How Will Kg Trade Affect Spurs?

[ICE3000]

Would the spurs be interested in trading for any of the players going to Boston

[Sense]

:wtf

[Peter]

I'm sure the Spurs would be interested in Garnett, as would the other 27 teams.

[saporvida]

I'm sure the Spurs would be interested in Garnett, as would the other 27 teams.

you 28.

edit: 30 - minny - boston - san antonio = 27... sorry.

[BacktoBasics]

I love the shit out of Gomes. This guy would fit well in SA.

[mardigan]

3 wins a year against the T-Wolves

[El_Mago]

I assume a lot of players like CJ Miles...will be getting calls....even possibly James White from Danny Ainge and the Celts.

[oligarchy]

I love the shit out of Gomes. This guy would fit well in SA.

Yes, he would. I don't think Minny will give him up though, but it would be great to see SA go after him. He has intangibles that won't be seen in Minny.

[oligarchy]

I assume a lot of players like CJ Miles...will be getting calls....even possibly James White from Danny Ainge and the Celts.

Webber has been talking about wanting a ring.. would he take the vets min? That would help the bench. Brevin Knight, Dee Brown?

[AFBlue]

I love the shit out of Gomes. This guy would fit well in SA.

OMG, Gomes in SA would be sweet.

Decent overall talent that fills a need position and can be a solid role-player on championship-contending team....

Sign him up!

[koopa]

I love the shit out of Gomes. This guy would fit well in SA.


yes he would, i was fucking pissed when we picked ian over him

[mardigan]

Yes, he would. I don't think Minny will give him up though, but it would be great to see SA go after him. He has intangibles that won't be seen in Minny.
I think they will, last year of his contract, and they already have a starting small forward in Davis and they have Hassell and drafted Brewer

[BacktoBasics]

OMG, Gomes in SA would be sweet.

Decent overall talent that fills a need position and can be a solid role-player on championship-contending team....

Sign him up!Its just wishful thinking. Common sense players like this rarely make it SA's way. We perfer the much easier coin flip of success 2nd round gamble.

[BacktoBasics]

yes he would, i was fucking pissed when we picked ian over himI broke a remote that night I was so pissed.

[SenorSpur]

Season sweeps versus Celtics and T-Pups

[Obstructed_View]

I presume that KG will sign an extension with Boston, so that means the Spurs can't sign him after next year. Other than that, not much. Boston's not going to the Finals next year, and the Wolves won't make the playoffs.

[waly.mg]

Tim Duncan will lead the All Star Ballot over Yao Ming in the West

[jmard5]

Yup, Garnet + Pierce + Allen is really formidable.

But so is Barkley, Drexler and Olajuwon. :lol

[mardigan]

Yup, Garnet + Pierce + Allen is really formidable.

But so is Barkley, Drexler and Olajuwon. :lol
Who were like 1 game from being in the Finals

[Obstructed_View]

Allen, Robinson and Cassell was supposed to be really formidable, too. We've seen Robinson and Cassell play well on other teams, so guess who the problem was? Now we put him on a team with KG and Paul Gimmethaball? Should be lots of drama.

[Oh, Gee!!]

Spurs are happy KG is out of the WC

[bigfish22]

Effect = we only have to see him twice now

[Nikos]

Garnett is the best passing big man in the league. He will gladly share the ball with Pierce and Ray.

[easjer]

I don't expect it'll mean too much unless both teams make it to the Finals. Then it may mean something.

[jmard5]

Who were like 1 game from being in the Finals

And?

[Real Tomato Ketchup]

Garnett is the best passing big man in the league. He will gladly share the ball with Pierce and Ray.


I think Timmy and Chris Webber might have something to say about that, however I agree, Garnett will work well with those two.

[GhostofAlfrederickHughes]

It'll make what has been a pretty one-sided regular season matchup (Celtics = 1 win vs. San Antonio in the T.D. era) less one-sided.

Plus, Bowen vs. Ray Allen.

But it doesn't really matter unless there's a Boston-S.A. Finals.

[mardigan]

And?
And thats a hell of a lot better than being in the lottery

[Obstructed_View]

Garnett is the best passing big man in the league. He will gladly share the ball with Pierce and Ray.
Yep, and they'll still be pissed that he shoots it 18 times a game.

[jmard5]

And thats a hell of a lot better than being in the lottery

:lol Hell, but of course. I just would like to be reminded that 3 former go to guys from the other teams suddenly playing together does not guarantee an automatic championship.

[jmard5]

Yep, and they'll still be pissed that he shoots it 18 times a game.

:lol with Pierce also shooting 18 times and Allen shooting another 18...

[phxspurfan]

If they gel, it will be like a Denver Nuggets team without the George Karl discipline. I'd expect them to have some identity issues with who is the 4th quarter closer (Allen or Pierce) in the fall.

[AFBlue]

If they gel, it will be like a Denver Nuggets team without the George Karl discipline. I'd expect them to have some identity issues with who is the 4th quarter closer (Allen or Pierce) in the fall.

