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I'm not sure about Splitter's upside. He seems to have stalled in his development the past two seasons. We'll have to see how he responds to the Spurs' coaching and conditioning programs.
Tiago Splitter -
Strengths: Few players his size run the court as well as he does Because of this he regularly beats opposing forwards down the court for quick scores Possesses refined post footwork Combine that with Splitters body control and you have someone who has no trouble getting his shot off in the post An above average rebounder Uses his quickness to obtain most rebounds in and out of his position Double teams rarely effect him due to his above average court vision Excels in the high post as he can use his quick first step to drive past most defenders Possess a very good basketball IQ, understands the game His superb mobility enables him to run the fast break with no problems and finish Moves well without the ball and will work to get open Defensively he is blessed with above average lateral movement and long arms Possesses excellent hands that are both quick and soft which helps him on both sides of the ball Shows soft touch around the basket where he can make a good amount of shots via drop-ins, hooks, or put backs
Weaknesses: Not a prolific offensive player Despite his height and quickness, Splitter is not much of a shot blocker Tends to get frustrated when played physically in the low post This has led some to question his mental toughness Throughout his career he has had health trouble so theres the concern that he could be an injury prone player in the NBAs 82 game schedule Must improve on his upper body strength. How big he can actually get is questionable This impacts him offensively when he fails to finish after contact occurs Despite being one of the most talented players on the court, he tends to defer to teammates and lacks aggressiveness Surprisingly he shows mediocre consistency shooting from mid-range Not a great free throw shooter Still prone to fundamental lapses as he doesnt always secure rebounds which enable easy steals for opposing teams Tends to get out-muscled for rebounding position by stronger opposing forwards
http://www.nbadraft.net/admincp/prof...osplitter.html
Luis Scola -
Strengths: Has great hands, and NBA upper body strength. Will not have the problems that other Euro players like Kirilenko and Gasol have been facing. Also, a good athlete with leaping ability and runs the floor pretty well for a big man. Used to playing high-level basketball at the age of 22. Played in the Euroleague Finals last year which was the highest level of club compe ion in Europe. Also, almost doubling his averages every year (last year: 8.8 ppg, this year: 16.4 PPG). Besides that, used to play in a big rotation which shows that he is not likely to have "staying on the court for longer minutes" syndromes. Has good ball handling skills for a big man. Can go coast to coast and finish it off with a dunk. Can spot a fellow big man from a variety of positions. Also, a good pick'n roll player. Can score by popping up from up to 15 ft, rolling down with control, find an open teammate both on the perimeter as well as down low. Very good at passing to big men, especially from high post to low post which will be beneficiary for zone offenses. Has the experience, the vision and the guts to select the correct pass. Knows how to score around the basket whether it be a fade away, a finger roll or a bank shot. Uses his body well not to get blocked. Also, contains a nice touch with a right hand jump hook.
Weaknesses: Not versatile. Can only play one position, namely power forward and may be a little soft for the position. Probably will have difficulty in defending big PF's. Not possible for him to "steal" some minutes from either C nor SF as he is literally too small for one and too slow/small for the latter. Needs to improve rebounding skills. Good at crushing the boards when running from the wing but not nearly as effective from a stationary position. Must improve upon his 65% free throw shooting.
http://www.nbadraft.net/profiles/luisscola.htm
I think that the Spurs more then made up for losing Luis. And remember Scola is 27 and Splitter is 22, with tons of upside. No question that he will improve in all areas playing next to Tim and in the Spurs system. Thoughts?
I'm not sure about Splitter's upside. He seems to have stalled in his development the past two seasons. We'll have to see how he responds to the Spurs' coaching and conditioning programs.
Oh Yeah I Think The Spurs Made Up For Losing Luis. But Yeah I Did Notice Some Of Splitters Weaknesses When I Watched Him In The Fiba America's Championship. But A Big Thing That I Liked Was He Didn't Play "scared" Which Is A Big Thing I Look At. He Did Look To Get A Little Tired But I Think The Spurs Could Really Help This Guy On His Game. Just Look At Oberto!
A new coach and a new system might be just what the doctor ordered though. Maybe the Spurs can get this guy to stop treading water and keep on swimming forward.
Even if he doesn't improve a whole lot from here on out I still think the 28th pick was a very reasonable price to pay to obtain him.
I was surprised at his mobility. He moves really well for such a big guy. And is it me or is Amare shrinking ? For some reason he seems to have gotten smaller. I know he didn't shrink but it seems like he did. I guess the knee injury really limits his hops more than I thought. That...and he just seems smaller. He's like a big Small Forward more than a Power Forward or Center.
