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Axl Van Dam
10-13-2007, 01:02 AM
Who do you think is best suited to take over his spot?

lefty
10-13-2007, 01:05 AM
Who do you think is best suited to take over his spot?


Isiah Thomas

But to answer your question seriously, I would go with JVG or Pat Riley.

Ideally, I would go with Jerry Sloan, but he will never coach another team than Utah.

Roxsfan
10-13-2007, 01:07 AM
First, when will he retire?

In conjunction with TD's retiremnet :wtf







your answer:
Jeff Van Gundy :smokin

bdictjames
10-13-2007, 01:22 AM
I would want a rookie coach to do so.

Mister Sinister
10-13-2007, 01:23 AM
I say JVG.

T Park
10-13-2007, 01:26 AM
either avery johnson, eric musselman, or a young up and coming coach.

Cloud786
10-13-2007, 04:30 AM
Bruce Bowen

TheAuthority
10-13-2007, 04:44 AM
Td

xcoriate
10-13-2007, 05:06 AM
Horry

Texas_Ranger
10-13-2007, 05:49 AM
JVG or Avery.

MagnusKrauss
10-13-2007, 06:11 AM
TD, hopefully. Or Bowen.

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magnusdrakenkrauss

naico
10-13-2007, 06:41 AM
I say JVG.

please no!

Mr.Bottomtooth
10-13-2007, 08:54 AM
Horry.

Hemotivo
10-13-2007, 10:01 AM
Mike Bud.

Steve-O-Matic
10-13-2007, 10:49 AM
I guarantee that it will be someone from within Pop's coaching/player tree, for the purposes of institutional continuity.....namely Avery Johnson, Mike Brown, Mike Budenholzer, etc. Definitely not Jeff Van Gundy.

urunobili
10-13-2007, 10:51 AM
Who do you think is best suited to take over his spot?
AJ

exstatic
10-13-2007, 10:52 AM
JVG's offense would make 4-down look like Phoenix. Just say no. Also, no Avery. He made some gawd-awful decisions in that GS series.

When Tim leaves, they'll probably have to totally switch styles, and put something fun and fast paced on the floor to keep fannies in the seats. That would rule out most of the coaches named here.

ducks
10-13-2007, 11:22 AM
mike brown

picnroll
10-13-2007, 11:27 AM
When Pop and Duncan retire I'd suggest one of these four

http://www.apocalypse-soon.com/images/four_horsemen_apocalypse.jpg

florige
10-13-2007, 11:54 AM
David Robinson. Hopefully we wouldn't go soft with him as the coach... :rolleyes

sharpshooter
10-13-2007, 12:00 PM
david robinson

ShoogarBear
10-13-2007, 12:11 PM
WTF is up with the Jeff Van Gundy love?

Hell, I think I'd rather have Stan than Jeff.

exstatic
10-13-2007, 12:17 PM
WTF is up with the Jeff Van Gundy love?

Hell, I think I'd rather have Stan than Jeff.
Pornstache >>> Balding pate

whottt
10-13-2007, 12:17 PM
JVG is the most over-rated coach in the modern NBA....dude had one good season as a coach, and it was with a team built and taught to play by Pat Riley.

Bruno
10-13-2007, 12:17 PM
Being a great player doesn't mean that you will be a great coach. Chances that Duncan, Robinson, Horry or Bowen become good nba coach are rather slim.
Baring a miracle, Spurs will start a rebuilding plan when Duncan/Pop will retire. I think the best solution for a rebuilding team is a young promising coach who can grow with the team.

whottt
10-13-2007, 12:18 PM
Out of the young coaches...AJ's the best one.

ShoogarBear
10-13-2007, 12:19 PM
*faints*

ehz33satx
10-13-2007, 12:20 PM
JVG would be one of the last coaches I would pick. I would pick P.J. Carlesimo as the coach.

Dre_7
10-13-2007, 12:22 PM
Pop sucks. I hope he gets fired.

Cant wait til hes gone, maybe the Spurs will actually win some without him.

exstatic
10-13-2007, 12:40 PM
Pop sucks. I hope he gets fired.

Cant wait til hes gone, maybe the Spurs will actually win some without him.
If Pop ever got fired, Tim would hang it up IMMEDIATELY. Those two pretty much come as a set.

IceColdBrewski
10-13-2007, 01:02 PM
Avery

whottt
10-13-2007, 01:09 PM
*faints*


Eh...he is the best one out of the young ones.

I've never ripped AJ's coaching ability...

It's his playing ability I had a problem with.


I'd hate Pop as a PG too...

ducks
10-13-2007, 03:07 PM
if pop retires would you want them to trade tp and completely start over
or is tp going be be a legitamate star and hopefully will be able to bring in a big to play with him

QUESTION

whottt
10-13-2007, 03:10 PM
When TP farts does the gas exit from ducks' ears?

