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    Post the most recent you see....

    Obama may be making Iowa a win-or-go-home contest since New Hampshire seems a Clinton lock and NH doesn't like Mike Huckabee as much as Iowa either....

    Clinton, Romney still ahead in three NH polls
    By JOHN DISTASO
    Senior Political Reporter


    Three New Hampshire polls being released today show Hillary Clinton and Mitt Romney holding onto their leads.

    A new poll of 1,343 likely primary voters taken Nov. 28 to Dec. 2 by the Marist College Ins ute for Public Opinion shows Democrat Clinton leading Barack Obama, 37 to 23 percent, with John Edwards at 18 percent and no other candidate in double digits.

    The poll also shows Republican Romney, with 29 percent, leading John McCain and Rudy Giuliani, now tied with 17 percent each. Mike Huckabee, for the first time in a Marist poll, breaks into double digits with 11 percent.

    The results were provided to UnionLeader.com this afternoon by another organization.

    In a November Marist poll, Clinton led Obama 36 to 25 percent and Romney led Giuliani 33 to 22 percent, with McCain at 13 percent. The poll’s margins of error are 4 percent for the Democrats and 4.5 percent for the Republicans.

    An ABC News/Washington Post poll will show Romney leading a second-place McCain, 37 to 20 percent with 16 percent for Giuliani and 9 percent for Huckabee.

    A new Zogby poll shows Clinton’s lead over Obama shrinking to 32 to 21 percent from 38 to 23 percent in late September. Support for Edwards increased from 12 to 16 percent.


    Details of the ABC/Post and Zogby polls, such as the sizes of the surveys and the margins of error, were not immediately available.

    For more political news, see the Granite Status political column in the New Hampshire Union Leader and on UnionLeader.com tomorrow.

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    WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Barack Obama has chipped away at Hillary Clinton's lead in New Hampshire locking the Democrats in a statistical tie a month before the first presidential primary, according to a CNN/WMUR Poll released Wednesday.

    Clinton has dropped 5 percentage points since a previous CNN/WMUR survey in November, while Obama has gained 8 percentage points, according to the poll conducted by the University of New Hampshire Survey Center. Clinton is now at 31 percent to Obama's 30 percent. New Hampshire's primary is set for January 8.

    Clinton's 5-percentage point drop appears to have been largely due to the loss of support among women.

    "Clinton's support among Democratic women in New Hampshire has dropped from 43 percent to 33 percent," Holland said. "By contrast, her support among men dropped only 1 point to 27 percent in that same time period."
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    The latest Rasmussen Poll:

    Survey of 841 Likely Dem Primary Voters
    December 11, 2007

    New Hampshire Dem Primary

    Barack Obama 31%

    Hillary Clinton 28%

    John Edwards 17%

    Bill Richardson 8%

    Joe Biden 4%

    Dennis Kucinich 3%

    Mike Gravel 1%

    Chris Dodd 0%

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    Par for course, Clinton's lead has evaporated in New Hampshire....

    Barack Obama has come from behind to turn the Democratic presidential race in New Hampshire into a toss-up, according to a new Monitor opinion poll. The results - which show Obama with a one-point edge over Hillary Clinton - mirror other polls released this week, indicating that Clinton's once-imposing lead has evaporated in the run-up to New Hampshire's Jan. 8 primary.

    The poll suggests that the Democratic race could hinge on the turnout of undeclared voters, who aren't registered with either political party. Much of Obama's backing comes from undeclared voters, while registered Democrats make up the bulk of Clinton's support. In New Hampshire, undeclared voters can vote in either party primary, giving them sway in both contests.

    "The more undeclared voters that decide to vote in the Democratic primary, the better chance Obama wins," said Del Ali, president of Research 2000, the Maryland-based nonpartisan polling firm that conducted the poll for the Monitor on Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday. "What Hillary Clinton has to hope is that more of the established Democrats come out to vote."

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    Of the likely Democratic primary voters surveyed for the Monitor poll, 37 percent aren't registered with a political party. When it came to those undeclared voters, Obama trounced his opponents: 40 percent of undeclared voters likely to vote in the Democratic primary backed Obama, compared with 23 percent for Clinton and 13 percent for former North Carolina senator John Edwards.

    Clinton, in contrast, won the support of more registered Democrats: 36 percent said they'd vote for Clinton, compared with 27 percent for Obama and 21 percent for Edwards.

    ...

    Apart from undeclared voters, Obama now draws considerable support from women. Of the female, likely Democratic voters surveyed, 34 percent say they'd choose Obama, compared with 32 percent for Clinton. Female voters have widely been considered a key demographic for Clinton, the former first lady and U.S. senator from New York.

