Spurs re-sign Oberto and Vaughn

[timvp]

Oberto has re-signed for a three-year deal. Vaughn got two-years and $2.5M (veteran's minimum).

More information should be coming shortly . . .

[Solid D]

:elephant

[Solid D]

:elephant
:smokin

[usckk]

yeah, buddy! This is huge!

[ashbeeigh]

:elephant on Fabs. I'm unsure about Vaughn for all the previously mentioned things.

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

I'm unsure about Vaughn for all the previously mentioned things.

For the vet minimum, it's great news.

A great third PG who can spell the backup at times for that price and with a second year in the system is very beneficial.

[usckk]

Agree ^

[spurtime]

I'm big on the Vaughn re-signing. Having a reliable distributor who plays defense as a backup point is huge.

[Solid D]

Oberto has re-signed for a three-year deal. Vaughn got two-years and $2.5M (veteran's minimum).

More information should be coming shortly . . .

I'm just sooo glad Jimcs didn't post this sans-link instead of timvp.

[Darkwaters]

For the vet minimum, it's great news.

A great third PG who can spell the backup at times for that price and with a second year in the system is very beneficial.

Precisely! Jacque Vaughn was being courted by at least a few other teams (Miami) and its nice to be able to lock him up at such a reasonable rate. With a year in the system already Jacque could be huge for us. Having him as a third PG is nice b/c he can step up if needed...although I really hope he never has to.

Oberto has already received tons of praise and needed to be brought back. 3 years sounds like a reasonable length of time, but without knowing how much hes getting I'll reserve further comment for later.

[usckk]

For the vet minimum, it's great news.

A great third PG who can spell the backup at times for that price and with a second year in the system is very beneficial.

What? Who's going to back-up Parker?

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

What? Who's going to back-up Parker?

It's illogical for me to assume the Spurs are going to work some kind of trade for the rights to Acie Law, but here's hoping the Spurs get a serviceable backup PG in a deal or through FA.

We've got trade bait... the rights to Scola, Barry's expiring contract, the rotting carcass of Beno Udrih's career.

[SequSpur]

Yeah!!!!!

Drive for Five!!!!!

:rolleyes

[usckk]

It's illogical for me to assume the Spurs are going to work some kind of trade for the rights to Acie Law, but here's hoping the Spurs get a serviceable backup PG in a deal or through FA.

We've got trade bait... the rights to Scola, Barry's expiring contract, the rotting carcass of Beno Udrih's career.

Haha at comment about Beno. But true.

[FromWayDowntown]

:tu

Particularly if the price is right on Oberto.

[usckk]

3 year/12 million is my guess, with a team-option in the final year.

[yavozerb]

hmmmmm, where's bonner's name? His signing is looking less and less the longer we here he has not signed. The spurs showed who was a priority and who was not!

[ashbeeigh]

Precisely! Jacque Vaughn was being courted by at least a few other teams (Miami) and its nice to be able to lock him up at such a reasonable rate. With a year in the system already Jacque could be huge for us. Having him as a third PG is nice b/c he can step up if needed...although I really hope he never has to.


I was unaware of other team's interest in him, so :tu on the quick action on him. Her'es hoping that the team can get together a 2nd PG for Tony, because even with Beno out of the tournament for the summer he'll need a miracle to be a good back-up. That's just what I worry about, the fact that we, as ST, talk about JV as a 3rd PG when, for most of the 1st half of the season, and all of the 2nd, he was the back-up. But, all my opinion.

[djohn14]

I'm not too big on Oberto. I don't know why. He dosent catch me as a basketball player. I like him, but...I don't know. He's OK I guess. I'm just not sold on him yet. He only made layups. I guess I can take a product of the system.

[koopa]

i like vaughn, he pissed me off every now and then during the playoffs when he missed a couple of layups because he was trying to hard on a fast break, but overall he's a good back up, he may not put up numbers, but he plays good defense and runs the offense pretty good.....it must feel weird for him that he doesn't have to move for at least another 2 seasons (well that is if we don't trade him in 08).......... hopefully we'll find a younger back up though and he stays on just as 3rd stringer

oberto was signed for way to long, he's gonna be useless in next years playoffs when we play the suns and the mavs, but i guess they have to be loyal to this old guy

[Vito Corleone]

I'm good with both moves, I didn't see anyone out there I would take over guys who already knows our system and we know exactly what we will get.

