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PakiDan
07-24-2007, 02:14 PM
http://www.tvshark.com/read/?art=arc612

Discovery's "Man vs. Wild" Caught Faking Aspects Of Show : [ send to a friend ]

Discovery Channel is taking a close look at one of its most popular series, "Man vs. Wild," after allegations that its host was in fact spending the night in motels when he was supposed to be surviving the great outdoors.

The network issued a statement Monday in response to an investigation launched by British television network Channel 4. Channel 4 says that host Bear Grylls had partaken of indoor accommodations on at least two occasions when his series had depicted him spending the night in the wild.

In each episode of the series, Grylls is airlifted into the wilderness with only a few tools to aid in his survival, such as a flint or water bottle. A former British special forces soldier, Grylls is typically depicted as surviving for several days without intervention or interruption while cameramen follow him offscreen.

But among the charges made against Grylls is that a raft he is depicted as having built himself actually was constructed and then disassembled by consultants to the show in order for the host to put it together. In another episode, Grylls happens upon what are re
ferred to as wild horses that were said to be brought in from a trekking station.

"Discovery Communications has learned that isolated elements of the 'Man vs. Wild' show in some episodes were not natural to the environment," the network said in a statement.

But the company gave no indication about parting ways with the series, only making certain unspecified alterations.

"Moving forward, the program will be 100% transparent and all elements of the filming will be explained upfront to our viewers," Discovery said.

They didn't elaborate on what exact measures will be taken but it could simply mean a disclaimer will precede each episode informing that some events are dramatized.

mardigan
07-24-2007, 02:15 PM
Haters

Soul_Patch
07-24-2007, 02:34 PM
haha fuck...i knew it couldnt all be real.


i still think he is bad ass...but...meh...

E20
07-24-2007, 03:02 PM
http://www.tvshark.com/read/?art=arc612

Discovery's "Man vs. Wild" Caught Faking Aspects Of Show : [ send to a friend ]

Discovery Channel is taking a close look at one of its most popular series, "Man vs. Wild," after allegations that its host was in fact spending the night in motels when he was supposed to be surviving the great outdoors.

The network issued a statement Monday in response to an investigation launched by British television network Channel 4. Channel 4 says that host Bear Grylls had partaken of indoor accommodations on at least two occasions when his series had depicted him spending the night in the wild.

In each episode of the series, Grylls is airlifted into the wilderness with only a few tools to aid in his survival, such as a flint or water bottle. A former British special forces soldier, Grylls is typically depicted as surviving for several days without intervention or interruption while cameramen follow him offscreen.

But among the charges made against Grylls is that a raft he is depicted as having built himself actually was constructed and then disassembled by consultants to the show in order for the host to put it together. In another episode, Grylls happens upon what are re
ferred to as wild horses that were said to be brought in from a trekking station.

"Discovery Communications has learned that isolated elements of the 'Man vs. Wild' show in some episodes were not natural to the environment," the network said in a statement.

But the company gave no indication about parting ways with the series, only making certain unspecified alterations.

"Moving forward, the program will be 100% transparent and all elements of the filming will be explained upfront to our viewers," Discovery said.

They didn't elaborate on what exact measures will be taken but it could simply mean a disclaimer will precede each episode informing that some events are dramatized.
The second and third ones are true(Raft/Horses), they're on Wikipedia's Man vs Wild page. I don't know why Discovery channel would be upset about this, as they themselves have forced some aided help to Bear during the filming process, which Bear disapproved of. Don't know about the indoor accomdations. I wanna see the new season coming up, see how it is and what they mean by this:

Moving forward, the program will be 100% transparent and all elements of the filming will be explained upfront to our viewers," Discovery said.
But still anybody who dives face first in a Zebra carcass is badass.

u2sarajevo
07-24-2007, 03:06 PM
I've only seen one episode... where he was in Canada I think? He "found" an abandoned house and from there he got the idea that he needed to get across the lake because tourist boats tour the ice glaciers that were on the other side....

As he was walking towards the lakeside of the house he "found" an "abandoned" boat that would make his trek faster. But that boat looked brand spanking new.

I watched the rest of the episode but thought that was a little too convenient. Not to mention that his hair always looked perfect.

CubanMustGo
07-24-2007, 03:19 PM
Is this the one where the guy has a cameraman following him around?

ShoogarBear
07-24-2007, 03:23 PM
Another one to add to the "Worst Sports Week ever" pile.

Nbadan
07-24-2007, 03:30 PM
..because Survivor was real!!

:hat

IceColdBrewski
07-24-2007, 04:04 PM
Even if it's true, it's not gonna bother me that much. I'll still watch it. Dude does some crazy shit out there.

Drinking his own urine.

Eating raw fish and animals.

Jumping butt naked into frigid waters to show how to get out.

Dude may not be spending every single night in the wild like he portrays, but he definitely knows the survival skills.

ShoogarBear
07-24-2007, 04:09 PM
Drinking his own urine.How can you be sure? Maybe it's chilled urine he has flown in.



