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mavs>spurs2

07-07-2007, 05:25 PM

SpursDynasty

07-07-2007, 05:27 PM

If they offer Howard and Terry, they can land a big name. Howard isn't as good as everyone makes him out to be.

mavs>spurs2

07-07-2007, 05:39 PM

If they offer Howard and Terry, they can land a big name. Howard isn't as good as everyone makes him out to be.

I'm not sure if Howard and Terry is enough to land KG, but if it is i'd do it in a heartbeat. Howard is an all star, KG is a superstar. One of the top 5-6 players in the league, Howard is maybe top 25-30. As much as I love Howard, it's something that would have to be done if the situation came up.

monosylab1k

07-07-2007, 06:06 PM

I'm not sure if Howard and Terry is enough to land KG, but if it is i'd do it in a heartbeat. Howard is an all star, KG is a superstar. One of the top 5-6 players in the league, Howard is maybe top 25-30. As much as I love Howard, it's something that would have to be done if the situation came up.

i'd like this too, but at the same time, getting rid of both howard and terry completely eliminates our perimeter game. Other than Dirk, we'd have zero consistent outside shooters (unless we're depending on Nick Fazekas *snicker*). And while it's best to play inside out, we still have to have some sort of outside shooting threat. Honestly, I'd do a Howard/Harris trade before I'd do a Howard/Terry.

mavs>spurs2

07-07-2007, 06:14 PM

i'd like this too, but at the same time, getting rid of both howard and terry completely eliminates our perimeter game. Other than Dirk, we'd have zero consistent outside shooters (unless we're depending on Nick Fazekas *snicker*). And while it's best to play inside out, we still have to have some sort of outside shooting threat. Honestly, I'd do a Howard/Harris trade before I'd do a Howard/Terry.

Yea I feel the same way, but I figured the mav fans here would throw me to the wolves if I suggested giving up Harris and Howard. How many years are we going to have to wait before Harris has his breakout season? Isn't this going to be his 4th year?

SpursDynasty

07-07-2007, 06:46 PM

I thought Devin Harris' breakout season was the 2006 series vs the Spurs? It was the year the Spurs passed the torch to the Mavs :lol

mavs>spurs2

07-07-2007, 06:50 PM

mav fans discuss

Mr.Bottomtooth

07-07-2007, 07:01 PM

Yea come on, SpursDynasty. Let's at least be civilized in this thread.

dirk4mvp

07-07-2007, 07:06 PM

I thought Devin Harris' breakout season was the 2006 series vs the Spurs? It was the year the Spurs passed the torch to the Mavs :lol

he almost caught a rape charge during that series.

stretch

07-07-2007, 07:43 PM

So i've heard just about everything from the mavs tryin to move Terry, trying to sign Gerald Wallace, all the way to trying to land KG. What do you guys think realistically should be their next move? I say we need to address low post scoring first and foremost. As much as I hate to say it, i'd love to somehow land Randolph. Someone help me here, who all is available to address this problem via free agency or otherwise? Mav fans discuss.
getting randolph would be nice, but where would he fit? both him and dirk cant play either the 3, or center. they are both 4's. we need a low post threat to be on the floor at the same time as dirk.

21GoSpursGo9

07-07-2007, 07:47 PM

getting randolph would be nice, but where would he fit? both him and dirk cant play either the 3, or center. they are both 4's. we need a low post threat to be on the floor at the same time as dirk.

I am just throwing names out here but what about Jamal Maglore (spelling?) or possibly Darko?

Findog

07-07-2007, 08:08 PM

Not interested in Randolph's lack of defense or the $84 million left on his contract. I would much rather see Desmond Mason brought in for the midlevel and go to war with what we have. Next year's free agent crop is better, Finley and Bradley's dead money comes off the books, and if there's another disappointing playoff finish, THAT would be the ideal time to make changes, not this year.

I loved the Jason Richardson trade, some of the mismatch problems against the Warriors are gone now.

mavs>spurs2

07-07-2007, 08:53 PM

getting randolph would be nice, but where would he fit? both him and dirk cant play either the 3, or center. they are both 4's. we need a low post threat to be on the floor at the same time as dirk.

