View Full Version : Cowher: Brady could be target of cheap shot
samikeyp
11-01-2007, 12:10 PM
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/rumors/post/Cowher-Brady-could-be-target-of-cheap-shot?urn=nfl,51840
As the New England Patriots pour it on opponents, fans have to be wondering about it and Tuesday former Pittsburgh Steelers coach Bill Cowher said it: If the Patriots keep running up the score, will someone like Tom Brady be the victim of a retaliatory hit?
The subject of the Pats' late-game tactics is causing a lot of buzz around the NFL, particularly after Sunday's 52-7 victory over the Washington Redskins. On a CBS conference call with reporters Tuesday. Cowher noted the Patriots could be playing a dangerous game.
"At some point if this continues, someone's going to take a cheap shot,'' Cowher said. "Is that worth subjecting your players to if it comes to that?''
A very real possiblity. I am not saying its right nor do I condone it but if a some player feels their team is getting run up on...it could happen.
TheZackAttack!
11-01-2007, 01:22 PM
If it happens, I bet it happens by accident. No need for someone to take a shot at Brady. Karma is a bitch.
dougp
11-01-2007, 01:32 PM
If it happens on purpose, I support the Pat fans lynching the fucker ... like, a serious lynching with torches and everything. You don't like the score run up, play some fuckin defense.
I'm surprised the defensive coordinators of Pats opponents haven't been calling safety blitzes to send a message to Belichick. There is a point in the game where your starters should come out. Brady deserves some hard hits if he's still on the field with a six touchdown lead.
samikeyp
11-01-2007, 03:40 PM
This is why I wouldn't want my starters to be in at the end of a blowout. Someone could get pissed and go for their knees.
dougp
11-01-2007, 03:41 PM
I'm surprised the defensive coordinators of Pats opponents haven't been calling safety blitzes to send a message to Belichick. There is a point in the game where your starters should come out. Brady deserves some hard hits if he's still on the field with a six touchdown lead.
As a coworker pointed out - you'd have to get to Brady first. You'd also have to figure if you want to take a chance, with all the major hitters on the Patriots squad, they might send a message also - and I'm pretty sure it could be a lot worse than what people figure they want to do to Brady.
samikeyp
11-01-2007, 03:44 PM
Unless someone decided to pull a Charles Martin and pop him after the whistle.
Melmart1
11-01-2007, 03:57 PM
I'm surprised the defensive coordinators of Pats opponents haven't been calling safety blitzes to send a message to Belichick. There is a point in the game where your starters should come out. Brady deserves some hard hits if he's still on the field with a six touchdown lead.
What if its not his call to be out on the field? Does he still deserve it?
dougp
11-01-2007, 03:58 PM
Unless someone decided to pull a Charles Martin and pop him after the whistle.
I think if that happened, someone would end up dead.
stretch
11-01-2007, 04:03 PM
Unless someone decided to pull a Charles Martin and pop him after the whistle.
Not a smart idea the way the league protects Brady so fucking much. He gets anything he wants. He could bring a knife on the field and cut someones head off, and the refs would penalize the opponent for running into Brady's knife.
samikeyp
11-01-2007, 04:04 PM
I think if that happened, someone would end up dead.
Or at least banned.
samikeyp
11-01-2007, 04:05 PM
What if its not his call to be out on the field? Does he still deserve it?
That is a good point. Brady is doing what he is told. Personally I wouldn't risk my 3-time champion QB but then again, I am not The Hoodie.
dougp
11-01-2007, 04:07 PM
Or at least banned.
No, I think dead. They have an incredible line up of people I just would not wanna piss off.
samikeyp
11-01-2007, 04:10 PM
True but not until after the season...they want to go 19-0. :)
What if its not his call to be out on the field? Does he still deserve it?
I know it's not his call to be on the field that late. The point is that Belichick is playing his starters long after he has to. I'm not mad at them running up the score as much as I think it's stupid to risk injury to the guys who scored all of those points just to prove to the league that you can do whatever the F you want. It's all fun and games for Belichick until someone's feelings get hurt and they call safety blitzes or put 9 men in the box just to rush the QB and knock Brady down. If Brady or Moss or Welker or anyone get injured playing late in the game, who's going to get the blame? Belichick.
leemajors
11-01-2007, 04:18 PM
This is why I wouldn't want my starters to be in at the end of a blowout. Someone could get pissed and go for their knees.
you don't have to go for his knees, but you can lay him out good.
