New Rocket Scola leads Argentina past Puerto Rico

[Holt's Cat]

Aug. 25, 2007, 2:10AM

New Rocket Scola leads Argentina past Puerto Rico

Associated Press

LAS VEGAS — Luis Scola had 22 points and 11 rebounds to lead Argentina, which trailed by 14 points in the first half, to an 87-75 victory over Puerto Rico on Friday night in the opening round of the FIBA Americas tournament.

Scola, who has signed with the Rockets, was most of the offense early for Argentina (2-0), which fell behind 31-17 30 seconds into the second quarter. Scola scored the first five points in a 14-2 run that got Argentina within 35-33 with 1:31 left.

Argentina, playing without NBA regulars Manu Ginobili, Fabricio Oberto and Andres Nocioni from the team that won Olympic gold in 2004, started going inside and was able to take control by getting Puerto Rico's big players in foul trouble.

Carlos Delfino, who plays for the Toronto Raptors, added 15 points for Argentina, which was 20-for-28 from the free throw line while Puerto Rico was 14-for-16.

Larry Ayuso had 22 points for Puerto Rico (1-2), while Carlos Arroyo of the Orlando Magic added 20.

John Peter Ramos, Puerto Rico's 7-foot-2 center who played briefly for the Washington Wizards in 2004-05, had eight points and 12 rebounds, but he fouled out with 9:10 to play on a charging call. He injured his left leg on the play and had to be helped to the bench. There was no immediate update on his condition.

Richardo Sanchez, Ramos' backup, and forward Carmelo Lee both finished with four fouls.

Scola made two free throws with 4:11 left that gave Argentina its first lead, 52-51. Antonio Porta followed with a driving basket to cap a 9-0 run. Argentina went on to lead by as many as 15 points, the last time at 85-70 on a 3 by Delfino with 25 seconds left.

Puerto Rico got off to a great start from behind the 3-point line with Arroyo making three and Ayuso two in the opening quarter. Puerto Rico went cold after that, finishing 9-for-33 from beyond the arc — Arroyo 4-for-9 and Ayuso 3-for-10.

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/headline/sports/5082544.html

[ChumpDumper]

So we should have signed Ayuso.

[Indazone]

hehe..thanks very much for the trade. Vspan for Scola

I LOVE THIS GAME

[ducks]

dude you should be happy scola would never play as a spur
he would not have beaten out duncan

[T Park]

hehe..thanks very much for the trade. Vspan for Scola


22 points against D Leaguers.

Typical Rocket fan.

[screw_ston713]

lol if scola was going to spurs u couldnt tell me spurs fans wouldnt be excited about scola while yet i see threads where yall are excited to get udoka i believe a former d-league'r

[Roxsfan]

Scola rules. The Spurs fucked up on this one and anyone who does not agree is frankly






















dumb. :dizzy

[timvp]

Hopefully this no-rebounding-bad-attitude scrub that whottt and Bruno told us all about starts to emerge . . .

[Obstructed_View]

lol if scola was going to spurs u couldnt tell me spurs fans wouldnt be excited about scola while yet i see threads where yall are excited to get udoka i believe a former d-league'r
I'd have been excited about getting Scola, and most Spurs fans would have been excited to get him. He's a good guy and a good player. He is also a low post power forward who, while a good inside scorer and defensive rebounder, isn't a very good defender, and there's a pretty decent power forward on the team already. The reality is that he might not have fit into the Spurs' system, and Udoka addresses a specific need, in both position and specialty. I'd rather have Oberto, Udoka and Splitter. The sooner Mahinmi becomes NBA ready, the less that trade stings.

[ChumpDumper]

He's always played well in non-critical FIBA situations. I don't see how this is some kind of surprise.

[ArgSpursFan]

I told you all,He was gonna do better once He leaves Tau,Scola was done wih Tau.Now that He finally made it to the NBA,He looks more motivated and focused on his game(PPG and RPG).
Too bad the spurs F.O didnt see it that way too.

[ChumpDumper]

Yes, you told us he was sandbagging at Tau.

I'm glad the Spurs F.O. saw it that way too.

[ArgSpursFan]

Yes, you told us he was sandbagging at Tau.