Free agency this year is crap, we need to keep what we got (we did) and work on evaluating the guys who are in our system right now.

[Dro210]

I was unaware of other team's interest in him, so :tu on the quick action on him. Her'es hoping that the team can get together a 2nd PG for Tony, because even with Beno out of the tournament for the summer he'll need a miracle to be a good back-up. That's just what I worry about, the fact that we, as ST, talk about JV as a 3rd PG when, for most of the 1st half of the season, and all of the 2nd, he was the back-up. But, all my opinion.

^Yea... I don't know what this 3rd string business is... last I checked he was gettin alot more PT than Beno...

Anyway, I'm happy to see Fab back, not that I thought he was goin anywhere, just glad to have that out of the way.... Vaughn, like yall say, I can't stand when he's on the court, but he's not all that bad... especially if we do actually find somebody else and he's really the 3rd string point, then it's great

[smrattler]

Oberto has re-signed for a three-year deal. Vaughn got two-years and $2.5M (veteran's minimum).

More information should be coming shortly . . .

Hey timvp, link or was this on the news (tv)? Or is this inside info? :fro

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

hmmmmm, where's bonner's name? His signing is looking less and less the longer we here he has not signed. The spurs showed who was a priority and who was not!

Patience, grasshopper.

[usckk]

I'm not too big on Oberto. I don't know why. He dosent catch me as a basketball player. I like him, but...I don't know. He's OK I guess. I'm just not sold on him yet. He only made layups. I guess I can take a product of the system.

The thing about Oberto is that he's really not that great, like Bowen. Both players just mold into the Spurs system very well. Some players are like that. They strive in certain environments. And for these two, the Spurs offensive and defensive system fit them very well. Oberto is best moving without the ball, getting easy lay-ups. It may sound unimpressive, but you have to remember Rasho and Nazr couldn't of even catch passes. Also, Oberto is a great team defender. He does a great job of staying on the offensive player and not over-jumping, like Elson. And his help defense is great!

[L.I.T]

For the money, good signings.

[Big P]

They cant actually sign until the 12th right? I guess they reached an agreement.

[K-State Spur]

oberto cutting into the 08 master plan.



probably not. seeing as how quickly this deal was done, he was probably signed for a very reasonable rate that won't cut much into the '08 cap room. if he was asking for 4-5 million per, this likely would have taken more than a day and a half to get done.

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

They cant actually sign until the 12th right? I guess they reached an agreement.


11th.

All of these stories coming out are about tentative agreements. Granted, things can change in a week, but the agreements are made in principle.

[Big P]

Thanks JB47.

[exstatic]

oberto cutting into the 08 master plan.

nevertheless, 5 players signed won't hurt much
Well, with the new TV/media contracts raising the bux by 20%, look for a nice li'l bump in both the cap and the tax next summer. Also, the Spurs seem to rarely guarantee ALL years of contracts for role players. The last year is usually either partial, or not at all.

[timvp]

Hey timvp, link or was this on the news (tv)? Or is this inside info? :fro

Expect a link within two hours.

[El_Mago]

I'm sure Ludden will have something out around 1 am.

[milkyway21]

:tu for Oberto but I can't say much for Vaughn.
Sometimes, my heart is pounding a little faster and I worry if he's on the court.. :wakeup

okay 2007-08 Spurs same but older team :rolleyes

REPEAT.

[usckk]

http://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/basketball/nba/spurs/stories/MYSA070307.1D.spurs.35ae932.html

Vaughn remains a Spur

Web Posted: 07/02/2007 11:05 PM CDT

Johnny Ludden
Express-News

The Spurs have reached agreement with Jacque Vaughn on a two-year contract that will pay him about $2.5 million, an NBA source said Monday.

Vaughn's agreement, which pays him the minimum salary for players with at least 10 seasons of experience, means the Spurs have commitments from two of their free agents. Fabricio Oberto plans to sign a three-year deal once the league's free-agent moratorium ends on July 11.

The Spurs also are continuing negotiations with forward Matt Bonner.

Vaughn, 32, joined the Spurs last season and became the team's most dependable reserve point guard since Speedy Claxton left after the 2003 championship.

Though Vaughn began the season alternating games on the inactive list with Eric Williams, he eventually replaced Beno Udrih as Tony Parker's backup.