QUESTION

T Park
10-13-2007, 03:14 PM
When Pop retires

there will be people that say

"Finally, now we can get a real coach"

No joke.

Summers
10-13-2007, 03:15 PM
All this talk of TD and Pop retiring is making me itchy. Can we not discuss it?

exstatic
10-13-2007, 03:25 PM
All this talk of TD and Pop retiring is making me itchy. Can we not discuss it?
I think we're likely to have 3 more years of Spurs summer, more if Tim extends. You shouldn't be breaking out the itch cream just yet. Put it this way: if you go three years in the other direction, SA had two trophies, had just lost a heartbreaker seriesto the Fakers, and no longer had David and had never won without him. Lots of good stuff can happen in the next three years, as it has in the preceding three.

Summers
10-13-2007, 03:38 PM
I think we're likely to have 3 more years of Spurs summer, more if Tim extends. You shouldn't be breaking out the itch cream just yet. Put it this way: if you go three years in the other direction, SA had two trophies, had just lost a heartbreaker seriesto the Fakers, and no longer had David and had never won without him. Lots of good stuff can happen in the next three years, as it has in the preceding three.

That is a nice way to think of it. :)

E20
10-13-2007, 03:40 PM
When TP farts does the gas exit from ducks' ears?

QUESTION
ducks got pwnzeed3d

Who do I want as the next coach?
Mike Brown
PJ
AJ
Anybody that had familiarity with Pop and the Pop era Spurs. Also, big name coaches wouldn't hurt, but what big name coach would come to a team that would be lottery bound for several year?

timvp
10-13-2007, 04:25 PM
AJ, easily. AJ was born to coach. He got owned by Nellie but Nellie has owned a lot of coaches with his gimmicks. The thing with Nellie is that his gimmicks come back to bite him once teams see what he's doing. Nellie owned Larry Brown + Pop back in the day, so there isn't much shame to it.

In Dallas vs. Spurs v2006, AJ coached as well as any coach has against the Spurs. Up there with Phil Jackson ... but Jackson had much better players.

Ideally, AJ gets let go before Pop retires and becomes Pop's lead assistant until this era of Spurs is over and then AJ takes the reins. Of the other young coaches, the only one who really stresses defense and execution enough to become championship level is Nate McMillan. Even though the Blazers sucked last year, I was impressed with how they played.

Of the older coaches, I wouldn't mind Phil Jackson, Jerry Sloan or Rick Adelman. Larry Brown and Pat Riley are pretty good coaches but they have an extremely short shelf life. Players tune out those two coaches in less than two years.

That said, hopefully Pop has another decade left in him. After all, he's 16 years younger than Hubie Brown.

:smokin

RC's Boss
10-13-2007, 04:39 PM
AJ, easily. That said, hopefully Pop has another decade left in him. After all, he's 16 years younger than Hubie Brown.

:smokin
Yeah, but Pop has a drinkin problem. He's a full blown wino. That's got to take 16 yrs. off your coaching life itself :drunk :lol

whottt
10-13-2007, 04:53 PM
The one thing I question about AJ...will his players tune him out?


I see the potential for that to be a problem and I think that's really the major question about his coaching...

AJ got tuned out here...

RC's Boss
10-13-2007, 05:38 PM
Personally, I like Eric Musselman and Nate Mcmillan.

Axl Van Dam
10-14-2007, 03:27 AM
AJ, easily. AJ was born to coach. He got owned by Nellie but Nellie has owned a lot of coaches with his gimmicks. The thing with Nellie is that his gimmicks come back to bite him once teams see what he's doing. Nellie owned Larry Brown + Pop back in the day, so there isn't much shame to it.

In Dallas vs. Spurs v2006, AJ coached as well as any coach has against the Spurs. Up there with Phil Jackson ... but Jackson had much better players.

Ideally, AJ gets let go before Pop retires and becomes Pop's lead assistant until this era of Spurs is over and then AJ takes the reins. Of the other young coaches, the only one who really stresses defense and execution enough to become championship level is Nate McMillan. Even though the Blazers sucked last year, I was impressed with how they played.

Of the older coaches, I wouldn't mind Phil Jackson, Jerry Sloan or Rick Adelman. Larry Brown and Pat Riley are pretty good coaches but they have an extremely short shelf life. Players tune out those two coaches in less than two years.

That said, hopefully Pop has another decade left in him. After all, he's 16 years younger than Hubie Brown.

:smokin

:toast Seems like only me & Timvp are endorsing Phil Jackson. :toast

SpursWillOwn
10-14-2007, 05:03 AM
Sam Mitchell??