O-Factor
11-01-2007, 04:45 PM
I know it's not his call to be on the field that late. The point is that Belichick is playing his starters long after he has to. I'm not mad at them running up the score as much as I think it's stupid to risk injury to the guys who scored all of those points just to prove to the league that you can do whatever the F you want. It's all fun and games for Belichick until someone's feelings get hurt and they call safety blitzes or put 9 men in the box just to rush the QB and knock Brady down. If Brady or Moss or Welker or anyone get injured playing late in the game, who's going to get the blame? Belichick.
Actually I heard on the radio earliar in the week that Brady gets pissed when he gets taken out. He wants to be on that field. Im guessing he has Moss now and wants records. I think teams are going to say "fuck it" now and blitz 9 in the fourth Qtr. with the pats up by 40 and Brady is still in the game trying to convert 4th downs and such.
War Peyton Manning getting his 4th straight win against Brady.
O-Factor
11-01-2007, 04:48 PM
This is why I wouldn't want my starters to be in at the end of a blowout. Someone could get pissed and go for their knees.
Kind of like when Wilfork went for Judas Priest Losman's knee
slayermin
11-01-2007, 07:44 PM
I hope Belicheck continues to pad the stats for his offensive players. Defenses will be very motivated to get at Brady. And I don't think it will a cheap shot that gets Brady. It will happen on one of his runs. He slipped a nasty hit on a run last week against the Redskins.
When they play the Giants, I expect him to take some hits, if not sooner.
In an ideal world, Brady would get his leg broken right after he threw his 48th TD and be out for the season.
Light Grenades
11-01-2007, 08:26 PM
In an ideal world it would happen to give everyone else a chance.
exstatic
11-01-2007, 09:12 PM
Punching the ball in against Wash. when you're up 35 in the 4th (and I hate the Redskins) is a bitch move, but about what I'd expect from Cheat-ichek. Word gets around in the league, and if they keep pulling this shit, someone will take Brady out if Hoodie won't. It's fine to say "play some fucking defense", but some teams just aren't very fucking good, and you don't rub their noses in it. Teams will start taking cheap and late shots at Brady if N.E. is up 4-5 touchdowns and still pouring it on.
Melmart1
11-01-2007, 11:26 PM
In an ideal world, Brady would get his leg broken right after he threw his 48th TD and be out for the season.
Your Pats hate is beyond reason. It is NEVER cool to wish injury upon someone, ever.
Now, I agree that the Pats running up the score against hapless teams is shitty. And I do believe that Karma will come back and bite them in the ass for it. However, hoping someone breaks his leg so that your QB can keep his record is stupid. And it's not like the Colts have never left Peyton in so he could pad his stats, either.
Extra Stout
11-02-2007, 12:24 AM
The Patriots are not a nice, classy team. Screwing with them is like screwing with the Mafia. Lots of bad things will happen to the player and the team that takes a cheap shot on Brady.
san antonio spurs
11-02-2007, 01:15 AM
Your Pats hate is beyond reason. It is NEVER cool to wish injury upon someone, ever.
Now, I agree that the Pats running up the score against hapless teams is shitty. And I do believe that Karma will come back and bite them in the ass for it. However, hoping someone breaks his leg so that your QB can keep his record is stupid. And it's not like the Colts have never left Peyton in so he could pad his stats, either.
his lack of perspective more than his hate is mind boggling
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Melmart1
11-02-2007, 01:31 AM
his lack of perspective more than his hate is mind boggling
There are two perspectives that are mind-boggling to me. One is that he wants the individual QB touchdown record to stand ... As I said, the Colts have run up the score many times to ensure that record.
The second thing is he is worried about Peyton vs. Brady records, the one he should be the most worried about is Super Bowl rings. But I guess he realizes Peyton may never catch up :( So better to wish a broken leg upon him.
san antonio spurs
11-02-2007, 01:41 AM
There are two perspectives that are mind-boggling to me. One is that he wants the individual QB touchdown record to stand ... As I said, the Colts have run up the score many times to ensure that record.
The second thing is he is worried about Peyton vs. Brady records, the one he should be the most worried about is Super Bowl rings. But I guess he realizes Peyton may never catch up :( So better to wish a broken leg upon him.
i totally agree with you.
The other perspective i might want to add is health vs stats or records.