Doc Rivers actually seems to be a very discipline-oriented coach.

And IMO, it's a mistake to compare these stars to the Denver stars.

AI and Melo, as well as JR Smith are primarily known as scorers and have reps as being selfish.

I've not heard the same things about Garnett, Allen, or Pierce. Sure there will be some rough patches as far as chemistry is concerned...but these players are professional enough to get through them.

IMO, this trio has the ability to be much more successful than the Denver Duo.

[lefty]

Who were like 1 game from being in the Finals

2 games

[Bruno]

Wolves vets (Davis, Blount, Jaric and maybe Hassel) will be available for players with shorter contracts and/or draft picks. It could affect Spurs if they are trade to a Spurs' rival.

And I will really like to have Gomes with a Spurs jersey even it's kinda a pipe dream.

[jmard5]

And I will really like to have Gomes with a Spurs jersey even it's kinda a pipe dream.

I would still very much like for Udoka to sign up with the Spurs. Spurs can just matchup Bowen & Udoka with Pierce & Allen on the defensive end.

On offense, well, the Spurs can just run their typical Spurs offense at the Celtics.

[phxspurfan]

Doc Rivers actually seems to be a very discipline-oriented coach.

And IMO, it's a mistake to compare these stars to the Denver stars.

AI and Melo, as well as JR Smith are primarily known as scorers and have reps as being selfish.

I've not heard the same things about Garnett, Allen, or Pierce. Sure there will be some rough patches as far as chemistry is concerned...but these players are professional enough to get through them.

IMO, this trio has the ability to be much more successful than the Denver Duo.


All you say is pretty true. However, I think DPOY Camby should be considered to be similar to KG on the defensive side. On offense, Denver has Nene, to make up for Camby's lack of scoring punch. Allen seems like an older Melo (I remember the days when he dunked on guys like crazy, and was more of an inside-outside threat, around 2000). Pierce, well I see him more like a taller Andre Miller, but similar to AI because he needs the rock to produce, and is a defensive liability...

All of this aside, I think the NBA is going to be really fun to watch next year, and I'm already excited. Think of all the subplots: The rookies and their rejuvenated teams out NorthWest...the Rockets and their new Euroleague bigman...the Lakers with or without Bryant, The Hornets vs. the Jazz as teams with talented young PGs. The Warriors trying to stay healthy and prove that Nellie's small ball system can compete...Charlotte, New York, Orlando and their acquisitions. One more year of development for LeBron, Melo and Wade. And lastly, the Spurs, Mavs and Suns, standing pretty much pat and duking it out at the top.

[zekes]

And I will really like to have Gomes with a Spurs jersey even it's kinda a pipe dream.

He will be a free agent next summer. :smokin

[Borosai]

The only way this affects the Spurs is that Bonner will only have 2 games to beat up on KG. Should be fun.

[mando6599]

The best way it affects the Spurs is the All-Star game. Now Duncan won't have any competition when it comes to the starting forward spot on the Western team. Sweet!


mando

[NBA Junkie]

I presume that KG will sign an extension with Boston, so that means the Spurs can't sign him after next year. Other than that, not much. Boston's not going to the Finals next year, and the Wolves won't make the playoffs.

Garnett did agree to a 3 year extension with the Celtics, which made the trade possible for the Celts to even consider.

Salary figures obtained by ESPN.com show that Garnett's salary will be $14.7 million in the 2009-10 season, $17.1 million in 2010-11 and $19.5 million in 2011-12, when he'll be 36. Garnett was already scheduled to earn $22 million and $23 million over the next two seasons.

(For salary-cap purposes, however, his salary in each of those years will jump by $1.75 million to account for the trade kicker, making it $23.75 million for 2007-08, $24.75 million for 2008-09, $16.4 million for 2009-10, $18.8 million for 2010-11 and $21.2 million for 2011-12.)

[wildchild]

Garnett is the best passing big man in the league. He will gladly share the ball with Pierce and Ray.

Only best passing? Rebounds, dude!
KG+Pierce+Allen=too much! :elephant but not much better than Tim+Tony+Manu.

[NBA Junkie]

I think they will, last year of his contract, and they already have a starting small forward in Davis and they have Hassell and drafted Brewer

Davis and Hassell don't figure prominently in the Wolves plans now that Garnett is gone. Davis is in the last year of his contract, and will either be traded or the Wolves will let his contract expire and let him walk. He's a cancerous clubhouse presence and would stunt the growth of the young guys that Minnesota has just brought in.

Hassell may be kept since his contract will be difficult to unload, but he won't be a prominent player with the Wolves.

If McCants doesn't work out, Brewer may be shifted to the 2-guard spot, leaving room for Gomes at the 3.

