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Vinnie_Johnson
11-21-2007, 10:42 PM
Who you got and why? I would take Owens he brings it every practice and every game. He has never quit on his team. Moss is great too but took those Oakland years off.
Vinnie_Johnson
11-21-2007, 10:50 PM
http://assets.espn.go.com/photo/2007/1121/nfl_moss_owens_2panel_580.jpg
Extra Stout
11-21-2007, 11:05 PM
Moss when motivated as he is now may be not just the best WR in football, but the best player.
johnsmith
11-21-2007, 11:14 PM
Who you got and why? I would take Owens he brings it every practice and every game. He has never quit on his team. Moss is great too but took those Oakland years off.


See, I could go either way. On the one hand I agree with you that TO is a work horse, but on the other hand, Moss makes catches that no other receiver in the league could........ever.

Hmmmm..........Moss.
johnsmith
11-21-2007, 11:15 PM
Both of them stopped being dickheads for a season though.

That's good I suppose.
Vinnie_Johnson
11-21-2007, 11:19 PM
Both of them stopped being dickheads for a season though.

That's good I suppose.

:clap :toast
Vinnie_Johnson
11-21-2007, 11:20 PM
Both are HOF bound and both are better then Number 85 IMO.
monosylab1k
11-21-2007, 11:37 PM
He has never quit on his team
No, he just destroys the team and bashes the QB publicly. That's much better.
Vinnie_Johnson
11-21-2007, 11:39 PM
No, he just destroys the team and bashes the QB publicly. That's much better.

So your saying Mcscab had nothing to do with it. lol :donkey
Vinnie_Johnson
11-22-2007, 12:52 AM
Come on now sound now guys and gals!
stretch
11-22-2007, 01:12 AM
Owens is more complete, and can do everything well, doesn't really lack in any area.

Moss is the most dangerous threat in NFL history. He is the only guy you can say is just a TD waiting to happen every down, EVER. He's not a very good route runner or blocker, but he more than makes up for that with his playmaking ability and speed.

If I was building a team, I would take Moss, because he is that unique threat that the NFL has never seen before, and his deep presence takes a LOT of pressure of the entire rest of the team, allowing average players to look very solid, such as Wes Welker and Nate Burleson.
leemajors
11-22-2007, 01:37 AM
side note, mcnabb's finger is hurt now.
BeerIsGood!
11-22-2007, 03:10 AM
If I had a team with a big time QB, good O line, and several complementary receivers to catch the underneath stuff and keep defenses honest then I definitely take Moss. He'll smoke people if you go 1 on 1 and he'll open up the underneath routes if you double over the top.

If I need a workhorse WR who will go over the middle, in the flats, motion out to or out of the slot, and catch first downs then I go with TO.
mardigan
11-22-2007, 06:14 AM
I would take Moss over any reciever ever, I think he is by far the most disruptive force ever at his position. I love T.O., but the only thing he really does better is run block.
Spawn
11-22-2007, 06:25 AM
I would take Moss over any reciever ever, I think he is by far the most disruptive force ever at his position. I love T.O., but the only thing he really does better is run block.

100% agree. I love TO as well but come on, you got to pick Moss. I think a better question would you rather have TO or Marvin Harrison.
mffl89
11-22-2007, 12:13 PM
Marvin Harrison
BeerIsGood!
11-22-2007, 01:54 PM
I would take Moss over any reciever ever, I think he is by far the most disruptive force ever at his position. I love T.O., but the only thing he really does better is run block.

He's only effective if you have a QB and O line good enough to get him the ball deep when he wants it. Otherwise, he'll quit on the team.
BeerIsGood!
11-22-2007, 01:54 PM
Of course, so will TO.
Extra Stout
11-22-2007, 02:45 PM
Owens is more complete, and can do everything well, doesn't really lack in any area.

Moss is the most dangerous threat in NFL history. He is the only guy you can say is just a TD waiting to happen every down, EVER. He's not a very good route runner or blocker, but he more than makes up for that with his playmaking ability and speed.

