Vassilis Spanoulis Thread

[td4mvp21]

Spanoulis fucking sucks.

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

This is a much better highlight video you put together. Not so many misses on shots. Good D and excellent passing. But that's what highlight vids are for.

Now, can you address the salary requirement issue I brought up previously? I don't think the Spurs will be willing to pay him the 4.5 million you say he wants--and you believe he is worth. A backup PG without strong NBA experience is simply not going to get that kind of salary from the Spurs.

If he wants back in the NBA, then he'll be in touch. Then the Spurs will have to make an evaluation and let him know if they want him at that price. Sometimes a player's ideas of his worth and a team's evaluation of him on their team and system are deal breakers.


He want know before sign with Spurs team if he have REAL fan like in Panathinaikos or just stupid popcorn NBA fan of Spurs to. He think maybe Spur fan different because they have good foreign player and have champions team. But so far he see same type of fan as Rocket have fan that have no knowledges of the good and proper basketball from how the peoples talk here. he wonder how fan can see player such as Manu and T-Mac play and still have the zero knowledges of how basketball is. He NOT make same mistake before. he have spend many times now investigates Popovich and Buford and wants also learn of fans to. This only so he sure they REAL team not joke like Rocket were only then can he take less money than his worth in Europe. Because with Rocket he take the less money then first time arrives Van Gundy tells him "bench all year like all other crap rookie."

You be mad too if take 1/3 money for such coach after same coach promise on phone you be 20-25 minute each game and this only reason you agree then to takes less money. Then fan take coach side and make fun of Billy when coach MAKES UP LIES he say "I T-Mac of Greece" when he never say such thing then coach go on radio and make fun of his accent and make fun of Greece and they have no toilet and no water in homes and play game in barns and such and pay player in goats and cheese so Billy should "shut up and be happy and stop bitch about play time because he now have bathroom in home". Billy upset by it and coach say "dog house all year" Houston fan pick on him not coach for such antic always Van Gundy must be saint or something. Billy think people in Houston very poor classes to be tell such thing by coach on radio and think it "cool" and make fun of Greece and Greek people like such. He wonder how so many people can be so stupid and pathetic all over like in Houston there.

Billy now must first learn about Spurs before make such mistake again to be stuck with loser type team and coach like he gets before. And make sure there not be same stupid and worthless type fan because he rather then give the basketball to real fans of Panathinaikos. You Amerikan say such thing make him "pussy" and "cry baby" you liars. I like see how Amerikan feel if such happen to them get job in Hellas.

[Indazone]

I don't care if it's Kobe or Arenas, repeated posts about one player are going to get flamed. So you can't make a judgement call about Spurs fans. What you can say is that if Vassilis came to San Antonio, the reception would be different than what you see on this board. First the city and fans would welcome him. Judgement about play is reserved for later.

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

which nba teams were those again?

again, please go now. we are done here.

These NBA teams yes??

http://youtube.com/watch?v=2JxYa3QqBYo

against them more good reason to believe van Gundy lies yes? Not like he show any ability for NBA this game either? Guess fan here all right he never do ANYTHING NBA he just same as college rookie :rolleyes

Guess this another magic fantasy clip?

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

I don't care if it's Kobe or Arenas, repeated posts about one player are going to get flamed. So you can't make a judgement call about Spurs fans. What you can say is that if Vassilis came to San Antonio, the reception would be different than what you see on this board. First the city and fans would welcome him. Judgement about play is reserved for later.

But he afraid now that after what happen from van Gundy that fan believe ANYTHING even if all LIES be said by coach. he be told by Parker who he play since they 17 that Popovich not like this and is great friend to players with passion of game and heart just like Billy but he still keep thinking that ALL Houston fan almost believe all thing Van Gundy say even though he treats player like craps and even though Yao ask owner to fire him STILL he see almost ALL Houston fan believe he not play because "he must not have try at practice" he tell me he laugh so hard at such craziness if it not still make him so angry.

He just not take anything any Amerikan team tell him now without try find out for sure. This why he could not trust Adelman. Adelman have tell him bring his mom and brother over and he will work with him and family problems and Peja who his friend from Greek league also tell him Adelman great man and player coach and he treat foreign player with respect not like Van Gundy who Peja tell him known by all foreign player as some coach that hate Euro player. But evemn though he get such assurance he decide NOT to trust Adelman just because he so mad at Van Gundy be allowed get away with his actions. He still not get why Lindsey and Dawson let Van Gundy run team and same with Rocket owner. When he see Rocket owner tell press he fire him for not playing Spanoulis and not playing normal offense he just not understand. He just say "why he only say this NOW? Why he only say to me and why Dawson and Linsdey keep tells me we want van Gundy fire and you be point guard but keep letting Van Gundy do same thing?

He still not get why they refuse tell fans and reporters stop saying crap lies about him from things coach said which all be lies. He decide he cannot trust Adelman so he stay in Greece and help his family there. Then he get trade Spurs and he decide cannot trust them either before he study them. Otherwise he could have stay there and bring mom over and Spurs willing to make time for him for leave for games until she improve. But final he say "how I trust any Amerikan after be lied to every time they open mouth?"


I guess way Rocket and Spur fan talk they also believe Kobe "crazy pussy" because he mad Laker owner and GM lie to him?

[jay014]

He might be great in your eyes dumbass, besides he didn't want to play in the NBA that's why the Spurs traded for him and to grant Scola his dream to play in the NBA and to save money(4 million).otherwise Scola would be playing overseas in euroleague.Why haven't you left?

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

He might be great in your eyes dumbass, besides he didn't want to play in the NBA that's why the Spurs traded for him and to grant Scola his dream to play in the NBA and to save money(4 million).otherwise Scola would be playing overseas in euroleague.Why haven't you left?



also you wrong:

again you call Popovich liar then

Since Spur fan believe I lie and Spur not want Spanoulis explain to me how they think coach tell lie then?

http://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/...en.39e9f7b.html

Missing Vassilis: Popovich says he wishes Vassilis Spanoulis, now a guard for Panathinaikos, would have stayed in the States.

Spanoulis, traded to the Spurs in the offseason as part of the Luis Scola deal, was waived in early July after he made it clear he had no intention of remaining in the NBA.

"He had a great chance to be a backup on our team," Popovich said. "I was disappointed when he said he didn't want to play in the NBA anymore. I didn't even get to talk to him about it. Not one word."


This before Spanoulis demand trade and after this remember Parker be ask by Popovich to talk to him throughs Parker and asks him stay remember I prove this before with posts here and link to story. So Spur fan then if what say true they believe Spur not want Spanoulis they call Popovich liar. Guess no fan here like deal with facts.


This kind of fan he used to in Hellas with Panathinaikos


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He come from place where basketball fan are true and real fan. Why Amerikan not understand why he disapoint with what he see in Houston? He play for coach Giannakis in Marousi and national team and coach Obradovic in Panathinaikos everyone know these top 5 coaches in world. These coaches that Popovich ask for knowledge from and try to learn from. These coach believe he best player they ever see. Then he get coach Van Gundy who turn out be nut moron coach and have somehow got image that he "good coach"

You play for such fans and coach like Obradovic then see how you treat by Houston fan and coach you realize NBA have some very stupid people. Houston fan he say not even bother go to game or if do not really even care. Coach have to PAY fans to cheer. This like sad pathetic joke to Hellas fans.

And he know he play for coach Obradovic who knowns around world as probale best coach in world and he say he best player he sees and then great van Gundy who cannot not keep from get himself fired believe he know all and cannot use player that not have game that only = stand still at 3 point line? But this coach really believe Alston great point guard. Remember he say in playoffs "Rafer Alston great point guard and hell of a good player."

I sorry but I doubt Popovich be say such thing. And this same coach admit he "suprise" he fired? Is he crazy or retard? But seem most Amerikan fan have such poor logics they not even see how such thing strange. They only come up with stupid things like "guess Spanoulis is a pussy then."

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

Dude no one wants Vag. Get that through your fucking head.

[ss1986v2]

Golden St Warriors NBA team yes??

http://youtube.com/watch?v=bGrbtxiZSHM

against them more good reason to believe van Gundy lies yes? Not like he show any ability for NBA this game either? Guess fan here all right he never do ANYTHING NBA he just same as college rookie :rolleyes

Guess this another magic fantasy clip?
what the fuck was that? a yao ming highlight show? i saw vagisil playing scrubs minutes in the 4th during a blowout. he had two layups and maybe a steal. yeah, sure looked like steve nash to me. :rolleyes

and again, why are you still here. you said you would leave if we still didnt give a crap. we dont. leave. you bring nothing new to the table.

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

what the fuck was that? a yao ming highlight show? i saw vagisil playing scrubs minutes in the 4th during a blowout. he had two layups and maybe a steal. yeah, sure looked like steve nash to me. :rolleyes

and again, why are you still here. you said you would leave if we still didnt give a crap. we dont. leave. you bring nothing new to the table.

1. Rocket owner compare him to Nash

http://blogs.chron.com/sportsjustice/archives/2007/06/rockets_in_0708.html

I think it was Les Alexander who once compared Spanoulis to Steve Nash. That's an exaggeration, but as the Rockets prepare for '07-'08, Spanoulis is one of the intriguing possibilities.

2. Yao compare him to Nash

http://www.nba.com/rockets/news/Rockets_vs_Bucks_Postgame_Quo-192279-34.html

ROCKETS CENTER YAO MING

(on the play of Vassilis Spanoulis) "He's great. He can see the court. He's little and people say that because he's little, he can't see the court, but he can. He always makes the right decision to pass to the right people in the right position and his passes are right on target. Given time, I think he will be like Steve Nash one day."

3. People with the low bball IQ such as Van Gundy get fired by peoples above for benching of Greek Nash

4. Fans that believe the Van Gundy and think Spanoulis "suck" also have no basketball knowledges

[jay014]

also you wrong:

again you call Popovich liar then

Since Spur fan believe I lie and Spur not want Spanoulis explain to me how they think coach tell lie then?

http://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/...en.39e9f7b.html

Missing Vassilis: Popovich says he wishes Vassilis Spanoulis, now a guard for Panathinaikos, would have stayed in the States.

Spanoulis, traded to the Spurs in the offseason as part of the Luis Scola deal, was waived in early July after he made it clear he had no intention of remaining in the NBA.

"He had a great chance to be a backup on our team," Popovich said. "I was disappointed when he said he didn't want to play in the NBA anymore. I didn't even get to talk to him about it. Not one word."


This before Spanoulis demand trade and after this remember Parker be ask by Popovich to talk to him throughs Parker and asks him stay remember I prove this before with posts here and link to story. So Spur fan then if what say true they believe Spur not want Spanoulis they call Popovich liar. Guess no fan here like deal with facts.

This kind of fan he used to in Hellas with Panathinaikos

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Put yourself in Pops shoes when you got reporters and camermamen asking you about Spanoulis what are you going to say? I'm happy he's not going to play in the NBA he's going to save us a ton of money. How's that going to look to other free agents."I didn't even get to talk to him about it. Not one word" coming from a coach that went to Slovenia to talk with Rasho about being their starting center what does that tell you? He had no intention of Spanoulis joining the Spurs.

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

Put yourself in Pops shoes when you got reporters and camermamen asking you about Spanoulis what are you going to say? I'm happy he's not going to play in the NBA he's going to save us a ton of money. How's that going to look to other free agents."I didn't even get to talk to him about it. Not one word" coming from a coach that went to Slovenia to talk with Rasho about being their starting center what does that tell you? He had no intention of Spanoulis joining the Spurs.

So the story from parker asking Spanoulis to play on Spurs because of Buford and Popovich ask him also lie? Guess you change story any way you can? You sound like President 25 different reason for Iraq war.

Guess Parker have dinner with Spanoulis and ask him please stay from Buford and Pop just for lack of any other things do?

[jay014]

Maybe you can have dinner with Spanoulis and shove his dick down your throat you fucking idiot.

[ss1986v2]

yeah, yeah, we know. whatever. we still dont care. so why are you still here?

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

yeah, yeah, we know. whatever. we still dont care. so why are you still here?


You do understands Manu my 3rd favorite player and Spurs my favorite NBA team yes?

[wildbill2u]

Bill said, "Billy now must first learn about Spurs before make such mistake again to be stuck with loser type team and coach like he gets before. And make sure there not be same stupid and worthless type fan because he rather then give the basketball to real fans of Panathinaikos. You Amerikan say such thing make him "pussy" and "cry baby" you liars. I like see how Amerikan feel if such happen to them get job in Hellas"

Fine. I agree with you that some fans here are rude and name callers, but you are a little obsessive about Spanoulis. It doesn't do any good to rant about fans or about how Van Gundy and the Rockets didn't treat him right.

No one here cares. It is not our problem. And Spanoulis better get over it if he wants to come back to the NBA with any team, not just the Spurs.

But let's look at the bottom line: Money. I asked you before about his bottom line on salary. If he insists on getting $4.5 million, it won't be from the Spurs. We are a small market team with a three expensive All-stars in Duncan, Parker and Manu. There isn't going to be any room for a backup PG at Spanoulis's price.

So maybe you need to start shopping those videos around at some other team's fan websites. The Spurs are really pretty good about letting players who don't fit in here go to other teams. Ask Louis Scola.

[Ariel]

You do understands Manu my 3rd favorite player and Spurs my favorite NBA team yes?
Like you, I'm an international poster myself. And on top of being a Spurs fan, I also root for some my favorite players and want them to do well. So of course I get why you'd like to see your favorite basketball player on your favorite NBA team. Makes perfect sense. However, while I understand part of your motives, I'm not sure what you're trying to accomplish here. The thing is, your barking up the wrong tree.

It's Spanoulis who fled back to Greece in desperation, not the Spurs or their fans who turned him down. He even said that he wouldn't stay in the NBA even if the Spurs offered him a starting place, that it was a serious matter that far surpassed basketball, and that he could not live in the US under any circumstance. Those sound like pretty strong words to me.

So in summary, it's not us you need to convince. If Billy "tells" you things, like you keep saying, then you'll be better served "telling" Billy your arguments. Until then, relax and, every now and then, engage in different Spurs related discussions. You know, the kind that don't involve Spanoulis. Like say... ANY Spurs discussion... alright?

[anakha]

If Fan Here Say They Not Want Such PG I Will Leave

Well, KBP? Why are you still here then? Hasn't the response been loud enough for you?