In 64 games, Vaughn averaged 3.0 points, 2.0 assists and 11.9 minutes.

[Fast Dunk]

Good!!!

Every team in the NBA is going to kick this geriatric team collective asses!!!

Good !!! I'm glad you didn't get any better but maybe WORSE

[El_Mago]

As expected.

I suppose the last roster spot will go to Williams.

Spurs seem pretty set.

[Solid D]

Good!!!

Every team in the NBA is going to kick this geriatric team collective asses!!!

Good !!! I'm glad you didn't get any better but maybe WORSE

:lol Let's play another 4 games, then! The Spurs aren't tired.

[Fast Dunk]

and BTW

NO REPEAT!!!

[dknights411]

Good!!!

Every team in the NBA is going to kick this geriatric team collective asses!!!

Good !!! I'm glad you didn't get any better but maybe WORSE

It doesn't really say that much that your team got SWEPT by a bunch of senior citizens, huh?

[dknights411]

and BTW

NO REPEAT!!!

We take even years off anyway. :fro

[Dro210]

Good!!!

Every team in the NBA is going to kick this geriatric team collective asses!!!

Good !!! I'm glad you didn't get any better but maybe WORSE


:cry :cry :cry :cry :cry

and exactly what moves has Cleveland made?

Besides saying they want Beno :lol :lol

[Darkwaters]

Good!!!

Every team in the NBA is going to kick this geriatric team collective asses!!!

Good !!! I'm glad you didn't get any better but maybe WORSE

You do realize that your GM is said to be pursuing Beno Udrih, right? Thats a bit of the pot calling the kettle black I'd say.

[Solid D]

Google translation from the local newspaper in Cordoba, Fabs' hometown.

http://www.lmcordoba.com.ar/&sa=X&oi=translate&resnum=2&ct=result&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dlmcba.com%26hl%3Den

report

To a passage in the agreement

The agent of Fabricio Oberto announced that they are near deciding the new bond with San Antonio Spurs. “We are going to obtain the contract and probably it is this week”, said. He would be by three years.
Marcelo Chaijale
to [email protected]


Fabricio Oberto has well in clear where it wants to continue playing in NBA. It left his contract with San Antonio Spurs to follow in the champion with Manu Ginóbili. And the Spurs wants it and they have it in its plans to defend the title in the coming campaign.

The agent of Oberto, Herb Rudoy said in the local newspaper, San Antonio Express News who the agreement is closely together, considering that from the first day of the month could begin the negotiations. “Fab left in clear that it does not wish to play in another place that is not in the Spurs, and all they know that” declared the representative of the Cordovan. “We are going to obtain the contract and probably it is this same week”, added Rudoy.

Oberto, when leaving the contract declared free agent and the players, in this condition, can reach verbal agreements with the equipment, but they cannot sign contracts until the 11 of the current. The Cordovan had a year more of bond in exchange for 2.5 million dollars, but free agent with the only intention declared itself to obtain more years of contracts in the Spurs, in addition to a greater bond in the economic aspect. The pivot told the MORNING that waits for company/signature by “three years more” in San Antonio.

Oberto gained a place in the Spurs, and say, in San Antonio, became popular between its teammates, in addition to being friend of Manu Ginóbili. It has great relation with Brent Barry (they touch together the guitar) :lol, in addition to Tony Parker and the star of the equipment, Tim Duncan. Also, the technician Gregg Popovich emphasized the virtues, inside and outside the field of the pivot of the Rods.

Sunday, the newspaper Memphis Commercial Appeal, published the interest of Memphis by Oberto and added that that equipment already had tried its draftee in 2005 when the Cordovan signed in the Spurs.

Tribute

The Deliberative Council of Cordova will today approve the figure of the Approval to homenajear to Fabricio Oberto, by initiative of the Front for the Victory.


http://www.lmcordoba.com.ar/resize.php?imagen=2007/07/03/imagenes_noticias/POD07-1.JPG&newancho=208

OF THE SOTA IT HAS HIS T-SHIRT OF THE CHAMPION OF NBA

Fabricio Oberto visited the office of Jose Manuel governor of the Sota and was distinguished as Citizen Illustrious of Cordova. The champion of NBA gave to the governor two t-shirts to him of San Antonio Spurs, one with his number 7, but that takes to the name Of the Sota in the back and the other with the name of Oberto. It is not the first t-shirt of Oberto that he has Of the Sota, since the player sent to him of gift one of the Olympiakos of Greece in 1998, when From the Sota he obtained the government of Cordova. While Head of State flattered a clock to him to the pivot of the Rods.

