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Demo Dick Marcinko
08-27-2007, 01:23 PM
Tiago Splitter -
Strengths: Few players his size run the court as well as he does … Because of this he regularly beats opposing forwards down the court for quick scores … Possesses refined post footwork … Combine that with Splitter’s body control and you have someone who has no trouble getting his shot off in the post … An above average rebounder … Uses his quickness to obtain most rebounds in and out of his position … Double teams rarely effect him due to his above average court vision … Excels in the high post as he can use his quick first step to drive past most defenders … Possess a very good basketball IQ, understands the game … His superb mobility enables him to run the fast break with no problems and finish … Moves well without the ball and will work to get open … Defensively he is blessed with above average lateral movement and long arms … Possesses excellent hands that are both quick and soft which helps him on both sides of the ball … Shows soft touch around the basket where he can make a good amount of shots via drop-ins, hooks, or put backs …

Weaknesses: Not a prolific offensive player … Despite his height and quickness, Splitter is not much of a shot blocker … Tends to get frustrated when played physically in the low post … This has led some to question his mental toughness … Throughout his career he has had health trouble so there’s the concern that he could be an injury prone player in the NBA’s 82 game schedule … Must improve on his upper body strength. How big he can actually get is questionable … This impacts him offensively when he fails to finish after contact occurs … Despite being one of the most talented players on the court, he tends to defer to teammates and lacks aggressiveness … Surprisingly he shows mediocre consistency shooting from mid-range … Not a great free throw shooter … Still prone to fundamental lapses as he doesn’t always secure rebounds which enable easy steals for opposing teams … Tends to get out-muscled for rebounding position by stronger opposing forwards …


http://www.nbadraft.net/admincp/profiles/tiagosplitter.html



Luis Scola -
Strengths: Has great hands, and NBA upper body strength. Will not have the problems that other Euro players like Kirilenko and Gasol have been facing. Also, a good athlete with leaping ability and runs the floor pretty well for a big man. Used to playing high-level basketball at the age of 22. Played in the Euroleague Finals last year which was the highest level of club competition in Europe. Also, almost doubling his averages every year (last year: 8.8 ppg, this year: 16.4 PPG). Besides that, used to play in a big rotation which shows that he is not likely to have "staying on the court for longer minutes" syndromes. Has good ball handling skills for a big man. Can go coast to coast and finish it off with a dunk. Can spot a fellow big man from a variety of positions. Also, a good pick'n roll player. Can score by popping up from up to 15 ft, rolling down with control, find an open teammate both on the perimeter as well as down low. Very good at passing to big men, especially from high post to low post which will be beneficiary for zone offenses. Has the experience, the vision and the guts to select the correct pass. Knows how to score around the basket whether it be a fade away, a finger roll or a bank shot. Uses his body well not to get blocked. Also, contains a nice touch with a right hand jump hook.

Weaknesses: Not versatile. Can only play one position, namely power forward and may be a little soft for the position. Probably will have difficulty in defending big PF's. Not possible for him to "steal" some minutes from either C nor SF as he is literally too small for one and too slow/small for the latter. Needs to improve rebounding skills. Good at crushing the boards when running from the wing but not nearly as effective from a stationary position. Must improve upon his 65% free throw shooting.

http://www.nbadraft.net/profiles/luisscola.htm


I think that the Spurs more then made up for losing Luis. And remember Scola is 27 and Splitter is 22, with tons of upside. No question that he will improve in all areas playing next to Tim and in the Spurs system. Thoughts?

ChumpDumper
08-27-2007, 01:26 PM
I'm not sure about Splitter's upside. He seems to have stalled in his development the past two seasons. We'll have to see how he responds to the Spurs' coaching and conditioning programs.

SKINNYPIMP210
08-27-2007, 01:58 PM
Oh Yeah I Think The Spurs Made Up For Losing Luis. But Yeah I Did Notice Some Of Splitters Weaknesses When I Watched Him In The Fiba America's Championship. But A Big Thing That I Liked Was He Didn't Play "scared" Which Is A Big Thing I Look At. He Did Look To Get A Little Tired But I Think The Spurs Could Really Help This Guy On His Game. Just Look At Oberto!