I'm glad the Spurs F.O. saw it that way too.

whatever chump.

at the end of the day my boy is showing you all what Argentinians are made of.
Eat that shit now.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

whatever chump.

at the end of the day my boy is showing you all what Argentinians are made of.
Eat that shit now.
Argentinians are made of the same thing as any other human race. Do they have a 2nd stomach or something?

[ducks]

he had 6 rebounds the game before

lets see his rebounding numbers as a rocket

[ArgSpursFan]

Argentinians are made of the same thing as any other human race. Do they have a 2nd stomach or something?

nope,just bigger balls,that´s all. :lol

[ChumpDumper]

whatever chump.

at the end of the day my boy is showing you all what Argentinians are made of.
Eat that shit now.We all know he plays well in FIBA. He could even play well in the NBA.

Not for the Spurs.

I am glad he's not a Spur -- I thought it would make you join a Rocketboard since your Spurfandom relies solely on the nationality of one or two of their players. In that respect, I can't wait until all the Argentinians are off the team and you can red-ass elsewhere.

[Switchman]

Ginobili, Oberto, Nocioni, Scola.

What could have been.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

nope,just bigger balls,that´s all. :lol
In that case Scola should have no problem going against Dwight and Amare, right?

[SequSpur]

Matt Bonner!

9 Million!

Wooohoo!

[Pero]

22 points against D Leaguers.

Typical Rocket fan.

So then basically you are saying that typical Rockets fans are the same as typical Spurs fans or something?




28 and 15

holy shit..



:lol

[smeagol]

In that respect, I can't wait until all the Argentinians are off the team and you can red-ass elsewhere.

Damn, chumpie wants me ouy of this board asap :depressed

[ChumpDumper]

Nah, you only red-ass in drug and religion threads -- and I don't care much about either.

[smeagol]

Nah, you only red-ass in drug and religion threads -- and I don't care much about either.

Great!

I'm off to pray and say no to drugs :spin

By the way, damn shame the Spurs could/would not sign Scola. I guess they preferred Oberto.

[ChumpDumper]

What Scola had, we didn't need. It would've been nice to get Chuck Hayes in return or something like that, but we're good.

[Holt's Cat]

Yeah, it would have been nice to have received something in return.

[ChumpDumper]

Yeah, it would have been nice to have received something in return.Yeah, it would be nice if every team acted as if there were no luxury tax, but only one does.

And that team sucks.

[Holt's Cat]

How many teams have won 3 of the last 5 NBA titles?

[ChumpDumper]

Exactly.

[Holt's Cat]

So cut corners when you are on top?

[ChumpDumper]

It's a business. Control costs where you can.

[Holt's Cat]

It's a business being a fan?

[ChumpDumper]

How are you cutting corners as a fan?

The NBA is a business.

[Holt's Cat]

It's a game as well and there are only so many opportunities to win championships.

[ChumpDumper]

Yep, and as you so adroitly pointed out, the Spurs are doing just fine in that regard.

[Holt's Cat]

3 of 5 with their top 3 isn't that great.

[ChumpDumper]

It's great.

[Clemenza]

Thank you Spurs

[ChumpDumper]

Thank you Rockets.

[Roxsfan]

Thank you Rockets.


for what, making your FO look stupid :smokin

[ChumpDumper]

Nah, for getting rid of two guys who don't and never could play Spurs basketball. :smokin

[screw_ston713]

argentina vs panama argentina wins in overtime, scola scores 20pts 8 rebounds 2 assist yeah this looks like the making of a bum and take in consideration manu, oberto, arent on the team, shows u how good argentina players are 4-0

[Clemenza]

Thank you Rockets.


Yeah, Spanoulis, gave you some cap space for luxury tax next year, or something like that.

Thanks Spurs anyway, Scola looks good

[Clemenza]

Nah, for getting rid of two guys who don't and never could play Spurs basketball. :smokin

How are you so arrogant, man?

How do you know Scola couldn't play Spurs basketball?

[ArgSpursFan]

How are you so arrogant, man?

How do you know Scola couldn't play Spurs basketball?