[ss1986v2]

You do understands Manu my 3rd favorite player and Spurs my favorite NBA team yes?
that has nothing to do with the matter at hand. you said:


If Fan Here Say They Not Want Such PG I Will Leave
well, "we not want". for the 1,437th time, "we not want". actually, we simply dont care. so please, leave.

at the very least, stop talking about vagisil. this is a spurs board, not a vagisil board. if you want to take part in relevant spurs related topics, go for it. i, and most everyone here, would encourage it. but you dont. all you ever talk about here is vagisil. and for the 1,438th time, "we not want" and we dont care. so either leave, or move on.

[Extra Stout]

You be mad too if take 1/3 money for such coach after same coach promise on phone you be 20-25 minute each game and this only reason you agree then to takes less money. Then fan take coach side and make fun of Billy when coach MAKES UP LIES he say "I T-Mac of Greece" when he never say such thing then coach go on radio and make fun of his accent and make fun of Greece and they have no toilet and no water in homes and play game in barns and such and pay player in goats and cheese so Billy should "shut up and be happy and stop bitch about play time because he now have bathroom in home". Billy upset by it and coach say "dog house all year" Houston fan pick on him not coach for such antic always Van Gundy must be saint or something. Billy think people in Houston very poor classes to be tell such thing by coach on radio and think it "cool" and make fun of Greece and Greek people like such. He wonder how so many people can be so stupid and pathetic all over like in Houston there.
I live in Houston, and am fairly familiar with the Spanakopitas saga, which is to say there wasn't one. Everything you are claiming Van Gundy said you have fabricated. If Van Gundy actually had said that to the media, the several thousand Greeks in Houston would have gone ballistic. The only thing that was mentioned was that Spanakopitas was ineffective, and that Van Gundy was displeased with his refusal to adjust his style of play to the NBA, to which Spanakopitas would just shrug his shoulders and flippantly say, "Basketball is basketball."

You are some kind of sick demon-possessed pathological liar obsessed with a player nobody else cares about. That, or you are a troll of unequaled complexity and brilliance, like something Andy Kaufman might come up with. If the former is true, the Greek authorities need to get you into some kind of sanitorium. If the latter, then bravo.

[Dex]

Your point guard isn't good enough for the NBA.

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

I live in Houston, and am fairly familiar with the Spanakopitas saga, which is to say there wasn't one. Everything you are claiming Van Gundy said you have fabricated. If Van Gundy actually had said that to the media, the several thousand Greeks in Houston would have gone ballistic. The only thing that was mentioned was that Spanakopitas was ineffective, and that Van Gundy was displeased with his refusal to adjust his style of play to the NBA, to which Spanakopitas would just shrug his shoulders and flippantly say, "Basketball is basketball."

You are some kind of sick demon-possessed pathological liar obsessed with a player nobody else cares about. That, or you are a troll of unequaled complexity and brilliance, like something Andy Kaufman might come up with. If the former is true, the Greek authorities need to get you into some kind of sanitorium. If the latter, then bravo.


This lie. Spanoulis NEVER say "I T-Mac of Greece" radio people say to Van Gundy "Spanoulis say he T-Mac of Greece" then Van Gundy make fun of him and Greece and accent. Then he start repeat over and over LIE that Billy say "T-mac of Greece". And stupid fan keep says it over and over.

You not know this happen then fine but not act like it not true because thing happen. Van Gundy especially make comment about in Greece they play basketball in barn so how can they know basketball. He make many such comment. And you act like Greek people be after him? Why? Most the Greekl in Houston AMERIKAN not from Hellas. And most Greek in Amerika HATE Billy. He tell me many time how much hate in the mail he get from the Amerikan Greek about he is "pussy" and "whiner" and "crys baby" and all the same craps.

But these people never have even try find out truth. On clutchfans site they ALL still believe every word Van Gundy make up which was ALL lies. Billy never say such things and coach make him look foolish. Remember coach make up lie about "his mommy call the team and beg us let her Billy be OK"

The fan of Houston and reporter of Houston attack him for MONTHS over this thing but problem Billy mom NEVER call Rockets it LIE made up by coach.

I guesses you just exact typical like other fan from Houston.

[jay014]

http://www.noobstore.com/prodimages/tshirt-m-gtfo-Green-art-180.gif

[Mister Sinister]

This lie. Spanoulis NEVER say "I T-Mac of Greece" radio people say to Van Gundy "Spanoulis say he T-Mac of Greece" then Van Gundy make fun of him and Greece and accent. Then he start repeat over and over LIE that Billy say "T-mac of Greece". And stupid fan keep says it over and over.

You not know this happen then fine but not act like it not true because thing happen. Van Gundy especially make comment about in Greece they play basketball in barn so how can they know basketball. He make many such comment. And you act like Greek people be after him? Why? Most the Greekl in Houston AMERIKAN not from Hellas. And most Greek in Amerika HATE Billy. He tell me many time how much hate in the mail he get from the Amerikan Greek about he is "pussy" and "whiner" and "crys baby" and all the same craps.

But these people never have even try find out truth. On clutchfans site they ALL still believe every word Van Gundy make up which was ALL lies. Billy never say such things and coach make him look foolish. Remember coach make up lie about "his mommy call the team and beg us let her Billy be OK"

The fan of Houston and reporter of Houston attack him for MONTHS over this thing but problem Billy mom NEVER call Rockets it LIE made up by coach.

I guesses you just exact typical like other fan from Houston.
http://masklinnscans.free.fr/4chan/stop_posting.jpg

[Darkwaters]

Maybe you can have dinner with Spanoulis and shove his dick down your throat you fucking idiot.

I don't care how much you dislike this guy, don't say shit like that. Have a little decency and stop impersonating Suns fans.

[jay014]

I don't care how much you dislike this guy, don't say shit like that. Have a little decency and stop impersonating Suns fans.
How about this Darkwaters here is a Suns fan impersonation for you Why don't you join him at the dinner table and suck his cock. :hungry:

[ss1986v2]

we still dont care. please leave.

[jay014]

:flag:

[Darkwaters]

How about this Darkwaters here is a Suns fan impersonation for you Why don't you join him at the dinner table and suck his cock. :hungry:

Classy.

[jay014]

you asked for it.

[Indazone]

:rolleyes

[Darkwaters]

you asked for it.
Seeing as you're so interested in the subject of male on male oral sex, and keep bringing up the matter, I would think that some soul searching is in order. You should shelve your SpursTalk time until you can resolve your personal struggles and exorcise your demons.

[jay014]

call it as I see it. next time stay out.ab.......................................c just to make it simple.

[Darkwaters]

call it as I see it. next time stay out.ab.......................................c just to make it simple.

Just keep your homo-erotic fantasies to yourself. I'd prefer to discuss basketball and not let you simply revel in the nostalgia of your latest triumph.

[jay014]

Fuck you. I love Pussy,ass,and tits(small or large)just as much if not more than you.You fuckin PUSSY! Are you ok with that?

[DisciplinaryOffice]

So he be giving Spurs DISCOUNT.

Sold. Tell Billy he's welcome here--I'll chip in some $ if I have to.

[ChumpDumper]

If Bill wants to take the lower level exception, fine.

Otherwise, he's not worth taking the chance of his sucking in the NBA again.

Most everything I know about the Spurs confirms this point of view.

[whottt]

It's not like he has to sign with the Spurs to play in the NBA now KBP...


He didn't want to play for the Spurs...stop nagging us about it. We can't change it...


His choice he is not here, and frankly, our team has won 4 world championships...do you expect us to beg him? Why? Does our team look like it needs him?

And I'd say trading for him indicated the Spurs were interested...he wasn't.


Why are we supposed to be excited about a player who we traded for and didn't want to play for our World Championship Team?

You know what might have made us like him? If he'd honored the contract he was signed too when he we traded for him.....how about that for starters?


NOW STFU about it.

[ata]

Where was V-Span last night? Sleepwalking?
http://www.euroleague.net/main/results/showgame?gamecode=84

What a nice statistic for V-Span, great A/TO ratio (0.8)

[Indazone]

Ouch 5 turnovers.

[Indazone]

Since when does an NBA player care what the fans say about him? Fans are fickle. Fans are going to say whatever they are going to say. If it mattered then players like Stephan Marbury would have left NY a long time ago cause they hate him up there. There are a lot of other hated players too. Ron Artest got flamed a lot and so did Stephen Jackson of the Warriors. Kobe got bashed. Everyone gets bashed. Players in the NBA don't have a lot of say in where they go or whether they get traded or not. Even if Spanoulis came to the Spurs there is no guarantee that they wouldn't trade him at some point to say..the Portland Trailblazers. So how can you try to dictate whether to come or not? The NBA is a business. There are even fans on the Rockets calling for them to trade T-Mac and Yao. How stupid is that??

If Vassilis only care about money and whether the fans love him or not, then I'd say he needs to stay at PAO. If he wants to compete and play in the NBA with the worlds best players, then he needs to realize it's not easy. Nothing is guaranteed. If he comes to the Spurs, he then needs to prove himself on the court for playing time.

[Extra Stout]

[Please, for love of God the!! Stop tell me about the Spanoulis Billy the player.

Sucks does pg for the Euro suck suckity suck. We like more hear not him no and no you especially not so.

Go please away post stopping about no more him.




Span spam more no.
EHJ outed himself here. Sorry, bud, the gig is up.

[2centsworth]

saw those clips, he looked terrible. Also, the defenders put zero pressure on him. No wonder the guy couldn't cut it in the NBA.

bye bye.

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

Where was V-Span last night? Sleepwalking?
http://www.euroleague.net/main/results/showgame?gamecode=84

What a nice statistic for V-Span, great A/TO ratio (0.8)


Our team 14-0 Spanoulis lead team in assist we top team in Europe I think Spanoulis must be good player? Or this not be logic to you?

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

Since when does an NBA player care what the fans say about him? Fans are fickle. Fans are going to say whatever they are going to say. If it mattered then players like Stephan Marbury would have left NY a long time ago cause they hate him up there. There are a lot of other hated players too. Ron Artest got flamed a lot and so did Stephen Jackson of the Warriors. Kobe got bashed. Everyone gets bashed. Players in the NBA don't have a lot of say in where they go or whether they get traded or not. Even if Spanoulis came to the Spurs there is no guarantee that they wouldn't trade him at some point to say..the Portland Trailblazers. So how can you try to dictate whether to come or not? The NBA is a business. There are even fans on the Rockets calling for them to trade T-Mac and Yao. How stupid is that??

If Vassilis only care about money and whether the fans love him or not, then I'd say he needs to stay at PAO. If he wants to compete and play in the NBA with the worlds best players, then he needs to realize it's not easy. Nothing is guaranteed. If he comes to the Spurs, he then needs to prove himself on the court for playing time.


But in Athens Oly fans would probably try kill him if had chance. You realize in Hellas PAo player most hated of all players right? It not how fan act in general it how fan of OWN team act because of LIE spreads about him form coach. THIS he not understand.

But in Hellas you have the many fan like Aris another too but must understand Olympiacos Pao rivalry like WAR. Fan of other team may not get out of stadium with life if choose go to other team play court.

[Mixability]

You've heard of And 1 mixtapes, that vid is what I call an And None mixtape.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

Fuck you. I love Pussy,ass,and tits(small or large)just as much if not more than you.You fuckin PUSSY! Are you ok with that?
:lmao

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

You've heard of And 1 mixtapes, that vid is what I call an And None mixtape.

Guess you think Denis Lindsey idiot then? he one draft and sign Spanoulis he now doing oversea scout and player control for Spurs. Guess they must be idiot to hire such fool right?

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

I'm still waiting for your purpose here.

Spanoulis isn't on the Spurs.

The people have seen your videos of him.

They still don't want him.

Get the fuck over it.

[ChumpDumper]

Guess you think Denis Lindsey idiot then? he one draft and sign Spanoulis he now doing oversea scout and player control for Spurs. Guess they must be idiot to hire such fool right?Could be.

[Extra Stout]

Guess you think Denis Lindsey idiot then? he one draft and sign Spanoulis he now doing oversea scout and player control for Spurs. Guess they must be idiot to hire such fool right?
Sometimes they scout a player and he turns out to be a flop. It happens to the best of them, even Dennis Lindsey.

And Spanakopitas is nothing if not a flop, EHJ.

[K-State Spur]

This lie. Spanoulis NEVER say "I T-Mac of Greece" radio people say to Van Gundy "Spanoulis say he T-Mac of Greece" then Van Gundy make fun of him and Greece and accent. Then he start repeat over and over LIE that Billy say "T-mac of Greece". And stupid fan keep says it over and over.

You not know this happen then fine but not act like it not true because thing happen. Van Gundy especially make comment about in Greece they play basketball in barn so how can they know basketball. He make many such comment. And you act like Greek people be after him? Why? Most the Greekl in Houston AMERIKAN not from Hellas. And most Greek in Amerika HATE Billy. He tell me many time how much hate in the mail he get from the Amerikan Greek about he is "pussy" and "whiner" and "crys baby" and all the same craps.

But these people never have even try find out truth. On clutchfans site they ALL still believe every word Van Gundy make up which was ALL lies. Billy never say such things and coach make him look foolish. Remember coach make up lie about "his mommy call the team and beg us let her Billy be OK"

The fan of Houston and reporter of Houston attack him for MONTHS over this thing but problem Billy mom NEVER call Rockets it LIE made up by coach.

I guesses you just exact typical like other fan from Houston.

Was he making fun of the Greek accent...or just reading your posts verbatim?

[ss1986v2]

we still dont care.

why are you still here?

[Bruno]

Hasn't Spanoulis said that he wanted to have his brother with him if he decided to go back in nba. it complicates things because his brother had to stop his basket ball career to follow him.

Quite frankly, I don't see Spanoulis coming back in nba next year. There are just too much obstacles to that. It's not even sure that Spanoulis wants to leave again Greece and even if he was ready to try again to play in nba, his asking price will likely be too high for Spurs.
Pana's fans should be happy, Spanoulis will be with them for a moment.

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

Hasn't Spanoulis said that he wanted to have his brother with him if he decided to go back in nba. it complicates things because his brother had to stop his basket ball career to follow him.

Quite frankly, I don't see Spanoulis coming back in nba next year. There are just too much obstacles to that. It's not even sure that Spanoulis wants to leave again Greece and even if he was ready to try again to play in nba, his asking price will likely be too high for Spurs.
Pana's fans should be happy, Spanoulis will be with them for a moment.