Darkwaters
08-27-2007, 02:02 PM
I'm not sure about Splitter's upside. He seems to have stalled in his development the past two seasons. We'll have to see how he responds to the Spurs' coaching and conditioning programs.

A new coach and a new system might be just what the doctor ordered though. Maybe the Spurs can get this guy to stop treading water and keep on swimming forward.

Even if he doesn't improve a whole lot from here on out I still think the 28th pick was a very reasonable price to pay to obtain him.

tmtcsc
08-27-2007, 02:07 PM
I was surprised at his mobility. He moves really well for such a big guy. And is it me or is Amare shrinking ? For some reason he seems to have gotten smaller. I know he didn't shrink but it seems like he did. I guess the knee injury really limits his hops more than I thought. That...and he just seems smaller. He's like a big Small Forward more than a Power Forward or Center.

Bakc to Tiago...I think he will be fantastic for us defensively. A little help from our coaching staff and this guy will get better.

Demo Dick Marcinko
08-27-2007, 02:15 PM
At 6'11" 236lbs Tiago is going to make up defensively alot more than what we lost offensively with Scola 6'9" 230lbs. Not to diminish Scola one bit, but at 22 yrs of age, Tiago's ceiling is off the roof. His court vision, basketball IQ and his lateral movement is extraordinary for someone his size.

That being said, I think some of our Houston posters think Scola, Stevie Franchise and Aaron Brooks (who they think can be the Tony stopper) they think that will put ahead of the Spurs and and they will win the Western conf. They are better but only marginally so. Spurs should represent the western conferance.

SpursIndonesia
08-27-2007, 02:22 PM
From the current pics around the web, i really think Splitter's weight is more of the north of 240's lbs.

Switchman
08-27-2007, 02:42 PM
Look at the guys around him that he'll be playing with on the Spurs. He'll be good offensively

Don't know about his defense.

Spurs Brazil
08-27-2007, 02:58 PM
I'm not sure about Splitter's upside. He seems to have stalled in his development the past two seasons. We'll have to see how he responds to the Spurs' coaching and conditioning programs.

That's true. I hope when he arrives in San Antonio he can develop his game

Whisky Dog
08-27-2007, 03:29 PM
At 6'11" 236lbs Tiago is going to make up defensively alot more than what we lost offensively with Scola 6'9" 230lbs. Not to diminish Scola one bit, but at 22 yrs of age, Tiago's ceiling is off the roof. His court vision, basketball IQ and his lateral movement is extraordinary for someone his size.

That being said, I think some of our Houston posters think Scola, Stevie Franchise and Aaron Brooks (who they think can be the Tony stopper) they think that will put ahead of the Spurs and and they will win the Western conf. They are better but only marginally so. Spurs should represent the western conferance.


??? At best Francis will not have an impact and not take many shots, but at worst he'll be his usual ball hog self and minimize the effectiveness of TMac and Yao.

Aaron Brooks stop TP? With all the other weapons the Spurs have? That's not going to happen.

WalterBenitez
08-27-2007, 07:09 PM
Spliter will be traded to Mavs next year

ChumpDumper
08-27-2007, 07:10 PM
Spliter will be traded to Mavs next year:lmao

The Franchise
08-27-2007, 08:33 PM
I keep hearing everyone saying Splitters potential this and Splitters upside that but until that comes to fruition it means nothing.Right now Scola is much better period. Splitter is ok right now but he still needs a little development before coming to the NBA.The only thing Scola needs is an adjustment period.

Demo Dick Marcinko
08-27-2007, 09:54 PM
I keep hearing everyone saying Splitters potential this and Splitters upside that but until that comes to fruition it means nothing.Right now Scola is much better period. Splitter is ok right now but he still needs a little development before coming to the NBA.The only thing Scola needs is an adjustment period.