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    Obama, Clinton and Edwards were the only Democratic candidates to win double-digit support in the poll - 32 percent of likely Democratic primary voters surveyed backed Obama, 31 percent chose Clinton, and 18 percent went with Edwards. Richardson followed with 8 percent support. Dennis Kucinich, Joe Biden and Chris Dodd all placed in the low single digits.

    The results of the Monitor poll were similar to those of a University of New Hampshire poll released earlier this week. That survey showed Clinton leading Obama by just one percentage point, well within the margin of error.

    In the Monitor's July poll, 33 percent of likely Democratic voters surveyed chose Clinton, while 25 percent picked Obama. Edwards won 15 percent of the vote in that poll, while Richardson took 7 percent.
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    Most recent New Hampshire poll results:

    Clinton 32% Obama 28% Edwards 19%, Franklin Pierce - Dec 27-31
    Clinton 31% Obama 27% Edwards 21%, ARG - Dec 27-29
    Clinton 34% Obama 30% Edwards 17%, CNN/Univ NH - Dec 27-30

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    All just masturbation until the elections.

    Not that that's a bad thing...

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    Can't win the election if you don't get passed the nomination process..

    Poll Date Sample Clinton Obama Edwards Richardson Biden Spread
    RCP Average 12/27 - 01/03 - 33.8 27.3 17.8 6.0 2.5 Clinton +6.5
    Suffolk/WHDH 01/02 - 01/03 500 LV 37 25 15 4 2 Clinton +12.0
    Zogby Tracking 12/31 - 01/03 960 LV 32 26 20 7 2 Clinton +6.0
    Franklin Pierce 12/27 - 12/31 403 LV 32 28 19 8 3 Clinton +4.0
    CNN/WMUR/UNH 12/27 - 12/30 521 LV 34 30 17 5 3 Clinton +4.0



    These are all before Iowa but this should give us a baseline to see what changes happen....obviously Biden voters will allocate themselves to another candidate.

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    Most recent New Hampshire poll results:

    Clinton 32% Obama 28% Edwards 19%, Franklin Pierce - Dec 27-31
    Clinton 31% Obama 27% Edwards 21%, ARG - Dec 27-29
    Clinton 34% Obama 30% Edwards 17%, CNN/Univ NH - Dec 27-30
    Any republican love?

    What do the polls look like on that side?

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    Any republican love?

    What do the polls look like on that side?

    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epo...e-primary.html

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    Any republican love?

    What do the polls look like on that side?
    Oh no! That might actually allow voters to become even more informed of the variety of canidates.

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    ..just as soon as a Republican candidate starts coming in better than 4th in the number of votes, we'll start posting their poll numbers....



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    Obama drew backing from 32% of New Hampshire Democrats who intend to vote in the primary, compared with Clinton's 30% -- a statistical dead heat. That's a dramatic shift from September, when a similar poll found him trailing 35% to 16% in the state that will hold its presidential primary Jan. 8.

    The findings illustrate how the compe ion among Democrats has intensified in crucial early-voting states despite Clinton's big lead in national polls. In the last nationwide poll by the Los Angeles Times this month, Clinton was favored by 45%; Obama, 21%; and Edwards, 11%.

    Obama is posing the principal threat there; the poll found Edwards a distant third, with 18%
    LA Times/Bloomberg

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    Today's Rasmussen Poll

    McCain 31%
    Romney 26%
    Ron Paul 14%
    Huckabee 11%
    Giuliani 8%
    Thompson 5%

    Link died Media freaking out, someone is surging

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    Three latest polls show Obama in the lead in NH.

    Go Barack Go!!!

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    ron paul 3rd........yes.

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    Sen. Barack Obama has opened up a 13 percentage point lead over Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton in the battle for votes in Tuesday's New Hampshire primary, according to a USA TODAY/Gallup Poll conducted in the state from Friday through this afternoon. The results were just released

    Obama 41%
    Clinton 28%
    Edwards 19%
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    It's amazing that Edwards hasn't picked up ANY steam in the race in New Hampshire after that very active debate. It's clear his attacks did more to hurt Hillary than to help him.

    Barack better repay Edwards for doing all the loudmouth dirty work to remove Sen. Clinton as a worthy opponent....with a VP invite?

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    It's amazing that Edwards hasn't picked up ANY steam in the race in New Hampshire after that very active debate. It's clear his attacks did more to hurt Hillary than to help him.