If I was building a team, I would take Moss, because he is that unique threat that the NFL has never seen before, and his deep presence takes a LOT of pressure of the entire rest of the team, allowing average players to look very solid, such as Wes Welker and Nate Burleson.
Moss has been running perfect routes this year, because he is highly motivated.
Yuixafun
11-22-2007, 04:29 PM
Moss is the better receiver and less cancerous.

In Oakland Moss's lack of effort was a byproduct of his horrid surroundings (why bust your ass when the team is going nowhere and has no chance of going anywhere, and the QB can't deliver the ball), while Owens down in Dallas helped poison the water, and has left a trail of broken locke rooms in his wake.

I'd rather have someone who takes plays off here and there over one who constantly is at odds with coaches and teamates and has a need for the spotlight. When the going gets rough his mouth starts running.

I'm not condoning lack of effort, but go with the lesser evil. And once properly motivated and in good surroundings Moss has been the ideal teammate (according to Patriots players).

Owens is the type that even when in a good situation will find reasons to be unhappy.

Both are elite receivers, but Moss is faster and has better hands. He can make catches that no one else can. Sometimes Owens has alligator arms. He's a beast to tackle, and a great competitor... but I'd rather have a receiver that can come down with the ball in double coverage and stretch the field with his speed and reputation.

Give me Moss all day.
ShoogarBear
11-22-2007, 05:56 PM
Moss is the better receiver and less cancerous.That's an interesting statement, but you make a good point.

Moss is a cancer when you have a bad team.

T.O. can be a cancer even if you have a good team. I think the clock may still be ticking on him next year.
VinnyTestesVerde
11-23-2007, 02:36 AM
Owens is more complete, and can do everything well, doesn't really lack in any area.

Moss is the most dangerous threat in NFL history. He is the only guy you can say is just a TD waiting to happen every down, EVER. He's not a very good route runner or blocker, but he more than makes up for that with his playmaking ability and speed.

If I was building a team, I would take Moss, because he is that unique threat that the NFL has never seen before, and his deep presence takes a LOT of pressure of the entire rest of the team, allowing average players to look very solid, such as Wes Welker and Nate Burleson.

:toast i'm an enormous cowboys homer, but i have to agree with this. TO is greatness, but Moss is just a freak in the right situation. last year when the colts beat the pats in the AFC championship i remember thinking "yeah i guess the pats run is kinda over."

i was stupid. i'd take moss.
Horry For 3!
11-23-2007, 03:03 AM
That's an interesting statement, but you make a good point.

Moss is a cancer when you have a bad team.

T.O. can be a cancer even if you have a good team. I think the clock may still be ticking on him next year.
I don't see Owens being cancerous this year or next or any others if he is still with the Cowboys. Tony and him have a good connection and he likes Wade Phillips a lot.



As far as who I would take. The obvious answer is Randy Moss.
SRJ
11-23-2007, 08:18 PM
Moss.
Slinkyman
11-23-2007, 08:32 PM
I don't see Owens being cancerous this year or next or any others if he is still with the Cowboys. Tony and him have a good connection and he likes Wade Phillips a lot.



As far as who I would take. The obvious answer is Randy Moss.


We'll see about TO, but now that Romo has a new huge contract (remember it was Mcnabbs big deal without him getting a new deal that pissed TO off) i can see TO being a bitch this offseason demanding more money. Who do you think thinks he's the reason Romo is so good?

that being said i'd take Moss.
Vinnie_Johnson
11-23-2007, 09:12 PM
We'll see about TO, but now that Romo has a new huge contract (remember it was Mcnabbs big deal without him getting a new deal that pissed TO off) i can see TO being a bitch this offseason demanding more money. Who do you think thinks he's the reason Romo is so good?

that being said i'd take Moss.

If he keeps playing like this Jerry will give it to him.
NBA Junkie
11-25-2007, 11:33 AM
If he keeps playing like this Jerry will give it to him.
...Or not!
Obstructed_View
11-25-2007, 11:42 AM
Harrison. As a giant Cowboys fan TO's starting to win me over (with his attitude; I knew he could play), but people RARELY stop being who they are, and I don't trust him. Both TO and Moss are men among boys when they bring it, but there's a huge risk with either. We'll see how each of them reacts when things aren't going amazingly well.