Yes he would have stay this year with Rockets if his brother would come over and stay with him so his brother would be ables to take care of their mommy. But his brother in middle of play career in Greece and not want to give up career. And he play away from their mom and no one else to take care of her so Billy have to go to Athens if Dimitrios could not come to Amerika.

This make thing more hard for Billy to continue with the NBA.

[xmas1997]

I think IMHO that the Spurs definitely want VSpan, and most of us clear thinking Spur fans do too.
Kill Bill, why do you try so hard to convince those Spur fans that are always taking the "hard line"?
You will never convince them. Plus these are many of the same fans who call for the "Fire Pop" when things don't go right.
But I think by and large the majority of fans who have seen VSpan play, and know his game, need no convincing.
Nor do the Spurs FO or Pop. They will get VSpan over here next year if they can, and they should be able to.
I see no reason for you to try and convince VSpan that Spurs fans are as bad as Rockets fans, when it is only a select few who pan the guy and diss you.
I hope you understand what I am saying here.
Mainly, that the vast majority of Spurs fans who have seen and know VSpans' game, know beyond a doubt that he will be a great player for the Spurs!
What more can I say?

[Extra Stout]

If Billy come San Antonio he not get much minutes and not much money how he like. San Antonio also more different for Greek person in to live. It better for way of life and career he not come. Maybe he get again trade.

[xmas1997]

Kill Bill, please clear some of the messages from your private message area so you can receive some other messages!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[exstatic]

KBP is a troll, right? There cannot actually be a person THAT obtuse, can there?

[Extra Stout]

KBP is a troll, right? There cannot actually be a person THAT obtuse, can there?
I think he is an EHJ troll.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

I think he is an EHJ troll.
I think he is you.

[Extra Stout]

I think he is you.
I wish, but I need time to eat and sleep. I can't just spend all my time developing trolls.

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

OK many of the fan here are mad at me for the Spanoulis topics. So they ask for just one thread only about him where all thing be post in just same thread same way with Scola thread here. So I make this the thread for this and to help make board with less Spanoulis talk and make fan here more happy and less mad with me.


I start thread with the Vassilis Spanoulis Tribute Highlight Video

This video is his own highlight video and NEVER have any fan see this before. My friend in Hellas make video and never see before so thread start with this

http://youtube.com/watch?v=vVMW2Gngu2k

[ehz33satx]

Are you in love with Spanoulis?

[exstatic]

FUCK!!!!

[ehz33satx]

Why don't you ever mention how TP is kicking butt or Manu taking it to another level. Instead you ALWAYS talk about Spanoulis, who does not play for the Spurs and may never play for them.

[ehz33satx]

People get mad at you for constantly starting threads about him and yet here you go with another Spanoulis thread. 10 years from now when Spanoulis is still not playing for the Spurs will you finally stop talking about him? I doubt it.

[Phenomanul]

Personally I don't fault him for trying to take care of his mother at the cost of his NBA career.

And I actually believe that Van Gundy severely mishandled this whole situation.

It's the way that Vassilis handled that situation that didn't help his cause. He never should have taken it to the media.

Hopefully I'm wrong... and should he decide to play for the Spurs in the future that he prove his naysayers wrong.

[BonnerDynasty]

FUCK!!!!

lmmfao.

[Extra Stout]

Before Kill_Bill_Pana, I thought of Spanakopitas as an altogether inoffensive asset hidden away in Europe. Maybe someday he wants to try the NBA again, maybe not. No big deal. If he decides to come and he's any good, it's a windfall.

Now that we've had about 30,000 threads started by Kill_Bill_Pana about Spanakopitas, I have a visceral dislike of all Greek basketball players. In fact, I'm now on the fence about whether Greek independence from Turkey was really such a good thing. If Kill_Bill_Pana would just shut the hell up and go away, this visceral feeling, I think, would go away fairly quickly.

Kill_Bill_Pana, for the love of all that is good, please, please, please, PLEASE, find a new favorite basketball team, and a new forum to torment. I find myself wishing the Spurs could just package their #1 draft pick with Spanakopitas in exchange for a warm pile of poo, just so you would go torment some other team's fans instead of us.

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

People get mad at you for constantly starting threads about him and yet here you go with another Spanoulis thread. 10 years from now when Spanoulis is still not playing for the Spurs will you finally stop talking about him? I doubt it.

He will be backs with Spurs. He tell me and Spurs are in agreements. He will be with team after this year or next year. Depend on what role they wants him. Spur say he can be guard at both position which mean he can come after this year. Spanoulis want to play point guard only so this mean they bring him over when contract of Vaughn is over. Spanoulis tell me also get the agreement in contract of PAO to play point guard so that next time he go NBA no coach can make stupid argument he "shooting guard" because PAO team have 2 point guards. PAO team now have 3 point guards but Spanoulis run offense. This way he and agent decide so next time they will send stat and tape to next NBA team before sign contract makes point in stat and tape he POINT GUARD.

[ss1986v2]

why are you still here? please go away like you said you would. or are you a liar just like JVG?

[ehz33satx]

Nobody cares about all this but you and you alone. Maybe he does come over and maybe he does not, but until that happens quit posting about him, because honestly, NOBODY CARES! Don't you get it?

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

why are you still here? please go away like you said you would. or are you a liar just like JVG?

I say if all fan agree. Some of the fan tell me they want Spanoulis and for more story on him. Read thread again I not make such thing up to you. But they ask for special thread just about this so no more thread about him make special thread just like Scola have. So I do this and this what thread here is. this be last thread for him because all post of him go here like Scola thread. You understand what I say?

[ss1986v2]

I say if all fan agree. Some of the fan tell me they want Spanoulis and for more story on him. Read thread again I not make such thing up to you. But they ask for special thread just about this so no more thread about him make special thread just like Scola have. So I do this and this what thread here is. this be last thread for him because all post of him go here like Scola thread. You understand what I say?
im pretty sure the minority of fans that would like him back made it very clear that it was dependent on him taking somewhere between the min and the LLE. everyone was pretty much in consensus that they dont want him here at the near MLE amount of 4.5 mil.

and since that is what it would take to get him here (as you said), no one realistically wants him here. except you...

[ehz33satx]

You don't seem to understand. We don't want a Spanoulis thread at all. He does not play for the Spurs and he does not play in the NBA. So enough with the Spanoulis threads. You don't seem to understand the hate that YOU are creating for the guy. I am tired of hearing about Spanoulis from you. Do you even watch Spurs games?

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Best

troll

ever.

:lmao

[DisciplinaryOffice]

As usual, KBP, your posts are informative and entertaining. If your posts were really as traumatizing for these killjoys as they say they are, they wouldn't keep coming back for more. You understand?

Please pin this thread for him, Kori...I'd say he's earned it.

[ehz33satx]

Do you even go to any of the other threads and leave comments about Matt Bonner stepping it up, maybe how Tony Parker and Manu Ginobili are killing other NBA teams, how it would be nice to have Tim Duncan back, or even Fabricio Oberto having great games? Or how its good to see Robert Horry back? Nope. With you its Vassilis Spanoulis every single time. He does not play in the NBA anymore!!!!!!
Do you even recognize the names of any of the above mentioned Spurs players? Highly doubtful.

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

im pretty sure the minority of fans that would like him back made it very clear that it was dependent on him taking somewhere between the min and the LLE. everyone was pretty much in consensus that they dont want him here at the near MLE amount of 4.5 mil.

and since that is what it would take to get him here (as you said), no one realistically wants him here. except you...


Who decide what player team sign and what price fan or GM?

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

Do you even go to any of the other threads and leave comments about Matt Bonner stepping it up, maybe how Tony Parker and Manu Ginobili are killing other NBA teams, how it would be nice to have Tim Duncan back, or even Fabricio Oberto having great games? Or how its good to see Robert Horry back? Nope. With you its Vassilis Spanoulis every single time. He does not play in the NBA anymore!!!!!!
Do you even recognize the names of any of the above mentioned Spurs players? Highly doubtful.

Not true I have make many other post before but I cannot use the search ability to show you. Also Žarko Paspalj once play for Spurs and also Panathinaikos and also other Greek team to like Olympiacos, Panionios, Aris teams.

We get the Spur game for this also we know the Spur team very much ever since they playoff team especial since they win championship. You realize in Hellas we see the NBA game also yes? Of course fan of Panathinaikos team which have won 38 national champions in Greece and have won 5 international champions in Europe understand good other champion teams like Spurs which have 4 national champions in America. Also you think Panathinaikos fan have never see Manu play when he in Italy of Euroleague games?

You think Greek have never seen Hellas team play Parker against France before? Maybe you not know Greece kill France all time and Parker always get outplay by Spanoulis? There reason your team have interest in such player even if you one who not aware of players. yes Greek fan very much aware of Spurs players like them and Duncan and such. It problem of Amerikan fan not know such players in Europe that also very great and act arrogant even though they not know such thing. Many great players that are much better than most NBA player are in Europe but Amerikan fan believe this lie that all NBA players are so great.

You not even know ever year many of your NBA player get cut from Euroleague team because they are so poor they are not even good enough to make contract to stay on team. Yet many of these same player have stay in NBA many year. Just with Greek player alone we have several that can be great NBA player.

Spurs is team that understand such thing they LIKE the foreign player. Also Oberto play in Greece with Olympiacos but you must know this either. And you should understand Spanoulis is much much greater player in Greece than Oberto was. Washington play last year with PAOK team of Greece. Compare to Spanoulis he like complete scrub here. So yes we know much about many Spur player. We even know much about player like Duncan from watch him win 4 championship and know as well he best PF of the all times.

You know such thing?

Walter Berry of Spurs play many year in Hellas

[duncan228]

Not true I have make many other post before but I cannot use the search ability to show you.

Search is back.
You can use it.

[duncan228]

You've started 13 threads.
Everyone of them is about Spanoulis.

http://spurstalk.com/forums/search.php?searchid=482943

[monkeypunk]

Hey Kill Bill, didn't you say that V-span would only come if his current team wins it all and the Spurs repeat?

I'm curious as to why that would make a difference in whether or not he wants to come play for San Antonio?

[ss1986v2]

Who decide what player team sign and what price fan or GM?
not the question. you asked if we wanted him. if he comes at that price, we dont. again, "we not want". and yet you are still here...

[Mr. Body]

I can't wait for Spanoulis to be on the team just so we can have postgame interviews in pidgin English using only a bizarre form of the present tense.

[BonnerDynasty]

Who the fuck is this guy to tell the Spurs that he will ONLY be PG? Fuck that attitude.

[duncan228]

Not true I have make many other post before but I cannot use the search ability to show you.

Along with the 13 threads you've started there are 300 posts that come up under your name.
They all refer to Spanoulis even if the thread was about something else.

http://spurstalk.com/forums/search.php?searchid=482945&pp=25&page=1

Can you see why people are so fed up with you?
It's too much harping about this guy.
We've heard your point of view.
It's more than obvious that most people here aren't interested.
Please, take the hint.
STOP posting about Spanoulis.
Talk about something, anything else.
Please.

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

You've started 13 threads.
Everyone of them is about Spanoulis.

http://spurstalk.com/forums/search.php?searchid=482943

But he ask if I have make post in other topic. I have before many time.

[Kori Ellis]

Look little freak ...

I have held my mouth about you for long enough.

We get it. You "Heart" Spanoulis.

We get it. You lie awake at night devise ways you can "prove" to us stupid Amerikans how awesome he is.

We get it. You think he is worthy of making more money than Bruce Bowen.

No one here gives a dang about your freakin psychotic obsession with Spanoulis.

From now on, every post you make about Spanoulis will be automatically deleted unless it has some valid news information regarding the Spurs. I determine what's valid and what's not.

What freakin sucks is that I actually liked Spanoulis before you started all your wild mumbo jumbo. In rookie training in NYC in 2006, he tore up the other NBA rookies. I thought he was going to be able to develop into a good player.

"Billy" isn't a point guard (I don't care if you show me 1000 YouTube videos.) "Billy" is a wild slasher who would likely just be a small SG in the NBA but might be able to become a decent combo guard.

[ehz33satx]

Can you see why people are so fed up with you?
It's too much harping about this guy.
We've heard your point of view.
It's more than obvious that most people here aren't interested.
Please, take the hint.
STOP posting about Spanoulis.
Talk about something, anything else.
Please.

My feelings exactly.

[duncan228]

But he ask if I have make post in other topic. I have before many time.

You have.
300 times.
And every one of those refers to Spanoulis too, no matter what the topic was.
Search for yourself. I did, the results, and the link, are in my last post.

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

Hey Kill Bill, didn't you say that V-span would only come if his current team wins it all and the Spurs repeat?

I'm curious as to why that would make a difference in whether or not he wants to come play for San Antonio?

I do not think he care if Spur win title as for him come. He only would want them still be one of best NBA team in 2 years when he come. But he know like all other Spurs still be great team in 2 years so not matter.

He only care about Panathinaikos win all. He have 2 year then to win Triple Crown Championship of Europe. He have already won Greek championship and Greek Cup championship but he leave team before they win Euroleague.

So this year if they win all 3 again they be second of all team in history to get triple crown champion in the back to back year then if do so next year first ever to have the 3 year in row triple champion.

Billy very confident Panathinaikos will have the 3 straight triple crown champion first of all time, then he will join Spurs after he be part of greatest team of ever in Europe.

[duncan228]

Look little freak ...

I have held my mouth about you for long enough.

We get it. You "Heart" Spanoulis.

We get it. You lie awake at night devise ways you can "prove" to us stupid Amerikans how awesome he is.

We get it. You think he is worthy of making more money than Bruce Bowen.

No one here gives a dang about your freakin psychotic obsession with Spanoulis.

From now on, every post you make about Spanoulis will be automatically deleted unless it has some valid news information regarding the Spurs. I determine what's valid and what's not.

What freakin sucks is that I actually liked Spanoulis before you started all your wild mumbo jumbo. In rookie training in NYC in 2006, he tore up the other NBA rookies. I thought he was going to be able to develop into a good player.

"Billy" isn't a point guard (I don't care if you show me 1000 YouTube videos.) "Billy" is a wild slasher who would likely just be a small SG in the NBA but might be able to become a decent combo guard.