Better how? Offensively? Defensively? Does he rebound better, how about does he have better court vision or is he a better help defender? At this point neither has played in an NBA game. Luis will have a one year head start, true but ultimately Splitter may have a bigger upside.

Darkwaters
08-27-2007, 10:32 PM
I keep hearing everyone saying Splitters potential this and Splitters upside that but until that comes to fruition it means nothing.Right now Scola is much better period. Splitter is ok right now but he still needs a little development before coming to the NBA.The only thing Scola needs is an adjustment period.

At this point neither has proven that they can play at an NBA level. While Scola is the generally more polished player, he is also the one with more questions about whether or not his game will translate to the NBA. There are few concerns regarding Splitter's translation of game however.

So while Scola might be the more established Euroleague player he has just as much NBA experience as Splitter: none.

ploto
08-27-2007, 10:37 PM
They were on the same team and Scola meant a lot more to them than Splitter did.

picnroll
08-27-2007, 10:48 PM
They were on the same team and Scola meant a lot more to them than Splitter did.
Sarunas and Macijauskas were hot stuff in Europe too and bombed horribly in the NBA. Sarunas was even considered by most the best in the world outside of the NBA before he stunk it up in Indianna and GS. Meanwhile a lesser European light, Calderon is a far, far better NBA player than him. So being better in Europe doesn't always mean something in the NBA. Remains to be seen if Scola's defensive deficiencies, which to me look pretty glaring in FIBA America, will allow him to stay on the floor. Doesn't look like defense or rebounding are going to be a problem for Splitter.

itzsoweezee
08-28-2007, 12:27 AM
scola is light years better than splitter

TDMVPDPOY
08-28-2007, 12:31 AM
CANT wait to see TD own scolas ass

Roxsfan
08-28-2007, 12:38 AM
scola is light years better than splitter

yep.

ChumpDumper
08-28-2007, 03:07 AM
They were on the same team and Scola meant a lot more to them than Splitter did.Hell yes.

Sincerely,

Antoine Rigadeau

Demo Dick Marcinko
08-28-2007, 04:13 AM
They were on the same team and Scola meant a lot more to them than Splitter did.

Yeah, he did. But remember that Scola is 5 yrs older and has been playing in the Euroleagues since he was 22. Scola's got the age and experience, and for now the skill set, mainly on the offensive end on Splitter. That's one big factor I believe put Splitter's development on hold; lack of playing time. I know, I know if Splitter was all that and a bag of chips then he would have gotten the playing time. Well the experience and skill that the more experienced Scola possessed was a hard obstacle to overcome. Give the young guy some seasoning, some mentoring by Tim to help work on his post moves, a great coach and system, throw in a good strength and conditioning program, and finally let Chip work on his shot and in time you're going to have a very good NBA post player.

I'll even go out on the limb and say that to the Spurs and their system, Splitter would have meant a whole lot more then Scola especially the redundancy at PF, no disrespect to Luis. IMO this was a calculated gamble by the Spurs FO that one day people will say bordered on brilliant.

WalterBenitez
08-28-2007, 05:51 AM
scola is light years better than splitter Scola is older than Tiago, but wait and see... right now I'll go with Luis, whenever Spurs got Tiago he'll be probably be as good as Luis.

ploto
08-28-2007, 06:56 AM
Fans are so hilarious-- now all the sudden Splitter is the greatest because the Spurs drafted him. Right now Scola is way better than Splitter. Will Splitter someday be better- who knows? He looked like he had a lot of potential a couple of years ago that never materialized. Fans also think that being on the Spurs will sudddenly change players- sure like Nazr and Elson! Yes, I know Splitter is younger and he has upside. But the need to convince yourself that he is better than Scola just to make you feel better about Scola being traded away for nothing is really pretty funny.

picnroll
08-28-2007, 07:18 AM
Fans are so hilarious-- now all the sudden Splitter is the greatest because the Spurs drafted him. Right now Scola is way better than Splitter. Will Splitter someday be better- who knows? He looked like he had a lot of potential a couple of years ago that never materialized. Fans also think that being on the Spurs will sudddenly change players- sure like Nazr and Elson! Yes, I know Splitter is younger and he has upside. But the need to convince yourself that he is better than Scola just to make you feel better about Scola being traded away for nothing is really pretty funny.
...and don 't forget Rasho.