Eating raw fish and animals. Prepared by a sushi chef in the trailer.



Jumping butt naked into frigid waters to show how to get out. Followed by piping hot Jamaican Blue Mountain coffee and a Mount Gay Rum hot toddy nightcap to take the chill off.



Dude may not be spending every single night in the wild like he portrays, but he definitely knows the survival skills.Biggest survival skill of all = mastering the spin. :smokin

E20
07-24-2007, 04:10 PM
How can you be sure? Maybe it's chilled urine he has flown in.

Prepared by a sushi chef in the trailer.
Followed by piping hot Jamaican Blue Mountain coffee and a Mount Gay Rum hot toddy nightcap to take the chill off.

Biggest survival skill of all = mastering the spin. :smokin
The only alcohol beverage Bear drinks is Whiskey and Whiskey ONLY.

And the Zebra carcass/Frog/Unknown animal carcass weren't really clean looking.

IceColdBrewski
07-24-2007, 04:25 PM
How can you be sure? Maybe it's chilled urine he has flown in.

Prepared by a sushi chef in the trailer.

Followed by piping hot Jamaican Blue Mountain coffee and a Mount Gay Rum hot toddy nightcap to take the chill off.

Biggest survival skill of all = mastering the spin. :smokin

I'm fairly confident that 90% of it is legit. My biggest suspicion has always been about him pretending like he doesn't know where he is when he jumps out of the plane. I think he knows exactly where he's jumping out at, and how to get back to civilization. He just uses his survival skills along the way. That's my opinion anyway.

I was in the 82nd Airborne, and I worked briefly with a few special forces troops. Trautman wasn't lying in First Blood when he said Rambo will eat things that would make a billy goat puke. Them special forces guys will eat the ass out of a dead skunk if it means accomplishing the mission.

leemajors
07-24-2007, 04:28 PM
The only alcohol beverage Bear drinks is Whiskey and Whiskey ONLY.

And the Zebra carcass/Frog/Unknown animal carcass weren't really clean looking.
i've heard him say he enjoys scotch, but that's whisky.

MrChug
07-24-2007, 04:34 PM
And in other news...water is wet.

E20
07-24-2007, 05:03 PM
i've heard him say he enjoys scotch, but that's whisky.
I read on his bio that he is a born again devout Catholic and the only thing he drinks is whiskey.

ShoogarBear
07-24-2007, 05:20 PM
I read on his bio that he is a born again devout Catholic and the only thing he drinks is whiskey.I don't get what one has to do with the other.

And if it did, you'd think he would drink only wine.

Bigzax
07-24-2007, 05:24 PM
why bear why?! :cry

E20
07-24-2007, 05:30 PM
I don't get what one has to do with the other.

And if it did, you'd think he would drink only wine.
He said he's abstained from drinking all together, but he has some sort of wierd liking to Whiskey and that's the only thing he drinks.

dallaskd
07-24-2007, 05:34 PM
screw that!!!

johngateswhiteley
07-24-2007, 06:19 PM
lets wait to jump to conclusions. furthermore, as already mentioned, Bear does some amazing things that obviously are not fake. so i will be watching his show anyway....

NorCal510
07-24-2007, 06:19 PM
jgw posted!

time to :jack

Sherlock Holmes
07-24-2007, 06:21 PM
I will look into this myself.

TheSanityAnnex
07-24-2007, 07:49 PM
The second and third ones are true(Raft/Horses), they're on Wikipedia's Man vs Wild page. I don't know why Discovery channel would be upset about this, as they themselves have forced some aided help to Bear during the filming process, which Bear disapproved of. Don't know about the indoor accomdations. :lmao

You told us all Discovery channel was all aware of this.

Where exactly can you show us proof that Discovery channel forced some unwanted aid to Bear? Sounds like he'll take all the aid he can get.

AlamoSpursFan
07-24-2007, 11:25 PM
He said he's abstained from drinking all together, but he has some sort of wierd liking to Whiskey and that's the only thing he drinks.

Ummm...ok.

Just don't tell me Deadliest Catch is fake. That would suck ass.

E20
07-25-2007, 12:37 AM
:lmao

You told us all Discovery channel was all aware of this.

Where exactly can you show us proof that Discovery channel forced some unwanted aid to Bear? Sounds like he'll take all the aid he can get.
Says on Wikipedia's Main Article page for Man vs Wild. Discovery didn't know about the alleged indoor accomdations, I think that's why they're upset about, but then that would be hypocritical, because they gave Bear aid as well.

greywheel
07-25-2007, 07:28 AM
According to wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Man_vs_wild) the only help that Grylls rejected to was a floatation device during the premeir episode.

Use of Cast/Crew
There are several instances in which Bear has obtained the assistance of the cast/crewmembers or other outside sources, which are inconsistent with his assertion that the crew has been instructed to abstain from helping him unless he is in a dire situation.