Thank you Kori! :clap
You saved us! :toast

[Kori Ellis]

You have.
300 times.
And every one of those refers to Spanoulis too, no matter what the topic was.
Search for yourself. I did, the results, and the link, are in my last post.

They don't all refer to Spanoulis. Sometimes he trashed Greg Oden when he got injured and called us stupid Amerikans for thinking he'd be good. He also made some anti-American posts regarding George Bush and WMDs.

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

I can't wait for Spanoulis to be on the team just so we can have postgame interviews in pidgin English using only a bizarre form of the present tense.

Billy can speak English also he can talk as well with this as me I show proof with Spanoulis interview of Rockets on the youtube video

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Odmj7i7a6Ck

[anakha]

From now on, every post you make about Spanoulis will be automatically deleted unless it has some valid news information regarding the Spurs. I determine what's valid and what's not.


http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/6978/kaneklapae4wf6lm9.gif (http://imageshack.us)

[duncan228]

They don't all refer to Spanoulis. Sometimes he trashed Greg Oden when he got injured and called us stupid Amerikans for thinking he'd be good. He also made some anti-American posts regarding George Bush and WMDs.

I admit that after the first 100 or so I skimmed rather than reading every one.
But he brought Spanoulis into most of them.
Point is moot now anyway, you've put an end to it and it's much appreciated.

[Stump]

Whatever. If he really only talks about V-Span in this thread alone from here on out, I don't see the problem. Those of us who aren't interested can just ignore it.

[Kori Ellis]

Whatever. If he really only talks about V-Span in this thread alone from here on out, I don't see the problem.
Well it's not your website, so when you start one, you can determine the rules.

[anakha]

And the housecleaning commences... :lmao

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

You have.
300 times.
And every one of those refers to Spanoulis too, no matter what the topic was.
Search for yourself. I did, the results, and the link, are in my last post.

I not believe this true.

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

They don't all refer to Spanoulis. Sometimes he trashed Greg Oden when he got injured and called us stupid Amerikans for thinking he'd be good. He also made some anti-American posts regarding George Bush and WMDs.

I make post on many topic before. I not sure about the Greg Oden one? Maybe confuse me before with other poster? Also I not make post against Amerikan about WMD this not anti Amerikan post. I say before that in Amerika President have lie about this and press of Amerika let him get away with this until when he final admit no WMD they fail report this until become obvious to all.

I say this when chumpdumper acuse Greek media of being liars and he say that only Amerika media can be use as source, I try explain him in Hellas Presidentr lie about WMD never be allow to start even. I just say we have actual higher standard of the media. This not intend to be anti against the Amerikan people.

[ehz33satx]

Billy can speak English also he can talk as well with this as me I show proof with Spanoulis interview of Rockets on the youtube video

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Odmj7i7a6Ck

I will give you one thing Kill_Bill, your a lil' bulldog. You keep coming back for more and you don't back down. Either that or your not right mentally. Still, enough with the VSpan crap.

[ehz33satx]

Well it's not your website, so when you start one, you can determine the rules.

Kori Ellis is a beast! Rock on baby!

[Stump]

Well it's not your website, so when you start one, you can determine the rules.
I actually typed that message a minute or so before you posted as a reply to some of the cruder posters, but I got distracted and submitted the reply a little late.

It wasn't meant an attack at your decision. My bad.

[ehz33satx]

Kori Ellis is our Mr. T!

[ChumpDumper]

I say this when chumpdumper acuse Greek media of being liarsTurns out they actually were liars.

[Kori Ellis]

I make post on many topic before. I not sure about the Greg Oden one? Maybe confuse me before with other poster?




Re: Oden Out For Season!
http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=77595

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Firsts I roll my eye at all those "experts" and fans that thinks players likes Oden and Amare better than Yao in "few years"

How longs before they figure out these all athlete no skills players just get bad knees and be shells, players like Yao and Duncan not even decline till mid 30s probably.

Dwight Howard be probably having microfracture too soon enough.

Yes this like curse of Sam Bowie again, buts if this is Sam Bowie again then this makes Durant = New Jordan

[ss1986v2]

kori just gave us all an early christmas present.

[DisciplinaryOffice]

You all do realize that you take this way too seriously, don't you? As far as I can tell, Kill Bill does no harm, and his posts only persist as long as people engage him, which is supposed to be a positive thing on a message board--even if it's dissent. And, for the record, there is nothing anti-American about dissent...there would be no America without it.

[Kori Ellis]

You all do realize that you take this way too seriously, don't you?

You do realize that starting a handful of different threads in a couple days about a guy who doesn't play on the Spurs is too much, right?

[ehz33satx]

You all do realize that you take this way too seriously, don't you? As far as I can tell, Kill Bill does no harm, and his posts only persist as long as people engage him, which is supposed to be a positive thing on a message board--even if it's dissent. And, for the record, there is nothing anti-American about dissent...there would be no America without it.

You must be a pacifist.

[anakha]

As far as I can tell, Kill Bill does no harm, and his posts only persist as long as people engage him.

Almost, but not quite.

[ShoogarBear]

http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/6978/kaneklapae4wf6lm9.gif (http://imageshack.us)This should go in the "teach Tim to clap" thread.

[mavs>spurs2]

Just admit that V-Span>Jordan and be done with it

[DisciplinaryOffice]

You do realize that starting a handful of different threads in a couple days about a guy who doesn't play on the Spurs is too much, right?

I suppose, but he has effectively agreed to confine his Spanoulis posts to a single thread from now on, and he just doesn't seem like someone who needs to have the hammer lowered on him to me. It's not my website, either, but if it were, I'd be more concerned with some of the extremely derisive responses to KBP than with perceived quality of his posts. It takes a lot more thought/effort to do what he does than to insult him.


You must be a pacifist.

...Depends on what you mean by "pacifist", but I do believe this:

"War may sometimes be a necessary evil. But no matter how necessary, it is always an evil, never a good. We will not learn how to live together in peace by killing each other's children." -Jimmy Carter

[ata]

@Kori: how come, that Kill Bill doesn't have any title yet?

@all: any suggestions for KBP's title?

[sendman]

I suppose, but he has effectively agreed to confine his Spanoulis posts to a single thread from now on, and he just doesn't seem like someone who needs to have the hammer lowered on him to me. It's not my website, either, but if it were, I'd be more concerned with some of the extremely derisive responses to KBP than with perceived quality of his posts. It takes a lot more thought/effort to do what he does than to insult him.



...Depends on what you mean by "pacifist", but I do believe this:

"War may sometimes be a necessary evil. But no matter how necessary, it is always an evil, never a good. We will not learn how to live together in peace by killing each other's children." -Jimmy Carter

:tu :tu :tu :tu :tu
Those, that you are referring to, will never admit their "gang bang" mentality.
I'll use their own words to explain. They are just having some fun, they don't mean anything by it. :dizzy

[xmas1997]

Seems to me IMHO too many on here are over reacting to KBP's posts.
Some of us actually find it quite illuminating.
And many of us follow European basketball among others.
Why all the animosity?
It is really quite simple, if you don't want to read news about VSpan, or Luis Scola, or who the hell other player, then just don't read those threads.
Some of us however like hearing news of certain players like Splitter and VSpan. Others like, or used to like, hearing news of other players like Scola.
So lighten up everyone. It takes all kinds to make this world go around.
And as the Iceman is so fond of saying, "what goes around, goes around".
Many of us here appreciate what KBP has to say on the matter. He seems to have an "insiders" opinion on things related to VSpan.
So what's the big problem???????????????
Granted, some on here are tired of hearing about him.
But it is equally true that some of us are not!
Is this forum going to start being regulated so strickly that it becomes like that other forum.
Hopefully not, although I like, and post in, both forums.
So again I ask, lighten up. Have some fun.
Life is far too short to be making such big issues over this.

[Kori Ellis]

So what's the big problem???????????????

That he starts thread after thread after thread after thread after thread saying the same thing.

[MaNuMaNiAc]

@Kori: how come, that Kill Bill doesn't have any title yet?

@all: any suggestions for KBP's title?Unbelievable ass in the pain

[ChumpDumper]

:tu :tu :tu :tu :tu
Those, that you are referring to, will never admit their "gang bang" mentality.
I'll use their own words to explain. They are just having some fun, they don't mean anything by it. :dizzyI meant every word.


Some here are overreacting to the reactions to BTK's posts. If you don't like the reactions, don't read them.

[Kori Ellis]

...

You and Disciplinary Office can go start your own forum and then make your rules.

Here .. I have said that Spanoulis isn't a Spur, so we don't need four threads started about him within 48 hours.

[sendman]

Unbelievable ass in the pain
:lmao
Now, that is funny!

[MaNuMaNiAc]

Seems to me IMHO too many on here are over reacting to KBP's posts.
Some of us actually find it quite illuminating.
And many of us follow European basketball among others.
Why all the animosity?
It is really quite simple, if you don't want to read news about VSpan, or Luis Scola, or who the hell other player, then just don't read those threads.
Some of us however like hearing news of certain players like Splitter and VSpan. Others like, or used to like, hearing news of other players like Scola.
So lighten up everyone. It takes all kinds to make this world go around.
And as the Iceman is so fond of saying, "what goes around, goes around".
Many of us here appreciate what KBP has to say on the matter. He seems to have an "insiders" opinion on things related to VSpan.
So what's the big problem???????????????Illuminating?? pleeeaase! now I know you haven't even bothered to check the 300 plus "Why Spurs not want get Billy?", "Billy say she play Spurs with", "Billy say he no problem", "Spurs need be at Billy looking, he Europe best" etc, ETC, ETC!!

You want to be illuminated, get a fucking lamp! This dude is about the biggest pain in the neck to come in here in a long time. Its THREAD after THREAD after THREAD, with no signs of stopping. Its as if the dude thinks people in here have the power to sign Spanoulis :rolleyes

[anakha]

:tu :tu :tu :tu :tu
Those, that you are referring to, will never admit their "gang bang" mentality.
I'll use their own words to explain. They are just having some fun, they don't mean anything by it. :dizzy

Are you referring to a post I made?

http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2059610#post2059610


You shouldn't get too pissy with the Beno-bashing - I'd say the majority of these posts are more about having some fun at his expense than about actually disliking him.

At least in my case, it is. :lol

If that's the case, first off, quit being such a vagina over Beno.

Second, taking one poster's words and automatically attributing them to a larger group of people? Smart. Real Smart.

And third?

http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2059618#post2059618


Yeah, and when some mob is caught groping somebody, majority of these gropers are more about having some fun than about actually disliking (hurting) her or even him.

At least in your case it is?

Good job, carry on!

:lmao :lmao :lmao at you for making probably the most idiotic analogy in the world.

[sendman]

You and Disciplinary Office can go start your own forum and then make your rules.

Here .. I have said that Spanoulis isn't a Spur, so we don't need four threads started about him within 48 hours.
Why are we so defensive? I'm no sheriff to set rules for anybody. I'm just speaking my mind and pointing out the obvious. I don't expect to achieve anything. If I can talk, they can talk. And "gang bangers" are outnumbering me by a lot, so I'm no threat to them. Since when is speaking your peace a problem on this forum?

[Indazone]

OMG I cannot believe this thread is actually still continuing.

[xmas1997]

I meant every word.


Some here are overreacting to the reactions to BTK's posts. If you don't like the reactions, don't read them.

That is an ironic but aptly true statement if I ever read one. :lol
But just so you know, I usually don't read too many of the innane with cussing replys to KBP unless they are on the humorous side.
It only takes a few seconds to determine those, and then just go on the next post.
Maybe KBP does post too many threads on the subject, but are you really keeping score on this?
Why?
Frankly, when I go from forum to forum looking for those particular threads that appeal to me on both ST and SR and on other forums, I look for threads pertaining to VSpan, Splitter, and that other SF (forgot his name) the Spurs have stashed away playing in other leagues.
I have done this since before Manu, and was quite proud of the fact that when others were scratching their heads wondering who Manu was and how he could be so good, I had already done my homework on them.
I see no difference in this situation.
Really good teams and FOs in this league do this on a consistant basis, and they also give their players (the ones with character anyway) the lattitude to spend needed time with their families when it is needed, ala Horry.
Plus the really informed fan also does this.
Chill, guys and gals. Life is too short. And there are much bigger issues to get bent over.
Well its late. Long day tomorrow driving to El Paso.
But I gaurantee you that tomorrow evening once I get back online here, I will hopefully still find this thread here thriving, as well as those about Splitter and others I keep tabs on.
'Night all!
Go Spurs Go

[Kori Ellis]

, I look for threads pertaining to VSpan, Splitter, and that other SF (forgot his name) the Spurs have stashed away playing in other leagues.


I don't mind threads about Splitter, Javtokas, or Sanikidze - they are the Spurs property. But the Spurs don't have Spanoulis stashed anywhere. They released him. They don't have any rights to him. Thus, the reason why we don't need 4-5 thread a week started by a guy screaming at Spurs fans about how awesome Spanoulis is and "Billy says" this and that.

[sendman]

Are you referring to a post I made?

http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2059610#post2059610



If that's the case, first off, quit being such a vagina over Beno.

Second, taking one poster's words and automatically attributing them to a larger group of people? Smart. Real Smart.

And third?

http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2059618#post2059618



:lmao :lmao :lmao at you for making probably the most idiotic analogy in the world.

He, he, somebody recognized himself and feels hurt.

So, let's go step by step.
Yeah, YOU ARE DEFENITLY one of "gang bangers" in my book, and you can't do shit about it...Wrong! You can do a lot about it, but it's up to you.

About that vagina part. I didn't start one single thread about him. If my opinion is different from yours and that bothers you so much...sorry!

About using your words and attributing them to a larger group of people.
Sorry again, I shoud have asked you for Copy rights :rolleyes .

"Gang banging" usually involves a larger group of people. So it would be stupid of me to call you a "gang banger" if you were alone. YOU ARE NOT THAT GOOD. :p: :p: :p:

[xmas1997]

You and Disciplinary Office can go start your own forum and then make your rules.

Here .. I have said that Spanoulis isn't a Spur, so we don't need four threads started about him within 48 hours.


Kori, granted, technically he isn't a Spur in the same vein that lets say Scola was, but you cannot deny that the Spurs do actually have the inside track on making him one in the near future, can you?
Also, technically he was a Spur for a short amunt of time, or they at least held his rights due to the trade, and its' been commonly known that VSpan would like to be a Spur in the future as well as reports that the Spurs FO and Pop are still very much interested in him.
Consequently, so am I interested in him and any other bits of information that can be shed on the subject.
So technically speaking why is this any less interesting than the countless millions of previous Scola threads?
No more, no less. :lol

[anakha]

He, he, somebody recognized himself and feels hurt.