The doubt about Scola's defensive ability is legitimate just like the doubt that Rasho was ever capable of ever playing with any confidence or intensity was. One makes Rasho a non-contributor when it counts and the other may make Scola one.

Bruno
08-28-2007, 07:32 AM
I take Splitter over Scola without a doubt because Splitter is a better fit in SA than Scola and because I don't think at all that Scola's game will translate well in nba while Splitter should make the Europe/nba transition quite easily.

Clemenza
08-28-2007, 07:36 AM
Scola is a winner. :fro :hat :smokin

Demo Dick Marcinko
08-28-2007, 11:02 AM
Fans are so hilarious-- now all the sudden Splitter is the greatest because the Spurs drafted him. Right now Scola is way better than Splitter. Will Splitter someday be better- who knows? He looked like he had a lot of potential a couple of years ago that never materialized. Fans also think that being on the Spurs will sudddenly change players- sure like Nazr and Elson! Yes, I know Splitter is younger and he has upside. But the need to convince yourself that he is better than Scola just to make you feel better about Scola being traded away for nothing is really pretty funny.

And Scola was going to help the Spurs how? Oh yeah, he would have Tim Duncan backing him up at the PF position. And difference between Scola and Splitter in salary cap hit would have been how much? You do know that if the Spurs didn't do anything with Scola this season he was going to resign a 5+ yr contract with Tau or another Euroleague team. The Spurs couldn't clear anyone of their roster to make room for Scola, so they traded his rights and Butler's contract and at least were able to sign Udoka which is a damn good deal in and of itself. So it doesn't matter if one thinks that Scola may be way better then Splitter right now. Spurs couldn't get him. But don't let the facts get in the way. Thank you we know that Splitter is younger and has tremendous upside, but the need for some of you show your ignorance is actually even funnier.

Demo Dick Marcinko
08-28-2007, 11:08 AM
Scola is a winner. :fro :hat :smokin

And his zodiac sign is Taurus, so what's your point?

Indazone
08-28-2007, 12:25 PM
Excitement about Splitter, the 28th pick of the NBA draft is a bit presumptious.

mardigan
08-28-2007, 12:38 PM
Excitement about Splitter, the 28th pick of the NBA draft is a bit presumptious.
Really?
But getting excited about a 56th pick in Scola is ok?
And btw, Tony was the 28th pick and Manu the 57th, they turned out to be decent
:lol

Scola rules

:lol

ploto
08-28-2007, 01:03 PM
The Spurs couldn't clear anyone of their roster to make room for Scola, so they traded his rights and Butler's contract.


Spurs couldn't get him. But don't let the facts get in the way.

No- the Spurs made other choices for their roster. There were spots and $$ but they chose to use it on Bonner. You say the Spurs could not get Scola this summer- but they never even tried. THE SPURS HAVE NEVER EVEN MADE AN OFFER TO SCOLA-- How's that for getting your facts straight. They traded him to Houston to save salary tax money- period. Whether they signed Udoka has nothing to do with this discussion-- Scola vs. Splitter. Splitter withdrew from the draft 3 times and has never even started a game in Europe. He still has alot to prove.

ploto
08-28-2007, 01:05 PM
And btw, Tony was the 28th pick and Manu the 57th, they turned out to be decent


And Beno too-- oh, wait...

remingtonbo2001
08-28-2007, 01:29 PM
And Beno too-- oh, wait...

I'll give you credit, but I don't believe people are viewing the grander perspective. Signing Scola would mean NO FABRICO. So, by letting Scola depart, we have FABI, and SPLITTER.

