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Solid D
07-23-2007, 04:48 PM
Per The Ticket 760
CubanMustGo
07-23-2007, 04:48 PM
James White !?!?!?!?!
Aggie Hoopsfan
07-23-2007, 04:49 PM
Ime Udoka, come on down...
Tobias
07-23-2007, 04:49 PM
whaaaaaaaattttttt!!!
Spurstalk suicide watch!
thispego
07-23-2007, 04:49 PM
lame
timvp
07-23-2007, 04:51 PM
Sad. :depressed
No slam dunk champion on the Spurs next season.
Kori Ellis
07-23-2007, 04:51 PM
SPURS WAIVE JAMES WHITE
SAN ANTONIO – The San Antonio Spurs announced today that they have waived guard/forward James White.
White joined the Spurs as a free agent on November 3, 2006. He appeared in six games, averaging 8.3 points and 3.3 rebounds in 22.8 minutes per game. The former University of Cincinnati Bearcat made his NBA debut on March 26 at Golden State where he finished with nine points and three rebounds in 15 minutes.
White spent part of the season with Austin Toros of the NBA Development League where he saw action in 15 games, averaging 16.3 points, 4.0 rebounds and 3.1 assists.
cornbread
07-23-2007, 04:51 PM
There's goes all of our hope for a Slam Dunk Champion.
timvp
07-23-2007, 04:52 PM
James White!
(One final time.)
Solid D
07-23-2007, 04:53 PM
:lol
MoSpur
07-23-2007, 04:53 PM
I am sad, but they did it for obvious reasons.
CubanMustGo
07-23-2007, 04:54 PM
I am sad, but they did it for obvious reasons.
$100,000 of them.
Spurminator
07-23-2007, 04:55 PM
http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/4937/whiteemowl4.jpg
One more time.
timvp
07-23-2007, 04:55 PM
I know White sucked in summer league but I thought White played really well in real NBA games. Although it was far from playoff competition, White looked about as good as a rookie could look after sitting out the first 75 games of the season.
But yeah, a lot of this is on White for not showing up to summer league ready to play defense. Even so, this is going to be hard to swallow unless someone like Udoka is brought aboard.
Hopefully it's not that the Spurs have decided Marcus Williams > James White.
Solid D
07-23-2007, 04:55 PM
Melzer played better than James White in the SL, by and large.
SenorSpur
07-23-2007, 04:56 PM
WTF? I don't get this. With 1 year under his belt, I thought the organization wanted to develop this guy.
Those who have watched the summer league games, please weigh in on this questions. Did White look totally unproductive during these games? Did Marcus Williams outshine White?
All I know is they better have Udoka signed, sealed and ready to be delivered.
whottt
07-23-2007, 04:56 PM
$100,000 of them.
You beat me to it.
whottt
07-23-2007, 04:56 PM
So does this mean Marcus Williams made the team?
MoSpur
07-23-2007, 04:56 PM
They need to trade Beno and Barry next to bring in the new guys.
ducks
07-23-2007, 04:56 PM
maybe Udoka made a decsion
whottt
07-23-2007, 04:57 PM
WTF? I don't get this. With 1 year under his belt, I thought the organization wanted to develop this guy.
Those who have watched the summer league games, please weigh in on this questions. Did White look totally unproductive during these games? Did Marcus Williams outshine White?
All I know is they better have Udoka signed, sealed and ready to be delivered.
Hey...the Spurs cut Romaine Sato and survived...they'll survive the loss of James White too.
degenerate_gambler
07-23-2007, 04:58 PM
WTF? I don't get this. With 1 year under his belt, I thought the organization wanted to develop this guy.
what the hell?
some guys aren't NBA material, simple as that.
timvp
07-23-2007, 04:58 PM
Did White look totally unproductive during these games?His defense was bad and he tried to score in one-on-one situations too much.
Did Marcus Williams outshine White?No way. Williams was perhaps the worst player on the summer league team.
MoSpur
07-23-2007, 04:58 PM
The Spurs are weird like that sometimes.
Obstructed_View
07-23-2007, 04:58 PM
Hopefully it's not that the Spurs have decided CJ Watson > James White.
FIFY. :)
MoSpur
07-23-2007, 04:59 PM
I agree with TIMVP. White did great in NBA games. I don't think SL is the only way to judge players. Someone has got to be on the way.
Bruno
07-23-2007, 05:00 PM
I think that Udoka will sign with Spurs soon.
Spurs have waived White ten days before the deadline and the same day grizzlies have signed Jacobsen...
timvp
07-23-2007, 05:00 PM
$100,000 of them.That Most Economic Front Office Trophy is going to look nice next to the four championship trophies.
