joining our program,” said Spurs General Manger RC Buford. “I have the greatest respect for the Rockets franchise and am impressed with all that he accomplished as a member of their organization. Dennis brings a wealth of knowledge to our staff and we are all very excited about his future with the Spurs.”
Prior to joining the Rockets, Lindsey was the assistant basketball coach and recruiting coordinator at Pensacola Junior College for two years. Before venturing to Pensacola, Lindsey was the assistant head coach at Fort Worth Southwest High School.
A starter at Baylor University, Lindsey helped the Bears advance to the NCAA Tournament in 1988 and the NIT Tournament in 1990. After graduating from Baylor with a bachelor's degree in education in 1992, Lindsey received his master's in sports management in 1994 from the United States Sports Academy.
Aggie Hoopsfan
06-19-2007, 10:36 PM
So in other words, you want your prospective employees to lie to you. Sorry to agree with the 12-year-old,but there's some kind of gatorade drinking going on here.
People don't want to hear what the new guy can GET by joining the team.
People want to hear what the new guy can DO for the team.
EXACTLY. I'm sorry it's lost on you two. Call it professional courtesy, call it toeing the party line, whatever you want, but you don't show up the day you got hired and say "this is a great company, it's going to look freakin' great on my resume when I leave in a couple of years."
That's lame.
Solid D
06-19-2007, 10:43 PM
I'm sure once medstudent gets finished with school, begins a residency and then ultimately begins work in a medical practice somewhere...he will want to let his patients know how much experience they are going to give him as he receives practical O.J.T..
Marcus Bryant
06-19-2007, 10:50 PM
So is RC on his way out? If not, what's the pissing match about?
Solid D
06-19-2007, 10:53 PM
No way RC is on his way out.
Marcus Bryant
06-19-2007, 10:56 PM
No way RC is on his way out.
Precisely. So it's rather obvious that being assistant GM for the Spurs doesn't offer much in the way of internal advancement here in the near term.
Go punch one out, ahf.
timvp
06-19-2007, 10:56 PM
“I am thrilled to have Dennis Lindsey joining our program,” said Spurs General Manger RC Buford. “I have the greatest respect for the Rockets franchise..."
I'm sure he does, seeing how the Spurs always go after the scrubs that the Rockets waive. Melvin Sanders, Alex Scales, Dion Glover and Mike Wilks were all signed by the Spurs after being waived by the Rockets :lol
Then there's the guys who have been on summer league teams for both the Spurs and the Rockets such as Stephen Graham, Andre Barrett, Brooks Sales and Andre Brown.
The Rockets drafted Bryce Drew and Michael Dickerson ... both of whom where highly coveted by the Spurs.
To top it off, the the Spurs and Rockets also shared in mistakes regarding Charlie Ward and Derek Anderson.
Lindsey and Buford have some of the same tastes in players. Although looking at the above players, I'm not sure if that's a good thing.
:smokin
ShoogarBear
06-19-2007, 10:58 PM
With a name like Dennis, how could he be bad for the Spurs?
timvp
06-19-2007, 10:59 PM
With a name like Dennis, how could he be bad for the Spurs?
And with a name like Lindsey, this could officially signal the end for Beno.
Marcus Bryant
06-19-2007, 11:02 PM
I'm sure he does, seeing how the Spurs always go after the scrubs that the Rockets waive. Melvin Sanders, Alex Scales, Dion Glover and Mike Wilks were all signed by the Spurs after being waived by the Rockets :lol
Then there's the guys who have been on summer league teams for both the Spurs and the Rockets such as Stephen Graham, Andre Barrett, Brooks Sales and Andre Brown.
The Rockets drafted Bryce Drew and Michael Dickerson ... both of whom where highly coveted by the Spurs.
To top it off, the the Spurs and Rockets also shared in mistakes regarding Charlie Ward and Derek Anderson.
Lindsey and Buford have some of the same tastes in players. Although looking at the above players, I'm not sure if that's a good thing.
:smokin
http://images.usatoday.com/sports/23elie.jpghttp://home.att.net/~jamestata/robert_horry2.bmp
Works for me.
Marcus Bryant
06-19-2007, 11:04 PM
http://www.nba.com/media/espanol/carl_herrera250.jpg
OK, maybe not so much.
ShoogarBear
06-19-2007, 11:04 PM
What is Vernon Maxwell doing these days?
Marcus Bryant
06-19-2007, 11:04 PM
http://cdn.channel.aol.com/channels/06/01/446df993-00269-03a07-400cb8e1
Nah, no worries.
Solid D
06-19-2007, 11:07 PM
http://www.rbkeurocamp.com/images/coaches/Lindsey.jpg http://www.nba.com/media/rockets/content_lindseyblog2.jpg
The Carroll Dawson hairstyle . . . . . . . . The R C Buford hairstyle
Marcus Bryant
06-19-2007, 11:07 PM
Hall of Fame (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ux0nc_G8n1w)
ShoogarBear
06-19-2007, 11:12 PM
:lmao, I've been trying to find a picture of Moses in a Spur uniform for the last 15 minutes.
Marcus Bryant
06-19-2007, 11:20 PM
:lmao, I've been trying to find a picture of Moses in a Spur uniform for the last 15 minutes.
Hey, he retired as a San Antonio Spur.
:smokin
Solid D
06-19-2007, 11:23 PM
The Spurs are "Fo fo fo".
Marcus Bryant
06-19-2007, 11:35 PM
Malone wore several different jersey numbers in his career, among them #2 with the Sixers, Hawks, and Spurs....
http://www.detroitbadboys.com/images/nazrMohammed.jpg
https://www.nbrpa.com/news/editorial/images/jaren_top.jpg
http://www.spursinfo.com/photos/coyote/coyote_20.jpg
Marcus Bryant
06-19-2007, 11:37 PM
That's former Houston Rocket Jaren Jackson, BTW...
ShoogarBear
06-19-2007, 11:38 PM
Hey, he retired as a San Antonio Spur.
:smokinAnd his last shot was like a 60-footer that went in, no?
timvp
06-19-2007, 11:41 PM
http://www.rbkeurocamp.com/images/coaches/Lindsey.jpg
http://www.hoopshype.com/general_managers/donn_nelson.jpg
Maybe RC thought he was hiring Donnie Nelson.
Marcus Bryant
06-19-2007, 11:45 PM
And his last shot was like a 60-footer that went in, no?
80.
Solid D
06-19-2007, 11:54 PM
http://www.rbkeurocamp.com/images/coaches/Lindsey.jpg
http://www.hoopshype.com/general_managers/donn_nelson.jpg
Maybe RC thought he was hiring Donnie Nelson.
:lol I had a similar thought about the resemblance but not as funny.
Solid D
06-19-2007, 11:55 PM
Moses wore #8 for the Bucks, didn't he?
Marcus Bryant
06-19-2007, 11:59 PM
Moses wore #8 for the Bucks, didn't he?
According to the internets you are correct.
coopdogg3
06-20-2007, 01:48 AM
Cool, a fellow Baylor Bear. He has that working for him.
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