I don't feel as though Scola would have fit into our system. OFFENSE sells tickets, but DEFENSE wins championships. Houston is pursuing an increase in ticket sales and TV ratings. San Antonio seems content with the perspective of gathering numerous championship trophies. Scola and the Rockets can have their ticket sales. I'll take my TROPHIES, thank you very much. :spin

Bruno
08-28-2007, 01:37 PM
Splitter has never even started a game in Europe.

:rolleyes

timvp
08-28-2007, 01:40 PM
Splitter has never even started a game in Europe.
Where'd you pull that out of?

timvp
08-28-2007, 01:45 PM
ploto is on such a crusade to put down Spurs fans that she doesn't care about truths. The odd part of it all is her undying support for the biggest bigman bust in modern Spurs history. Nazr was the starting center for a championship team. Elson isn't that good but his contract isn't that big either. You know who got paid big bucks . . . and never played as well as he did his last year with the Timberwolves.

rascal
08-28-2007, 01:49 PM
I don't like splitter's lack of agression. Can call that soft. Agressive desire can't be taught. You either have it or you don't.

Bruno
08-28-2007, 01:53 PM
Elson isn't that good but his contract isn't that big either.

And Elson played twice more in the 07 playoffs than Rasho in the 05 playoffs.
Elson, in his Spurs rookie year, has helped more Spurs to get a ring than Rasho in three years. :spin

smeagol
08-28-2007, 01:55 PM
I don't like splitter's lack of agression. Can call that soft. Agressive desire can't be taught. You either have it or you don't.

AGgressive like Manu, you mean?

That other player you would like shipped away fromt he Spurs ASAP?

ChumpDumper
08-28-2007, 02:59 PM
has never even started a game in Europe.:lmao

There are plenty of things that can be said to put down Splitter without flat out lying about him -- especially something that is so easily disproved:

http://www.euroleague.net/competition/players/showplayer?pcode=CBY&seasoncode=E2006

Guess what "GS" stand for....

ploto is hysterical.

picnroll
08-28-2007, 03:29 PM
ploto is the self-acknowledged resident board genius. :rollin

hater
08-28-2007, 03:29 PM
Spliter is Scola's son

Darkwaters
08-28-2007, 03:37 PM
I don't like splitter's lack of agression. Can call that soft. Agressive desire can't be taught. You either have it or you don't.

Splitter is very aggressive. He crashes the offensive boards with a passion and is always very intent on playing D even when the rest of his team has thrown in the towel. His arms are always up and hes always hustling up and down the court.

On offense you could say that he has lacked that edge during the FIBA Americas tournament. But with a PG like Leandro Barbosa you're probably not going to get the ball no matter how wide open you are. Can you blame him for not not being mind blowingly aggressive when Barbosa is going to take bad shot after bad shot no matter what?

So, lack of aggression on offense I can see. But saying he completely lacks aggression indicates an ignorance of his defensive and rebounding effort.

nfg3
08-28-2007, 04:29 PM
I like Splitter's defensive aggressiveness but I tend to aggree with others that he lacks that on the offensive end. I think with the right PG, coaching and time this will be remedied. I think all the guy needs is more PT and he will get it now that Scola has gone to Htown. His defensive skills are going to fit into the Spurs system better thatn Scola's and in the long run will probably turn out to be the better player for the Spurs. I think it isn't important if Scola has the better numbers but rather it is important that Splitter fills the appropriate role and contributes to the Spurs winning more rings.
As for Barbosa - he is a ball hog and his passes are atrocious. I saw several that where thrown at the player's knees. A Steve Nash he isn't. It is difficult to see Splitter work the offensive end with Barbosa on the floor. You need the ball and Barbosa is one huge black hole now.

timvp
08-28-2007, 04:33 PM
Splitter has had too many hot-potato-no-look jump hooks (a la Rasho, ironically enough) in this tournament. He needs to take those out of his repertoire.