:hungry:
SenorSpur
07-23-2007, 05:00 PM
Even if they do sign Udoka, it will buy them some time. However they still need to find a young developing swing player. Either next year or the year after.
However if they do not sing Udoka, then they're back to square one.
mardigan
07-23-2007, 05:01 PM
James White!!
:depressed
Budkin
07-23-2007, 05:03 PM
What I was most looking forward to this season was the development of our young talent in Jackie Butler and James White and now they are both gone, continuing one of the shittiest Spurs offseasons ever.
judaspriestess
07-23-2007, 05:04 PM
Ba-Bye!!
I'm sure he will find a home elsewhere very quickly. Best wishes to him.
timvp
07-23-2007, 05:05 PM
Why would the Spurs do this a week ahead of the August 1st deadline if they didn't have something else (Udoka) lined up? Then again, not much this offseason has made sense.
MoSpur
07-23-2007, 05:06 PM
It better not be ONLY because of the money because he didn't cost them that much. Someone better be on the way.
Solid D
07-23-2007, 05:10 PM
Don Newman put the warning out earlier in Ludden's article on 7/11/07 when he said...
"I didn't think he stepped up to the physicality of the summer league," Newman said. "He has to be a better defender. He has to be more hard-nosed on the floor. He can't react to every play. ...
"I think if he's going to make it on this team he has to step it up."
timvp
07-23-2007, 05:11 PM
You'd think that if the Spurs were trimming fat off their roster, Beno would have been target number one going into the offseason.
Guess not.
Solid D
07-23-2007, 05:12 PM
I still don't think Beno will have the same locker in 2007-08.
Obstructed_View
07-23-2007, 05:13 PM
He plays a position of need. If there were any chance that the coach wasn't going to squash his spirit at every opportunity it would be a sensible move to keep him. As it is, I agree. They should be trading him for cash or something.
timvp
07-23-2007, 05:15 PM
Don Newman put the warning out earlier in Ludden's article on 7/11/07 when he said...
"I didn't think he stepped up to the physicality of the summer league," Newman said. "He has to be a better defender. He has to be more hard-nosed on the floor. He can't react to every play. ...
"I think if he's going to make it on this team he has to step it up."I blame Don Newman partly for White sucking. Newman had the worst rotations I've ever seen. It reminded me of peewee ball when players would sub out every other dead ball.
Pop better never get ejected this season.
Borosai
07-23-2007, 05:18 PM
There is no god, there is no justice, there is no mercy. :depressed
R.I.P. James White!
batman2883
07-23-2007, 05:20 PM
Stupid Mofo Move
djohn14
07-23-2007, 05:21 PM
I'm mad right now, but I'll be over it in a day or so. Good luck James.
wildbill2u
07-23-2007, 05:34 PM
There is no god, there is no justice, there is no mercy. :depressed
R.I.P. James White!
Man, I've seen fans obsess over players they like, but get a grip. I only felt that bad when they traded Silas and Gervin and some other stud players.
Marcus Bryant
07-23-2007, 05:35 PM
Why would the Spurs do this a week ahead of the August 1st deadline if they didn't have something else (Udoka) lined up? Then again, not much this offseason has made sense.
Cut him now and save $400K or whatever it was. RC can pontificate on how the Spurs were doing him a favor by giving him a chance to latch on with another club.
Marcus Bryant
07-23-2007, 05:36 PM
You'd think that if the Spurs were trimming fat off their roster, Beno would have been target number one going into the offseason.
Guess not.
Udrih will be gone once Ferry decides he can do no better.
justanotherspursfan
07-23-2007, 05:37 PM
That Most Economic Front Office Trophy is going to look nice next to the four championship trophies.
:hungry:
I don't know. Steve Kerr set a pretty high bar with the two first rounders he traded just to help dispose of a key rotation player.
Marcus Bryant
07-23-2007, 05:38 PM
I don't know. Steve Kerr set a pretty high bar with the two first rounders he traded just to help dispose of a key rotation player.
Kerr did that to save $17 mil.
Solid D
07-23-2007, 05:43 PM
Pop better never get ejected this season.
I think Mike Bud is next in line.
jmard5
07-23-2007, 05:43 PM
Oh well. I was also hoping that they will develop White.
Spurs Brazil
07-23-2007, 05:46 PM
I think that Udoka will sign with Spurs soon.
Spurs have waived White ten days before the deadline and the same day grizzlies have signed Jacobsen...