Bakc to Tiago...I think he will be fantastic for us defensively. A little help from our coaching staff and this guy will get better.
At 6'11" 236lbs Tiago is going to make up defensively alot more than what we lost offensively with Scola 6'9" 230lbs. Not to diminish Scola one bit, but at 22 yrs of age, Tiago's ceiling is off the roof. His court vision, basketball IQ and his lateral movement is extraordinary for someone his size.
That being said, I think some of our Houston posters think Scola, Stevie Franchise and Aaron Brooks (who they think can be the Tony stopper) they think that will put ahead of the Spurs and and they will win the Western conf. They are better but only marginally so. Spurs should represent the western conferance.
From the current pics around the web, i really think Splitter's weight is more of the north of 240's lbs.
Look at the guys around him that he'll be playing with on the Spurs. He'll be good offensively
Don't know about his defense.
That's true. I hope when he arrives in San Antonio he can develop his game
??? At best Francis will not have an impact and not take many shots, but at worst he'll be his usual ball hog self and minimize the effectiveness of TMac and Yao.
Aaron Brooks stop TP? With all the other weapons the Spurs have? That's not going to happen.
Spliter will be traded to Mavs next year
I keep hearing everyone saying Splitters potential this and Splitters upside that but until that comes to fruition it means nothing.Right now Scola is much better period. Splitter is ok right now but he still needs a little development before coming to the NBA.The only thing Scola needs is an adjustment period.
Better how? Offensively? Defensively? Does he rebound better, how about does he have better court vision or is he a better help defender? At this point neither has played in an NBA game. Luis will have a one year head start, true but ultimately Splitter may have a bigger upside.
At this point neither has proven that they can play at an NBA level. While Scola is the generally more polished player, he is also the one with more questions about whether or not his game will translate to the NBA. There are few concerns regarding Splitter's translation of game however.
So while Scola might be the more established Euroleague player he has just as much NBA experience as Splitter: none.
They were on the same team and Scola meant a lot more to them than Splitter did.
Sarunas and Macijauskas were hot stuff in Europe too and bombed horribly in the NBA. Sarunas was even considered by most the best in the world outside of the NBA before he stunk it up in Indianna and GS. Meanwhile a lesser European light, Calderon is a far, far better NBA player than him. So being better in Europe doesn't always mean something in the NBA. Remains to be seen if Scola's defensive deficiencies, which to me look pretty glaring in FIBA America, will allow him to stay on the floor. Doesn't look like defense or rebounding are going to be a problem for Splitter.
scola is light years better than splitter
CANT wait to see TD own scolas ass
yes.
Sincerely,
Antoine Rigadeau
Yeah, he did. But remember that Scola is 5 yrs older and has been playing in the Euroleagues since he was 22. Scola's got the age and experience, and for now the skill set, mainly on the offensive end on Splitter. That's one big factor I believe put Splitter's development on hold; lack of playing time. I know, I know if Splitter was all that and a bag of chips then he would have gotten the playing time. Well the experience and skill that the more experienced Scola possessed was a hard obstacle to overcome. Give the young guy some seasoning, some mentoring by Tim to help work on his post moves, a great coach and system, throw in a good strength and conditioning program, and finally let Chip work on his shot and in time you're going to have a very good NBA post player.
I'll even go out on the limb and say that to the Spurs and their system, Splitter would have meant a whole lot more then Scola especially the redundancy at PF, no disrespect to Luis. IMO this was a calculated gamble by the Spurs FO that one day people will say bordered on brilliant.
Last edited by Demo Dick Marcinko; 08-28-2007 at 04:24 AM.
Scola is older than Tiago, but wait and see... right now I'll go with Luis, whenever Spurs got Tiago he'll be probably be as good as Luis.
Fans are so hilarious-- now all the sudden Splitter is the greatest because the Spurs drafted him. Right now Scola is way better than Splitter. Will Splitter someday be better- who knows? He looked like he had a lot of potential a couple of years ago that never materialized. Fans also think that being on the Spurs will sudddenly change players- sure like Nazr and Elson! Yes, I know Splitter is younger and he has upside. But the need to convince yourself that he is better than Scola just to make you feel better about Scola being traded away for nothing is really pretty funny.
...and don 't forget Rasho.
The doubt about Scola's defensive ability is legitimate just like the doubt that Rasho was ever capable of ever playing with any confidence or intensity was. One makes Rasho a non-contributor when it counts and the other may make Scola one.
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