He doesn´t.He just can´t stand too many argentinians playing for S.A.that´s all.
too bad coze S.A is gonna miss the Argies if they´re ever gone from S.A.
But I don´t see that happening, Pop is way too smart for that. :fro

[Indazone]

I'd have been excited about getting Scola, and most Spurs fans would have been excited to get him. He's a good guy and a good player. He is also a low post power forward who, while a good inside scorer and defensive rebounder, isn't a very good defender, and there's a pretty decent power forward on the team already. The reality is that he might not have fit into the Spurs' system, and Udoka addresses a specific need, in both position and specialty. I'd rather have Oberto, Udoka and Splitter. The sooner Mahinmi becomes NBA ready, the less that trade stings.

bwhahahahahah ok, you take Oberto who's Scola's backup and we'll take the real deal.

[wildchild]

bwhahahahahah ok, you take Oberto who's Scola's backup and we'll take the real deal.

again.

Pop, Buford and many Spursfan think that Splitter'll fit great in the Spurs, better than Scola.
Because our systems and schemes favor the role players like Oberto or Splitter. For star in the paint we have Tim.
But Pop, RC don't know much bsk and they're mistaken always...4 rings are nothing.

[ChumpDumper]

How are you so arrogant, man?

How do you know Scola couldn't play Spurs basketball?Because I've watched him play since before he was drafted. Look, Rocketfans think he can play the three, so they are automatically excluded from any real conversation about his potential as a Spur. Most Argies are not real Spurfans and still butthurt about the Falklands so they are also excluded. What does that leave? Folks like me. I wish Scola well, but he simply wasn't what the Spurs needed. Scola is a fine player. He can do well in this league, but he's much better suited for an Adelman team than a Popovich team.

[urunobili]

Ginobili, Oberto, Nocioni, Scola.

What could have been.
without mentioning Montecchia who almost becomes a Spur b4 manu...

[urunobili]

Because I've watched him play since before he was drafted. Look, Rocketfans think he can play the three, so they are automatically excluded from any real conversation about his potential as a Spur. Most Argies are not real Spurfans and still butthurt about the Falklands so they are also excluded. What does that leave? Folks like me. I wish Scola well, but he simply wasn't what the Spurs needed. Scola is a fine player. He can do well in this league, but he's much better suited for an Adelman team than a Popovich team.
it seems you need to review your games after he was traded... sounds that you haven;t seen ONE!!! :reading

[ChumpDumper]

I have. Hasn't changed my mind.

[kolko]

without mentioning Montecchia who almost becomes a Spur b4 manu...
Actually, it was shortly after the Olympics. (Manu was on the team)

[rasho8]

What the Rockets fans do not realize about the Spurs.... is that we already have the best Argie player.

His name is Ginobili.

Nough said.

[Pero]

Because I've watched him play since before he was drafted. Look, Rocketfans think he can play the three, so they are automatically excluded from any real conversation about his potential as a Spur.

What?!?

[ChumpDumper]

True story.

[temujin]

Because I've watched him play since before he was drafted. Look, Rocketfans think he can play the three, so they are automatically excluded from any real conversation about his potential as a Spur.

Most Argies are not real Spurfans and still butthurt about the Falklands

Questionable name.

so they are also excluded. What does that leave? Folks like me.

And me, who are neither argentinian nor american.
Scola is a heck of player, a winner, and a fierce competitor, who would have fitted quite well with Spurs basketball.
Spanoulis was equally well suited.
He doesn't want to play, for the time being.
So that looks like a an unnecessary gift.


I wish Scola well, but he simply wasn't what the Spurs needed. Scola is a fine player. He can do well in this league, but he's much better suited for an Adelman team than a Popovich team.


Duncan more than Popovich didn't want Scola?

[ChumpDumper]

I don't know what you're talking about.

Think of what would be an ideal guy to play alongside Duncan in the Spurs system.

Realize it isn't Scola.

Rinse.

Repeat if necessary.

[temujin]

I don't know what you're talking about.

Think of what would be an ideal guy to play alongside Duncan in the Spurs system.

Realize it isn't Scola.

Rinse.

Repeat if necessary.

Think of how many MORE years can Duncan play if he could substantially reduce his minutes, certainly in the regular season.