Did Jacobsen got a guaranteed contract?
How many guarantee contracts Grizzilies have?
yavozerb
07-23-2007, 05:47 PM
James white would have done nothing this year for the spurs. I do not believe he would have gotten much better in another or year or more (he can slam a b-ball, that is it). Spurs FO must believe williams up-side is much greater than white's to do move like this. As mentioned this will open a forward spot for udoka. Not sure how this would effect Ian for next season?
timvp
07-23-2007, 05:47 PM
I think Mike Bud is next in line.I would pay for Mike Bud to get ejected. I don't think I've ever seen him mad in his 17 years with the Spurs.
:hat
yavozerb
07-23-2007, 05:49 PM
Finley-Manu-Barry
Bowen-Udoka
Phenomanul
07-23-2007, 05:52 PM
:depressed
timvp
07-23-2007, 05:53 PM
$100,000!
jdaveah
07-23-2007, 05:54 PM
I haven't heard alot of consideration of this possibility, but I think it's entirely possible that the Spurs don't carry 15 on their roster. We had fewer than this in season's past and people have just been assuming that with White we'd hit 15 since the spots are so tough to get, but at this point MAYBE we sign a swing like Udoka and then have Williams and MAYBE Watson inactive. It really wouldn't shock me to have 13 or 14 on the roster.
yavozerb
07-23-2007, 05:56 PM
How muc would the following contracts cost if signed this year:
Williams
Mahinmi
Sanikidze
Despot
07-23-2007, 06:23 PM
Maybe White was part of the point shaving scandal in the SL.
ploto
07-23-2007, 06:33 PM
Spurs don't need to waive White to sign Udoka. They have plenty of opportunity to get rid of him during the season and it not count toward the luxury tax. I think they picked Williams over White as the young guy to keep around.
SenorSpur
07-23-2007, 06:34 PM
Spurs don't need to waive White to sign Udoka. They have plenty of opportunity to get rid of him during the season and it not count toward the luxury tax. I think they picked Williams over White as the young guy to keep around.
So why now?
Bruno
07-23-2007, 06:34 PM
$200,000!
Fixed.
White contract would have been $200K if he wasn't waived before October 1st.
It would have cost $200K (+ the luxury tax) to evaluate White during the training camp.
timvp
07-23-2007, 06:41 PM
It would have cost $200K (+ the luxury tax) to evaluate White during the training camp.Exactly. That's nothing. The Spurs have paid scrubs like James Thomas guaranteed money to come to camp.
Signing Udoka would make the waiving of White make more sense. But if the Spurs are waiving White just to pinch pennies, that's pretty risk. If (*knock on wood*) one of the swingmen were to get injured during training camp, are there other options out there for the minimum better and more prepared to play for the Spurs than James White?
Doubt it.
Findog
07-23-2007, 06:42 PM
Scola, Butler and White -- San Antonio just gave away another 5 titles. They were to be the next generation Dynasty after Duncan.
Discuss.
RC's Boss
07-23-2007, 06:45 PM
Scola, Butler and White -- San Antonio just gave away another 5 titles. They were to be the next generation Dynasty after Duncan.
Discuss.
no
Findog
07-23-2007, 06:46 PM
no
Really? Those guys were all franchise players in the making, blue-chippers, if you will. I thought you guys were gonna make a run at the Celtics and Lakers with that crew.
Darkwaters
07-23-2007, 06:46 PM
It seems we have have an absolute ton of open roster spots compared to a short while ago. Hopefully that means that we can ink some cheap players with upside. What about a guy like Rich Melzer to fill our roster out with? I'd love to bring Linton Johnson III back in and give him an actual opportunity to play. How about another PG
Darkwaters
07-23-2007, 06:48 PM
Really? Those guys were all franchise players in the making, blue-chippers, if you will. I thought you guys were gonna make a run at the Celtics and Lakers with that crew.
I'm glad to see that Nash, Nowitzki, Finley and Jamison worked out for you. The same with Nowitzki, Terry, Howard and Harris.
I must have lost count, how many rings are you on now?
Findog
07-23-2007, 06:52 PM
I'm glad to see that Nash, Nowitzki, Finley and Jamison worked out for you. The same with Nowitzki, Terry, Howard and Harris.
I must have lost count, how many rings are you on now?
Well, seeing as how Scola, Butler and White >>>>> Nash, Nowitzki, Finley and Jamison, can you blame us for having none?
spursreport
07-23-2007, 06:53 PM
I'm glad to see that Nash, Nowitzki, Finley and Jamison worked out for you. The same with Nowitzki, Terry, Howard and Harris.