But offensively, he's showing he can survive on the high post. That's great news considering that the Spurs will ask him to play out there.

Hopefully his stalled progression in Europe was more out of boredom than lack of ability.

Obstructed_View
08-28-2007, 04:35 PM
I think both of them are going into better situations than they could have hoped for, and they'll each fill a need on their teams, and do it well. I'd have liked to see Scola in a Spurs uni, but I'm not sure how anybody thinks he'd have been a good fit with this team.

yavozerb
08-28-2007, 04:47 PM
Aug. 29 Brazil VS Arg. 8:30 on NBA TV or NBA.com ..Should be fun to watch Splitter and Scola go at one another.

Obstructed_View
08-28-2007, 05:23 PM
Hey Ploto, I still don't miss Rasho...

Demo Dick Marcinko
08-28-2007, 05:29 PM
[QUOTE] THE SPURS HAVE NEVER EVEN MADE AN OFFER TO SCOLA

Your credibility has already been shot to hell, but let me ask, "do you think maybe the Spurs F.O. knows something that you don't?" Maybe just maybe, there was a reason for that.




He still has alot to prove.

So do you.

Indazone
08-28-2007, 05:48 PM
Splitter can't touch Scola's jockstrap

ChumpDumper
08-28-2007, 05:54 PM
I'm sure he had every opportunity to touch his jockstrap while they were teammates.

Spliiter chooses not to touch other players' jockstraps. If that's something you want from your basketball players, you are a different sort of fan.

A Rocket fan.

timvp
08-28-2007, 05:56 PM
I'm sure he had every opportunity to touch his jockstrap while they were teammates.

Spliiter chooses not to touch other players' jockstraps. If that's something you want from your basketball players, you are a different sort of fan.

A Rocket fan.

:lmao

I need to vacation wherever ChumpDumper vacationed.

Indazone
08-28-2007, 06:36 PM
I'm sure he had every opportunity to touch his jockstrap while they were teammates.

Spliiter chooses not to touch other players' jockstraps. If that's something you want from your basketball players, you are a different sort of fan.

A Rocket fan.


Ya..I guess Tiago prefers to sniff Scolas jockstrap.

mardigan
08-28-2007, 06:39 PM
Ya..I guess Tiago prefers to sniff Scolas jockstrap.
Weak sauce right there.
You tell Spur fans not to get excited about the 28th pick when your creaming over the 57th pick
Niether one has proven they can play in the NBA
But Splitter has much more upside

ChumpDumper
08-28-2007, 06:42 PM
Rocketfan continues to demonstrate his obsession with jockstraps.

ploto
08-28-2007, 07:11 PM
Guess what "GS" stand for....

ploto is hysterical.
I used this site from the NBA-- GS=0!

http://www.nba.com/draft2007/profiles/TiagoSplitter.html

ploto
08-28-2007, 07:14 PM
Splitter has had too many hot-potato-no-look jump hooks (a la Rasho, ironically enough) in this tournament. He needs to take those out of his repertoire.
Actually he reminds me quite a bit of Rasho- that is what is so hilarious to me!! He has been known for passing up open shots to pass to teammates-- sound familiar? :D

ploto
08-28-2007, 07:18 PM
LEB - Bilbao Berri
Season G GS FGM FGA PCT FTM FTA PCT 3PM 3PA PCT REB AST STL BL PTS AVG
2001-02 35 0 147 267 .551 70 132 .530 9 27 .333 206 24 25 55 373 10.7
2002-03 28 0 145 226 .641 75 114 .658 6 18 .333 198 26 26 48 371 13.3
Totals 63 0 292 493 .592 145 246 .589 15 45 .333 404 50 51 103 744 11.8


