View Full Version : I am Officially ON the Kansas Bandwagon !!
Go Chuckie Go !!!
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CubanMustGo
11-04-2007, 09:43 PM
Dude is doing a helluva job as a coach, but he better get a lapband before he keels over.
Thunder Dan
11-04-2007, 09:43 PM
my god he is fat
leroyjenkins
11-04-2007, 09:53 PM
but can he win the big 12? my magic 8 ball says ask again later
Thunder Dan
11-04-2007, 09:59 PM
What clever name would they give if his team played Maryland or Notre Dame? All 3 coaches almost weigh a ton
They have Missouri ( BCS #6 ) their last game of the year, then the big XII championship against #5 OU. Yeah, its gonna be tough but if they win out and win the big XII, it's the JAYHAWKS in the NC game which, even though I'm a longhorn fan, I think is great. Too funny, after all the pre-season USC hype, then LSU and Bucknuts hype.... Kansas goes to the NC game, and even better wins ?
My oh my....that would be just killer !!
tlongII
11-04-2007, 10:07 PM
They have Missouri ( BCS #6 ) their last game of the year, then the big XII championship against #5 OU. Yeah, its gonna be tough but if they win out and win the big XII, it's the JAYHAWKS in the NC game which, even though I'm a longhorn fan, I think is great. Too funny, after all the pre-season USC hype, then LSU and Bucknuts hype.... Kansas goes to the NC game, and even better wins ?
My oh my....that would be just killer !!
That will never happen.
K-State Spur
11-04-2007, 10:15 PM
What clever name would they give if his team played Maryland or Notre Dame? All 3 coaches almost weigh a ton
weis is a fatty - no doubt. but mangino is a whole different level of obese.
That will never happen.
Oh yeah, that's right, USC was picked to win it all this year.
:rolleyes
weis is a fatty - no doubt. but mangino is a whole different level of obese.
If his players don't perform well, he eats them. It's true. There are no less than 4 players on his roster each year that come up missing.
ShoogarBear
11-05-2007, 01:52 AM
http://thefeed.blogs.com/photos/uncategorized/mangino_t450.jpgRick Majerus says: "wow"!
Thunder Dan
11-05-2007, 07:40 AM
They have Missouri ( BCS #6 ) their last game of the year, then the big XII championship against #5 OU. Yeah, its gonna be tough but if they win out and win the big XII, it's the JAYHAWKS in the NC game which, even though I'm a longhorn fan, I think is great. Too funny, after all the pre-season USC hype, then LSU and Bucknuts hype.... Kansas goes to the NC game, and even better wins ?
My oh my....that would be just killer !!
umm the Buckeyes are rebuilding this year there was no hype, and they still doubt them (even I do). Ohio State has 3 seniors that start and 5 total. So I'm not sure what Buckeyes hype your talking about.
NoMoneyDown
11-05-2007, 10:41 AM
Kansas has been on fire and look to tough to beat, but I seriously doubt they will go undefeated this year. They are near unstoppable at home, but they are a different beast on the road:
@KSU: won by 6
@Colorado: won by 5
@TAMU: won by 7
Mediocre opposition, IMHO. They have a good chance beating OSU this week and even Mizzou in their final game, but like another poster said, if they play in the B12 Championship vs. OU, they'll lose. And, heaven forbid they DO play for the NC vs. someone like tOSU, it will be an embarrassing loss to an otherwise stellar season.
They've had the luxuary this year of playing weak B12 teams in a season where the B12 is weak overall. Couple that with playing only 1/3 of their games on the road, and that's part of their success this year. Yes, they are a good team, but not Top-5 (and maybe not even Top-10). IMHO.
K-State Spur
11-05-2007, 12:12 PM
i don't know about unstoppable. their most impressive home win is UNL - by a large margin.
SrA Husker
11-05-2007, 12:17 PM
Kansas has been on fire and look to tough to beat, but I seriously doubt they will go undefeated this year. They are near unstoppable at home, but they are a different beast on the road:
@KSU: won by 6
@Colorado: won by 5
@TAMU: won by 7
Mediocre opposition, IMHO. They have a good chance beating OSU this week and even Mizzou in their final game, but like another poster said, if they play in the B12 Championship vs. OU, they'll lose. And, heaven forbid they DO play for the NC vs. someone like tOSU, it will be an embarrassing loss to an otherwise stellar season.
They've had the luxuary this year of playing weak B12 teams in a season where the B12 is weak overall. Couple that with playing only 1/3 of their games on the road, and that's part of their success this year. Yes, they are a good team, but not Top-5 (and maybe not even Top-10). IMHO.
Honestly I think tOSU is in the same boat as Kansas. The Big 10 is quite easy to get through and they didn't play anyone non-con. Sure, the schedule wasn't as easy as KU's but we still don't know much about either team.
