New Hampshire Polls

[Nbadan]

Post the most recent you see....

Obama may be making Iowa a win-or-go-home contest since New Hampshire seems a Clinton lock and NH doesn't like Mike Huckabee as much as Iowa either....

Clinton, Romney still ahead in three NH polls
By JOHN DISTASO
Senior Political Reporter


Three New Hampshire polls being released today show Hillary Clinton and Mitt Romney holding onto their leads.

A new poll of 1,343 likely primary voters taken Nov. 28 to Dec. 2 by the Marist College Institute for Public Opinion shows Democrat Clinton leading Barack Obama, 37 to 23 percent, with John Edwards at 18 percent and no other candidate in double digits.

The poll also shows Republican Romney, with 29 percent, leading John McCain and Rudy Giuliani, now tied with 17 percent each. Mike Huckabee, for the first time in a Marist poll, breaks into double digits with 11 percent.

The results were provided to UnionLeader.com this afternoon by another organization.

In a November Marist poll, Clinton led Obama 36 to 25 percent and Romney led Giuliani 33 to 22 percent, with McCain at 13 percent. The poll’s margins of error are 4 percent for the Democrats and 4.5 percent for the Republicans.

An ABC News/Washington Post poll will show Romney leading a second-place McCain, 37 to 20 percent with 16 percent for Giuliani and 9 percent for Huckabee.

A new Zogby poll shows Clinton’s lead over Obama shrinking to 32 to 21 percent from 38 to 23 percent in late September. Support for Edwards increased from 12 to 16 percent.

Details of the ABC/Post and Zogby polls, such as the sizes of the surveys and the margins of error, were not immediately available.

For more political news, see the Granite Status political column in the New Hampshire Union Leader and on UnionLeader.com tomorrow.

[JoeChalupa]

Go Obama!!

[Nbadan]

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Barack Obama has chipped away at Hillary Clinton's lead in New Hampshire locking the Democrats in a statistical tie a month before the first presidential primary, according to a CNN/WMUR Poll released Wednesday.

Clinton has dropped 5 percentage points since a previous CNN/WMUR survey in November, while Obama has gained 8 percentage points, according to the poll conducted by the University of New Hampshire Survey Center. Clinton is now at 31 percent to Obama's 30 percent. New Hampshire's primary is set for January 8.

Clinton's 5-percentage point drop appears to have been largely due to the loss of support among women.

"Clinton's support among Democratic women in New Hampshire has dropped from 43 percent to 33 percent," Holland said. "By contrast, her support among men dropped only 1 point to 27 percent in that same time period."

CNN (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x3098897)

[JoeChalupa]

The latest Rasmussen Poll:

Survey of 841 Likely Dem Primary Voters
December 11, 2007

New Hampshire Dem Primary

Barack Obama 31%

Hillary Clinton 28%

John Edwards 17%

Bill Richardson 8%

Joe Biden 4%

Dennis Kucinich 3%

Mike Gravel 1%

Chris Dodd 0%

[Nbadan]

Par for course, Clinton's lead has evaporated in New Hampshire....


Barack Obama has come from behind to turn the Democratic presidential race in New Hampshire into a toss-up, according to a new Monitor opinion poll. The results - which show Obama with a one-point edge over Hillary Clinton - mirror other polls released this week, indicating that Clinton's once-imposing lead has evaporated in the run-up to New Hampshire's Jan. 8 primary.

The poll suggests that the Democratic race could hinge on the turnout of undeclared voters, who aren't registered with either political party. Much of Obama's backing comes from undeclared voters, while registered Democrats make up the bulk of Clinton's support. In New Hampshire, undeclared voters can vote in either party primary, giving them sway in both contests.

"The more undeclared voters that decide to vote in the Democratic primary, the better chance Obama wins," said Del Ali, president of Research 2000, the Maryland-based nonpartisan polling firm that conducted the poll for the Monitor on Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday. "What Hillary Clinton has to hope is that more of the established Democrats come out to vote."

...

Of the likely Democratic primary voters surveyed for the Monitor poll, 37 percent aren't registered with a political party. When it came to those undeclared voters, Obama trounced his opponents: 40 percent of undeclared voters likely to vote in the Democratic primary backed Obama, compared with 23 percent for Clinton and 13 percent for former North Carolina senator John Edwards.

Clinton, in contrast, won the support of more registered Democrats: 36 percent said they'd vote for Clinton, compared with 27 percent for Obama and 21 percent for Edwards.

...

Apart from undeclared voters, Obama now draws considerable support from women. Of the female, likely Democratic voters surveyed, 34 percent say they'd choose Obama, compared with 32 percent for Clinton. Female voters have widely been considered a key demographic for Clinton, the former first lady and U.S. senator from New York.

...