RuffnReadyOzStyle
10-14-2007, 05:49 AM
We're talking about 2012-13 (making TD 36-7) before TD/Pop retire, surely?

People must be very bored. :|

xcoriate
10-14-2007, 06:16 AM
I like the Nate McMillan pick.

Taking Seattle to where he did was also very impressive, that team (based on talent) had no right playing against us in the second round of 05 and they still played physical old school ball.

Not to mention Portland is coming full circle, even before Oden.

xcoriate
10-14-2007, 06:17 AM
Oh, and the Horry suggestion cause well he bball iq is stupidly good and he's expressed interest in a coaching position once his playing days are up.

exstatic
10-14-2007, 07:21 AM
We're talking about 2012-13 (making TD 36-7) before TD/Pop retire, surely?

People must be very bored. :|
I wouldn't bank on anything past the next three years. Tim seems to be shying away from the extension where he can basically name the price. The Spurs always say they never negotiate with him. They just ask how many years, and then fill in the maximum salary under the CBA.

I think Tim could play another effective 3-4 years past this contract, but playing until you drop and banking as much coin as you can have never struck me as Tim Duncan qualities. He also holds his cards pretty close to the vest, so you have to watch his actions because he doesn't announce anything.

What I'm hoping is that he's waiting to opt out next summer and sign a full boat 6 yr deal, but I'll admit to having no idea if that's his actual motivation. I don't think it's going out on a limb to say that if he doesn't opt out, he's probably playing until 2010 and that's it. Similarly, if he signs something new, that contract will be it.

I think a lot of it rides on his health. He had a good healthy season for the first time in 3 years, and he may be waiting to see how next year goes.

Coach Buzzcut
10-14-2007, 01:15 PM
Ahem.

ducks
10-15-2007, 04:16 PM
ducks got pwnzeed3d

Who do I want as the next coach?
Mike Brown
PJ
AJ
Anybody that had familiarity with Pop and the Pop era Spurs. Also, big name coaches wouldn't hurt, but what big name coach would come to a team that would be lottery bound for several year?
well I want Mike Brown and you want mike brown
so we both want on of the coaches


I wanted to know if people would want to trade tp and get younger stars to rebuild with or stike with tp


I do not think anyone got owned

duncan7721
10-15-2007, 06:28 PM
Mike Brown, Avery Johnson or Mike D'antoni

Barbarian
10-15-2007, 06:43 PM
I wanted to know if people would want to trade tp and get younger stars to rebuild with or stike with tp




Stick with TP. Hopefully he'll want to stay though.

DieMrBond
10-15-2007, 08:06 PM
Mike D'antoni?

I'm all for Nate McMillan as mentioned before - what he has done with Seattle and Portland has been very impressive - and he is quite a similar mould to Pop - hard nosed, no nonsense, defensive coach - he'd be a good seamless transition.

smeagol
10-15-2007, 08:31 PM
Jackson, Phil

ShoogarBear
10-15-2007, 08:32 PM
Mike D'antoniOh, hell no.

I'd take Mike Martz before I'd take Mike D'Antoni.

ThomasGranger
10-15-2007, 09:55 PM
I'd like to see Bowen groomed for the job (assuming Pop stays around long enough for Bruce to spend a few years as his assistant before passing the torch).

SequSpur
10-15-2007, 10:22 PM
If Avery coaches the Spurs, I am becoming a fan of some other team.

Barbarian
10-15-2007, 11:10 PM
:shootme Phil Jackson with the Spurs???!!:shootme

Barbarian
10-15-2007, 11:11 PM
D'antoni :vomit:

duncan7721
10-16-2007, 04:10 AM
Well, D'antoni is obviously a coach who loves the fast break, and with TIM and Pop gone i don't think anyone is going to hold them back. TP would like to push the break and so would Manu. I think we will need a new style of play when Pop and Tim are gone and well...there you go.

mystargtr34
10-16-2007, 04:31 AM
Manu will be 35 when Duncan is gone, the only thing he'll be pushing is his walker to the hair regrowth clinic

jinsatx
10-16-2007, 12:11 PM
Pop's replacement is starting his Spurs training this year. He's Quinn Snyder the new coach of our Austin NBDL team. He's a lifelong friend of RC's and thinks along the same wavelength as Pop and RC.

Big P
10-16-2007, 12:43 PM
Hell no to AJ coaching the Spurs.

ambchang
10-16-2007, 12:53 PM
Well, D'antoni is obviously a coach who loves the fast break, and with TIM and Pop gone i don't think anyone is going to hold them back. TP would like to push the break and so would Manu. I think we will need a new style of play when Pop and Tim are gone and well...there you go.

Did you just say Tim and Pop are holding the Spurs back?