[mountainballer]

that's a trade I would like:

Spurs trade Barry + future 1st rounder to Wolves for Hassell + Gomes.
if Spurs think about signing Udoka, they could also see an option in Hassell.
Hassell can't shoot as well, but he's stronger, younger and more NBA expirienced than Udoka. (and also did very well in the one PO series he played 2004, remember how he destroyed Carmelo, in one game Melo even shot 1-16!)
Hassell is a bit overpayed, but not that much. he would make much more impact, than Barry could next season. the major benefit would be to also get Gomes.

why the Wolves might do it?
they save 2 years of the contract of a player, who likely doesn't have that much future with the team. (in numbers: 9 million). they will have even more cap space 2008, a years that is expected to see a very strong FA class. they might even find a role for Barry, they lack shooting (even more with James gone) and a two times champion veteran on a very young core should also have some good influence, at least in the locker room.

[Clutch20]

We won't be able to find #21 anymore...........but seriously, Garnet's biggest contribution in the lowpost will be to provide a focus for the ballhoggers; he has enough presence to make Pierce and Allen cooperate, and Garnet will intimidate, discourage penetrations, alter shots and layups provided he can still get star treatment.
They're better now with him, but not enough elements to Celts game to counter any postseason contests they may have with the Spurs.

[101A]

Yup, Garnet + Pierce + Allen is really formidable.

But so is Barkley, Drexler and Olajuwon. :lol


Olajawon > KG, MVP 2 Finals MVP vs. MVP + 1 trip out of 1st rd. compliments of ET.
Barkley > Pierce MVP, Finals competitor vs. Allstar
Drexler > Allen Ring, another try vs. Allstar

Tired of the comparison, frankly. The Houston trio was MUCH more formidable than what Boston has cobbled together + Rudy T. vs. Doc. - no freaking comparison.

[oligarchy]

that's a trade I would like:

Spurs trade Barry + future 1st rounder to Wolves for Hassell + Gomes.
if Spurs think about signing Udoka, they could also see an option in Hassell.
Hassell can't shoot as well, but he's stronger, younger and more NBA expirienced than Udoka. (and also did very well in the one PO series he played 2004, remember how he destroyed Carmelo, in one game Melo even shot 1-16!)
Hassell is a bit overpayed, but not that much. he would make much more impact, than Barry could next season. the major benefit would be to also get Gomes.

why the Wolves might do it?
they save 2 years of the contract of a player, who likely doesn't have that much future with the team. (in numbers: 9 million). they will have even more cap space 2008, a years that is expected to see a very strong FA class. they might even find a role for Barry, they lack shooting (even more with James gone) and a two times champion veteran on a very young core should also have some good influence, at least in the locker room.

I think Gomes has 1 year left on his contract and it's a min contract at that. Minny has a number of contracts to dump and his small contract probably isn't one they are going to part with. Especially talent versus pay wise -- they have a steal. I'm sure they would be more than agreeable on dumping Hassell though.

Gomes would be an UFA next year, but I doubt we would go after him because his value might be a bit too high then.

[himat]

I think Timmy and Chris Webber might have something to say about that, however I agree, Garnett will work well with those two.

Sheed, KG, and Chris Webber are better passers then Duncan. Duncan is just a beast down low though and beats everyone at that though.

[mountainballer]

I think Gomes has 1 year left on his contract and it's a min contract at that. Minny has a number of contracts to dump and his small contract probably isn't one they are going to part with. Especially talent versus pay wise -- they have a steal. I'm sure they would be more than agreeable on dumping Hassell though.

Gomes would be an UFA next year, but I doubt we would go after him because his value might be a bit too high then.

Gomes will be a RFA, the situation would be much like it was this year with Bonner.
(even if the Spurs didn't wait till he tested the market)
for the Spurs it would be a situation, I assume the FO is looking for. one year to see if the player fits and a good position to resign him if they like him.
agree that compared to the salary Gomes is a steal, still it is a question what plans they have with him long term.
Davis, Brewer, Green....they have some guys to play SF, Gomes might just be the odd man out, even if they somehow like him. (that's why it would take at least the mentioned 1st rounder to get him into the package). considering how hard teams try to dump contracts, the Wolves might take the chance to dump Hassell, even if it costs them Gomes. Hassell's value is limited, not many teams will go for him, but for the Spurs (and their system) he has more value, than for most other teams.

[hsxvvd]

Yup, Garnet + Pierce + Allen is really formidable.

But so is Barkley, Drexler and Olajuwon. :lol


Or Shaq, Kobe, Malone AND Payton!

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

I don't expect it'll mean too much unless both teams make it to the Finals. Then it may mean something.

I'd like to see that. Our bench would slaughter theirs, and no-one can keep up with TP.

[Obstructed_View]

Sheed, KG, and Chris Webber are better passers then Duncan.
:lol

[Avitus1]

He went from one team that cant make the playoffs, to another one. Dont know what the effect is but probably someone to laugh at in Boston?

[vander]

I hope we meet the celts in the finals next year, that would make for an entertaining finals, the TD - KG matchup, the Allen - Bowen controversy, and both teams being old and featuring a "Big 3" but little else. It'd be a good series