I must have lost count, how many rings are you on now?
Hey Findog has every right to talk shit. His team won 67 games, won the division, and unlike the Spurs lost/choked in the finals.
Marcus Bryant
07-23-2007, 06:57 PM
Exactly. That's nothing. The Spurs have paid scrubs like James Thomas guaranteed money to come to camp.
Signing Udoka would make the waiving of White make more sense. But if the Spurs are waiving White just to pinch pennies, that's pretty risk. If (*knock on wood*) one of the swingmen were to get injured during training camp, are there other options out there for the minimum better and more prepared to play for the Spurs than James White?
Doubt it.
Nothing would surprise me at this point.
Darkwaters
07-23-2007, 07:00 PM
Nothing would surprise me at this point.
How about the Spurs signing Shawn Bradley to play backup PG?
sa_kid20
07-23-2007, 07:02 PM
Scola, Butler and White -- San Antonio just gave away another 5 titles. They were to be the next generation Dynasty after Duncan.
Discuss.
i don't know about that but DAMN i wanted to see James White in the dunk contest wearing that silver and black. that would've been great
:bang
yavozerb
07-23-2007, 07:05 PM
I do not think the spurs wanted to pay the guy 400K to win a slam dunk contest!!Just my opinion, but I could be wrong..
mardigan
07-23-2007, 07:06 PM
So the Spurs cut White, Grizz sign Jacobsen, does that mean Udoka?
Solid D
07-23-2007, 07:09 PM
Finley 6-7
Bowen 6-7
Ginobili 6-6
Barry 6-6
(Udoka 6-5)
Will the Spurs, once again, enter the upcoming season with no wing players taller than 6-7? That is, other than maybe Zarko Sanikidze?
Spurs Brazil
07-23-2007, 07:13 PM
In the meantime:
*Still no word on free agent Ime Udoka. San Antonio and Memphis reportedly are still pursuing the small forward from Portland, but nothing has been finalized. Multiple calls to Udoka's agent, Erin Cowan, have not been returned so who knows how imminent a deal is. Something is supposed to get done this week ... of course, something was rumored to be in the works last week, too.
http://blog.oregonlive.com/behindblazersbeat/2007/07/blake_udoka_and_rudy_fernandez.html
SequSpur
07-23-2007, 07:17 PM
james white sucks. its quite simple. so does bonner.. so does williams, so does beno. I don't understand why u yardbirds waste your time on buckets of shit all the time. there are only 8 guys that matter and the rest are like the big lego that doesn't mean shit. wtf? over.
Solid D
07-23-2007, 07:25 PM
james white sucks. its quite simple. so does bonner.. so does williams, so does beno. I don't understand why u yardbirds waste your time on buckets of shit all the time. there are only 8 guys that matter and the rest are like the big lego that doesn't mean shit. wtf? over.
I'm assuming Bonner is in your group of 8 guys.
:spin
yavozerb
07-23-2007, 07:38 PM
Finley 6-7
Bowen 6-7
Ginobili 6-6
Barry 6-6
(Udoka 6-5)
Will the Spurs, once again, enter the upcoming season with no wing players taller than 6-7? That is, other than maybe Zarko Sanikidze?
They still did pretty well from what I can remember...
Borosai
07-23-2007, 07:40 PM
Man, I've seen fans obsess over players they like, but get a grip. I only felt that bad when they traded Silas and Gervin and some other stud players.
:pctoss :madrun :pctoss :madrun :pctoss :madrun :pctoss
inconvertible
07-23-2007, 08:51 PM
good bye flight...you have no buisness on this team, cuz we like to play b-ball under the rim.....that how we do it.
smrattler
07-23-2007, 08:59 PM
He just doesn't fit here. You watch, he'll go to GSW and be the sparkplug off the bench that beats us in 7 months.
wildbill2u
07-23-2007, 09:05 PM
Scola, Butler and White -- San Antonio just gave away another 5 titles. They were to be the next generation Dynasty after Duncan.
Discuss.
Apparently our professionals in the FO didn't see the future in these guys.
Finley 6-7
Bowen 6-7
Ginobili 6-6
Barry 6-6
(Udoka 6-5)
Will the Spurs, once again, enter the upcoming season with no wing players taller than 6-7? That is, other than maybe Zarko Sanikidze?