So, let's go step by step.
1) Yeah, YOU ARE DEFENITLY one of "gang bangers" in my book, and you can't do shit about it...Wrong! You can do a lot about it, but it's up to you.

About that vagina part. I didn't start one single thread about him. If my opinion is different from yours and that bothers you so much...sorry!

2) About using your words and attributing them to a larger group of people.
Sorry again, I shoud have asked you for Copy rights :rolleyes .

"Gang banging" usually involves a larger group of people. So it would be stupid of me to call you a "gang banger" if you were alone. YOU ARE NOT THAT GOOD. :p: :p: :p:

1) As I've said before, I'm ambivalent to Beno's success outside of the Spurs, because he's no longer a Spur.

Anything Beno-related I've posted has been pretty much in response to your idiocy, and nothing more. Please, link me to anything I've posted that proves otherwise.

In other words, :lmao at you referencing me when railing against Beno haters when I'm not even one.

2) I was pointing out the stupidity of you taking what I said and assuming anything posted here against Beno was made using the same mentality.

And you completely missed the point. :lmao

And the gangbanger analogy is still stupid, no matter how you try to spin it.

[ChumpDumper]

granted, technically he isn't a Spur in the same vein that lets say Scola was, but you cannot deny that the Spurs do actually have the inside track on making him one in the near future, can you?Sure we can deny that.

He's a Greek on a Greek team making more Greek money then he will if he comes back to the states and being treated like a demigod by Greeks as KLM proves with every post.

The team with the inside track is Greek.

[timvp]

Anybody in the NBA is more relevant to the Spurs than Spanoulis. Spanoulis makes more than three times as much money as the Spurs would ever offer him. The chances of Spanoulis ever coming back to the NBA is slim. The chances that the Spurs would be that team is even slimmer. If the Spurs wouldn't pay $9M for Scola, they sure aren't going to pay that amount of money for a tweener guard who bombed in the NBA his first time around. Maybe a team like the Raptors will pay that amount if Spanoulis dominates in Europe, but even that is unlikely.

Name anyone in the NBA and that player has as much of a chance or more of a chance of eventually becoming a Spur that Spanoulis.

[Indazone]

Why not just keep the Spanoulis Threads in an International Basketball forum. Then we can talk about all the International Basketball we want. Even how Real Madrid is mopping up everyone else this year :)

[MaNuMaNiAc]

I agree, the Vassilis Spanoulis Thread should be moved to the Basketball News Central... where it can be more easily ignored

[sendman]

1) As I've said before, I'm ambivalent to Beno's success outside of the Spurs, because he's no longer a Spur.

Anything Beno-related I've posted has been pretty much in response to your idiocy, and nothing more. Please, link me to anything I've posted that proves otherwise.

In other words, :lmao at you referencing me when railing against Beno haters when I'm not even one.

2) I was pointing out the stupidity of you taking what I said and assuming anything posted here against Beno was made using the same mentality.

And you completely missed the point. :lmao

And the gangbanger analogy is still stupid, no matter how you try to spin it.
Excuse me sir, but how exactly is Udrih relevant to this discussion?
In the past I raised my voice against bad mouthing a Spurs player with arguments that didn't have anything to do with basketball. In the mean time he became a former Spurs player. And you and others just continued to trash him. There is plenty of evidence for it on this forum to prove it. Don't make me go search for them, because you would look like, how should I say,...you are not telling the truth?
Today we are talking about something else and KBP is just a unfortunate reason for this discussion. KBP is a fact, and it's up tu us to deal with him. If you don't like him...ignore him, you don't have to call him names.
For example.
You called me today an idiotic vagina with stupid analogy. Why? Because I quoted your view on "mobing", "gangbanging" or however you want to call it.
And YES that is what you and some others are doing here, and you can try to wiggle your way out of it as much as you like. Written word is a hard fact and is sometimes sharper than a knife.

[anakha]

1) Excuse me sir, but how exactly is Udrih relevant to this discussion? In the past I raised my voice against bad mouthing a Spurs player with arguments that didn't have anything to do with basketball. In the mean time he became a former Spurs player. 2) And you and others just continued to trash him. There is plenty of evidence for it on this forum to prove it. Don't make me go search for them, because you would look like, how should I say,...you are not telling the truth?Today we are talking about something else and KBP is just a unfortunate reason for this discussion. KBP is a fact, and it's up tu us to deal with him. 3) If you don't like him...ignore him, you don't have to call him names.
For example.
You called me today an idiotic vagina with stupid analogy. Why? Because I quoted your view on "mobing", "gangbanging" or however you want to call it.
And YES that is what you and some other are doing here, and you can try to wiggle your way out of it as much as you like. 4) Written word is a hard fact and is sometimes sharper than knife.

1)
Those, that you are referring to, will never admit their "gang bang" mentality.
I'll use their own words to explain. They are just having some fun, they don't mean anything by it.

You brought up my post when complaining about posters here, which referenced a Beno topic.

Don't try to wiggle out of it now by trying to insist this isn't about your being all butthurt about Beno as well.

2) In other words, you have absolutely no evidence to back up your argument that I'm a Beno hater. :lmao

Show me where I was actively hating on Beno anywhere on this board and not responding to your stupidity. I insist, please.

3) Link to anywhere in this thread I was calling KBP names? Again, I insist. Show the proof before you make any statements of this sort.

4) :lmao at you using this statement when all you've done so far is own yourself by making sweeping generalizations about things that were never the case.

[Slo spurs fan]

Name anyone in the NBA and that player has as much of a chance or more of a chance of eventually becoming a Spur that Spanoulis.
Beno? :devil

[ChumpDumper]

Yes, Beno has a much better chance of being a Spur again than Spamoulis.

[sendman]

1)
2) In other words, you have absolutely no evidence to back up your argument that I'm a Beno hater. :lmao
Show me where I was actively hating on Beno anywhere on this board and not responding to your stupidity. I insist, please.

It took me about 30 seconds
http://spurstalk.com/forums/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=2059629

And on that note...

Beno sucks. :spin
:oops :oops :oops :oops That is well articulated argument in which you described your view on the subject.
This was just the first one I stumbled on. I don't want to waste another second on proving something I already know. And everybody else with a grain of salt in their heads for that matter.
I'm done with you!

[anakha]

It took me about 30 seconds
http://spurstalk.com/forums/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=2059629

:oops :oops :oops :oops That is well articulated argument in which you described you view on the subject.
This was just the first one I stumbled on. I don't want to waste another second on proving something I already know. And everybody else with a grain of salt in their heads for that matter.

:lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao

THAT'S your evidence!? A tongue-in cheek response to your being all pissy over Beno!?

Way to ignore the context of that post:


I'm not here to win a popularity contest. I just call it as I see it. If you don't like it, it's your problem. And the same goes other way around.

My response was a play on your statement then that 'You call it as you see it, and it's other people's problem if they don't like it'. And that you see other people having that same right.

Again, that was in response to your stupidity. Nothing more.

So, instead of proving me wrong, you instead show your lack of reading comprehension and being overly sensitive about all thing Beno-related. Congrats.


I'm done with you!

In other words, "I have no evidence to back up my wild claims, so I'll loudly proclaim I won and hope nobody calls me out on it". :lol

[sendman]

In other words, "I have no evidence to back up my wild claims, so I'll loudly proclaim I won and hope nobody calls me out on it". :lol

No, I was expecting you to admit that you are a liar...yeah right.:rolleyes

How full of yourself are you dude? First you wanted a proof, now you want another? To show everybody that you are even bigger liar? Are you enjoying being exposed?

I have an idea, you can try to convince me that "Beno sucks" is another way of saying I don't care one way or the other. You may succeed, my English is still not to good. :flypig

[anakha]

No I was expecting you to admit that you are lier...yeah right.:rolleyes

How full of yourself are you dude? First you wanted a proof, now you want another? To show everybody that you are even bigger lier? Are you enjoying being exposed?

I have an idea, you can try to convince me that "Beno sucks" is another way of saying I don't care one way or the other. You may succeed, my English is still not to good. :flypig

So you're still insisting I'm a Beno hater when you have no evidence to back you up? All that was "exposed" is your being overly sensitive about all things Beno related.

Just admit you misunderstood what I said because you were so prissy about anything said against Beno.

By the way, still waiting for your alleged "evidence" of both myself saying anything about Beno without your provocation or myself calling KBP any names. Or are you going to hide behind your "you're just a hater and a liar" defense again? :lol

[exstatic]

I agree, the Vassilis Spanoulis Thread should be moved to the Basketball News Central... where it can be more easily ignored
W E R D
Vaginitis Spanikopita is nothing more than Beno II, a mentally fragile b-ball player.

[wildbill2u]

"Walter Berry of Spurs play many year in Hellas"

:dizzy :spin :dizzy :rolleyes :dizzy :rolleyes

Stop it! I'm laughing so hard my stomach hurts!

For those of us old enough to remember Walter Berry as a Spur, this is no recommendation for European basketball.

One of our worst deals ever. Sort of an Alfredrick Hughes but slower.

[stxspurs]

I don't mind threads about Splitter, Javtokas, or Sanikidze - they are the Spurs property. But the Spurs don't have Spanoulis stashed anywhere. They released him. They don't have any rights to him. Thus, the reason why we don't need 4-5 thread a week started by a guy screaming at Spurs fans about how awesome Spanoulis is and "Billy says" this and that.


i concur, i even hate scola threads! besides Vasaline "unibrowilis" Spandexisis doesnt want to be here so we shouldnt even talk about it.

[duncan228]

I not believe this true.

Okay, here it is again. If you do not believe this is true, click on the links and read your own words.

Edit: The 13 threads you've started are now all merged into one. The titles of each thread are still there but it's too much work to list them.

http://spurstalk.com/forums/search.php?searchid=483278

300 posts you've made, most of which are either about Spanoulis or you mention him:

http://spurstalk.com/forums/search.php?searchid=483280

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

OK I make the Spur fan mad and angry and upset. I sorry now also seem all hate Billy. :depressed :rolleyes I sorry.

Also come close Christmas time and this not good thing. So I stop posts now for long time. Also Billy say he want the Spurs and Spurs fan like him. One day he will be with team and must have good relations with all.

So for long time now his news will be stopped. Update maybe when Euroleague and Greek league playoff begin, or maybe after Greek Cup championship.

So for now I stop and Billy agree we not intend upset fan only intend give them information. But Billy say Merry Christmas.

I leave Christmas gift with the gift Kori get for Christmas to the embed Vassilis Spanoulis Tribute which the fan here have not witness before from the Youtube channel.

I gets this from the realgm

http://youtube.com/watch?v=cHwY13rlPjA

http://youtube.com/watch?v=2JxYa3QqBYo

[ChumpDumper]

I've got nothing against Spanoulis, but I'm not going to hold my breath waiting for him to join the Spurs. Good luck to him whatever happens.

[Spurs Brazil]

Look little freak ...

I have held my mouth about you for long enough.

We get it. You "Heart" Spanoulis.

We get it. You lie awake at night devise ways you can "prove" to us stupid Amerikans how awesome he is.

We get it. You think he is worthy of making more money than Bruce Bowen.

No one here gives a dang about your freakin psychotic obsession with Spanoulis.

From now on, every post you make about Spanoulis will be automatically deleted unless it has some valid news information regarding the Spurs. I determine what's valid and what's not.

What freakin sucks is that I actually liked Spanoulis before you started all your wild mumbo jumbo. In rookie training in NYC in 2006, he tore up the other NBA rookies. I thought he was going to be able to develop into a good player.

"Billy" isn't a point guard (I don't care if you show me 1000 YouTube videos.) "Billy" is a wild slasher who would likely just be a small SG in the NBA but might be able to become a decent combo guard.

Thanks Kori

:worthy: :worthy: :worthy: :worthy:

[ArgSpursFan.]

Pepe Sanchez >Spanoulis
and Pepe is about 32 yr old already.

[Ariel]

Pepe Sanchez >Spanoulis
and Pepe is about 32 yr old already.
Ugh... no. I know you like to take masochism to new heights... but do us all a favor and STFU already. The rest of us Argentines on this board don't share the same trait. Go find some other cause to support. Stop dragging us along with you. Thanks.

[ArgSpursFan.]

Ugh... no. I know you like to take masochism to new heights... but do us all a favor and STFU already. The rest of us Argentines on this board don't share the same trait. Go find some other cause to support. Stop dragging us along with you. Thanks.

don´t like it don´t read it
BTW, what happened to el Diablo this season??:lmao
chokers!!

[monkeypunk]

Hey Kill Bill,

sorry some of these posters act like jerks (14 yr olds will do that), but just tell Billy that if he does end up coming to the Spurs and plays up to his potential, Spurs fans will embrace him whole-heartedly!

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

Thank you Kori! :clap
You saved us! :toast

[Indazone]

I've got nothing against Spanoulis, but I'm not going to hold my breath waiting for him to join the Spurs. Good luck to him whatever happens.

How can anyone from the Spurs board be hatin the dude. He's never stepped foot onto the court. It's like good luck wherever he is. End.

[exstatic]

Hey Kill Bill,

sorry some of these posters act like jerks (14 yr olds will do that), but just tell Billy that if he does end up coming to the Spurs and plays up to his potential, Spurs fans will embrace him whole-heartedly!
Hey, n00b, see if you still feel this way about this asshat and his obsession with Vaseline Spandex in 6 months.

Oh, and don't fucking apologize for me, ever.

[ehz33satx]

How can anyone from the Spurs board be hatin the dude. He's never stepped foot onto the court. It's like good luck wherever he is. End.

It's not that I hate the dude, I don't. I have seen videos of him in action and he is a great offensive threat. The thing that I don't like is K_B_P tries to shove him down our throats every chance he gets. K_B_P is the one leaving a bad taste in our mouths with his obsession with Spanoulis. He just doesn't get it. Concentrate on the greatness of this current Spurs team. Leave Spanoulis on the back burner till if and when he does come to play for the Spurs.
This is the last I am going to contribute to this thread of all threads. NO more of my 2 cents wasted on someone who does not currently play here in the States. Ciao!