NoMoneyDown
11-05-2007, 01:13 PM
i don't know about unstoppable. their most impressive home win is UNL - by a large margin.
Their smallest margin of victory so far at home is by 32 points. I would think that qualifies as 'near unstoppable'.
:spless:
NoMoneyDown
11-05-2007, 01:15 PM
Honestly I think tOSU is in the same boat as Kansas. The Big 10 is quite easy to get through and they didn't play anyone non-con. Sure, the schedule wasn't as easy as KU's but we still don't know much about either team.
Ok. St. needs to keep their regular coaching staff in the first half, and bring in a new corpse of coaches for the 2H. At least, against UT.
Thunder Dan
11-05-2007, 01:34 PM
Honestly I think tOSU is in the same boat as Kansas. The Big 10 is quite easy to get through and they didn't play anyone non-con. Sure, the schedule wasn't as easy as KU's but we still don't know much about either team.
except Ohio State has about 15 5 star recruits and 20 something 4 star recruits so the talent is there. Ohio State has guys that will be playing the the NFL in the next couple years and Kansas has guys that will watch them playing the NFL in the next couple of years.
Holt's Cat
11-05-2007, 02:21 PM
If KU makes it through the rest of their schedule + Big 12 title game undefeated then they deserve a shot at the national title.
SrA Husker
11-05-2007, 02:45 PM
edit double post.
SrA Husker
11-05-2007, 02:45 PM
except Ohio State has about 15 5 star recruits and 20 something 4 star recruits so the talent is there. Ohio State has guys that will be playing the the NFL in the next couple years and Kansas has guys that will watch them playing the NFL in the next couple of years.
Yes, and I think the USC, Notre Dame, Nebraskas of the world have proven that star ratings mean jack shit at this point in the season. If a team has heart and good coaching, anything can happen.
Thunder Dan
11-05-2007, 02:57 PM
Yes, and I think the USC, Notre Dame, Nebraskas of the world have proven that star ratings mean jack shit at this point in the season. If a team has heart and good coaching, anything can happen.
Well you might have a point with USC, but Ohio State has more talent than both Notre Dame and Nebraska. I mean your comparing a team that has won a National Championship, and has finished in the top 5 5 out of the last 6 years. They are in the National Title hunt every year.
I mean say what you want about the Big 10, but they still win bowl games. We got killed in the NCFCG last year I know, but Wisconsin, the 3rd best in the Big 10 last year, beat the second best team in the SEC last year. We gave Texas all they could handle in 2005, with our backup QB nontheless. We have lost one bowl game since 2002, and both Big 12 schools we played got run out of the stadium (even though they finished higher in the Big 12 than we did in the Big 10)
Ohio State plays USC in week 2 next year, and I'm sure of 2 things: 1)OSU will not get blown out, they might not win, but they won't be blown out and 2) even if we do win, it will not be enough for people to diminish their accomplishments. It will be like last year when we went into Texas and beat Texas. People act like that game meant nothing because Texas wasn't that good.
If tOSU won that game vs. Florida, we all know this argument never arises.
umm the Buckeyes are rebuilding this year there was no hype, and they still doubt them (even I do). Ohio State has 3 seniors that start and 5 total. So I'm not sure what Buckeyes hype your talking about.
OSU has built in 'front end' hype because they are OSU. Same with Florida, Texas, OU, USC...others. NOTRE DAME.... Kansas has never been hyped in CFB. That's all I'm saying. I guess I should rephrase that with 'popular picks' or 'darlings of CFB'.
With that said, not here as much, but on other boards I see a lot of snobbery going on about Kansas. Sure they'll likely lose at Missouri or the big XII championship, WHICH IS PLAYED HERE IN SAN ANTONIO BTW, but it will be a great game. I'm definiately going to make that one.
Thunder Dan
11-05-2007, 03:05 PM
OSU has built in 'front end' hype because they are OSU. Same with Florida, Texas, OU, USC...others. NOTRE DAME.... Kansas has never been hyped in CFB. That's all I'm saying. I guess I should rephrase that with 'popular picks' or 'darlings of CFB'.
With that said, not here as much, but on other boards I see a lot of snobbery going on about Kansas. Sure they'll likely lose at Missouri or the big XII championship, WHICH IS PLAYED HERE IN SAN ANTONIO BTW, but it will be a great game. I'm definiately going to make that one.
But that front end hype is justified. tOSU was ranked 12th at the start of the season I believe, not too high for a team that lost so many players to the NFL draft, and not too low for a team that was in the BCS championship game the year before and is filled with 4&5 star recruits. That's why people don't take teams like Kansas, Boise St, BC, and Rutgers seriously it's because we all know that there is a huge talent disparity beween those schools and the schools you mentioned that get hype.