They need a 6-8 wing because.....
jay014
07-23-2007, 09:37 PM
Sad. :depressed
No slam dunk champion on the Spurs next season. you have to play to be invited besides we have a slam dunk champion in Brent Barry.
jay014
07-23-2007, 09:47 PM
Spurs don't need to waive White to sign Udoka. They have plenty of opportunity to get rid of him during the season and it not count toward the luxury tax. I think they picked Williams over White as the young guy to keep around.
williams will be gone when the season starts and james white will be resigned (if they didn't waive him his contract would've been fully guaranteed) for training camp and he too will be cut again before the season starts.
itzsoweezee
07-23-2007, 09:54 PM
lame
once again, the front office is a bunch of cheap bitches
itzsoweezee
07-23-2007, 09:57 PM
They need a 6-8 wing because.....
because finley and barry are old and pretty much done.
xmas1997
07-23-2007, 09:59 PM
I think White just got into a numbers crunch!
Had this been 2008, rather than 2007, and all the retirings and open roster spots, I bet he would have been kept and developed further.
He was at the wrong place at the wrong time!
Solid D
07-23-2007, 10:01 PM
They need a 6-8 wing because.....
For the past several years, the Spurs have searched to find an athletic swingman, preferably someone big enough to play either forward position against teams that play small. Coach Pop has stated his desire to bring in someone that is long enough play 3 or 4, a "Derrick McKey type of player". Last summer the Spurs brought in some 6-8 to 6-10 SFs, such as Rich Melzer and Britton Johnsen. They were hoping Viktor or James White might fill that need. Someone long enough to defend someone on the perimeter like a Dirk Nowitzki. Matt Barnes sort of matches up as does Boris Diaw, for that matter.
The Spurs didn't need a "Long 3" last year nor in '05 in order to win a championship. They could have used one against Dallas in May of '06. The Spurs just want one Long 3. Now, do you remember?
ShoogarBear
07-23-2007, 10:04 PM
http://images.blogthings.com/whatemoticonbestrepresentsyourightnowquiz/sad.jpg
ShoogarBear
07-23-2007, 10:05 PM
the big lego
WTF? :lol
SenorSpur
07-23-2007, 10:19 PM
I'm starting to wonder if they'll ever find a fit for the swingman position - at least someone the FO is comfortable with anyway.
Oink Oink
07-23-2007, 10:24 PM
James white what could have been :cry :cry :depressed
jay014
07-23-2007, 11:05 PM
:
James white what could have been :cry :cry :depressed :cheer on the end of the bench.
Marcus Bryant
07-23-2007, 11:06 PM
I think White just got into a numbers crunch!
Had this been 2008, rather than 2007, and all the retirings and open roster spots, I bet he would have been kept and developed further.
He was at the wrong place at the wrong time!
If the "numbers" you speak of are not measured in roster spots but $ then you might be correct.
milkyway21
07-23-2007, 11:41 PM
Francisco Elson 31
Fabricio Oberto 32
Matt Bonner 27
Tim Duncan 31
Robert Horry 36
Bruce Bowen 36
Tony Parker 25
Beno Udrih 25
Jacque Vaughn 32
Brent Barry 35
Michael Finley 34
Manu Ginobili 29
ave. age =31.
w/Beno & Bonner almost not getting any minutes.
wow:wow I love the Spurs.
It's like the home for the aged in the NBA :lol
gone:
Vassilis Spanoulis 25
James Butler 22
James White 24
RuffnReadyOzStyle
07-23-2007, 11:58 PM
Another young bites the dust... (sing it like Freddy Mercury)
koopa
07-24-2007, 12:20 AM
Francisco Elson 31
Fabricio Oberto 32
Matt Bonner 27
Tim Duncan 31
Robert Horry 36
Bruce Bowen 36
Tony Parker 25
Beno Udrih 25
Jacque Vaughn 32
Brent Barry 35
Michael Finley 34
Manu Ginobili 29
ave. age =31.
w/Beno & Bonner almost not getting any minutes.
wow:wow I love the Spurs.
It's like the home for the aged in the NBA :lol
gone:
Vassilis Spanoulis 25
James Butler 22
James White 24
spanoulis was never here so you can't really put him on that list lol
sometimes we all cry about youth, but look at all the young teams, what have they done??? the spurs front office seem to know what they are doing, we'll get our youth movement in 2008-2009 season, but for now we just all have to get over the fact that we won't have that much youth
and if matt didn't fuck up his mcl he would've been playing more down the stretch, he just missed out at the wrong time, cause when he was gone is when the spurs started to gel, but before then he was playing pretty good mins and producing, so i think he'll be good for us next year especially since i think horry will be the nba's roger clemens and only play every now and then until playoff time
milkyway21
07-24-2007, 01:01 AM
spanoulis was never here so you can't really put him on that list lol
yeah, right. :lol
timvp
07-24-2007, 01:30 AM
Spurs release guard White
Johnny Ludden
Express-News
The Spurs waived guard James White on Monday in a move that saves the team $100,000.