Obama, Clinton and Edwards were the only Democratic candidates to win double-digit support in the poll - 32 percent of likely Democratic primary voters surveyed backed Obama, 31 percent chose Clinton, and 18 percent went with Edwards. Richardson followed with 8 percent support. Dennis Kucinich, Joe Biden and Chris Dodd all placed in the low single digits.

The results of the Monitor poll were similar to those of a University of New Hampshire poll released earlier this week. That survey showed Clinton leading Obama by just one percentage point, well within the margin of error.

In the Monitor's July poll, 33 percent of likely Democratic voters surveyed chose Clinton, while 25 percent picked Obama. Edwards won 15 percent of the vote in that poll, while Richardson took 7 percent.

Concord (http://www.concordmonitor.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071214/FRONTPAGE/712140350)

[Nbadan]

Most recent New Hampshire poll results:

Clinton 32% Obama 28% Edwards 19%, Franklin Pierce - Dec 27-31
Clinton 31% Obama 27% Edwards 21%, ARG - Dec 27-29
Clinton 34% Obama 30% Edwards 17%, CNN/Univ NH - Dec 27-30

[SouthernFried]

All just masturbation until the elections.

Not that that's a bad thing...

[Nbadan]

Can't win the election if you don't get passed the nomination process..

Poll Date Sample Clinton Obama Edwards Richardson Biden Spread
RCP Average 12/27 - 01/03 - 33.8 27.3 17.8 6.0 2.5 Clinton +6.5
Suffolk/WHDH 01/02 - 01/03 500 LV 37 25 15 4 2 Clinton +12.0
Zogby Tracking 12/31 - 01/03 960 LV 32 26 20 7 2 Clinton +6.0
Franklin Pierce 12/27 - 12/31 403 LV 32 28 19 8 3 Clinton +4.0
CNN/WMUR/UNH 12/27 - 12/30 521 LV 34 30 17 5 3 Clinton +4.0



These are all before Iowa but this should give us a baseline to see what changes happen....obviously Biden voters will allocate themselves to another candidate.

[AFBlue]

Most recent New Hampshire poll results:

Clinton 32% Obama 28% Edwards 19%, Franklin Pierce - Dec 27-31
Clinton 31% Obama 27% Edwards 21%, ARG - Dec 27-29
Clinton 34% Obama 30% Edwards 17%, CNN/Univ NH - Dec 27-30

Any republican love?

What do the polls look like on that side?

[Holt's Cat]

Any republican love?

What do the polls look like on that side?


http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/new_hampshire-primary.html

[remingtonbo2001]

Any republican love?

What do the polls look like on that side?

Oh no! That might actually allow voters to become even more informed of the variety of canidates.

[Nbadan]

..just as soon as a Republican candidate starts coming in better than 4th in the number of votes, we'll start posting their poll numbers....

http://lasvalley.com/images/poll-dem-jan4.gif

Rass (http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/new_hampshire/election_2008_new_hampshire_democratic_primary)

[Nbadan]

Obama drew backing from 32% of New Hampshire Democrats who intend to vote in the primary, compared with Clinton's 30% -- a statistical dead heat. That's a dramatic shift from September, when a similar poll found him trailing 35% to 16% in the state that will hold its presidential primary Jan. 8.

The findings illustrate how the competition among Democrats has intensified in crucial early-voting states despite Clinton's big lead in national polls. In the last nationwide poll by the Los Angeles Times this month, Clinton was favored by 45%; Obama, 21%; and Edwards, 11%.

Obama is posing the principal threat there; the poll found Edwards a distant third, with 18%

LA Times/Bloomberg (http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-na-poll28dec28,0,5452139.story?coll=la-home-center)

[Mavtek]

Today's Rasmussen Poll

McCain 31%
Romney 26%
Ron Paul 14%
Huckabee 11%
Giuliani 8%
Thompson 5%

Link died Media freaking out, someone is surging :)

[JoeChalupa]

Three latest polls show Obama in the lead in NH.

Go Barack Go!!!

[inconvertible]

ron paul 3rd........yes.

[Nbadan]

Sen. Barack Obama has opened up a 13 percentage point lead over Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton in the battle for votes in Tuesday's New Hampshire primary, according to a USA TODAY/Gallup Poll conducted in the state from Friday through this afternoon. The results were just released

Obama 41%
Clinton 28%
Edwards 19%

USA Today Blogs (http://blogs.usatoday.com/onpolitics/2008/01/obama-up-by-13.html)

[AFBlue]

USA Today Blogs (http://blogs.usatoday.com/onpolitics/2008/01/obama-up-by-13.html)

It's amazing that Edwards hasn't picked up ANY steam in the race in New Hampshire after that very active debate. It's clear his attacks did more to hurt Hillary than to help him.