[batboy]

don´t like it don´t read it
BTW, what happened to el Diablo this season??:lmao
chokers!!

On a hopefully unrelated note, anyone in the San Marcos area watching Boca on Wednesday?

EDIT: 4AM Wed. morning, yuck. Worse than F-1 in Asia. What is that, 7AM in Argentina?

[xmas1997]

Hey Kill Bill,

sorry some of these posters act like jerks (14 yr olds will do that), but just tell Billy that if he does end up coming to the Spurs and plays up to his potential, Spurs fans will embrace him whole-heartedly!

BRAVO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I totally concur!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It's shameful how some Spurs fans are no better than Suns or Mavs fans.

But it takes all kinds to make this world go 'round.

I also apologize, Kill Bill, for my fellow Spurs fans who have certainly not acted their age, whether they want me to or not! An apolgy is certainly in order!

[MaNuMaNiAc]

BRAVO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I totally concur!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It's shameful how some Spurs fans are no better than Suns or Mavs fans.

But it takes all kinds to make this world go 'round.

I also apologize, Kill Bill, for my fellow Spurs fans who have certainly not acted their age, whether they want me to or not! An apolgy is certainly in order!
gee... I wonder why all the posters that feel this way have less than 100 posts :rolleyes

[xmas1997]

gee... I wonder why all the posters that feel this way have less than 100 posts :rolleyes

Could it be because we dwarf your posts on other forums and rarely post here due to all the animosity that is here versus meaningful posts?????????
Naaa! :lol

[MaNuMaNiAc]

Could it be because we dwarf your posts on other forums and rarely post here due to all the animosity that is here versus meaningful posts?????????
Naaa! :lol

or could it be the fact you consider Kill Bills posts meaningful is a direct result of you having ONLY 55 posts??????

congrats on dwarfing my post count on other forums though! that and you missing the point of my last post completely! Seriously, well done!

[monkeypunk]

A turdburgular with 10,000,000 posts is still a turdburgular
:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol

[exstatic]

...and N00B is still a N00B.

[anakha]

:lol at "turdburgular".

Has your special needs class taught you new words today?

[monkeypunk]

...and N00B is still a N00B.

Like I said, 14 yr olds will do that...


:toast

[ss1986v2]

Like I said, 14 yr olds will do that...


:toast
wait, when did "turdburgular" make it on the witty and mature comeback list?

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

Today was great day for Spanoulis. At home PAO beat Siena in first game of Euroleague playoffs in front of 18,000 crowd and Spanoulis passed Manu on Euroleague all time scoring list.:downspin:

He also is now passed Fabricio Oberto also :rollin

Next up is Andres Nocioni. He only need 28 more points and he will pass him as well. :downspin:

[Bukefal]

ok malaka, seriously, why are you doing this? :P im interested, are you getting a good time of pushing other peoples buttons?? :p

Has the frappe gone to your head? or something?

gia mas!:toast

[Spursfan092120]

Today was great day for Spanoulis. At home PAO beat Siena in first game of Euroleague playoffs in front of 18,000 crowd and Spanoulis passed Manu on Euroleague all time scoring list.:downspin:

He also is now passed Fabricio Oberto also :rollin

Next up is Andres Nocioni. He only need 28 more points and he will pass him as well. :downspin:
Wow...KBP talking about Euro Ball..what a surprise. Yeah...do you know why Spanoulis passed Manu? Because Manu is busy playing big boy ball in the NBA...same with Oberto and Nocioni. When Spanoulis is good enough to play with the big boys, we'll talk a little more about him.

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

Wow...KBP talking about Euro Ball..what a surprise. Yeah...do you know why Spanoulis passed Manu? Because Manu is busy playing big boy ball in the NBA...same with Oberto and Nocioni. When Spanoulis is good enough to play with the big boys, we'll talk a little more about him.

lol he can play in NBA whenever he wants. His agent gets offers all the time.

[Bukefal]

lol he can play in NBA whenever he wants. His agent gets offers all the time.

Lol, sure about that? or is it just what the Greek media wants you to believe so the greek people can set their minds on some 'positive' stuff in the newspapers instead of the political problems greece is having right now. Something to dream for, when you dream and dream and dream, eventually, you will believe the dream is real.

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

Lol, sure about that? or is it just what the Greek media wants you to believe so the greek people can set their minds on some 'positive' stuff in the newspapers instead of the political problems greece is having right now. Something to dream for, when you dream and dream and dream, eventually, you will believe the dream is real.

lol Balkans players don't even care about NBA. You must obviously have them confused with some others. And this has nothing to do with media in Greece. Spanoulis agent gets offers from NBA all the time.

He is happy with PAO though. If he wants to come to NBA after next year he will be able to pick his team.

[Spursfan092120]

lol he can play in NBA whenever he wants. His agent gets offers all the time.
Do you know these agents? Proof please? Link? LMAO...Yeah..those blistering 2.7 points and 0.9 assists per game he got with the Rockets REALLY shows how much he'd dominate the NBA. He told Van Gundy "I was McGrady back home." Van Gundy told him "That's great...well, McGrady is McGrady here." Then they sent him to SA, and the Spurs released him. But yeah..2.7 points per game and a bad attitude..I'm sure teams are lining up to sign him... :lmao:lmao

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

LMAO...Yeah..those blistering 2.7 points and 0.9 assists per game he got with the Rockets REALLY shows how much he'd dominate the NBA. He told Van Gundy "I was McGrady back home." Van Gundy told him "That's great...well, McGrady is McGrady here." Then they sent him to SA, and the Spurs released him. But yeah..2.7 points per game and a bad attitude..I'm sure teams are lining up to sign him... :lmao:lmao

He never said that it was a lie.

Spanoulis would be one of the best point guards in the NBA right now. He is by far and away the top talent in Europe.

[Spursfan092120]

He never said that it was a lie.

Spanoulis would be one of the best point guards in the NBA right now. He is by far and away the top talent in Europe.

LMAO...dude..he was quoted it..it was in the Associated Press...
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/bk/bkn/4490534.html


"I work to get better," he said. "But how do I get better if I do not play? I know I can play. I know what I can do. I can make great things here."
Van Gundy nods his head.
"(Spanoulis) says, 'I was McGrady back home.' Great. McGrady is McGrady here," Van Gundy said.

Are you saying Spanoulis could hang with Parker, Chris Paul, Deron Williams, etc.? Every starting PG in the league would completely own Spanoulis. That's why the Spurs, even though they lost Scola and Butler to pick him up, STILL cut his ass...

[Bukefal]

lol Balkans players don't even care about NBA. You must obviously have them confused with some others. And this has nothing to do with media in Greece. Spanoulis agent gets offers from NBA all the time.

He is happy with PAO though. If he wants to come to NBA after next year he will be able to pick his team.

They don't???? That's is their biggest dream and probably their one and only goal they have to achieve in life!!!! how can you say that, they dont care.

[Spursfan092120]

They don't???? That's is their biggest dream and probably their one and only goal they have to achieve in life!!!! how can you say that, they dont care.
Told you..this guy knows nothing. I think the other people are right..he's not Greek..he's probably a Rockets fan in Houston.

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

LMAO...dude..he was quoted it..it was in the Associated Press...
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/bk/bkn/4490534.html


"I work to get better," he said. "But how do I get better if I do not play? I know I can play. I know what I can do. I can make great things here."
Van Gundy nods his head.
"(Spanoulis) says, 'I was McGrady back home.' Great. McGrady is McGrady here," Van Gundy said.

Are you saying Spanoulis could hang with Parker, Chris Paul, Deron Williams, etc.? Every starting PG in the league would completely own Spanoulis. That's why the Spurs, even though they lost Scola and Butler to pick him up, STILL cut his ass...

Jeff Van Gundy said it. You notice Spanoulis did not say is. JVG is one that made it up. This is very well known thing.

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

They don't???? That's is their biggest dream and probably their one and only goal they have to achieve in life!!!! how can you say that, they dont care.

Players from Balkans do not care about NBA that much compared to players from other parts of Europe.

[Spursfan092120]

Jeff Van Gundy said it. You notice Spanoulis did not say is. JVG is one that made it up. This is very well known thing.
God...you just cannot accept reality..I can show you a hundred more links where he said it. Get over it. 2.7 ppg and .8 apg is NOT one of the best PGs in the league. He's not even average.

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

Are you saying Spanoulis could hang with Parker, Chris Paul, Deron Williams, etc.? Every starting PG in the league would completely own Spanoulis. That's why the Spurs, even though they lost Scola and Butler to pick him up, STILL cut his ass...

For Spurs fan you don't even know about your own team. He was asked to stay by Popovich and Parker and they did not want to let him from his contract so Panathinaikos had to pay 1 million euros to Spurs to do so.

Parker even had dinner with him to convince him to stay from Popovich. And of point guards you list maybe they are better than him but no others in NBA. He is for sure better than any other point guard in the NBA. And really Parker and Williams are no better than him.

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

Told you..this guy knows nothing. I think the other people are right..he's not Greek..he's probably a Rockets fan in Houston.

Everyone in Europe knows Balkans players do not care about NBA much.

[Bukefal]

Well, maybe a bit true, since balkan countries +italy and Spain have some pretty strong leagues compared to other nations, but i still think the NBA is their biggest dream, And thats completely normal, since its the best league in the world.

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

God...you just cannot accept reality..I can show you a hundred more links where he said it. Get over it. 2.7 ppg and .8 apg is NOT one of the best PGs in the league. He's not even average.

He never said it. In the link you provided JVG said it. Are you really this uneducated? Spanoulis did not say it. Van Gundy said it. Learn to read.

And Joe Dumars said Spanoulis is one of the top 5 point guards in the world. But of course you know better than him.

[Spursfan092120]

For Spurs fan you don't even know about your own team. He was asked to stay by Popovich and Parker and they did not want to let him from his contract so Panathinaikos had to pay 1 million euros to Spurs to do so.

Parker even had dinner with him to convince him to stay from Popovich. And of point guards you list maybe they are better than him but no others in NBA. He is for sure better than any other point guard in the NBA. And really Parker and Williams are no better than him.

WHAT?!?! Are you freaking psycho?? Wow...No way in hell a normal minded human being would say something like that.

[Spursfan092120]

Just so everyone knows....KBP actually just said Vassilis Spanoulis is just as good as Tony Parker and Deron Williams....wow..

[Bukefal]

hahah, well dont get too excited now my greek friend :P

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

WHAT?!?! Are you freaking psycho?? Wow...No way in hell a normal minded human being would say something like that.

I think Chris Paul is better than him. Williams is comparable. Parker and him is pretty close also. Maybe only other point guard in NBA better than him is Nash.

If I give you all of those this is ok to say. Although as I say he is in same class really as Williams and Parker.

But he is much better than any other NBA point guard. Even I maybe thought some others like Davis is comparable but he is not as good as Spanoulis really. Arenas is not really a point guard so I don't think you can count him.

Some NBA point guards that is considered to be good like Rose and Devin Harris and players in that level are not close to as good as Spanoulis.

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

Just so everyone knows....KBP actually just said Vassilis Spanoulis is just as good as Tony Parker and Deron Williams....wow..

Spanoulis and Parker are both from Europe and both same generation players. This means for Europe players born within same year or two years.

In 16 and under age in their generation #1 point guard in Europe was Spanoulis. #2 was Parker and #3 was Udrih, #4 Zisis.

In 18 and under age #1 was Parker, #2 Spanoulis, #3 Zisis and #4 Udrih

In 20 and under it was #1 Zisis, #2 Spanoulis, #3 Parker, #4 Udrih

And since the senior days they have played each other several times. Once Parker owned Spanoulis and several times it was Spanoulis who owned Parker. Parker has said more then once that Spanoulis would be one of the very best in NBA.

[Spursfan092120]

Spanoulis and Parker are both from Europe and both same generation players. This means for Europe players born within same year or two years.

In 16 and under age in their generation #1 point guard in Europe was Spanoulis. #2 was Parker and #3 was Udrih, #4 Zisis.

In 18 and under age #1 was Parker, #2 Spanoulis, #3 Zisis and #4 Udrih

In 20 and under it was #1 Zisis, #2 Spanoulis, #3 Parker, #4 Udrih

And since the senior days they have played each other several times. Once Parker owned Spanoulis and several times it was Spanoulis who owned Parker. Parker has said more then once that Spanoulis would be one of the very best in NBA.
Show me these stats and quotes that you seem to keep fabricating. I can make up stats too..it'd be very easy. Bottom line is, when Spanoulis played in the NBA with Houston, he averaged 2.7 points and .8 assists a game. He ended up getting benched and getting no playing time, while Parker, for the second time, is an All Star, and leading a team to a run in the playoffs. Meanwhile in Utah, Deron Williams continues to shine. By the way, you just made me change my signature...congratulations.

[spursnatic]

FUCK SPANNOULIS!!!!......Why do you always start threads about these fucking sorry greek players?...No one gives a Fuck about them!!!! Why don't you start a thread about Greek porn or something?....:lobt::lobt::lobt::lobt::lobt2::flag :

[Spursfan092120]

I think Chris Paul is better than him. Williams is comparable. Parker and him is pretty close also. Maybe only other point guard in NBA better than him is Nash.

If I give you all of those this is ok to say. Although as I say he is in same class really as Williams and Parker.

But he is much better than any other NBA point guard. Even I maybe thought some others like Davis is comparable but he is not as good as Spanoulis really. Arenas is not really a point guard so I don't think you can count him.

Some NBA point guards that is considered to be good like Rose and Devin Harris and players in that level are not close to as good as Spanoulis.
The bold was all I needed to read to realize that this statement is ignorant.