[Josh810]

Good!!!

Every team in the NBA is going to kick this geriatric team collective asses!!!

Good !!! I'm glad you didn't get any better but maybe WORSE
Haha, wow. Self-owning going on here.

[Ken Loomis]

SWEET! This move now assures the Mavs are going back to the Finals. With the Suns imploding and the Spurs keeping their old ass team in tact, the Mavs will be back as the top dog in the West! :elephant :elephant :elephant :elephant

[fuckespn]

SWEET! This move now assures the Mavs are going back to the Finals. With the Suns imploding and the Spurs keeping their old ass team in tact, the Mavs will be back as the top dog in the West! :elephant :elephant :elephant :elephant

You gotta be kiddin me

[Ken Loomis]

You gotta be kiddin me

Spurs don't have an answer for Dirk nor Howard. We give you match up nightmares. The only difference is it is 2008 rather than 2006. This shit just made my day! Mavs are back baby! :elephant :elephant

[fuckespn]

Spurs don't have an answer for Dirk nor Howard. We give you match up nightmares. The only difference is it is 2008 rather than 2006. This shit just made my day! Mavs are back baby! :elephant :elephant

you lost to the golden state warriors in 6 games

[milkyway21]

It has great relation with Brent Barry (they touch together the guitar) , in addition to Tony Parker and the star of the equipment, Tim Duncan. :lmao

[Dro210]

Keep dreamin Kenny

[coopdogg3]

Spurs don't have an answer for Dirk nor Howard. We give you match up nightmares. The only difference is it is 2008 rather than 2006. This shit just made my day! Mavs are back baby! :elephant :elephant


Unless you face Golden State of course, then all bets are off.

[ATX Spur]

I think I just went insane reading that Google translation.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

Spurs don't have an answer for Dirk nor Howard. We give you match up nightmares. The only difference is it is 2008 rather than 2006. This shit just made my day! Mavs are back baby! :elephant :elephant
:drunk

[T Park]

Gotta have Ludden go to Pop and say

"Ya know, barry and scola for Nocioni would work....."

[justanotherspursfan]

Spurs don't have an answer for Dirk nor Howard. We give you match up nightmares. The only difference is it is 2008 rather than 2006. This shit just made my day! Mavs are back baby! :elephant :elephant

Better hope you don't have to face any 8 seeds next year. Or choke, like in '06. Or, really, face anyone else and wait for the next stroke of "bad luck."

But don't worry. Clearly the coach that's won 3 series in two years >>>>>>>>>> the coach that has 4 titles in 10. And clearly, a regular-season MVP followed by a first-round exit >>>>>>>>>> 2 regular season MVPs and 3 finals MVPs. Keep telling yourself that.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

Gotta have Ludden go to Pop and say

"Ya know, barry and scola for Nocioni would work....."

:lol :tu

[BradLohaus]

Also, the technician Gregg Popovich emphasized the virtues, inside and outside the field of the pivot of the Rods.

:lol

[bigfan]

I love how all these trolls for other teams are knocking the fact that the Spurs are resigning the guys who happened to kick their asses during the playoffs. What this means is the Spurs will be at least as good as they were last year and the other teams, ie Mavs, Suns, Cavs ect... again have to make changes to get better because they sucked last year in the playoffs. Making changes is not a sure thing either. Let them chirp all they want, we will more than likely repeat next year.

[Solid D]

Spurs don't have an answer for Dirk nor Howard. We give you match up nightmares. The only difference is it is 2008 rather than 2006. This s*** just made my day! Mavs are back baby! :elephant :elephant


http://www.deadspin.com/images/2006/05/markcubandairquen.jpg

Meanwhile, this just in from Dallas...Mark Cuban ponders filing suit against Dairy Queen for failure to pay him at time-and-a-half for his after hours work. Cuban was quoted as saying, "I just can't let it go".

[Pablo Escobar]

someone tell me how much money the spurs will have for this 08 master plan i keep hearing about

[Kori Ellis]

Vaughn remains a Spur

Web Posted: 07/02/2007 11:05 PM CDT

Johnny Ludden
Express-News

The Spurs have reached agreement with Jacque Vaughn on a two-year contract that will pay him about $2.5 million, an NBA source said Monday.
Vaughn's agreement, which pays him the minimum salary for players with at least 10 seasons of experience, means the Spurs have commitments from two of their free agents. Fabricio Oberto plans to sign a three-year deal once the league's free-agent moratorium ends on July 11.