Barack better repay Edwards for doing all the loudmouth dirty work to remove Sen. Clinton as a worthy opponent....with a VP invite?

[xrayzebra]

It's amazing that Edwards hasn't picked up ANY steam in the race in New Hampshire after that very active debate. It's clear his attacks did more to hurt Hillary than to help him.

Barack better repay Edwards for doing all the loudmouth dirty work to remove Sen. Clinton as a worthy opponent....with a VP invite?

I smell another VP run for Huey Long's ghost. Edwards!

[AFBlue]

I smell another VP run for Huey Long's ghost. Edwards!

Both have similar positions and immense respect for one another, and it would seem that their contrasting styles (diplomat and pitbull) could mesh together to form a viable ticket.

The question is whether Edwards would bow out again and accept being the "second choice" for yet another term. If he truly aspires to be the President in the future, another go-round on the Vice Presidential ticket and possibility of 8 years in the background may not get him where he wants to be.

[Nbadan]

I think Edwards has picked up steam nationally, but not so much in New Hampshire...there, as in other places, the M$M has been busy portraying the democratic nomination as a two-man race, Obama versus Hillary...meanwhile, what is Hillary pulling with super delegates?


Word in NH has it that the Clintons are calling in favors from Super Delegates and this fight will go to Colorado to the Convention. If Barack wins Iowa, NH, SC and most of the Super Tuesday states....how on earth can Clinton continue until the Convention on August 25? Ed Schultz talked to Sydney Blumenthal (works for the Clinton Campaign) and Sydney didn't deny the rumor. What do you think? The Clintons know a lot of people. Could they pull this off? Obama has 10 Senate Super Delegates and Hillary has 2...so far. The Clintons are calling all the Senators who haven't endorsed yet, asking them to hold off on endorsing anyone.....

What's going to happen? Any thoughts?

[AFBlue]

I think Edwards has picked up steam nationally, but not so much in New Hampshire...there, as in other places, the M$M has been busy portraying the democratic nomination as a two-man race, Obama versus Hillary...meanwhile, what is Hillary pulling with super delegates?


Word in NH has it that the Clintons are calling in favors from Super Delegates and this fight will go to Colorado to the Convention. If Barack wins Iowa, NH, SC and most of the Super Tuesday states....how on earth can Clinton continue until the Convention on August 25? Ed Schultz talked to Sydney Blumenthal (works for the Clinton Campaign) and Sydney didn't deny the rumor. What do you think? The Clintons know a lot of people. Could they pull this off? Obama has 10 Senate Super Delegates and Hillary has 2...so far. The Clintons are calling all the Senators who haven't endorsed yet, asking them to hold off on endorsing anyone.....

What's going to happen? Any thoughts?

I have to plead ignorance on this one....superdelegates. Can anyone enlighten me? Or I'll just do the wikipedia thing and hope it's right....

[boutons_]

"The superdelegates -- members of Congress, the Democratic National Committee and other prominent elected and party leaders -- are the linchpin of Gore's strategy to win a long, drawn-out contest against Bradley. Gore campaign officials say they are positioned to defeat Bradley by better than 10 to 1 among these Democrats, who are guaranteed spots as delegates, and who are the only delegates free to select the candidate of their choice."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/campaigns/wh2000/stories/dems101899.htm

.... which is more clear than the wikipedia article.

Goddam, the US presidential election process is super-complicated and over-long.

Sounds like superdelegates are a tactic to neutralize/override/disenfranchise the state caucuses and primaries, giving tons of weight to the party establishment, taking it away from people.

[AFBlue]

"The superdelegates -- members of Congress, the Democratic National Committee and other prominent elected and party leaders -- are the linchpin of Gore's strategy to win a long, drawn-out contest against Bradley. Gore campaign officials say they are positioned to defeat Bradley by better than 10 to 1 among these Democrats, who are guaranteed spots as delegates, and who are the only delegates free to select the candidate of their choice."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/campaigns/wh2000/stories/dems101899.htm

.... which is more clear than the wikipedia article.

Goddam, the US presidential election process is super-complicated and over-long.

Sounds like superdelegates are a tactic to neutralize/override/disenfranchise the state caucuses and primaries, giving tons of weight to the party establishment, taking it away from people.

Interesting...

Sounds like the battle for presidential nomination has to be fought on more than one front.

I'd give Hillary the clear edge there, having all kinds of support from the establishment...but perhaps the party would encourage the delegates to vote along with the popular majority.

[xrayzebra]

Both have similar positions and immense respect for one another, and it would seem that their contrasting styles (diplomat and pitbull) could mesh together to form a viable ticket.

The question is whether Edwards would bow out again and accept being the "second choice" for yet another term. If he truly aspires to be the President in the future, another go-round on the Vice Presidential ticket and possibility of 8 years in the background may not get him where he wants to be.