Point guards, just off the top of my head that would own Spanoulis...
Chris Paul (http://www.yardbarker.com/content/player/4656), Baron Davis (http://www.yardbarker.com/content/player/4429), Deron Williams (http://www.yardbarker.com/content/player/4789), Tony Parker, (http://www.yardbarker.com/content/player/4654)Steve Nash, (http://www.yardbarker.com/content/player/4630)Gilbert Arenas, (http://www.yardbarker.com/content/player/4336)Chauncey Billups, (http://www.yardbarker.com/content/player/4366)Jason Kidd (http://www.yardbarker.com/content/player/4570), Andre Miller, (http://www.yardbarker.com/content/player/4615)Mo Williams, Jamal Crawford (http://www.yardbarker.com/content/player/4420), Raymond Felton, (http://www.yardbarker.com/content/player/4458)Jamaal Tinsley (http://www.yardbarker.com/content/player/4746), Jose Calderon (http://www.yardbarker.com/content/player/4402), Rafer Alston, (http://www.yardbarker.com/content/player/4329)Rajon Rondo (http://www.yardbarker.com/content/player/4696), Devin Harris (http://www.yardbarker.com/content/player/4505), T.J. Ford, Beno Udrih Derek Fisher (http://www.yardbarker.com/content/player/4460), Mike Bibby (http://www.yardbarker.com/content/player/4364), Jameer Nelson, (http://www.yardbarker.com/content/player/4631)Sam Cassell (http://www.yardbarker.com/content/player/4409), Nate Robinson, (http://www.yardbarker.com/content/player/33529)Louis Williams, (http://www.yardbarker.com/content/player/4786)Daniel Gibson (http://www.yardbarker.com/content/player/4480), Delonte West (http://www.yardbarker.com/content/player/4773), Kyle Lowry, (http://www.yardbarker.com/content/player/4584) Ramon Sessions (http://www.yardbarker.com/content/player/22818)

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

Show me these stats and quotes that you seem to keep fabricating. I can make up stats too..it'd be very easy. Bottom line is, when Spanoulis played in the NBA with Houston, he averaged 2.7 points and .8 assists a game. He ended up getting benched and getting no playing time, while Parker, for the second time, is an All Star, and leading a team to a run in the playoffs. Meanwhile in Utah, Deron Williams continues to shine. By the way, you just made me change my signature...congratulations.

No. He was benched because his coach and him got in dispute.

I will give you Parker because this is Spurs forum and what he has done in NBA but other than Parker, Paul, Williams, Nash, Arenas (if you consider him a actual point guard) there is no point guard in NBA can compare to Spanoulis.

Davis maybe before but he not same player now. Players like Harris, Calderon, Rose are definitely not in same class as Spanoulis. And defense Spanoulis plays is far better than any point guard in NBA plays.

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

The bold was all I needed to read to realize that this statement is ignorant.

Point guards, just off the top of my head that would own Spanoulis...
Chris Paul (http://www.yardbarker.com/content/player/4656), Baron Davis (http://www.yardbarker.com/content/player/4429), Deron Williams (http://www.yardbarker.com/content/player/4789), Tony Parker, (http://www.yardbarker.com/content/player/4654)Steve Nash, (http://www.yardbarker.com/content/player/4630)Gilbert Arenas, (http://www.yardbarker.com/content/player/4336)Chauncey Billups, (http://www.yardbarker.com/content/player/4366)Jason Kidd (http://www.yardbarker.com/content/player/4570), Andre Miller, (http://www.yardbarker.com/content/player/4615)Mo Williams, Jamal Crawford (http://www.yardbarker.com/content/player/4420), Raymond Felton, (http://www.yardbarker.com/content/player/4458)Jamaal Tinsley (http://www.yardbarker.com/content/player/4746), Jose Calderon (http://www.yardbarker.com/content/player/4402), Rafer Alston, (http://www.yardbarker.com/content/player/4329)Rajon Rondo (http://www.yardbarker.com/content/player/4696), Devin Harris (http://www.yardbarker.com/content/player/4505), T.J. Ford, Beno Udrih Derek Fisher (http://www.yardbarker.com/content/player/4460), Mike Bibby (http://www.yardbarker.com/content/player/4364), Jameer Nelson, (http://www.yardbarker.com/content/player/4631)Sam Cassell (http://www.yardbarker.com/content/player/4409), Nate Robinson, (http://www.yardbarker.com/content/player/33529)Louis Williams, (http://www.yardbarker.com/content/player/4786)Daniel Gibson (http://www.yardbarker.com/content/player/4480), Delonte West (http://www.yardbarker.com/content/player/4773), Kyle Lowry, (http://www.yardbarker.com/content/player/4584) Ramon Sessions (http://www.yardbarker.com/content/player/22818)

:rollin:lol:downspin::blah
lmfao this is ridiculous. Some of these players you list are not fit to shine shoes of Spanoulis.

You know at Olympics in TV it was Doug Collins that says how great Spanoulis is at understand how to make passes on time and in position and how great he is at pick and roll and then he say that coaches of Team USA say he is best player that Team USA faces in whole Olympics. Of course you know better than all of them.

[Spursfan092120]

:rollin:lol:downspin::blah
lmfao this is ridiculous. Some of these players you list are not fit to shine shoes Spanoulis.
Name one, and we'll compare Spanoulis' stats to him..we'll see who's fit to shine whose shoes.

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

Name one, and we'll compare Spanoulis' stats to him..we'll see who's fit to shine whose shoes.

You are just pathetic. Spanoulis is like 20 times better than Calderon and I am completely serious.

[Spursfan092120]

:rollin:lol:downspin::blah
lmfao this is ridiculous. Some of these players you list are not fit to shine shoes of Spanoulis.

You know at Olympics in TV it was Doug Collins that says how great Spanoulis is and then say that coaches of Team USA say he is best player that Team USA faces in whole Olympics. Of course you know better than all of them.
You are an absolute idiot. You have GOT to quit making shit up. I watched every damn US game. Collins never said that. Not even close. Manu Ginobili, Dirk Nowitzki, Chris Kaman, Rudy Fernandez, Luis Scola, Andres Nocioni, Carlos Delfino, Pao Gasol, Yao Ming..I could go on and on..all are MUCH better players than Spanoulis. Please...stop..you're making yourself look like an idiot. Actually, you know what? Don't stop...we're all rather enjoying it.

[Spursfan092120]

You are just pathetic. Spanoulis is like 20 times better than Calderon and I am completely serious.
Calderon averages 13 points and 9 assists per game in the NBA...Spanoulis? Once again...2.7 points and .8 assists. Next?

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

You are an absolute idiot. You have GOT to quit making shit up. I watched every damn US game. Collins never said that. Not even close. Manu Ginobili, Dirk Nowitzki, Chris Kaman, Rudy Fernandez, Luis Scola, Andres Nocioni, Carlos Delfino, Pao Gasol, Yao Ming..I could go on and on..all are MUCH better players than Spanoulis. Please...stop..you're making yourself look like an idiot. Actually, you know what? Don't stop...we're all rather enjoying it.

This is so funny it really is. I hope this is a joke.

Craziest one of all is Fernandez? This is unreal. Spanoulis has owned him just about every single time they have ever played each other. In fact to tell truth Spanoulis has owned Gasol just about every time Greece plays Spain.

Kaman, Delfino, Nocioni, Fernandez? Bunch of jokes compared to Spanoulis. Spanoulis is an elite, ELITE play maker. Do you not understand this?

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

Calderon averages 13 points and 9 assists per game in the NBA...Spanoulis? Once again...2.7 points and .8 assists. Next?

Calderon is a better 3 point shooter and free throw shooter than Spanoulis.

In every other part of game Spanoulis is better and not by a little bit but by a tremendous amount. Calderon is not even worthy of being put in the same discussion with Spanoulis.

Calderon is a piece of crap compared to the 18 year old kid Rubio. I can see you have a very extreme limit in your basketball knowledge. You remind me of most Rockets fans. Your lack of basketball knowledge is not disturbing it is actually amusing because it is beyond bad.

[Spursfan092120]

Calderon is a better 3 point shooter and free throw shooter than Spanoulis.

In every other part of game Spanoulis is better and not by a little bit but by a tremendous amount. Calderon is not even worthy of being put in the same discussion with Spanoulis.

Calderon is a piece of crap compared to the 18 year old kid Rubio. I can see you have a very extreme limit in your basketball knowledge. You remind me of most Rockets fans. Your lack of basketball knowledge is not disturbing it is actually amusing because it is beyond bad.
What the shit are you talking about? I'm not talking about Rubio. I agree Rubio has the ability to be better than Calderon. Whether he will, we'll find out. You can't just say because the guy is talented that he'll be great in the NBA. It just doesn't work that way. Ask Sam Bowie. Injuries happen. Sometimes your game doesn't transfer. And about my knowledge...I've told you my credentials before...I have no need to tell you again. I just dropped more NBA knowledge in the toilet with my supper than you'll ever have. And about Calderon...last time I checked, Calderon was starting with an NBA team while Spanoulis couldn't hack it on two teams. I would say, as of right now, Calderon is a hell of a lot better, and until you have stats to prove otherwise, consider yourself wrong.

[Spursfan092120]

This is so funny it really is. I hope this is a joke.

Craziest one of all is Fernandez? This is unreal. Spanoulis has owned him just about every single time they have ever played each other. In fact to tell truth Spanoulis has owned Gasol just about every time Greece plays Spain.

Kaman, Delfino, Nocioni, Fernandez? Bunch of jokes compared to Spanoulis. Spanoulis is an elite, ELITE play maker. Do you not understand this?
All NBA players...all are on NBA teams, and have good stats as NBA players, while Spanoulis couldn't make it...yeah..yeah, I'd say they're better.

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

if you think Floperon is better than Spanoulis it is very simple you have never see either of them play ever.

[urunobili]

Wfc

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

What's really funny is that a lot of people here might have actually liked Spanoulis if it wasn't for KBP's mindless drivel. He's made everyone irrationally despise the poor lad, underrate him and insult him.

In fact Spanoulis is neither as good as KBP says, nor as bad as a lot of people here think, he just had a tough year in Houston and is a bit slow and unathletic, which is why he's better in Europe than in the NBA, much like Oberto.

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

What's really funny is that a lot of people here might have actually liked Spanoulis if it wasn't for KBP's mindless drivel. He's made everyone irrationally despise the poor lad, underrate him and insult him.

In fact Spanoulis is neither as good as KBP says, nor as bad as a lot of people here think, he just had a tough year in Houston and is a bit slow and unathletic, which is why he's better in Europe than in the NBA, much like Oberto.

Spanoulis is not slow or unathletic. He is actually quite fast and athletic. And this is proven how he blows past any defender and finishes at the rim whenever he plays against Team USA.

[mathbzh]

This is so funny it really is. I hope this is a joke.

Craziest one of all is Fernandez? This is unreal. Spanoulis has owned him just about every single time they have ever played each other. In fact to tell truth Spanoulis has owned Gasol just about every time Greece plays Spain.


First, I would like you to explain me how a guard can own Gasol.
Then, I checked the last games between Greece and Spain.

2004 Olympics: no game Greece-Spain
2005: Greece is European champion but they didn't play against Spain.
2006: World Championship Finals
Spain 70 - 47 Greece
Spanoulis 4 pts (1/10) 2ast

Gasol didn't play, Fernandez barely play... but this is not exactly "ownage".

2007: Euro series
Spain 76 - 58 Greece
Spanoulis 8 pts (3/10) 2ast

Fernandez 20 pts (6/9) 2ast
Gasol 15 pts (5/8) 5 rbds 5ast

Euro semi finals
Spain 82 - 77 Greece
Great game from Spanoulis 24 pts (10/14) / 5ast

Fernandez played only 12 minutes for 2 pts (0/1) 1 ast.
But Gasol had 23 pts (7/11) 6 rbds 1 ast

2008 Olympics:
Spain 81 - 66 Greece
A good game for Spanoulis 15 pts (6/11) 1 ast in 26 minutes

But also for Fernandez 16 pts (5/9) 1 ast in 22 minutes
And not a bad one for Gasol 11 pts (4/8) 7 rebounds in only 20 minutes.


So:
4 games, 4 win for Spain (average: Spain 77 - 62 Greece)
Only one game were he is really better than Fernandez (not Gasol).


But you are right

Spanoulis has owned him (Fernandez) just about every single time they have ever played each other. In fact to tell truth Spanoulis has owned Gasol just about every time Greece plays Spain.



Edit:

And I think Spanoulis is really good.

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

First, I would like you to explain me how a guard can own Gasol.
Then, I checked the last games between Greece and Spain.

2004 Olympics: no game Greece-Spain
2005: Greece is European champion but they didn't play against Spain.
2006: World Championship Finals
Spain 70 - 47 Greece
Spanoulis 4 pts (1/10) 2ast

Gasol didn't play, Fernandez barely play... but this is not exactly "ownage".

2007: Euro series
Spain 76 - 58 Greece
Spanoulis 8 pts (3/10) 2ast

Fernandez 20 pts (6/9) 2ast
Gasol 15 pts (5/8) 5 rbds 5ast

Euro semi finals
Spain 82 - 77 Greece
Great game from Spanoulis 24 pts (10/14) / 5ast

Fernandez played only 12 minutes for 2 pts (0/1) 1 ast.
But Gasol had 23 pts (7/11) 6 rbds 1 ast

2008 Olympics:
Spain 81 - 66 Greece
A good game for Spanoulis 15 pts (6/11) 1 ast in 26 minutes

But also for Fernandez 16 pts (5/9) 1 ast in 22 minutes
And not a bad one for Gasol 11 pts (4/8) 7 rebounds in only 20 minutes.


So:
4 games, 4 win for Spain (average: Spain 77 - 62 Greece)
Only one game were he is really better than Fernandez (not Gasol).


But you are right




Edit:

And I think Spanoulis is really good.

In 2006 finals Spanoulis was awful .The whole Greek team was awful except Papaloukas. I will not argue that. They had just beat USA and went out and got drunk as they drunk all night and never slept and stayed up all night. And with Gasol injury they just played easy.

So I am not talk about that game everyone knows what a failure and stupid thing they did after the beat USA and acted like that was all that mattered. Papaloukas was only player that did not get drunk and party whole night.

But in games since then..........

Spanoulis is by far best player on court when two teams play. And if stats show this or not doesn't even matter to me. The only guard Spain has that has even been close to Spanoulis when they play in last 2 years was Rubio. He was able to at least make it harder for Spanoulis to drive the ball. Of course when Rubio had the ball Spanoulis really played very good D on him. Still Spanoulis was outplaying Rubio very clearly, but for a 17 kid Rubio was impressive.

Spanoulis in each game in last 2 years honeslty made Navarro, Rudy, and Calderon look like jokes. Like scrubs. You should know that in the last game in Olympics you could hear Spain announcers praying "please God do not let Spanoulis get the ball. Every time he touches the ball he kills us he is one of best 4 or 5 guards in the whole world"

Never did they say anything like that when they play against Team USA. I do not think fans understand what Spanoulis can do. There is a few maybe in Greece but then it is only the ones that saw him in junior national team or when he was at Maroussi. Other Greeks don't know shit about him either. PAO fans do not have slight clue about what he can do.