Holt's Cat
10-16-2007, 01:05 PM
AJ would be a nice choice after Pop leaves. Only 3 coaches have beaten Tim Duncan in the postseason: Jerry Sloan, Phil Jackson, and Avery Johnson. Of those, AJ was the only coach with less than two future HOFers on his team.

Assuming that Pop retires at the same time that TD does, the Spurs will not be the attractive coaching destination they are today. Sure, money talks, but would the Spurs want to invest that much in a coach when they don't have the talent to be serious contenders?

Unless someone picks him up to be their head coach before Pop leaves, I think the heir apparent is Mike Budenholzer. Mike Bud is Pop's protege, moreso than any other who has served on Pop's coaching staff. After PJ left to whom did Pop turn to be his lead assistant? That's right.

AJ would be a great fit and SA would love him. But with his coaching resume should Dallas run him off I think he wouldn't have a problem finding another job in the league. The timing would have to be right for AJ to take the reigns after Pop.

Mike Bud is under the radar, a guy who hasn't played in the NBA and clawed his way into the NBA as a coach. In many ways his career is reminiscent of Pop's and I think Pop would like to get his favorite assistant into a head coaching gig before he leaves the game.

Holt's Cat
10-16-2007, 01:24 PM
If Pop and TD leave the game in 5 years, Mike Bud will be approximately 41 years old. Assuming the Spurs go the rebuilding route with a younger team and spending a few years in the lottery then they will need a coach who is accustomed to teaching and developing players, as well as one who is well versed defensively and one whom the organization can trust. Having a young coach who won't command a hefty paycheck would be an added attraction. A lot can happen in the next year, let alone the next 5, but I think Budenholzer makes the most sense.

howbouthemspurs
10-16-2007, 02:11 PM
I think Vinny Del Negro shold take over!.. hes great!

Barbarian
10-16-2007, 02:27 PM
Pop's replacement is starting his Spurs training this year. He's Quinn Snyder the new coach of our Austin NBDL team. He's a lifelong friend of RC's and thinks along the same wavelength as Pop and RC.

Is this the same Snyder that was at Missouri?

jinsatx
10-16-2007, 02:38 PM
Yes, this is the same Quinn Snyder who coached Missouri. He's one hell of a coach and he fits the Spurs mold. Besides, once Pop and Tim leave, many of the Spurs players left would have been coached by Quinn. I expect him to be an assistant on the Spurs bench after two years with the Toros.

Barbarian
10-16-2007, 04:13 PM
hmmm....interesting. He's a good coach. He is a bit young though, isnt he? How old is he? If I remember correctly he was the youngest college coach or something like that.

jinsatx
10-16-2007, 05:55 PM
Quinn Snyder is 41 years old. If pop retires 4 years from now, he would be 45, which would not make him a "young" coach. Like I said, I expect him to be a bench assistant in 2 years and move up from there. If you look at the way he has lived his life, "Spurs squeaky clean" and his coaching credentials, he's a perfect Spur fit.

Holt's Cat
10-16-2007, 06:48 PM
Why on Earth would the Spurs go with Quinn Snyder when they already have their young coach in Mike Bud? Besides, Snyder is just biding time until the next well paying collegiate gig opens up.

Bud will turn 41 in 5 years and will have something like 15 years of NBA coaching experience, all at the side of Gregg Popovich.

ShoogarBear
10-16-2007, 07:48 PM
Quin Synder turned out to be a underwhelming college coach who got run off from Mizzou. The D-League is not a springboard for coaches to NBA head positions. The best he could parlay that job into would be an NBA assistant spot somewhere.

Axl Van Dam
10-17-2007, 01:21 AM
:dizzy Mike D' Antoni? :dizzy You got to be shittin' me! :ihit

lefty
10-17-2007, 11:20 AM
Personally, I like Eric Musselman and Nate Mcmillan.


Drug check :madrun

smrattler
10-17-2007, 01:10 PM
I think people are cutting TDs career way short. I bet he'll still be here when TP's contract is up.

Bowen I always thought was an ideal candidate for coaching. But based on his outside interests, I bet he doesn't go that route.

Forget Horry too. Doubt he's interested in that stuff and though he has the spirit you want in a guy, don't know about the skills to be a coach.

If TD is here as long as I think he will be, Pop will be one old ass coach. I'm sure Pop will groom his replacement too, you'll see him coming, he'll be sitting next to him on the bench in his final season.

Speaking of that... any bets on how Pop goes out? Announcing "this will be my last season" during his last training camp? Or sending a fax to the newspaper after his last parade, "I'm done. Thanks. Bye."

Mr.Bottomtooth
10-17-2007, 04:58 PM
Mike D'antoni
:wtf :td

HJNTX
10-17-2007, 09:28 PM
PJ...NOT Avery ...