If Edwards wants to be in the running during the
08 election I think he only has the VP position open to
him. He is young and even if Obama went for two
terms and if he was Obama
VP both terms he would be a shoo-in for the Presidential
nomination. The position he really wants.

[Red9]

If Obama repeat his victory in New Hampshire, then that could spell trouble for Hillary.

[Mr. Peabody]

I think Edwards has picked up steam nationally, but not so much in New Hampshire...there, as in other places, the M$M has been busy portraying the democratic nomination as a two-man race, Obama versus Hillary...meanwhile, what is Hillary pulling with super delegates?


Word in NH has it that the Clintons are calling in favors from Super Delegates and this fight will go to Colorado to the Convention. If Barack wins Iowa, NH, SC and most of the Super Tuesday states....how on earth can Clinton continue until the Convention on August 25? Ed Schultz talked to Sydney Blumenthal (works for the Clinton Campaign) and Sydney didn't deny the rumor. What do you think? The Clintons know a lot of people. Could they pull this off? Obama has 10 Senate Super Delegates and Hillary has 2...so far. The Clintons are calling all the Senators who haven't endorsed yet, asking them to hold off on endorsing anyone.....

What's going to happen? Any thoughts?

It's not going to happen. The Clintons would throw the Democratic Party into chaos if they pulled a stunt like that. It might be worth it for them if public opinion was on their side, but in this instance it wouldn't be. An act like that would be giving the middle finger to Democratic voters and I just don't see it happening.

[Yonivore]

I'm about ready to say, "stick a fork in 'er, she's done." New Hampshire may be the end of the Clintonista force...

[JoeChalupa]

Go Barack Go!!

Yeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[SA210]

It's amazing that Edwards hasn't picked up ANY steam in the race in New Hampshire after that very active debate. It's clear his attacks did more to hurt Hillary than to help him.

Barack better repay Edwards for doing all the loudmouth dirty work to remove Sen. Clinton as a worthy opponent....with a VP invite?
It's called a "media blackout" that Edwards has been a victim of for over a year in this race. The corporate media always painted it as a two person race, purposely. He'd be leading if he got the same coverage from day 1.

[Nbadan]

Per Iowa, New Hamphirians(?) are reportedly turning out in record numbers....

New Hampshire Turnout 'Absolutely Huge'
Share January 08, 2008 12:37 PM


ABC News' Karen Travers Reports: New Hampshire Deputy Secretary of State Dave Scanlan told ABC News that turnout among primary voters today is "absolutely huge" -- and there are concerns about running out of ballots in towns like Portsmouth, Keene, Hudson and Pelham.

"Turnout is absolutely huge and towns are starting to get concerned that they may not have enough ballots," Scanlan said. "We are working on those issues. Everything else seems to be going smoothly."

Scanlan said that the Secretary of State's office is sending additional ballots to Portsmouth and Keene (traditionally Democratic strongholds), Hudson (Republican leaning with significant numbers of independents) and Pelham (large number of independents).

According to Scanlan, the ballot strain seems to be on Democratic ballots, which suggests that the undeclared voters are breaking for the Democratic primary. New Hampshire Secretary of State William Gardner predicted that 90,000 undeclared voters would vote in the Democratic primary compared to 60,000 voting in the Republican primary.

Deputy Secretary Scanlan said based on a formula anticipating higher turnout, they printed additional ballots, but in most cases towns will go "right down to the wire with ballots they need." The extra ballots will be insurance ballots in most places so election officials have a comfort level.

Scanlan said reports from polling places show that turnout has been steady and high though the morning but typically high activity periods will be lunch and after work.

[xrayzebra]

It's called a "media blackout" that Edwards has been a victim of for over a year in this race. The corporate media always painted it as a two person race, purposely. He'd be leading if he got the same coverage from day 1.


Please give me a break. He has gotten plenty of press.

He, being the Huey Long of this era. :toast

Every Man a King (http://www.hueylong.com/)

[Nbadan]

Meanwhile, the actual counting has commenced....


Voters have been streaming into polling stations in the key New Hampshire presidential primary, fuelling expectations of a record turnout.
The state secretary, Bill Gardner, has predicted that at least half a million people will cast their ballots.

The first votes counted, and opinion polls, put Barack Obama and John McCain ahead in their respective races.

Candidates are aiming to build momentum before more than 20 states hold polls on 5 February, known as Super Tuesday.

Analysts say New Hampshire's large bloc of independents - about 45% of registered voters - could be key to swinging the primary, the second in a series of state-level votes and caucuses through which the parties choose their candidates for the US presidency.