The move was expected after White failed to impress team officials during the NBA Summer League in Las Vegas. His contract guaranteed him $100,000 if he was on the roster Aug. 1 and another $100,000 if he was still on the team at the start of training camp.
While White is exceptionally athletic and famed for his dunking ability, he apparently lacked the physicality the Spurs sought.
The Spurs now have 13 players under contract, though guard Vassilis Spanoulis is expected to ask for his release so he can play in Europe next season.
http://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/basketball/nba/spurs/stories/MYSA072407.7D.SpursWhite.en___.a5d2a153.html
timvp
07-24-2007, 01:31 AM
Hopefully Ludden didn't break his pencil filing that extensive report :rolleyes
ploto
07-24-2007, 01:35 AM
The Spurs now have 13 players under contract, though guard Vassilis Spanoulis is expected to ask for his release so he can play in Europe next season.
Does this mean that he still hasn't asked for it?
Marcus Bryant
07-24-2007, 01:41 AM
Spurs release guard White
Johnny Ludden
Express-News
The Spurs waived guard James White on Monday in a move that saves the team $100,000.
The move was expected after White failed to impress team officials during the NBA Summer League in Las Vegas. His contract guaranteed him $100,000 if he was on the roster Aug. 1 and another $100,000 if he was still on the team at the start of training camp.
While White is exceptionally athletic and famed for his dunking ability, he apparently lacked the physicality the Spurs sought.
The Spurs now have 13 players under contract, though guard Vassilis Spanoulis is expected to ask for his release so he can play in Europe next season.
http://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/basketball/nba/spurs/stories/MYSA072407.7D.SpursWhite.en___.a5d2a153.html
Damn, it sucks that White lacked the "physicality" of a Barry or Udrih. Man, next time come up with something more believable.
Marcus Bryant
07-24-2007, 01:43 AM
The Spurs will get Spannilousous to go away, so they'll have 12 under contract. Then they will sign Marcus Williams to a minimum rookie deal. Then they will pick up a cheap big for the minimum and carry 14 into next season.
timvp
07-24-2007, 01:44 AM
Damn, it sucks that White lacked the "physicality" of a Barry or Udrih. Man, next time come up with something more believable.
:lol
Yeah, since when did physicality become a prerequisite for a Spurs swingman? The only swingman that is slightly physical is Manu ... and he's more crafty than physical.
Marcus Bryant
07-24-2007, 01:45 AM
Why can't Ludden just write that the Spurs don't want to pay double his minimum salary?
timvp
07-24-2007, 01:53 AM
The Spurs will get Spannilousous to go away, so they'll have 12 under contract. Then they will sign Marcus Williams to a minimum rookie deal. Then they will pick up a cheap big for the minimum and carry 14 into next season.Exactly.
The cheap big will likely be Mahinmi. Going with 14 players, the Spurs can avoid the Lux Tax Monster.
:clap
milkyway21
07-24-2007, 02:04 AM
While White is exceptionally athletic and famed for his dunking ability, he apparently lacked the physicality the Spurs sought.
lacked the physicality. Speaking about being physical it's what Butler obviously has but too much of it...
I don't know but I'm getting confused already :dizzy
:lmao
hsxvvd
07-24-2007, 02:27 AM
There's goes all of our hope for a Slam Dunk Champion.
We already have a Slam Dunk Champion - Brent Barry 1996!!!
RuffnReadyOzStyle
07-24-2007, 03:41 AM
lacked the physicality. Speaking about being physical it's what Butler obviously has but too much of it...
I don't know but I'm getting confused already :dizzy
:lmao
Mmmmm. Of all the moves this summer, dropping Jackie was the worst I think. I bet he goes on to be a very solid starting centre somewhere.
mattyc
07-24-2007, 03:46 AM
Sad times.
Who would have thought when offseason began that Butler and white, aka "spurs future" would be gone ? I don't think many would have bet on that.
I think we can assume now that Mahinmi is in, unless the FO would surprise everybody with one or two other unexepected signings...
I think it's clear now that they're more concerned by the present than the far future and want to get the more they can in the Duncan era.
After all, TP is still young and progressing, they have a intriguing bigs in Ian and Tiago and could sign one or two solid free agents by next year.
They could also make significant moves next february like they sometimes do.