Grylls admitted wearing a flotation device in the pilot episode to ride down a river, specifically for a staged shot. It should be noted that he was displeased with the decision, which came from Discovery producers, and has since been able to avoid the use of such devices.[2]
The director of the Desert Island episode, Graham Strong, noted that a diver was at hand to check for sharks while Bear was adrift. Also in the Copper Canyon, Mexico episode, director Scott Tankard says that the local indian tribe, the Rarámuri indians, acted as their guides throughout the filming.[3].
According to the survival consultant for the show's Sierra Nevada and Desert Island episodes, Mark Wienart of Lifesong Adventures, the wild horses in the Sierra Nevada episode were domesticated horses shipped from Nevada. [4] Wienart also writes in his blog that he was hired to build the raft Bear used in the Desert Island episode. The raft was bound together primarily from rope, he says, not natural cordage.[5]

That being said, I can understand why some truths would be stretched for production value, safety reasons, or local regulations. But they should be more upfront about that.
If he was staying in motels, that would annoy me. But there is no mention of that in the article now. That is the problem with using Wikipedia as a source, the articles are editted too frequently by fans.

timvp
07-25-2007, 07:05 PM
It's funny when fans of the show get all cry baby when you point out some of the flaws. If you want to not take the show seriously and watch it as some sort of upgraded version of Fear Factor, that's fine. But don't get mad when others point out how it's not as real as the show portrays itself.

TheSanityAnnex
07-25-2007, 07:19 PM
That is the problem with using Wikipedia as a source, the articles are editted too frequently by fans.:nope shame on you E20 :nope

FearDaDuncaN_SA
07-25-2007, 11:34 PM
True or not, I still will watch the show.
Good info.








Like, I would ever be lost in the amazon. But, still, it's entertaining regardless.

E20
07-26-2007, 12:14 AM
I can't edit Wikipedia articles TSA. :lol

And Timvp is supposed to be my backup. WTF? :lol

Zombie
07-26-2007, 12:54 AM
Survior man > than man vs wild!
No camera man just him.
I read a story about this show, where a raft was fabricated for him but taken apart for the show. This way it made him look like he was building it. :rolleyes
Leave it to the Brits to fuck up the Discovery Network.

ggoose25
08-15-2007, 03:06 PM
FAKE UPDATE:

http://www.wwtdd.com/post.phtml?pk=2716

dickface
08-15-2007, 03:34 PM
uhhhhh.....anyone who really believes that Survivorman is just a man and a camera has no clue how a camera works.

i've seen many times where the camera has very subtly ZOOMED IN on ol' Survivorman....gee, how the fuck does he manage to do that while canoeing the Amazon?

sabar
08-15-2007, 03:47 PM
Les Stroud is alone and he has never zoomed in. Stroud is a documentary film maker before a survivalist, why the heck would he have someone else operate his camera? It's like saying Van Gogh's work was painted by someone else.

Man vs Wild is faked and Bear wants to be a celebrity, he doesn't care about ethics or realistic documentaries or anything.

dickface
08-15-2007, 04:00 PM
documentary film maker [/B]before a survivalist
so is Michael Moore but you haven't seen his fat ass lugging a camera around lately.

dickface
08-15-2007, 04:02 PM
on Survivorman i've seen the zoom a few times now and and some panning shots that almost look like he's got a steadicam operator hanging around.

Nbadan
08-15-2007, 04:05 PM
who cares....I still wouldn't eat live frogs and maggots....

L.I.T
08-15-2007, 04:41 PM
on Survivorman i've seen the zoom a few times now and and some panning shots that almost look like he's got a steadicam operator hanging around.

I've seen the show a couple of times myself, and wondered the same thing. However, all of the camera shots and effects (quick cuts, zooms and so forth) can be done in post-production work. Just a thought.

jaespur21
08-15-2007, 06:44 PM
this doesnt bother me. i love the show, cuz it so fun to watch

Switchman
08-15-2007, 10:50 PM
Big deal...

The dude broke his fucking back and then climbed Mt. Everest.

Plus, next time I am taking a jog through the Everglades, I will know how to get out of quicksand.

PakiDan
08-16-2007, 03:46 PM
Now this is pushing it a little far....

http://www.ebaumsworld.com/video/watch/32385/

Useruser666
08-16-2007, 04:15 PM
One episode of Survivorman dealt with how he films himself for the 7 days. He will leave a camera behind pointed in the direction he wants to go, then head out into the shot. Once he gets to the end of the shot he has to hike back and pick the camera up again. This is basically done in reverse for all shots where he walks towards the camera. He will leave a camera pointed back towards where he came from, double back, and then walk towards the camera and pick it back up again. That has to be tough to do. All zooming or other camera movement is either done by the camera crew just before they leave him for the 7 day time period, or by simply editing the film to bring him more into the field of view in post production. if you notice closely, there are never any panorama shots where he is not holding the camera. Also, the pans and zooms are all done without the camera's field of view changing.

Plus he actually looks like shit near the end of each episode. (Thinner and weaker looking.)

ZStomp
08-16-2007, 05:52 PM
:lol

I thought this show is so boring so hopefully this gets off the air. :) :tu