BBC (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7176163.stm)

I suspect it will be Obama, by large, then Clinton, then Edwards....on the Republican side, McCain, Romney, then Giuliani or Paul....

[Nbadan]

Matthew Borghese - AHN News Writer


Dixville Notch, NH (AHN) - Voters in the town of Dixville Notch, New Hampshire have been the first in the country to cast their primary ballots when the polls opened on midnight, Monday. The village, which holds the longest continuous record of midnight voting, has 17 registered voters this year, who gathered at the Balsams Hotel to cast their ballots.

Among Democrats, Sen. Barack Obama (D-IL) won with 7 votes, followed by former North Carolina Sen. John Edwards with 2 votes and New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson with 1 vote.

Republican voters picked Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) with 4 votes, followed by former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney with 2 votes and former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani with 1 vote.

Link (http://www.allheadlinenews.com/articles/7009644270)

[Nbadan]

Voting is already over in parts of New Hampshire...

http://i.l.cnn.net/cnn/2008/POLITICS/01/08/nh.main/art.dixville.board.ap.jpg


DIXVILLE NOTCH, New Hampshire (CNN) -- Voters in two New Hampshire hamlets cast their ballots Tuesday just after midnight in the state's first-in-the-nation presidential primary, hours before the rest of the state's polling places open.

The first ballots were cast in Dixville Notch, a hamlet of about 75 near the Canadian border.

People there favored Sen. John McCain in the Republican primary -- he got four votes -- and Sen. Barack Obama in the Democratic contest, who won seven votes.

Obama and McCain also won in midnight voting in Hart's Location, population 42. The two senators hope to see those results duplicated statewide by the time all the votes are cast.

CNN (http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/01/08/nh.main/index.html)

[Nbadan]

it's time to pull out the Zerox...

Some Polling Places Running Out Of Ballots In N.H.


BOSTON (CBS) ― Record voter turn out for the New Hampshire primary is having an unexpected and bad consequence: some polling places are running out of ballots.

New Hampshire Secretary of State William M. Gardner told CBS station WBZ-TV in Boston some polling places are running low on ballots, however he could not say which sites exactly.

The Secretary of State's office was working on figuring out what locations were running low and got to work creating more ballots.

According to a spokesperson for the Secretary of State's office, extra ballots are being driven to polling places. If locations run low on ballots before supplies are replenished, town and city clerks are allowed to make a copy of the ballots for voters to use.

Some polling places across the state don't close until 8 p.m. local time Tuesday.

The combination of an exciting presidential race and unseasonably mild weather had officials expecting a record voter turn out of half a million people for the primary.

KdKa (http://kdka.com/national/NH.primary.New.2.625484.html)

[Thunder Dan]

I work with a bunch of racist old men and they are freaking out at the thought of Obama winning the Presidential seat. It's one of the most pathetic things I have ever seen, they don't like a candidate, they actually agree with just about everything Obama agrees with, yet they won't vote for him because he is black. I hope he wins so these guys can shove a big one up their asses

[CubanMustGo]

I know a lot of young pricks with the same attitude.

[Extra Stout]

I work with a bunch of racist old men and they are freaking out at the thought of Obama winning the Presidential seat. It's one of the most pathetic things I have ever seen, they don't like a candidate, they actually agree with just about everything Obama agrees with, yet they won't vote for him because he is black. I hope he wins so these guys can shove a big one up their asses
Well, Hitlery just brought back Carville and Begala to help stop the bleeding. They're making it clear they are going to go all-slime all the time on Obama, and I can only assume that race-baiting will be part of the package.

So she may use guys like that to help her stave off defeat.

Of course, if she does that, if she reprises Nixon's 1968 strategy to claim the nomination, to tear down an obviously electable African-American candidate for the Presidency, the Democratic Party can kiss the black vote goodbye. She could end up handing the election to a Republican in a year when the Republicans have no business winning.

Would the Clintons do something like that simply to maintain their place of power?

Is it even necessary to ask that question?

Gee... wouldn't it be convenient if they "punt" the Presidency to another Arkansas governor... has anybody checked to see what the Huckabee/Clinton ties might be?

[JoeChalupa]

I look for things to get real nasty towards Obama and I don't blame them. They must stop the bleeding now and the early results are showing Hillary doing better than expected.

[boutons_]

At 7:35 CT on CNN:

Hillary 40%
Obama 36%

only 17% of precincts in.

[mikejones99]

NH has many nuts there

[some_user86]

McCain the projected winner in NH.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/01/08/nh.main/index.html

[mikejones99]

Mccain will probly die soon, as he is very old. dont waste you votes

[JoeChalupa]

McCain can still kick some ass. I'm glad he won.

Come on Barack!!!!!