I don't think Butler and White leavings are constituting a major importance in thisoffseason, much less anyway than Scola's trade to Houston (would you be pro or anti).
Darkwaters
07-24-2007, 07:28 AM
The longer things progress it looks like Beno might actually spend next season with the team. Personally, I'd rather dump Beno and simply keep Spanoulis (assuming hes willing). I remember what Spanoulis did in the world championships and I wouldn't mind seeing how he does in our system. And in the same regard, somebody might get a quality product in Beno if their system meshes with him better.
Parker/Spanoulis/Vaughn
Ginobili/Finley/Barry
Bowen/Udoka/Williams
Duncan/Horry/Bonner
Oberto/Elson/Mahinmi
justanotherspursfan
07-24-2007, 07:56 AM
Damn, it sucks that White lacked the "physicality" of a Barry or Udrih. Man, next time come up with something more believable.
In fairness to the Spurs, they were trying to harness his athleticism and make him a real defender, no?
BacktoBasics
07-24-2007, 08:33 AM
I'm sorry I missed all five pages. Who do you guys have for the next savior for the Spurs? I mean according to you guys this guy was going to be a major contributor off the bench and win the next dunk contest while probably going for the sixth man award. For the ignorant that was sarcasm.
If they do in fact sign Ian do we really need to hear all year long how he will be the next great thing off the Spurs bench.....you know when he FULLY develops and gets past the SJax plan.
2centsworth
07-24-2007, 08:38 AM
The dude lacked an NBA jumpshot period!! You must consistently dunk on people if you shoot like JW.
degenerate_gambler
07-24-2007, 09:54 AM
In fairness to the Spurs, they were trying to harness his athleticism and make him a real defender, no?
and in fairness to White, he couldn't harness the defensive concept or shoot a lick, no?
MrChug
07-24-2007, 10:12 AM
and in fairness to White, he couldn't harness the defensive concept or shoot a lick, no?
The guy just didn't have a basketball mind at all or at least a Spur mind. He had plenty of time to grasp the Spurs concept yet he'd stand on the perimeter, wave off screens, dribble the ball for 10 seconds then make a sad ill-advised pass as the buzzer was sounding or a wild shot. Who does he think he is? Tracy Mcgrady or Steve Francis? (damn it gonna be sad seeing those on the floor together this year--I almost forgot :lol ) Does that sound like Spur basketball to you? Only our franchise players are allowed to call for the ball, even then it's within an offensive set.
The guy was bad and if he's so good then he let inferior players outplay him for that spot. Marcus Williams looks TEN times worse, but I really don't think he'll make it...or play (at least I hope).
That's what happens when you wear a stupid hat to the Celebration
ShoogarBear
07-24-2007, 10:19 AM
The guy just didn't have a basketball mind at all or at least a Spur mind. He had plenty of time to grasp the Spurs concept yet he'd stand on the perimeter, wave off screens, dribble the ball for 10 seconds then make a sad ill-advised pass as the buzzer was sounding or a wild shot. Who does he think he is? Tracy Mcgrady or Steve Francis? (damn it gonna be sad seeing those on the floor together this year--I almost forgot :lol ) Does that sound like Spur basketball to you? Only our franchise players are allowed to call for the ball, even then it's within an offensive set.
The guy was bad and if he's so good then he let inferior players outplay him for that spot. Marcus Williams looks TEN times worse, but I really don't think he'll make it...or play (at least I hope).Good thing we're holding on to Beno.
SenorSpur
07-24-2007, 10:20 AM
Fuck the dunk contest. This guy was a raw, yet promising young player. The goal wasn't for him to crack the rotation come November. He was supposed to have been a long-term answer at the swing spot. Even though he's only 25 years old and hasn't had a lot of opportunity to play, there wasn't going to be that dramatic of an improvement in his game since May.
I'm simply disappointed that they didn't at least allow him at least another season of physical strengthening and development. Everyone claimed how hard the kid was working and how he was buying into the system. If that's all true, that makes his release all the more puzzling. I find it hard to believe that the Spurs saw nothing redeeming in his talent, attitude and abilities that would make them was to invest more time in him. Especially since they had apparently targeted him in the '06 draft. Besides all that, can he be any worse than the Williams kid they just drafted?
At what point are the Spurs going to get a young, talented player in here and let him develop so that he can eventually become a major contributor to the rotation? It's a proven fact that it's easier and more cost-effective to develop your own talent through the draft rather than to overpay to acquire someone else's talent.
Or are the Spurs content on continuing in the mode of bringing in older veterans to plug holes and play for cheap? Maybe the Spurs are just sour on young domestic prospects alltogether.