The Spurs also are continuing negotiations with forward Matt Bonner.

Vaughn, 32, joined the Spurs last season and became the team's most dependable reserve point guard since Speedy Claxton left after the 2003 championship.

Though Vaughn began the season alternating games on the inactive list with Eric Williams, he eventually replaced Beno Udrih as Tony Parker's backup.

In 64 games, Vaughn averaged 3.0 points, 2.0 assists and 11.9 minutes.


http://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/basketball/nba/spurs/stories/MYSA070307.1D.spurs.35ae932.html

[xamila rey]

I think I just went insane reading that Google translation.

http://www.lmcordoba.com.ar/2007/07/03/nota141021.html
Córdoba
Martes 3 de Julio de 2007

informe

A un paso del acuerdo

El agente de Fabricio Oberto anunció que están cerca de acordar el nuevo vínculo con San Antonio Spurs. “Vamos a conseguir el contrato y probablemente sea esta semana”, dijo. Sería por tres años.
Marcelo Chaijale
[email protected]


Fabricio Oberto tiene bien en claro donde quiere seguir jugando en la NBA. Salió de su contrato con San Antonio Spurs para seguir en el campeón con Manu Ginóbili. Y los Spurs lo quieren y lo tienen en sus planes para defender el título en la campaña venidera.

El agente de Oberto, Herb Rudoy dijo en el diario local, San Antonio Express News que el acuerdo está muy cerca, teniendo en cuenta que desde el primer día del mes podían comenzar las negociaciones. “Fab dejó en claro que no desea jugar en otro lugar que no sea en los Spurs, y todos saben eso” declaró el representante del cordobés. “Vamos a conseguir el contrato y probablemente sea esta misma semana”, agregó Rudoy.

Oberto, al salir del contrato se declaró agente libre y los jugadores, en esta condición, pueden alcanzar acuerdos verbales con los equipos, pero no pueden firmar contratos hasta el 11 del corriente. El cordobés tenía un año más de vínculo a cambio de 2,5 millones de dólares, pero se declaró agente libre con la única intención de conseguir más años de contratos en los Spurs, además de un vínculo mayor en el aspecto económico. El pivote le contó a LA MAÑANA que espera firma por unos “tres años más” en San Antonio.

Oberto se ganó un lugar en los Spurs, y dicen, en San Antonio, se hizo popular entre sus compañeros de equipo, además de ser amigo de Manu Ginóbili. Tiene gran relación con Brent Barry (tocan juntos la guitarra), además de Tony Parker y la estrella del equipo, Tim Duncan. También, el técnico Gregg Popovich resaltó las virtudes, dentro y fuera de la cancha del pivote de Las Varillas.

El domingo, el diario Memphis Commercial Appeal, publicó el interés de Memphis por Oberto y agregó que ese equipo ya había intentado su fichaje en 2005 cuando el cordobés firmó en los Spurs.


Homenaje

El Concejo Deliberante de Córdoba aprobará hoy la figura del Beneplácito para homenajear a Fabricio Oberto, por iniciativa del Frente para la Victoria.

[MaNuMaNiAc]

Spurs don't have an answer for Dirk nor Howard. We give you match up nightmares. The only difference is it is 2008 rather than 2006. This shit just made my day! Mavs are back baby! :elephant :elephantthats good, 'cause if I remember correctly we were one stupid Manu foul away from sending your sorry asses packing. That Manu foul won't save you again sweetheart.

[Pablo Escobar]

what fucking master plan

[milkyway21]

NO REPEAT


[/QUOTE=bigfan]I love how all these trolls for other teams are knocking the fact that the Spurs are resigning the guys who happened to kick their asses during the playoffs. What this means is the Spurs will be at least as good as they were last year and the other teams, ie Mavs, Suns, Cavs ect... again have to make changes to get better because they sucked last year in the playoffs. Making changes is not a sure thing either. Let them chirp all they want, we will more than likely repeat next year.[QUOTE]


Spurs don't have an answer for Dirk nor Howard. We give you match up nightmares. The only difference is it is 2008 rather than 2006. This shit just made my day! Mavs are back baby!


they didn't notice the main ingredient between this old, older Spurs team->CHEMISTRY.

the Suns and the Mavs can recruit FA to their teams but it will take more time for them to gel.