[clambake]

I work with a bunch of racist old men and they are freaking out at the thought of Obama winning the Presidential seat. It's one of the most pathetic things I have ever seen, they don't like a candidate, they actually agree with just about everything Obama agrees with, yet they won't vote for him because he is black. I hope he wins so these guys can shove a big one up their asses
so, what's it like working with Yoni?

[Yonivore]

so, what's it like working with Yoni?
No; can't be...if they agree with Obama. Sounds like he works with a bunch of racist Democrats or liberals.

[Tippecanoe]

It's official. Hillary Clinton won the NH primaries. wheres that stupid link...

[Tippecanoe]

here it is

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/primary_rdp;_ylt=Atpdx9Itkph0r_fFFpwVruJh24cA

CONCORD, N.H. - Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton won New Hampshire's Democratic primary Tuesday night in a startling upset, defeating Sen. Barack Obama and resurrecting her bid for the White House. Sen. John McCain powered past his Republican rivals and back into contention for the GOP nomination.
ADVERTISEMENT

Clinton's victory capped a comeback from last week's third-place finish in the Iowa caucuses and raised the possibility of a long battle for the party nomination between the most viable black candidate in history and the former first lady, who is seeking to become the first woman to occupy the Oval Office.

[Mr. Peabody]

It's official. Hillary Clinton won the NH primaries. wheres that stupid link...

Well, at least it will stay interesting through Super Tueday.

[mikejones99]

Boston needs tom

[JoeChalupa]

Hillary's win tonight was a major blow to Barack. I hate it when that happens.

[Spawn]

Bradley effect

[Wild Cobra]

No; can't be...if they agree with Obama. Sounds like he works with a bunch of racist Democrats or liberals.
LOL... How true... That one snuck by me even though I know it's the libs who own racism.

This is just another example. They must be democrats if they agree with Obama's views...

Definitely not the party of Lincoln.

[Wild Cobra]

It's official. Hillary Clinton won the NH primaries. wheres that stupid link...
I think they felt sorry for her, and didn't want to be the cause of her coming mental breakdown.

[Nbadan]

...Something to think about ...the Zogby daily tracking poll had Obama at 42% and Clinton at 29% today. Most other polls agreed. Nothing in the news can reasonably explain this drastic last minute swing in Clinton's favor except possibly some kind of software manipulation of Diebold voting machines. This a swing of nearly 9 points. All other numbers are matching up exactly with candidates pre-primary Zogby tracking numbers (http://www.zogby.com/news/ReadNews.dbm?ID=1417)...

[Spawn]

LOL... How true... That one snuck by me even though I know it's the libs who own racism.

This is just another example. They must be democrats if they agree with Obama's views...

Definitely not the party of Lincoln.

Isn't the party of Lincoln the party of tyranny according to you? What he did to those poor southerners was downright criminal.

[Wild Cobra]

...Something to think about ...the Zogby daily tracking poll had Obama at 42% and Clinton at 29% today. Most other polls agreed. Nothing in the news can reasonably explain this drastic last minute swing in Clinton's favor except possibly some kind of software manipulation of Diebold voting machines. This a swing of nearly 9 points. All other numbers are matching up exactly with candidates pre-primary Zogby tracking numbers (http://www.zogby.com/news/ReadNews.dbm?ID=1417)...
I heard exit polling favored Obama too...

You might be on to something. Afterall, it was democrat operatives who proved the machines could be tampered with.

[Wild Cobra]

Isn't the party of Lincoln the party of tyranny according to you? What he did to those poor southerners was downright criminal.
I never implied such a thing. I have in the past agreed with the south for succeeding from the union. However, they also started the civil war when they could have cleanly succeeded!

Have quotes of mine implying otherwise? I'd like to see them...

[Ignignokt]

...Something to think about ...the Zogby daily tracking poll had Obama at 42% and Clinton at 29% today. Most other polls agreed. Nothing in the news can reasonably explain this drastic last minute swing in Clinton's favor except possibly some kind of software manipulation of Diebold voting machines. This a swing of nearly 9 points. All other numbers are matching up exactly with candidates pre-primary Zogby tracking numbers (http://www.zogby.com/news/ReadNews.dbm?ID=1417)...



I tell you what happened. Edwards lost some women support to hillary, while hilldabeast gained some swing women voters by having a meltdown and crying.

These same women who swung for hillary probably all own a readers digest, drive Nissan Muranos, eat Viactiv, and watch Lifetime and the View.

This is why women shouldnt be allowed to vote.

[johngateswhiteley]

I tell you what happened. Edwards lost some women support to hillary, while hilldabeast gained some swing women voters by having a meltdown and crying.

These same women who swung for hillary probably all own a readers digest, drive Nissan Muranos, eat Viactiv, and watch Lifetime and the View.

This is why women shouldnt be allowed to vote.