MoSpur
07-24-2007, 10:31 AM
The Spurs waived guard James White on Monday in a move that saves the team $100,000.
LOL at Ludden pointing out the obvious.
BacktoBasics
07-24-2007, 10:32 AM
The FO is going to pump up every single piece of low level shit they bring in because thats what you are supposed to do. Guess who's next in line???? Here I'll just tell you Ian. This dude will suck and get cut.
MrChug
07-24-2007, 10:34 AM
That's what happens when you wear a stupid hat to the Celebration
That too...
mullet
07-24-2007, 10:54 AM
gotdamn Houston mole is corrupting RC
SenorSpur
07-24-2007, 11:03 AM
That's what happens when you wear a stupid hat to the Celebration
Hey, I thought that the hat was a nice touch.
:hat
Borosai
07-24-2007, 11:26 AM
Fook it.
Marcus Bryant
07-24-2007, 11:35 AM
Exactly.
The cheap big will likely be Mahinmi. Going with 14 players, the Spurs can avoid the Lux Tax Monster.
:clap
http://www.nba.com/media/spurs_970517_370.jpg
saporvida
07-24-2007, 11:53 AM
i wanted to see more of white in the silver&black... fuck it.
BigBeezie
07-24-2007, 06:07 PM
I watched White play...and Beno was better as a rookie. The organization obviously saw this.
Darkwaters
07-24-2007, 07:55 PM
I'm sorry I missed all five pages. Who do you guys have for the next savior for the Spurs? I mean according to you guys this guy was going to be a major contributor off the bench and win the next dunk contest while probably going for the sixth man award. For the ignorant that was sarcasm.
If they do in fact sign Ian do we really need to hear all year long how he will be the next great thing off the Spurs bench.....you know when he FULLY develops and gets past the SJax plan.
I guess you're right. White and Mahinmi are garbage.
My money is on Splitter. Savior of the Spurs!
DisciplinaryOffice
07-25-2007, 03:59 AM
For those looking for a little more wistful goodbye than Ludden offered, I thought this might help:
James White Needs a New Launching Pad
Matt Watson
Posted Jul 24th 2007 4:15PM by Matt Watson
Filed under: Spurs, Western, James White
On paper, there's nothing all that impressive about James White -- he's a 24-year-old, 6-foot-7 swing man who got into just six games for the Spurs this season. But of course, the game isn't played on paper, it's played in my computer monitor, and through the power of video I've seen James White do extraordinary things. Such as this, and this, and, of course, this.
So, months after White rode the pine en route to an NBA Championship ring, I was sad to learn that the Spurs waived White on Monday. I can't say the team didn't give him a fair shake -- they gave him one last look at the Las Vegas Summer league and apparently didn't like what they saw.
To be honest, I'm not all that sure his skills can translate to the team game, but he's clearly one of the most athletic players out there, and for what it's worth he was considered a solid defender coming out of college. The fact that he can't hold down a roster spot for the World Champion Spurs does not preclude him from latching on elsewhere, hopefully with a younger team that plays at a more up-tempo pace so that we can enjoy seeing what he does best -- and that is, "create highlight reels" -- on a semi-regular basis.
http://sports.aol.com/fanhouse/2007/07/24/james-white-needs-a-new-launching-pad/
urunobili
07-25-2007, 09:53 AM
I guess you're right. White and Mahinmi are garbage.
My money is on Splitter. Savior of the Spurs!
i agree... Mahimni and White r a lie... Splitter is good... but always remeber he was Scola's sub...
Darkwaters
07-25-2007, 12:45 PM
i agree... Mahimni and White r a lie... Splitter is good... but always remeber he was Scola's sub...
That was sarcasm...
AFBlue
07-25-2007, 07:49 PM
Back from a 5-day vacation and this is what I find out. Not that the Spurs have signed someone relevant or redeemed themselves with a semi-decent trade. Nope, just more cost-cutting moves....rediculous.
Not that I didn't see this one coming. Every article that mentioned his name was talking about the Spurs' disappointment in him.
But still....you probably couldn't get much cheaper than him for a roster spot that will most assuredly spend their time in Austin (if eligible) or in street clothes. Maybe the Spurs are banking on a guy they liked this year not making the cut on another team so they can swoop in and grab him....
Bottom Line: Unless this is part of a bigger plan (Udoka signing or other rookie), it's yet another disappointment for this off-season.
Mr. Body
07-25-2007, 08:07 PM
The big plan was signing the Pep Boys. They needed three roster spots.
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