Think of what they got in exchange, Spanoulis, who will never be a Spur, despite being a much better player than Vaughn or the slovenian benchwarmer.

No need to repeat.

[ChumpDumper]

Think of how many MORE years can Duncan play if he could substantially reduce his minutes, certainly in the regular season.So you're saying Scola can do everything Duncan can. You're nuts.
Think of what they got in exchangeOpen roster spots and tax relief. Everyone acts like we could've gotten more, but can't prove it.

[temujin]

So you're saying Scola can do everything Duncan can. You're nuts.

35 mpg of Duncan is unnecessary to win 55 games, with all the seattles, Knicks Portlands and so on. Scola would have been more than sufficient for 20/25 mpg in there. I can't imagine Scola being less of a threat offessively and slower on pick-and-rolls defensively than Oberto. Who played alonside Duncan for most of the last quarters in the playoffs, incidentally.

Open roster spots and tax relief. Everyone acts like we could've gotten more, but can't prove it.

Trade Udrih for a 5th pick: that's opening a roster spot. Saying bye to Oberto, that's another opening.

The Spurs FO made very few mistakes, fewer than others, but this one was just one of those.


The "sos" that jump to conclusions I never argued, as well as the "nuts", admittedly colorfull, are nonetheless unnecessary.
With me, of course.

[ChumpDumper]

35 mpg of Duncan is unnecessary to win 55 games, with all the seattles, Knicks Portlands and so on. Scola would have been more than sufficient for 20/25 mpg in there. I can't imagine Scola being less of a threat offessively and slower on pick-and-rolls defensively than Oberto. Who played alonside Duncan for most of the last quarters in the playoffs, incidentallySo Scola is now the same player as Oberto.
Trade Udrih for a 5th pick: that's opening a roster spot. Someone would have to want him.
Saying bye to Oberto, that's another opening.You've already said bye to your senses in this case.
The Spurs FO made very few mistakes, fewer than others, but this one was just one of those.Signing the same kind of player (Butler) to a three year deal was the mistake. It cost the Spurs to clear that up.

[temujin]

So Scola is now the same player as Oberto.


Ask their coaches. And teammates.

Someone would have to want him.

There's plenty of idiots around. A little fight in a bar and the Knicks would dive for the guy.

You've already said bye to your senses in this case.Signing the same kind of player (Butler) to a three year deal was the mistake. It cost the Spurs to clear that up.

You are pushing too hard here. Because you are far too sharp not to realize that I would point out that Butler and Scola just don't belong to the same class, league or even sport. Irrespective of their role: playing in one case, watching, in the other.

[ChumpDumper]

Ask their coaches. And teammates.Show me a quote from them saying they are the same player. Interchangeable in all their skills and abilities.
There's plenty of idiots around.Actually no, there are only a few.
A little fight in a bar and the Knicks would dive for the guy.The Knicks can't even sign their own draft picks right now. Try again.
You are pushing too hard here.Not at all. Butler merely had the advantage of actually playing in the NBA and being young enough to make people think he could grow as a player.

[temujin]

Show me a quote from them saying they are the same player. Interchangeable in all their skills and abilities.

Nobody is interchangeable with anybody else.
Thera are >6billions of NON-interchangeable individuals.

Actually no, there are only a few.The Knicks can't even sign their own draft picks right now. Try again.

Draft pick? Did I writ of them signining a draft pick? Or an established, yet young NBA player with international experience, and two championships already in his record. because, technically peaking, this is what one could say of Udrih. that's more than one could say on most of the past 80 Knicks players..

Not at all. Butler merely had the advantage of actually playing in the NBA and being young enough to make people think he could grow as a player.

OK Late and going to bed.

[ChumpDumper]

Nobody is interchangeable with anybody else.
Thera are >6billions of NON-interchangeable individuals.So his teammates and coaches would say they are different. Thanks.
Draft pick? Did I writ of them signining a draft pick?No, I did because you seem to be ignorant of the Knicks' current roster situation.
Or an established, yet young NBA player with international experience, and two championships already in his record. because, technically peaking, this is what one could say of Udrih.Technically speaking, Udrih sucks and everyone knows it.