Only problem with that is that our inside scoring will have to come from the center position. Good centers are hard to come by these days.

mavs>spurs2

07-07-2007, 08:59 PM

What we really need is for Dirk to quit being a pansy, hit the weights, and develop a low post game this summer. A power forward should be able to score in the low post. And the odds of us getting a center that can score inside are unlikely.

confined

07-07-2007, 10:28 PM

how about we keep the same team and not play the warriors in the first round...seriously we were a warrior loss or a clipper victory away from another trip to the WCF

mavs>spurs2

07-07-2007, 10:34 PM

SpursDynasty

07-07-2007, 11:30 PM

Or how bout we address our problems so we actually WIN a championship this year? What we've been doing hasn't been working, we have no titles to show for it, so don't you think it's time we address the problem that's been holding us back for years? We have absolutely NO LOW POST SCORING.

The Mavs just need to stop being a fake team. They sure "make" themselves look good while not actually being great.

Dirk for Kobe. What's the worst that can happen? Kobe doesn't want to be in LA, and Kobe will only help Dallas improve.

Dirk might not win the Lakers a championship, but better than having a disgruntled Kobe out there...

mavs>spurs2

07-07-2007, 11:37 PM

I don't think Kobe would help our low post scoring problem.

Mr.Bottomtooth

07-07-2007, 11:39 PM

:lol

confined

07-07-2007, 11:45 PM

I don't think Kobe would help our low post scoring problem.

The mismatches dirk gives the spurs would be gone...put kobe in a mavs uniform and we never get by the spurs again...and where then is there a low post player available?...randolph certainly isn't after being delt to new york...i wouldnt give howard for him and i don't see who else the knicks would want...i'd give up terry, but they already have marbury...a few little tweaks and we're right back in this thing, or a garnett trade (which i hope happens)

mavs>spurs2

07-07-2007, 11:49 PM

According to SpursDynasty all we need to do is trade for Kobe, put him on Human Growth hormone, and after he grows to 7ft tall theres our low post scoring problem solved.

SpursDynasty

07-08-2007, 10:15 AM

The mismatches dirk gives the spurs would be gone...put kobe in a mavs uniform and we never get by the spurs again...and where then is there a low post player available?...randolph certainly isn't after being delt to new york...i wouldnt give howard for him and i don't see who else the knicks would want...i'd give up terry, but they already have marbury...a few little tweaks and we're right back in this thing, or a garnett trade (which i hope happens)

I think Dallas needs to worry about teams like the Miami Heat and Warriors, before they worry about the Spurs....

You can get by the Spurs every year for a decade and it wouldn't matter if you can't beat your NBA Finals opponent.

monosylab1k

07-08-2007, 11:09 AM

I think Dallas needs to worry about teams like the Miami Heat and Warriors, before they worry about the Spurs....

You can get by the Spurs every year for a decade and it wouldn't matter if you can't beat your NBA Finals opponent.

Did SpursDynasty just unwittingly admit that the Spurs are no threat to the Mavericks?

mavs>spurs2

07-08-2007, 01:53 PM

Did SpursDynasty just unwittingly admit that the Spurs are no threat to the Mavericks?

:lol

dallaskd

07-08-2007, 03:54 PM

I expect them to sign Pj Brown and lay low for the rest of the FA period.

dallaskd

07-08-2007, 04:48 PM

Jason Terry: The Jet is not someone the Mavericks want to trade, but the time is coming for Devin Harris and the Mavericks may need to cash in a piece to regain some depth. Word is the Mavericks have put their hat in the Kevin Garnett race and there is continued talk that Dallas would love to get Pau Gasol if he is genuinely available. If Dallas is going to make a change, and after winning 60 plus games last year they may not need to, Jason Terry looks like the guy they will deal.

http://www.hoopsworld.com/article_22617.shtml

mavs>spurs2

07-08-2007, 05:02 PM

Moving Terry would be a mistake, there would go all our outside shooting. Howard isn't consistent enough to be a serious outside threat.

coachmac87

07-08-2007, 05:04 PM

i bet the mavs get desmond mason or somehow land wallace

mavs>spurs2

07-08-2007, 05:21 PM

i bet the mavs get desmond mason or somehow land wallace

Wouldn't solve many problems. What we really need is low post scoring and perimeter defense, primarily from the guard positions. Unless we moved howard to the 2 and started Wallace or Mason at the 3.

big3bigD

07-08-2007, 07:19 PM

Wouldn't solve many problems. What we really need is low post scoring and perimeter defense, primarily from the guard positions. Unless we moved howard to the 2 and started Wallace or Mason at the 3.

what's wrong with keeping Howard at the 3 and putting Wallace as the 2? although both players can play both positions, those are their primary spots.

mavs>spurs2

07-08-2007, 07:41 PM

what's wrong with keeping Howard at the 3 and putting Wallace as the 2? although both players can play both positions, those are their primary spots.