That was how Argentina beat the U.S. team in the Worlds.

A blindfolded Manu or TP can pass to the 30-yr old Timmy in the middle, or TP to Manu anywhere in the court.. now that I can imagine happening next season :lol

[hsxvvd]

Gotta have Ludden go to Pop and say

"Ya know, barry and scola for Nocioni would work....."

Every post you have written since the draft has been about getting Nocioni. If you like the guy so much, support the Bulls!

[ATX Spur]

Thanks, xamila.

I didn't know that Memphis wanted to draft Oberto in 2005.

[xamila rey]

Thanks, xamila.

I didn't know that Memphis wanted to draft Oberto in 2005.
de nada. :)

[BradLohaus]

Will he fit into the master plan?

I don't think they would have signed him for 3 years if he didn't fit in with The Plan. No one is above The Plan.

[milkyway21]

El domingo, el diario Memphis Commercial Appeal, publicó el interés de Memphis por Oberto y agregó que ese equipo ya había intentado su fichaje en 2005 cuando el cordobés firmó en los Spurs.


Busted. Memphis wanted Oberto.

That was so secret. I didn't read it on the news or NBA rumors :D

Everything is almost done under the radar nowadays. You just don't know what happens next. Me, I'm only certain that Yao Ming won't get a million votes as center in the West 2007-08 All-Star anymore now that Greg Oden is here. :lmao

[Bruno]

:tu Good news.

I suspect a player option on Vaughn second year. Vaughn for the min is a very good signing. At the worst, Vaughn is a great third string PG and third string PGs are paid the min.

[timvp]

:tu Good news.

I suspect a player option on Vaughn second year. Vaughn for the min is a very good signing. At the worst, Vaughn is a great third string PG and third string PGs are paid the min.

Yeah, as I said when the Spurs signed Vaughn, he was automatically the team's best third point guard in team history. The best situation would be to replace Beno with a player who may push Vaughn for the backup spot.

Vaughn as a third point guard who can play in an emergency is fantastic. Vaughn as an everyday backup point guard is decent as long as he hits open shots.

[T Park]

I can't help but like Vaughn, he does what you'd ask any professional athlete to do.

Hustle, give a crap, be a good guy, and win.

Jacque Vaughn is easily one of my favorite spurs on the team.

This being a two year deal is also good for my jersey collection, I was worried he would leave and I would have to give away another jersey :lol

[MannyIsGod]

Meh - I still cringe when Vaughn comes in but I can understand resigning him.

[Spurs Brazil]

Great news

Now it's only Bonner left. Do it

[Atl Spur]

SWEET! This move now assures the Mavs are going back to the Finals. With the Suns imploding and the Spurs keeping their old ass team in tact, the Mavs will be back as the top dog in the West! :elephant :elephant :elephant :elephant

You can never be considered TOP DOG......you have to WIN it all first Mr.Loomis!

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Great news for our third string point guard. Now they need to find a backup.

[Darkwaters]

SWEET! This move now assures the Mavs are going back to the Finals. With the Suns imploding and the Spurs keeping their old ass team in tact, the Mavs will be back as the top dog in the West! :elephant :elephant :elephant :elephant

I see somebody let you out of your cage.

[bigFUNDAMENTAL]

:danceclub

[MoSpur]

I'm still curious how much they signed Oberto for. Also if there is an option on that third year. Vaughn as a third string PG is not bad at all.

[BacktoBasics]

I like Vaughn for the minimum. Great move. What was the dollar amount on the 3 year Oberto deal....do we know yet.

[Darkwaters]

I like Vaughn for the minimum. Great move. What was the dollar amount on the 3 year Oberto deal....do we know yet.

Nope, still waiting.

[BacktoBasics]

Even though I like the signings it does bother me that its basically the same team as last year with no improvement. I'll be honest....I didn't think this team was championship caliber to begin with. They has a great playoff run and any championship team will tell you some good fortune (luck) always helps.

Not that there is a solution to that dilemma lol.

[AFBlue]

Even though I like the signings it does bother me that its basically the same team as last year with no improvement. I'll be honest....I didn't think this team was championship caliber to begin with. They has a great playoff run and any championship team will tell you some good fortune (luck) always helps.