(Like Dungy said, just to show his perspective, God doesn't care about football) and he was right. I can't understand how someone may wish harm to anybody due to sports. WTF
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Erect as a Bull
11-02-2007, 01:50 AM
Has Brady ever had a serious Injury? :lol
I dont think he will ever get hurt unless he is on the cover of Madden.
I dont see what the difference is during a 1 TD game or a 6 TD game.
If you get hurt you get hurt.
I dont really think staying in a game will make you get hurt.
people look into that shit to much.
Spawn
11-02-2007, 05:22 AM
I have no problem with a team that tries to run up the score. Screw all this you have to have class talk, it is not your problem if the other teams' feelings are getting hurt. If you do not want them doing it, then stop them. But you must know that it comes with some risks and if somebody decides to take their anger out on Brady or whomever, I would not feel the least bit sorry for the Patriots, they knew the risks which is why if I were Bellichek I would not do this.
samikeyp
11-02-2007, 06:55 AM
You don't think class and sportmanship belongs in sports?
I think there is always a place for both of those and I think they are both in short supply in this "Lemme see if Im on SportsCenter cause I gots ta get mine!" sports world.
That being said, I don't think scoring as many points as you can is a classless act in pro sports. Those guys are paid on both sides of the ball and both teams draw from the same talent pool. Its not like Texas or OU playing SE Little Sisters of the Poor State Tech and leaving McCoy or Bradford in when you are up by 40. Defensive players are paid to stop offensive players and offensive guys are paid to get past them.
Standing over a player and talking shit when he is hurt or cheering when a player is down is classless, scoring points isn't.
Just my .02.
Spawn
11-02-2007, 07:07 AM
You don't think class and sportmanship belongs in sports?
I think there is always a place for both of those and I think they are both in short supply in this "Lemme see if Im on SportsCenter cause I gots ta get mine!" sports world.
That being said, I don't think scoring as many points as you can is a classless act in pro sports. Those guys are paid on both sides of the ball and both teams draw from the same talent pool. Its not like Texas or OU playing SE Little Sisters of the Poor State Tech and leaving McCoy or Bradford in when you are up by 40. Defensive players are paid to stop offensive players and offensive guys are paid to get past them.
Standing over a player and talking shit when he is hurt or cheering when a player is down is classless, scoring points isn't.
Just my .02.
You make a good point and perhaps I chose my words wrong. It is absolutely classless to cheer and taunt an injured player and I for one would never stand for it. I was mainly thinking about people getting all bent out of shape because of a little smack talking and that sort of thing. If you cannot take that well...
samikeyp
11-02-2007, 08:11 AM
True. Most of the trash talk that goes on is really harmless and fun. Its part of the game and you shake hands afterward. There are times when players cross the line but that is usually the exception rather than the rule.
I do agree with you about Brady going down. I would never wish or hope for a player to get injured but just like I don't feel sorry for teams getting scored on, I would not feel sorry for the Pats if someone went down. It works both ways.
stretch
11-02-2007, 08:23 AM
The stuff I hate about the Patriots is how they always brag that they are so mentally strong, dont care or even listen to what other people say about their team, and instead of talking crap, they just do their business, and after the game, get started on the next week instead of getting involved in other pointless nonsense... so I'd like them to explain to me that if they don't care, get involved, or listen to what other people say about them, why are they so fucking quick to mock other teams, or to get offended so easily and are all sensitive when someone merely makes a joke about them??? If they don't listen or care what other people say, then why would they mock things like the Eagles wing flap, or the Steelers Terrible Towel and mocking Steelers fans, or the popcorn joke of T.O. which actually had NOTHING to do with the Patriots? So much for not listening or caring about that stuff, or not letting it get to you... Most of those guys are fucking fake-ass hypocrites, and that is one of the biggest reasons why I can't stand the Patriots. The only guys that I respect on that team are Tom Brady (about as perfect of a model of professionalism in sports today) and Randy Moss (most talented reciever ever, keeps quiet and does his business on the field).
Chris Childs
11-02-2007, 09:19 AM
If some faggot take his frustations out on Brady and injures him because his team sucks major ass, then Cassel replaces Brady and the Patriots are still blowing out teams and are so called ''running up the score'' on opponents, then who should get injured next on the Patriots? Cassel? whos just a replacement for Brady, The whole OL? The WR's? What about the FB and TE?
Remember this is a TEAM sport. It's not just about Brady. Brady isn't doing this on his own. Give credit where credit is due. DB's, Punters, Kickers, LB's, the whole DL are doing there part for team as well. You take out Brady you might as well take out the whole Patriots team. Put Joe Montana in his prime as the 07 dolphins or rams QB, he won't even put up the numbers that he's capable of. You take out Brady and there still ''running up the score'', who you gonna take out next to prevent them from doing such a ''classless act''.