:lol

[Nbadan]

Bradley effect

..and they all voted for Hillary instead? Unlikely....

[Ignignokt]

..and they all voted for Hillary instead? Unlikely....


It's New Hampshire.

and the women there probably are all sexually dormant because they don't tan, are over 50, and hate men in general.


Believe it, Jessica Simpson could have beaten Obama if she had a brown makeup pencil to add wrinkles and a wig.

[Nbadan]

Wouldn't have been difficult to rig the vote at all tonight....


Those Diebold op-scan machines are the exact same ones that were hacked in the HBO documentary, Hacking Democracy. See the previous report, as I recommend, which also includes a video of that hack, and footage of the guy who runs LHS Associates.

That said, the the pre-election pollster's numbers (NOTE: that's not Exit Polls, but Pre-Election Polls!) were dead-on, for the most part, on the Republican side, as well as on the Democratic side. Except in the do-or-die (for Hillary) Clinton v. Obama race. I'm watching MSNBC right now, and they all seem to agree that the results, for the moment, defy explanation.

As you'll note, the numbers in Zogby's latest polls, for all but Clinton and Obama, seem to have been dead-on the money for both the Republicans and Democrats. Edwards, for example, was polled at 17% in Zogby's poll, and he received exactly 17% in the MSNB numbers, with 63% of precincts reporting. So are we to believe that only those voters who preferred Obama previously, decided to change to Hillary at the last minute? I suppose so.

Brad blog (http://www.bradblog.com/?p=5530)

[Nbadan]

Black box Voting discovered that 81% of New Hampshire voters will be casting their ballots on optical scan paper ballot machines with a known hackable version of the outdated firmware (1.94w). BBV purchased their own machine, and performed a demonstration of a hacked vote.


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[Nbadan]

NH breakdown....


MANCHESTER, New Hampshire (CNN) -- Women pushed Hillary Clinton to victory in New Hampshire's Democratic primary while independent voters pushed Arizona Sen. John McCain to the top spot among Republicans, exit polls show. Women, who accounted for 57 percent of those who voted in the Democratic primary, went for Clinton 47 percent to 34 percent for the second-place finisher, Illinois Sen. Barack Obama; men conversely tilted to Obama, 42 percent to 30 percent.

Clinton also held ground among registered Democrats, topping Obama 45 percent to 33 percent, while Obama grabbed more independents voting in the Democratic primary, 41 percent to 34 percent.

While Clinton edged Obama by 3 percentage points among the 17 percent of voters who decided their votes on the last day, she was helped more by those who stuck with her over the course of the campaign. Thirty-four percent of voters said they hadn't changed their minds in the past month; Clinton topped Obama 48 percent to 31 percent among that group.

Meanwhile, exit polls showed 37 percent of those who cast a Republican ballot Tuesday identified themselves as independents, and McCain got the votes of 39 percent of them, compared with 27 percent for former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney, who finished second Tuesday. Romney and McCain were almost even among those who identified themselves as Republicans, with 33 and 34 percent, respectively. I-Reporter Bob Sinkiewicz, an independent, said he was tempted to cast a Democratic ballot for Obama, but was swayed by McCain's experience and consistent message....

CNN (http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/01/08/nh.issues/index.html)

[Nbadan]

Here are the CNN Exit polls numbers

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/primaries/results/epolls/index.html#NHDEM

[Nbadan]

The current delegate number. including committed superdelegates..

Magic Number 2,025

Clinton
183

Obama
78

Edwards
52

Richardson
19

Kucinich
1

Biden
0

Dodd
0

Gravel
0

Source: CNN (http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/primaries/results/scorecard/#D)

[timvp]

I've never met anyone who is openly backing Ms. Rodham. Do these people actually exist?

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

I think I met one tonight.

Actually, I've known her, just not her choice until tonight.

[Thunder Dan]

No; can't be...if they agree with Obama. Sounds like he works with a bunch of racist Democrats or liberals.

no they just want someone that is new to politics (in comparison to other candidates) and is thus not as corrupted as the others...but since he is black they won't vote for him.

[Extra Stout]

So the exit polls match the results for Clinton/Obama, while the early polls were way off?

The only plausible explanation is that Diebold has figured out a way to hack voters' brains. This is all the more reason to wear a tinfoil hat.

[George Gervin's Afro]

I've never met anyone who is openly backing Ms. Rodham. Do these people actually exist?


After experiencing all of the needless hatred of the woman I am planning on voting for her. All crticisms I have seen about her are personal and based on emotional hatred. I am trying to think of anyone more hated than her when she hasn't done anything according to all of her detractors. On one hand I hear that she has no experience or qualifications to be President... Then the same people criticize her personally..To me those who hate her don't really have a reason to... they just do. She is a tough person and her resolve over the past few days has won me over.. Now if Obama wins he has my support..