Matter of fact, since I just thought of it, I went out and bought two tickets. $65 each for upper endzone via stub-hub.
SrA Husker
11-05-2007, 03:10 PM
Well you might have a point with USC, but Ohio State has more talent than both Notre Dame and Nebraska. I mean your comparing a team that has won a National Championship, and has finished in the top 5 5 out of the last 6 years. They are in the National Title hunt every year.
I mean say what you want about the Big 10, but they still win bowl games. We got killed in the NCFCG last year I know, but Wisconsin, the 3rd best in the Big 10 last year, beat the second best team in the SEC last year. We gave Texas all they could handle in 2005, with our backup QB nontheless. We have lost one bowl game since 2002, and both Big 12 schools we played got run out of the stadium (even though they finished higher in the Big 12 than we did in the Big 10)
Ohio State plays USC in week 2 next year, and I'm sure of 2 things: 1)OSU will not get blown out, they might not win, but they won't be blown out and 2) even if we do win, it will not be enough for people to diminish their accomplishments. It will be like last year when we went into Texas and beat Texas. People act like that game meant nothing because Texas wasn't that good.
If tOSU won that game vs. Florida, we all know this argument never arises.
Nice job bringing up past year arguments, as if it has any relevence on this season. Sure you've lost only 1 bowl game since 2002, but if you go back to say, 1990, you can add 8 more losses onto that. Selective history.
The Big 12 has also gathered impressive bowl wins against the Big 10 in general, such as Texas over Iowa, Texas Tech over Minnesota last year and Nebraska over Michigan the year before.
The fact is, absolutely nothing you said took away from what Kansas has accomplished this season, and face it, the schedule they played is pretty similar to Ohio State's this year as none have faced anyone in the Top 30 yet.
I'm still trying to figure out how your game against USC got brought up into this conversation about Kansas.
SrA Husker
11-05-2007, 03:13 PM
Matter of fact, since I just thought of it, I went out and bought two tickets. $65 each for upper endzone via stub-hub.
You got screwed. $60 is face value for those tickets, and are still available from the Box office or ticketmaster.
NoMoneyDown
11-05-2007, 03:13 PM
With that said, not here as much, but on other boards I see a lot of snobbery going on about Kansas. Sure they'll likely lose at Missouri or the big XII championship, WHICH IS PLAYED HERE IN SAN ANTONIO BTW, but it will be a great game. I'm definiately going to make that one.
I think a lot has to do with the fact they haven't played much stiff competition and some having to do with their home/away schedule (and some to do with their talent, of course).
I did a check of LSU for comparison of teams they've not only beaten who were Top-25 at the time, but also the number of Top-25 teams those teams beat:
LSU
Top-25 record: 5-1
Current Top-25 record: 4-1
Top-25 record of teams they beat: 10-7
Kansas
Top-25 record: 1-0
Current Top-25 record: 0-0
Top-25 record of teams they beat: 2-12
Anyone having a no-loss record this point in the season has got to be good - no question - but you have to really put it in perspective how good they really are by the teams they've played and how those teams were/are stacked.
What also concerns me about Kansas is their narrow victories on the road against unranked teams (KSU was unranked at the time, but not now). An average MOV of 6pts isn't all that impressive against unranked teams on the road.
BTW, a good friend of mine is a Jayhawk alumnus, and, while he is proud of his team's accomplishments, he also understands that they are probably not at the same caliber as say tOSU, LSU, or even Oregon.
But that front end hype is justified. tOSU was ranked 12th at the start of the season I believe, not too high for a team that lost so many players to the NFL draft, and not too low for a team that was in the BCS championship game the year before and is filled with 4&5 star recruits. That's why people don't take teams like Kansas, Boise St, BC, and Rutgers seriously it's because we all know that there is a huge talent disparity beween those schools and the schools you mentioned that get hype.
You'll get no argument from me on this.
I think a lot has to do with the fact they haven't played much stiff competition and some having to do with their home/away schedule (and some to do with their talent, of course).
I did a check of LSU for comparison of teams they've not only beaten who were Top-25 at the time, but also the number of Top-25 teams those teams beat:
LSU
Top-25 record: 5-1
Current Top-25 record: 4-1
Top-25 record of teams they beat: 10-7
Kansas
Top-25 record: 1-0
Current Top-25 record: 0-0
Top-25 record of teams they beat: 2-12
Anyone having a no-loss record this point in the season has got to be good - no question - but you have to really put it in perspective how good they really are by the teams they've played and how those teams were/are stacked.
What also concerns me about Kansas is their narrow victories on the road against unranked teams (KSU was unranked at the time, but not now). An average MOV of 6pts isn't all that impressive against unranked teams on the road.
BTW, a good friend of mine is a Jayhawk alumnus, and, while he is proud of his team's accomplishments, he also understands that they are probably not at the same caliber as say tOSU, LSU, or even Oregon.