    Barack better repay Edwards for doing all the loudmouth dirty work to remove Sen. Clinton as a worthy opponent....with a VP invite?
    I smell another VP run for Huey Long's ghost. Edwards!

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    I smell another VP run for Huey Long's ghost. Edwards!
    Both have similar positions and immense respect for one another, and it would seem that their contrasting styles (diplomat and pitbull) could mesh together to form a viable ticket.

    The question is whether Edwards would bow out again and accept being the "second choice" for yet another term. If he truly aspires to be the President in the future, another go-round on the Vice Presidential ticket and possibility of 8 years in the background may not get him where he wants to be.

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    I think Edwards has picked up steam nationally, but not so much in New Hampshire...there, as in other places, the M$M has been busy portraying the democratic nomination as a two-man race, Obama versus Hillary...meanwhile, what is Hillary pulling with super delegates?


    Word in NH has it that the Clintons are calling in favors from Super Delegates and this fight will go to Colorado to the Convention. If Barack wins Iowa, NH, SC and most of the Super Tuesday states....how on earth can Clinton continue until the Convention on August 25? Ed Schultz talked to Sydney Blumenthal (works for the Clinton Campaign) and Sydney didn't deny the rumor. What do you think? The Clintons know a lot of people. Could they pull this off? Obama has 10 Senate Super Delegates and Hillary has 2...so far. The Clintons are calling all the Senators who haven't endorsed yet, asking them to hold off on endorsing anyone.....

    What's going to happen? Any thoughts?

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    I think Edwards has picked up steam nationally, but not so much in New Hampshire...there, as in other places, the M$M has been busy portraying the democratic nomination as a two-man race, Obama versus Hillary...meanwhile, what is Hillary pulling with super delegates?


    Word in NH has it that the Clintons are calling in favors from Super Delegates and this fight will go to Colorado to the Convention. If Barack wins Iowa, NH, SC and most of the Super Tuesday states....how on earth can Clinton continue until the Convention on August 25? Ed Schultz talked to Sydney Blumenthal (works for the Clinton Campaign) and Sydney didn't deny the rumor. What do you think? The Clintons know a lot of people. Could they pull this off? Obama has 10 Senate Super Delegates and Hillary has 2...so far. The Clintons are calling all the Senators who haven't endorsed yet, asking them to hold off on endorsing anyone.....

    What's going to happen? Any thoughts?
    I have to plead ignorance on this one....superdelegates. Can anyone enlighten me? Or I'll just do the wikipedia thing and hope it's right....

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    "The superdelegates -- members of Congress, the Democratic National Committee and other prominent elected and party leaders -- are the linchpin of Gore's strategy to win a long, drawn-out contest against Bradley. Gore campaign officials say they are positioned to defeat Bradley by better than 10 to 1 among these Democrats, who are guaranteed spots as delegates, and who are the only delegates free to select the candidate of their choice."

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv...dems101899.htm

    .... which is more clear than the wikipedia article.

    Goddam, the US presidential election process is super-complicated and over-long.

    Sounds like superdelegates are a tactic to neutralize/override/disenfranchise the state caucuses and primaries, giving tons of weight to the party establishment, taking it away from people.

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    "The superdelegates -- members of Congress, the Democratic National Committee and other prominent elected and party leaders -- are the linchpin of Gore's strategy to win a long, drawn-out contest against Bradley. Gore campaign officials say they are positioned to defeat Bradley by better than 10 to 1 among these Democrats, who are guaranteed spots as delegates, and who are the only delegates free to select the candidate of their choice."

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv...dems101899.htm

    .... which is more clear than the wikipedia article.

    Goddam, the US presidential election process is super-complicated and over-long.

    Sounds like superdelegates are a tactic to neutralize/override/disenfranchise the state caucuses and primaries, giving tons of weight to the party establishment, taking it away from people.
    Interesting...

    Sounds like the battle for presidential nomination has to be fought on more than one front.

    I'd give Hillary the clear edge there, having all kinds of support from the establishment...but perhaps the party would encourage the delegates to vote along with the popular majority.

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    Both have similar positions and immense respect for one another, and it would seem that their contrasting styles (diplomat and pitbull) could mesh together to form a viable ticket.

    The question is whether Edwards would bow out again and accept being the "second choice" for yet another term. If he truly aspires to be the President in the future, another go-round on the Vice Presidential ticket and possibility of 8 years in the background may not get him where he wants to be.

    If Edwards wants to be in the running during the
    08 election I think he only has the VP position open to
    him. He is young and even if Obama went for two
    terms and if he was Obama
    VP both terms he would be a shoo-in for the Presidential
    nomination. The position he really wants.

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