SMH at the way haters and iggants think.
Dirk Nowitzki
11-02-2007, 12:52 PM
If some faggot take his frustations out on Brady and injures him because his team sucks major ass, then Cassel replaces Brady and the Patriots are still blowing out teams and are so called ''running up the score'' on opponents, then who should get injured next on the Patriots? Cassel? whos just a replacement for Brady, The whole OL? The WR's? What about the FB and TE?
Remember this is a TEAM sport. It's not just about Brady. Brady isn't doing this on his own. Give credit where credit is due. DB's, Punters, Kickers, LB's, the whole DL are doing there part for team as well. You take out Brady you might as well take out the whole Patriots team. Put Joe Montana in his prime as the 07 dolphins or rams QB, he won't even put up the numbers that he's capable of. You take out Brady and there still ''running up the score'', who you gonna take out next to prevent them from doing such a ''classless act''.
SMH at the way haters and iggants think.
If Brady goes down, the Pats season is over. Cassel isnt going to do jack shit. He is one guy the Pats CANT lose and still overcome adversity like they did with TY Law etc.
monosylab1k
11-02-2007, 12:55 PM
If Brady goes down, the Pats season is over. Cassel isnt going to do jack shit. He is one guy the Pats CANT lose and still overcome adversity like they did with TY Law etc.
without Brady the Patriots aren't championship material, that much is true. the Colts would wipe the floor with them. But even without Brady they're still a playoff team in the AFC.
with all these weapons, Quincy Carter could lead the Patriots to a 10-6 record. maybe more, considering Quincy led a shitty Dallas team to a 10-6 record once.
it almost sounds like i'm knocking Brady here, but considering this team has a decent shot at going completely undefeated with Brady...
ducks
11-02-2007, 12:59 PM
In an ideal world it would happen to give everyone else a chance.
actually I want a healthy new england team
I think they will get beat in the playoffs by either the chargers or colts
ducks
11-02-2007, 01:00 PM
someone might not take out brady they could take out moss
samikeyp
11-02-2007, 01:16 PM
without Brady the Patriots aren't championship material, that much is true. the Colts would wipe the floor with them. But even without Brady they're still a playoff team in the AFC.
Very true.
Brady is the key.
Chris Childs
11-02-2007, 01:45 PM
Well even if Brady is out, I still think the Patriots are Championship material. They just have too many weapons IMO. At least Brady isn't on the defensive side, right?
I don't know but the only competition I see for the patriots is the colts and no one else. Defense wins championships last time I checked, I mean Trent freakin Dilfer won a title as THE QB for the Ravens so.......
Brady or no Brady, The Patriots D is the key to their overall success this season.
You don't like the score run up, play some fuckin defense.
Amen. And BTW, should Cowher even be talking about this? He coached in the NFL just two seasons ago.
monosylab1k
11-02-2007, 05:32 PM
Amen. And BTW, should Cowher even be talking about this? He coached in the NFL just two seasons ago.
He also developed & coached the most classless player this side of Bill Romanowski. That being Joey Porter.
He also developed & coached the most classless player this side of Bill Romanowski. That being Joey Porter.
I'm not aware, or don't recall, of what classless stuff Porter has done. What did he do?
Erect as a Bull
11-03-2007, 05:12 AM
Remember when the Pats won thier first Title in 2001? And everyone was like "wow, what an amazing story to see Brady come off the bench and lead them to the SB after 9/11." And How great an underdog it was and how nice it was to see the Rams lose.
Now people are like " Fuck Brady and the Pats, I hope they all die in a fire" :lol
BeerIsGood!
11-03-2007, 09:11 AM
Nobody needs to take cheap shots. If you want to send a message don't take a cheap shot on the QB's or anyone else's knees, just put double coverage on Moss and have your CB stand him up while your safety lays him out a couple of plays in a row. That should be enough to get attention.
Aggie Hoopsfan
11-03-2007, 09:46 AM
Belichick and Brady were trying to send a message running it up on Washington last week. So why should anyone be upset about the idea of some other team sending a message to the Pats, particularly if they are down late in the game and Brady's still going deep?
Karma is a bitch.
samikeyp
11-03-2007, 09:57 AM
If they do this against other teams, what are they going to do to the Jets? The team that turned them in? Allegedly.