Yeah but understand if they beat #6 Mizz and #5 OU, that legitimizes them and my money is, they'll get the nod. LSU, with help from Les Miles, is actually lucky not to have 3 losses. The recent near loss to bama at home comes to mind...
You got screwed. $60 is face value for those tickets, and are still available from the Box office or ticketmaster.
I didn't buy 500, I bought 2.
Thunder Dan
11-05-2007, 03:24 PM
Nice job bringing up past year arguments, as if it has any relevence on this season. Sure you've lost only 1 bowl game since 2002, but if you go back to say, 1990, you can add 8 more losses onto that. Selective history.
The Big 12 has also gathered impressive bowl wins against the Big 10 in general, such as Texas over Iowa, Texas Tech over Minnesota last year and Nebraska over Michigan the year before.
The fact is, absolutely nothing you said took away from what Kansas has accomplished this season, and face it, the schedule they played is pretty similar to Ohio State's this year as none have faced anyone in the Top 30 yet.
I'm still trying to figure out how your game against USC got brought up into this conversation about Kansas.
I'm just simply saying that Ohio State and Kansas are rated exactly where they should be on talent alone. Man that 76 spot put a big up your ass
K-State Spur
11-05-2007, 03:33 PM
Their smallest margin of victory so far at home is by 32 points. I would think that qualifies as 'near unstoppable'.
:spless:
4 of those victories were over teams that EVERYBODY in the Big 12 would have rolled. The fifth was against Baylor, who the other 11 teams in this conference would roll at home.
The margin of victory over UNL is really the only thing to be [mildly] impressed about. And bear in mind, the KU defense struggled to stop the Huskers from scoring in that game as well.
They're not a great team. They're a good to very good team that has played a favorable schedule and has yet to encounter any adversity.
Remember, K-State/Colorado/A&M (3 victories that don't look as impressive today as they did at the time) ALL had the ball with an opportunity to beat KU on their final drives.
K-State Spur
11-05-2007, 03:36 PM
I'm just simply saying that Ohio State and Kansas are rated exactly where they should be on talent alone. Man that 76 spot put a big up your ass
who cares about talent alone? because florida state & miami are still loaded with 4 & 5 star recruits, should we throw them in the top 10?
Thunder Dan
11-05-2007, 03:40 PM
who cares about talent alone? because florida state & miami are still loaded with 4 & 5 star recruits, should we throw them in the top 10?
well we saw how the talent level of Florida St. matched up with the talent level of BC this weekend and Miami against A&M earlier in the year.
NoMoneyDown
11-05-2007, 04:19 PM
4 of those victories were over teams that EVERYBODY in the Big 12 would have rolled. The fifth was against Baylor, who the other 11 teams in this conference would roll at home.
The margin of victory over UNL is really the only thing to be [mildly] impressed about. And bear in mind, the KU defense struggled to stop the Huskers from scoring in that game as well.
They're not a great team. They're a good to very good team that has played a favorable schedule and has yet to encounter any adversity.
Remember, K-State/Colorado/A&M (3 victories that don't look as impressive today as they did at the time) ALL had the ball with an opportunity to beat KU on their final drives.
:rolleyes
All I said was that they have been 'nearly unstoppable' at home SO FAR. Read my other posts and you'll see that you are in agreement with me about everything else regarding them.
NoMoneyDown
11-05-2007, 04:22 PM
Yeah but understand if they beat #6 Mizz and #5 OU, that legitimizes them and my money is, they'll get the nod. LSU, with help from Les Miles, is actually lucky not to have 3 losses. The recent near loss to bama at home comes to mind...
That's a pretty big "IF". I think they MAY have a chance against Mizzou, since they are playing at home. OU would simply derail them, but stranger things have happened in the B12 championship.
Regardless of whether LSU may have escaped a loss or two - they WON. And that was against a LOT stronger competition than Kansas has played thus far.
LSU still has to go through and SEC champ game as well. Who knows what will happen. Although I like LSU and was rooting for them, they are so frickin' unpredictable. My hope for Kansas is nothing more than rooting for an underdog and against OU. I have to justify it somehow. Of course, no justification is needed to hate the Sooners but I have to do a little bit of acrobatics to hate LSU.
K-State Spur
11-05-2007, 06:11 PM
:rolleyes
All I said was that they have been 'nearly unstoppable' at home SO FAR. Read my other posts and you'll see that you are in agreement with me about everything else regarding them.
actually, you said that they "are" near unstoppable. nonetheless, reading the rest of your posts, it does appear that we are in agreement on this particular topic. no reason to argue semantics.
SanAntonioBuckeye
11-06-2007, 09:29 AM
If KU makes it through the rest of their schedule + Big 12 title game undefeated then they deserve a shot at the national title.
I agree...
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