Nothing, but I thought Wallace was longer and a better rebounder, which makes him more suited for the SF position.

Holmes_Fans

07-08-2007, 07:55 PM

Moving Terry would be a mistake, there would go all our outside shooting. Howard isn't consistent enough to be a serious outside threat.
If we had a dominant inside threat then it would open the outside. Really, how often is damp or diop double teamed in the paint? Someone would HAVE to come off and guard KG leaving someone wide open.

SpursDynasty

07-09-2007, 08:54 AM

Did SpursDynasty just unwittingly admit that the Spurs are no threat to the Mavericks?

Nope, I'm just saying, you have to beat who's on your schedule. Beating the Spurs in 2006 has done no good for Dallas.

Findog

07-09-2007, 09:02 AM

I think Dallas' next offseason move is to fire Donnie Nelson and hire either MrChug or SpursDynasty.

MrChug would sign Nick Van Exel. SpursDynasty would dismantle the team and bring in a bunch of D-Leaguers.

Mr Chug:

1) Sign Nick Van Exel
2)
3) Championship!

SpursDynasty:

1) Buy out Dirk, Josh, Jet, Avery, Dampier, Diop and Devin
2)
3) Championship!

SpursDynasty

07-09-2007, 09:24 AM

I would trade out Howard and Terry for Garnett.

Big Three of Garnett, Stackhouse, and Devin Harris, with Dirk coming off the bench.

Findog

07-09-2007, 09:34 AM

I would trade out Howard and Terry for Garnett.

Big Three of Garnett, Stackhouse, and Devin Harris, with Dirk coming off the bench.

Fuckin' A Jeff. Fuckin' A. Mavs would run the table at 82-0 by reducing Dirk to 20 MPG for situational purposes only.

dirk4mvp

07-09-2007, 09:36 AM

I would trade out Howard and Terry for Garnett.

Big Three of Garnett, Stackhouse, and Devin Harris, with Dirk coming off the bench.

:lol

dallaskd

07-09-2007, 09:51 AM

I would trade out Howard and Terry for Garnett.

Big Three of Garnett, Stackhouse, and Devin Harris, with Dirk coming off the bench.

please roll over and die.

dallaskd

07-10-2007, 02:32 PM

spursreport

07-10-2007, 02:42 PM

This would be my ideal situation. Trade Terry and Buckner for Gerald Wallace. Sign Chris Webber and Dee Brown. That leaves us with this...

PG – Harris, Brown, Barea
SG – Wallace, Stackhouse, Ager
SF – Howard, George, Terry
PF – Nowitzki, Webber, Fazekas
C – Dampier, Diop, Mbenga

Thats a really solid team IMO and the toughest/best team we would have in a while

Its going to take a little more than 2 players over 30 with long term contracts to pry Wallace away assuming he doesnt stay with the Bobcats. Webber is done. Add to the fact that those moves still wont solve the Mavs low post scoring problems.

Mr.Bottomtooth

07-10-2007, 02:49 PM

This would be my ideal situation. Trade Terry and Buckner for Gerald Wallace. Sign Chris Webber and Dee Brown. That leaves us with this...

PG – Harris, Brown, Barea
SG – Wallace, Stackhouse, Ager
SF – Howard, George, Terry
PF – Nowitzki, Webber, Fazekas
C – Dampier, Diop, Mbenga

Thats a really solid team IMO and the toughest/best team we would have in a while
They'd definitely be the championship favorites with that team.

dickface

07-10-2007, 02:52 PM

This would be my ideal situation. Trade Terry and Buckner for Gerald Wallace. Sign Chris Webber and Dee Brown. That leaves us with this...

PG – Harris, Brown, Barea
SG – Wallace, Stackhouse, Ager
SF – Howard, George, Terry
PF – Nowitzki, Webber, Fazekas
C – Dampier, Diop, Mbenga

Thats a really solid team IMO and the toughest/best team we would have in a while

getting Webber would only solidify your status as the biggest chokers ever.