Spanish ACB - Tau Cerámica
Season G GS FGM FGA PCT FTM FTA PCT 3PM 3PA PCT REB AST STL BL PTS AVG
2003-04 10 0 5 16 .313 7 18 .389 0 0 .000 16 3 2 4 17 1.70
2004-05 29 0 87 154 .565 78 118 .661 0 2 .000 130 29 21 27 252 8.70
2005-06 29 0 116 181 .641 65 107 .607 1 2 .500 131 23 29 24 298 10.3
2006-07 28 0 117 191 .613 80 135 .593 0 2 .000 151 19 35 22 314 11.2
Totals 96 0 325 542 .600 230 378 .608 1 6 .167 428 74 87 77 881 9.20


Euroleague - Tau Cerámica
Season G GS FGM FGA PCT FTM FTA PCT 3PM 3PA PCT REB AST STL BL PTS AVG
2003-04 16 0 26 42 .619 12 19 .631 0 0 39 5 6 5 64 4.00
2004-05 19 0 48 90 .533 37 76 .486 0 0 86 18 14 14 133 7.00
2005-06 24 0 85 142 .599 58 106 .547 0 0 111 15 30 12 228 9.50
2006-07 20 0 80 138 .580 54 102 .529 0 0 120 15 28 7 214 10.7
Totals 79 0 239 412 .580 161 303 .531 0 0 .000 256 53 78 38 639 8.10

ploto
08-28-2007, 07:21 PM
Well-- I see you all in here-- where's your apology for calling me a liar?

ChumpDumper
08-28-2007, 07:23 PM
Hopelessly misinformed. Sticking with a losing position. Ignorant.

ChumpDumper
08-28-2007, 07:25 PM
January 22, 2006

For Tiago, the turning point probably started right when Pedro Martínez was fired in late November and Velimir Perasovic took over the coaching job. The Croatian coach soon increased Splitter’s minutes on court, but most importantly, made them consistent. However, it wasn’t until last month when the effects became more visible, right when coach Perasovic decided to give him a starting spot in the paint alongside Luis Scola. In the last four games he played, whether in the Euroleague or ACB League competition, the Brazilian has averaged 14.5 points, 8 rebounds and 2 steals.

http://www.draftexpress.com/viewarticle.php?a=1171

ploto
08-28-2007, 07:29 PM
Still does not mean that I am a blatant liar who is purposefully misleading people and speaking bold face lies. I based my statement upon a site that should be accurate- but apparently was not. Does not make me a liar or someone who is making false claims on purpose just to be a bitch. That is what I deserve an apology for.

Guess the dream died...

timvp
08-28-2007, 07:29 PM
I used this site from the NBA-- GS=0!

http://www.nba.com/draft2007/profiles/TiagoSplitter.htmlYou would think that someone so passionate about the subject would have watched a Tau game or two before going on a crusade. And who looks on NBA.com for Euroleague stats? You're lucky they had Splitter playing the right sport.

timvp
08-28-2007, 07:31 PM
Actually he reminds me quite a bit of Rasho- that is what is so hilarious to me!! He has been known for passing up open shots to pass to teammates-- sound familiar? :DSo Scola > Rasho?


:smokin

ploto
08-28-2007, 07:31 PM
You would think that someone so passionate about the subject would have watched a Tau game or two before going on a crusade. And who looks on NBA.com for Euroleague stats? You're lucky they had Splitter playing the right sport.
And YOU are the biggest hypocrite of them all.

ChumpDumper
08-28-2007, 07:34 PM
That is what I deserve an apology for.I'm very sorry you are so ignorant of Tiago Splitter's European career that you have to depend on his draft capsule to form your arguments against him.

timvp
08-28-2007, 07:34 PM
And YOU are the biggest hypocrite of them all.Link?

timvp
08-28-2007, 07:37 PM
I don't see where anyone called ploto a liar. If it was me saying ploto doesn't care about facts when it comes to dashing Spurs fans' hopes, that's a far cry from calling someone a liar. But if it was perceived that way, I will apologize to both ploto and Rasho.

:hat

ChumpDumper
08-28-2007, 07:48 PM
Damn, she left rather abruptly.

Maybe she's watching Splitter right now so she can tell us how bad he is.