[Yonivore]

no they just want someone that is new to politics (in comparison to other candidates) and is thus not as corrupted as the others...but since he is black they won't vote for him.

Here's your original post to which I replied:


I work with a bunch of racist old men and they are freaking out at the thought of Obama winning the Presidential seat. It's one of the most pathetic things I have ever seen, they don't like a candidate, they actually agree with just about everything Obama agrees with, yet they won't vote for him because he is black. I hope he wins so these guys can shove a big one up their asses

So, which is it? They agree with "just about everything Obama agrees with, yet they won't vote for him because he is black," making them racist Democrats (because only a Democrat would agree with just about everything Obama agrees with; or, is it what you just posted, they just want someone new?

Because if they just want someone new, with whom they agree and who isn't black, Hillary is their girl...or, are they sexist Democrats too?

Just asking.

[clambake]

yoni, are you interested in their prejudice so you can compare it to yours? you being sympathic to the race card is embarrassing. we already know how you really feel, remember?

[Yonivore]

yoni, are you interested in their prejudice so you can compare it to yours? you being sympathic to the race card is embarrassing. we already know how you really feel, remember?
You know nothing about my feelings. And, don't be embarrassed, you can't help your ignorance...apparently.

[Ignignokt]

So the exit polls match the results for Clinton/Obama, while the early polls were way off?

The only plausible explanation is that Diebold has figured out a way to hack voters' brains. This is all the more reason to wear a tinfoil hat.



:lmao :lmao :lmao

[Ignignokt]

After experiencing all of the needless hatred of the woman I am planning on voting for her. All crticisms I have seen about her are personal and based on emotional hatred. I am trying to think of anyone more hated than her when she hasn't done anything according to all of her detractors. On one hand I hear that she has no experience or qualifications to be President... Then the same people criticize her personally..To me those who hate her don't really have a reason to... they just do. She is a tough person and her resolve over the past few days has won me over.. Now if Obama wins he has my support..


There's no difference between a vote of sympathy and hate. they're both baseless and disregard the issues.

[Ignignokt]

It seems the majority of Democrats age 26 and over are inclined to dump Martin Luther King's Legacy, the realization of the First black president, just to save the Clintons Blowjob Legacy.

[clambake]

You know nothing about my feelings.
we all know yoni.

you're the only guy i know that thinks God sent Bush as a savoir and simultaniously hate blacks. that's some combination. we wouldn't have known without your input. you didn't steal that on a blog.

[Ignignokt]

we all know yoni.

you're the only guy i know that thinks God sent Bush as a savoir and simultaniously hate blacks. that's some combination. we wouldn't have known without your input. you didn't steal that on a blog.


And we all know Bearded Clambake hates jews, and america, and wants to fag us all out.

[clambake]

And we all know Bearded Clambake hates jews, and america, and wants to fag us all out.
hey pinky!!!!! :lol

[Ignignokt]

hey pinky!!!!! :lol


probably your most intellectual take to date.

[clambake]

probably your most intellectual take to date.
i have another one.

you...standing behind your man.......and you call me the fag? :lol

[Ignignokt]

i have another one.

you...standing behind your man.......and you call me the fag? :lol


I think the fag part in this thread comes from your obssesion with yoni.

[clambake]

I think the fag part in this thread comes from your obssesion with yoni.
no...it's you. I miss your pink. can't you overcome that insecurity?

[Ignignokt]

i'm rubber you're glue whatever you say goes back to you.



aint that cute.

[DarkReign]

Thread hijack.

[Thunder Dan]

Here's your original post to which I replied:



So, which is it? They agree with "just about everything Obama agrees with, yet they won't vote for him because he is black," making them racist Democrats (because only a Democrat would agree with just about everything Obama agrees with; or, is it what you just posted, they just want someone new?

Because if they just want someone new, with whom they agree and who isn't black, Hillary is their girl...or, are they sexist Democrats too?

Just asking.

yeah they don't want a girl either. They want a white, christian male

[Mr. Peabody]

So the exit polls match the results for Clinton/Obama, while the early polls were way off?

The only plausible explanation is that Diebold has figured out a way to hack voters' brains. This is all the more reason to wear a tinfoil hat.

Not only that, John Zogby himself said that on the day of the primary, his poll had Obama only two points ahead and falling. His official poll numbers don't reflect that because his is a three-day rolling poll. But again, his poll numbers on that day had it a close race.

[Yonivore]

yeah they don't want a girl either. They want a white, christian male
And Democrats at that...wow! Who'd'a thunk it?

[Extra Stout]

yeah they don't want a girl either. They want a white, christian male
Let me guess... they are union members and they looooooooooove the Breck Girl.