Not that there is a solution to that dilemma lol.

Understand your point, but you can't fault the team for bringing back two solid bench contributors for minimal $$$.

Because the Spurs are over the salary cap, I don't think they'd be competitive in offers to some of the game-changing, bigger fish anyways.

I think the biggest splash they could make would be for Nocioni, and that just might be the thing that solidifies them for their run next year.

I also look for some of the in-house talent to improve with one year in the system, as it did in this past year (see: Oberto). Mainly, I'm thinking about the possible contributions of a guy like Butler...who has considerable game-changing talent.

[Budkin]

Good move... Vaughn doesn't scare me as much anymore. And Oberto was the man in the playoffs. :clap

[VaSpursFan]

let's all pray that vaughn and oberto put in serious time with Chip to develop serviceable jumpers.

i like these signings.

[ObiwanGinobili]

yeah. :)

[urunobili]

Scola is way better than Oberto... just ask him personally... i am not big on him as he is the reason why Luis Scola may never come to us.. i would hate us playing against him and he being responsible of a lost game with a monster performance on Pop's and Buford faces...

[Borosai]

Yay.

[Marcus Bryant]

So essentially the Spurs (as of now) are bringing back their rotation from their title run plus have their full MLE at their disposal (+LLE I believe) and tradeable assets such as expiring contracts (Beno, Barry, White, & Finley) and rights to international talent to improve upon that. Not bad.

It'll be interesting to see what happens with Bonner. As of now it seems that the Spurs are waiting to see what kind of offers the restricted free agent garners. Next season he will likely be on the outside of the rotation looking in, but after that there would be a role for him. Spurs will match if it's something cheap (say 2-3 years, $5-8mil) but will let him go if the offer reaches eight figures. Spurs could perhaps also find themselves a nice little sign and trade opportunity with him. Ely is another potential S&T candidate.

[Avitus1]

Its going to be great. I'm glad we got Fab back and Vaughn is great. I wonder when the hell we are getting rid of Beno.

[Marcus Bryant]

Its going to be great. I'm glad we got Fab back and Vaughn is great. I wonder when the hell we are getting rid of Beno.

Now that they have reached an agreement with Vaughn, the time is nigh.

[Marcus Bryant]

Great news for our third string point guard. Now they need to find a backup.

Who?

[Hemotivo]

Who? Pepe Sanchez?

[MaNuMaNiAc]

Either we've gotten an influx of Argies I haven't heard about, or Pepe has become world wide famous in a very very short time... :lol

[BacktoBasics]

Understand your point, but you can't fault the team for bringing back two solid bench contributors for minimal $$$.

Because the Spurs are over the salary cap, I don't think they'd be competitive in offers to some of the game-changing, bigger fish anyways.

I think the biggest splash they could make would be for Nocioni, and that just might be the thing that solidifies them for their run next year.

I also look for some of the in-house talent to improve with one year in the system, as it did in this past year (see: Oberto). Mainly, I'm thinking about the possible contributions of a guy like Butler...who has considerable game-changing talent.I agree. They are in the "tweener" market and their just isn't enough money to get a game changing player. Best next option is to bring your own back if you can't upgrade.

I don't see Butler making the difference but it'd be nice.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

We better not sign Pepe Sanchez. Let's go with Chucky Atkins. :)

[AFBlue]

I agree. They are in the "tweener" market and their just isn't enough money to get a game changing player. Best next option is to bring your own back if you can't upgrade.

I don't see Butler making the difference but it'd be nice.

I'm pretty sure Butler will be in the Summer League this year and I wouldn't be suprised to see him dominate. I'd equate the Summer League competition to D-League or CBA, and he blew up the latter.

I just think that if he stays motivated and in shape, there is a considerable amount of upside and talent to admire.

The main reason I see him as a difference-maker is that the Spurs are in need of a low-post scorer when Duncan rests, and he has the ability to fill that role.

If he busts out in the Summer League and training camp, I think he could take over Elson's spot in the rotation and be a contributor next year.

But, I guess you could say I'm optimistic... :lol

[T Park]

He did just those things in the last couple games of the year, against gasol, Reggie Evans and some other good bigs.

Don't see why he couldn't do it against the rest of the league's back up big men.