T Park
08-28-2007, 08:18 PM
if Ploto feels so slighted, she can hit the road.

Theres enough loving of big white stiffs to go around.

Obstructed_View
08-28-2007, 10:59 PM
Damn, she left rather abruptly.

Maybe she's watching Splitter right now so she can tell us how bad he is.
That would be a refreshing change. She can then base her opinions off of actually having seen him play rather than looking up statistics to back up her contention that he sucks as bad as Rasho does.

Indazone
08-29-2007, 12:21 AM
I'm very sorry you are so ignorant of Tiago Splitter's European career that you have to depend on his draft capsule to form your arguments against him.

Wow..I sense ChumpDumpers has some serious man-love for Tiago. Maybe Scola's jock isn't the one that needs sniffing. LMAO

ChumpDumper
08-29-2007, 12:31 AM
What is it with you and the jockstraps?

Tiago is a good player.

Scola is a better offensive player.

Tiago is better fit for the Spurs.

You can't stop talking or thinking about touching and sniffing other men's jockstraps.

I think we've covered it all here.

mardigan
08-29-2007, 09:43 AM
Wow..I sense ChumpDumpers has some serious man-love for Tiago. Maybe Scola's jock isn't the one that needs sniffing. LMAO
You go into hiding after the weakest smack ever, then come back when everyone leaves to leave this gem.
And btw, speaking of man love, is Chump the one whos user name is Tiagorules?
Cue jock smack

Obstructed_View
08-29-2007, 10:12 AM
It's actually kind of sad that a Rockets fan would think Scola was the savior on a team with Yao and T-Mac.

yavozerb
08-29-2007, 11:07 AM
The rockets will be better as long Yao and T-mac both stay heathy. Scola will help and they will be a top 5 western conference if all 3 stay healthy. Another key is PG position, if they get good play at this position they could be a contender. Alot of if's though and the one that probably will not happen is the health factor of their players..

screw_ston713
08-29-2007, 08:49 PM
lol not too long ago scola was the big hype in this spurs forum, fans were so ready for scola to join the spurs. Now that scola is a rocket, spurs fans are getting excited all over again for a 22yr old euroleague'r who probably will end up like scola and spend 5yrs playing overseas after being drafted then spurs will trade him to another divisional rival for absolutly nothing

ChumpDumper
08-29-2007, 08:50 PM
Splitter will be here next year, he didn't sign a 50 year contract when he was 3 years old.

screw_ston713
08-29-2007, 09:00 PM
im a rocket fan i dont think scola is going to be our savior because we didnt need 1. scola fills a need at pf, thats why he's here. rockets dont need scola to come in scoring 23pts and 11 boards. yao and tracy will draw all the attention with double and triple teams scola just need to be in the right places at the right time.

ChumpDumper
08-29-2007, 09:02 PM
Great, we don't need a savior either. We just won a championship with the one of the shortest, least athletic starting centers in the league.

Besides, Scola is way too good at free throws to ever be a Spur.

T Park
08-29-2007, 09:19 PM
We just won a championship with the one of the shortest, least athletic starting centers in the league.



Yeah Splitter is faster, longer.

I think Splitter is gonna be a hell of a pick up.


Could they have found, FINALLY, the post DRob starting center replacement?

timmy21_4rings
08-30-2007, 01:10 AM
Nothing against Scola. He is a good player. He might even be a good guy to hang out.

But his play would tremendously affect the way our team plays. He will be fit in some teams and will not be of any use with other teams. Hi, you can not ask Phil Jackson to coach Knicks nor ask Brown to coach Bulls of 90s. But I feel that we could have got more value for Scola. I am surprised to see the best value that Spurs FO can get with Scola. May be Rockets just got lucky.

Regarding Tiago Splitter, I feel he can be a good fit in Spurs systems. Let him develop in Euro and we can reap the benefits in the coming years.

On talent Scola wins NOW but in Spurs systems Tiago will be my choice.