Could get ugly.
O-Factor
11-03-2007, 11:19 AM
I wonder if Cowher would take a shot late in a game against Brady if he was coaching a team that the pats were running up the score on. Im guessing a big hell yeah.
monosylab1k
11-03-2007, 11:26 AM
If they do this against other teams, what are they going to do to the Jets? The team that turned them in? Allegedly.
Could get ugly.
I'm pretty sure Belichick is gonna try to hang a hundred on them.
DisgruntledLionFan#54,927
11-03-2007, 11:55 AM
I think the magic number in the Jet game is 74.
It wouldn't surprise me if they went for 2 after every TD.
Kandy is Dandy
11-03-2007, 01:05 PM
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/rumors/post/Cowher-Brady-could-be-target-of-cheap-shot?urn=nfl,51840
"At some point if this continues, someone's going to take a cheap shot,'' Cowher said. "Is that worth subjecting your players to if it comes to that?''
A very real possiblity. I am not saying its right nor do I condone it but if a some player feels their team is getting run up on...it could happen.
Anything Cowher says I take with a grain of salt. I never could stand him as a coach. This would be something that he would probably pull, and that is probably why he is suggesting it.
BeerIsGood!
11-03-2007, 01:15 PM
I wonder if Cowher would take a shot late in a game against Brady if he was coaching a team that the pats were running up the score on. Im guessing a big hell yeah.
Cowher would do it because he could personally whip 70% of the Pats' asses and put Belicheat in a coma. That guy always seemed crazy to me.
I'm pretty sure Belichick is gonna try to hang a hundred on them.
I'm pretty sure Brady breaks the single-game TD record in that game.
TheSanityAnnex
11-03-2007, 03:06 PM
I'd like to see Belichick get taken out on the sidelines. Run a few sweeps his way and have the fullback take his knees out. :tu
monosylab1k
11-03-2007, 03:42 PM
I'd like to see Belichick get taken out on the sidelines. Run a few sweeps his way and have the fullback take his knees out. :tu
And then Mr. Fullback will run like a pussy when he sees Rodney Harrison charging for him in a steroid fuled rage.
And then Mr. Fullback will run like a pussy when he sees Rodney Harrison charging for him in a steroid fuled rage.
I wonder if Goodell would suspend Harrison for leaving the bench during an altercation in that scenario.
I'd like to see Belichick get taken out on the sidelines. Run a few sweeps his way and have the fullback take his knees out. :tu
I'd still rather see Brady taken out because they've made this season a deliberate campaign to make him #1 in every single-season QB statistic, and if he gets taken out now the only one he'll get it QB rating, and a lot of people would asterisk that if it's not a complete season.
monosylab1k
11-03-2007, 03:48 PM
I wonder if Goodell would suspend Harrison for leaving the bench during an altercation in that scenario.
He'd suspend him for murdering someone on the field. Belichick resurrected Harrison's career, you don't fuck with the Hoodie unless you want #37 running your ass down and beating you senseless.
He'd suspend him for murdering someone on the field. Belichick resurrected Harrison's career, you don't fuck with the Hoodie unless you want #37 running your ass down and beating you senseless.
I guess you thought I was asking a serious question, or missed the Amare joke, or both.
TampaDude
11-04-2007, 11:23 AM
Belichick and Brady were trying to send a message running it up on Washington last week. So why should anyone be upset about the idea of some other team sending a message to the Pats, particularly if they are down late in the game and Brady's still going deep?
Karma is a bitch.
Actually, Brady is lucky that Joe Gibbs is a class act. Gibbs could have greenlighted Taylor and Landry on a blitz and really put a hurtin' on Brady, and not cared about giving up another TD when the game was already lost...but Gibbs isn't that kind of coach. He even said he had no problem with the Pats running up the score. Of course, there are other coaches in the NFL that may not take the same view. Belichick better be really careful down the stretch with his golden boy.
Spawn
11-04-2007, 02:52 PM
Belichick and Brady were trying to send a message running it up on Washington last week. So why should anyone be upset about the idea of some other team sending a message to the Pats, particularly if they are down late in the game and Brady's still going deep?
Karma is a bitch.
Exactly
Walter Craparita
11-04-2007, 04:06 PM
I will lmao if Brady gets knocked unconscious after running up the score in one of these games.
inconvertible
11-05-2007, 09:13 AM
I can't believe it hasn't happened yet......time for a bounty.
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