[O-Factor]

I trust whatever Pop is doing

[Cherry]

thats good, 'cause if I remember correctly we were one stupid Manu foul away from sending your sorry asses packing. That Manu foul won't save you again sweetheart.


:lol :toast

[angel_luv]

Oberto has re-signed for a three-year deal. Vaughn got two-years and $2.5M (veteran's minimum).

More information should be coming shortly . . .


:tu

[baseline bum]

I'm big on the Vaughn re-signing. Having a reliable distributor who plays defense as a backup point is huge.

I'm with you. He wasn't the automatic and-1 against quick PGs that Van Exel and Udrih were last year. I'd still love to get someone on par with Claxton '03, but the team could do a lot worse than Vaughn.

[Axl Van Dam]

hmmmmm, where's bonner's name? His signing is looking less and less the longer we here he has not signed. The spurs showed who was a priority and who was not!

:wakeup I say let Bonner walk and sign Marvin Williams. We need youth on the wings. :wakeup

[SpursFanInAustin]

:wakeup I say let Bonner walk and sign Marvin Williams. We need youth on the wings. :wakeup

Ain't Marvin Williams under contract?

[SpursFanInAustin]

I'm happy these two are back. Definitely keeps the cohesion and chemistry together for another year.

[Axl Van Dam]

Ain't Marvin Williams under contract?

:smokin I meant Marcus Williams. My bad. :smokin

[Gros Membres!]

I'm big on the Vaughn re-signing. Having a reliable distributor who plays defense as a backup point is huge.
I like this signing a lot and love that it was for the vet minimum. I think it just shows Vaughn's desire to be a stalwart on this team and his play will be a valuable part of repeating next year. In other words, he still needs to step his game up and keep Tony rested throughout the regular season grind.

First year in the system, Vaughn held his own, especially defensively. I've heard various Spurs say it takes a few years to really feel comfortable in their system. I look forward to seeing if there will be any sort of progression with Vaugh's decision making with scorers are on the floor and finding more consistency with the jumper after one year of playing with them and winning a championship. Unlike Beno, I think he's up to the task.

I may eat my words later.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

The Spurs reached agreement Tuesday with forward Matt Bonner, the last of the three free agents they hoped to re-sign, on a three-year contract worth about $9 million.

"Matt always wanted to stay with the Spurs, so he's very excited to be coming back," said Kenny Grant, Bonner's agent.

The Spurs also have reached agreements with center Fabricio Oberto (three years, $10.5 million) and Jacque Vaughn (two years, $2.5 million). Free agents can't sign contracts until July 11.

[Darkwaters]

3.5M per year for 3 years. Thats very reasonable. Especially if the final year is an option. I love getting the hometown discount.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

So do the resignings of Oberto, Vaughn, and Big Red mean the 2008 master plan is no more?

[K-State Spur]

So do the resignings of Oberto, Vaughn, and Big Red mean the 2008 master plan is no more?

Why? None of these are significant cap eaters. Still a lot of room under the cap for next season.

[wildchild]

...Sunday, the newspaper Memphis Commercial Appeal, published the interest of Memphis by Oberto and added that that equipment already had tried its draftee in 2005 when the Cordovan signed in the Spurs.

I listened to this before :rolleyes .And the Mavs offer.Rumours sucks! Master plan 2008 too!

To Vaughn and Oberto :toast

[timvp]

Fabricio Oberto re-signs with San Antonio (three years, $10.5 million)
Short-term B, long-term A
Retaining Oberto is nice, but it doesn't really move the dial much compared to the signings of players like Lewis and Carter. Where this deal really pays off is in the following years. Look at the deals that other teams are giving to quality big men; heck, look at the deal second-tier perimeter players are getting.

Oberto's contract is much more reasonable than those, continuing the Spurs' trend of being an oasis of fiscal sanity in these otherwise crazy times. That's going to pay huge dividends next summer, because depending on what the '08 cap figure comes in at, the Spurs could have enough cap space to go above the midlevel exception in pursuit of other free agents -- in what appears, at the moment, to be a loaded free agent class.


Jacque Vaughn re-signs with San Antonio (two years, $2.5 million)
Short-term B, long-term B+
A rotation player for a championship team signing for the league minimum? Believe it. Vaughn is likely to come back in the same role as he did a year ago, and by not splurging on a backup point guard the Spurs have more dough available to go after higher-priority needs. The only way this comes back to bite them is if Tony Parker has an extended injury absence.