I was able to see him play in person when he was in Maroussi and let me assure you he is in the very most elite of one on one players in the world. And his point guard skills is in the very highest you will ever see anywhere.

He is so much better than players like Rudy Fernandez and Jose Calderon that it is just ridiculous really how people say someone like that is better than him.

[Spursmania]

When do we sign him?:p:

[Keepin' it real]

Va who-who Spa what-what?

[Spursfan092120]

When do we sign him?:p:
lol..we already did. He made it a whole month here.

[Indazone]

I doubt if Vspan's feet actually made it to San Antonio. He had his Houston apt packed left so fast it would make one's head spin.

[mathbzh]

In 2006 finals Spanoulis was awful .

So in a 4 game data sample you just discard the one that bother you.


Spanoulis is by far best player on court when two teams play. And if stats show this or not doesn't even matter to me. ...
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Spanoulis in each game in last 2 years honeslty made Navarro, Rudy, and Calderon look like jokes. Like scrubs.

You know, my problem is not that you consider Spanoulis better than those players (in a FIBA game that may be true). My problem is that you just come and say something definitive as "Spanoulis owns them".
In 4 blowouts it is not easy to believe he owned someone.


in Olympics you could hear Spain announcers praying
"please God do not let Spanoulis get the ball. Every time he touches the ball he kills us he is one of best 4 or 5 guards in the whole world"

I don't know if it is true... but seriously I would not base my opinion on what annoucers say. They love to be dramatic... "we are up by 16 to start the 4th... but be carefull... Spanoulis is killing us... he is one of best 4 or 5 guards in the whole world

[mountainballer]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/2a/IIM.jpg
Spanoulis would be one of the best point guards in the NBA right now. He is by far and away the top talent in Europe.

quote with picture on!

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

So in a 4 game data sample you just discard the one that bother you.



You know, my problem is not that you consider Spanoulis better than those players (in a FIBA game that may be true). My problem is that you just come and say something definitive as "Spanoulis owns them".
In 4 blowouts it is not easy to believe he owned someone.



I don't know if it is true... but seriously I would not base my opinion on what annoucers say. They love to be dramatic... "we are up by 16 to start the 4th... but be carefull... Spanoulis is killing us... he is one of best 4 or 5 guards in the whole world

Coach Obradovic is one of best coaches in the world. Popovich has asked him how can he get better as a coach and for help and advice.

He is one of the best coaches that has ever lived. He has coached players like Dimitris Diamantidis, Dejan Bodiroga, Peja Danilovic, Vlade Divac, Arvydas Sabonis, Alberto Herreras, Zoran Savic, Sasha Dordevic, Zeljko Rebraca, Fragiksos Alvertis, Zarko Paspalj, Ferran Martinez, Jordi Villacampa, Denis Marconato, Jaka Lakovic, Saras Jasikevicius, Darryl Middleton, Johnny Rogers, Antonis Fotsis, Lazo Papadopoulos, Ibrahim Kutluay, Mike Batiste, Nikola Pekovic, Nikos Hatzivrettas, Damir Mulamerovic, Dejan Tomasevic, Sani Becirovic, Dimos Dikoudis, Ramunas Siskauskas, Milos Vujanic, Drew Nicholas

All these players at one time or another considered among the best Euroleague players. And Obradovic said that Spanoulis is the most talented player he has ever coached. Some of those players he has coached is in the list of best European players that ever lived.

[mogrovejo]

In another message board (euro basketball oriented), more than half of KBP posts are Spanoulis hagiographies. It's absolutely amazing. Spanoulis problem is that he's too selfish and he wasn't able to translate his game to the NBA: in Europe he can get everywhere he wants in the floor due to his superior athleticism and ballhandling, in the NBA he was just another guy in terms of quickness and unable to shoot.

Anyway, where's the Splitter thread? I have bad news for Spurs fans: the local council of Vitoria decided to give a $8 millions bailout to Splitter's club. That will make up for the financial struggles of their main sponsor.

[Indazone]

Don't see Splitter coming over anytime soon.

[superbigtime]

News flash: No one gives a shit about obscure, marginal Greek players who aren't in the league and don't wish to be. Piss off.

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

In another message board (euro basketball oriented), more than half of KBP posts are Spanoulis hagiographies. It's absolutely amazing. Spanoulis problem is that he's too selfish and he wasn't able to translate his game to the NBA: in Europe he can get everywhere he wants in the floor due to his superior athleticism and ballhandling, in the NBA he was just another guy in terms of quickness and unable to shoot.




Spanoulis is not perfect he has some issues as a player like all players in history well maybe prime Jordan was perfect but other than him. Anyway, Spanoulis is much better than most NBA point guards. It really does not matter if NBA fans and their arrogance cannot figure it out.

You know in Panathinaikos fans they call Spanoulis "Mistake Machine" and he is probably one of the most hated players even in PAO. It is because of his skills and his ability.

If there is a player in the world as hated as Kobe it is Spanoulis. Some even call him "Euro Kobe". There are some that recognize such talent for what it is then some who insanely hate such players and only call them "selfish" "ball hogs" and things like this. It is just difference between stupid fans and smart ones. Just like stupid coaches like Van Gundy who can only use robots or smart coaches like Jackson who understand how to control such players.

[ambchang]

The most amusing thing is that KBP's English gets better when he responds quickly.

[Spursfan092120]

Coach Obradovic is one of best coaches in the world. Popovich has asked him how can he get better as a coach and for help and advice.

He is one of the best coaches that has ever lived. He has coached players like Dimitris Diamantidis, Dejan Bodiroga, Peja Danilovic, Vlade Divac, Arvydas Sabonis, Alberto Herreras, Zoran Savic, Sasha Dordevic, Zeljko Rebraca, Fragiksos Alvertis, Zarko Paspalj, Ferran Martinez, Jordi Villacampa, Denis Marconato, Jaka Lakovic, Saras Jasikevicius, Darryl Middleton, Johnny Rogers, Antonis Fotsis, Lazo Papadopoulos, Ibrahim Kutluay, Mike Batiste, Nikola Pekovic, Nikos Hatzivrettas, Damir Mulamerovic, Dejan Tomasevic, Sani Becirovic, Dimos Dikoudis, Ramunas Siskauskas, Milos Vujanic, Drew Nicholas

All these players at one time or another considered among the best Euroleague players. And Obradovic said that Spanoulis is the most talented player he has ever coached. Some of those players he has coached is in the list of best European players that ever lived.
There you go again with your bullshit. Please, if you're going to say someone did something or said something, PLEASE post proof. Don't just come on here and say things like "Tony Parker and Doug Collins said Spanoulis is one of the best PGs in the world." And "Pop asked Obradovich advice on coaching." You're a complete idiot. You have officially become a

http://eatourbrains.com/EoB/wp-content/uploads/2007/05/troll.jpg

[Spursfan092120]

Spanoulis is not perfect he has some issues as a player like all players in history well maybe prime Jordan was perfect but other than him. Anyway, Spanoulis is much better than most NBA point guards. It really does not matter if NBA fans and their arrogance cannot figure it out.

You know in Panathinaikos fans they call Spanoulis "Mistake Machine" and he is probably one of the most hated players even in PAO. It is because of his skills and his ability.

If there is a player in the world as hated as Kobe it is Spanoulis. Some even call him "Euro Kobe". There are some that recognize such talent for what it is then some who insanely hate such players and only call them "selfish" "ball hogs" and things like this. It is just difference between stupid fans and smart ones. Just like stupid coaches like Van Gundy who can only use robots or smart coaches like Jackson who understand how to control such players.
:lmao:lmao:lmao Jose Calderon would own his ass. After all, he's McGrady in Europe..just ask him... :lmao:lmao:lmao

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

There you go again with your bullshit. Please, if you're going to say someone did something or said something, PLEASE post proof. Don't just come on here and say things like "Tony Parker and Doug Collins said Spanoulis is one of the best PGs in the world." And "Pop asked Obradovich advice on coaching." You're a complete idiot. You have officially become a

http://eatourbrains.com/EoB/wp-content/uploads/2007/05/troll.jpg

You are wrong in everything you post. Popovich calls Obradovic and asks him for advice on more then one occasion. You seem to not even be aware of things about your own team that you claim to be fan of.

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

:lmao:lmao:lmao Jose Calderon would own his ass. After all, he's McGrady in Europe..just ask him... :lmao:lmao:lmao

Jose Calderon is not very good. You have an obvious lack of understanding of game of basketball. Your knowledge = whatever stats you look up. You are probably 15 years old and cannot even grab rim.

[Spursfan092120]

Jose Calderon is not very good. You have an obvious lack of understanding of game of basketball. Your knowledge = whatever stats you look up. You are probably 15 years old and cannot even grab rim.
Wow...just as I expected, you don't pay attention to jack, unless it's something you want to hear. I've told you before, I'm 29 years old, married, and hosted a sports talk radio show. As I've said, I drop more knowledge in the toilet than you'll ever know. It's shit like this that makes people bash you. You put out these boohoo threads about wanting people to like you, and then you say things like this. Calderon is a better NBA player than Spanoulis...period.

[Spursfan092120]

You are wrong in everything you post. Popovich calls Obradovic and asks him for advice on more then one occasion. You seem to not even be aware of things about your own team that you claim to be fan of.
Where the hell do you get this? Please show me a link or something that proves this..unless you're in on the meetings or phone calls, you know absolutely nothing.

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

Where the hell do you get this? Please show me a link or something that proves this..unless you're in on the meetings or phone calls, you know absolutely nothing.

You are not worth any discussion really. You probably do not even know who Obradovic is. Basically among coaches everywhere considered one of the best coach in the world. But you are "radio sports guy" of course you know better. Popovich is a great coach and he is always trying to make Spurs better and this includes asking Obradovic about some of his tactics.

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

Wow...just as I expected, you don't pay attention to jack, unless it's something you want to hear. I've told you before, I'm 29 years old, married, and hosted a sports talk radio show. As I've said, I drop more knowledge in the toilet than you'll ever know. It's shit like this that makes people bash you. You put out these boohoo threads about wanting people to like you, and then you say things like this. Calderon is a better NBA player than Spanoulis...period.

Of course it make sense now. Radio sports guy now it make sense.

[Spursfan092120]

You are not worth any discussion really. You probably do not even know who Obradovic is. Basically among coaches everywhere considered one of the best coach in the world. But you are "radio sports guy" of course you know better. Popovich is a great coach and he is always trying to make Spurs better and this includes asking Obradovic about some of his tactics.
I just think it's absolutely hilarious that you just say things so matter of factly, but you have no proof. You have nothing. There's no link, no story, no nothing. I do know who Obradovic is..and yes..he's a great coach over there..but that's a different style of basketball all together...not saying he couldn't coach here, but it's a different game. If we all believed you, Spanoulis would be the NBA MVP and Bourousis would be starting over Tim Duncan for the Spurs. Oh wait no..I forgot..the Rockets are signing him..he'll be starting over Yao.

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

I just think it's absolutely hilarious that you just say things so matter of factly, but you have no proof. You have nothing. There's no link, no story, no nothing. I do know who Obradovic is..and yes..he's a great coach over there..but that's a different style of basketball all together...not saying he couldn't coach here, but it's a different game. If we all believed you, Spanoulis would be the NBA MVP and Bourousis would be starting over Tim Duncan for the Spurs. Oh wait no..I forgot..the Rockets are signing him..he'll be starting over Yao.

You are just an arrogant jerk. it is OK though I forgive you. After all it is your right to be so angry with the world for you being born with a face made for radio.

[Spursfan092120]

You are just an arrogant jerk. it is OK though I forgive you. After all it is your right to be so angry with the world for you being born with a face made for radio.
Yeah..ugly as sin. Got a hot wife though, so I'm ok with it. Arrogant jerk? No..that would be you, douche. "Spanoulis would be one of the best in the league." "Bourousis would be Spurs Savior." Come on man..you think because someone plays for a Greek team they're the best players in the league..wake up man.

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

Euroleague spotlight on MVP of Panathinaikos versus Montepaschi Siena Euroleague playoff series.

Vassilis Spanoulis

http://euroleague2008.infrontams.biz/pubb/popup.php?id=2907

[ChumpDumper]

He sucks.

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

In The Game has new NBA scouting video on Spanoulis.

Here is the scout comments

"potential difference maker, can make baskets out of nothing, has shown much improved passing ability throughout the 08/09 season"

Here is the In The Game scouting video (it is from Euroleague playoffs between PAO and Montepaschi Siena)

Remember Spanoulis still wants to play in NBA after he leave PAO and Spurs has first option to sign him.

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[mavs>spurs2]

KBP, the playoffs are right around the corner. If we didn't care about Vaginis Spurmoulis before, what makes you think we give a shit now?

[sonic21]

jack vaughn > spanoulis

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

jack vaughn > spanoulis

:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao :lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

KBP, the playoffs are right around the corner. If we didn't care about Vaginis Spurmoulis before, what makes you think we give a shit now?

I did not post this here. It is Spurs related. They move it to this forum to make me look bad.

[mavs>spurs2]

Call me crazy, and I know I trash every V-Span thread, but I'd love to see him on the Mavericks in JJ Barrea's Role. Starting 2/backup pg

[sonic21]

:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao :lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao

it's well known he was afraid to come to the spurs because he was not sure to play with the parker/vaughn combo. :tu

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

it's well known he was afraid to come to the spurs because he was not sure to play with the parker/vaughn combo. :tu

No it is not dumbass. Parker and Popovich requested he stay and Parker had dinner with him in France to discuss it. This has already been posted many times in Spurs forum. Problem was his mother was very sick and he had to stay in Greece.

[Indazone]

He is known in Pana circles as Mistake Machine? Is this the same as JVG's turnover machine?

[Bukefal]

No it is not dumbass. Parker and Popovich requested he stay and Parker had dinner with him in France to discuss it. This has already been posted many times in Spurs forum. Problem was his mother was very sick and he had to stay in Greece.

How do you know that? I dont know much about this spanoulis situation, but i do know you should not believe the Greek media so much, as we also should not believe any other press in the Balkans. Balkan media is garbage.

[Spursfan092120]

I did not post this here. It is Spurs related. They move it to this forum to make me look bad.
Spanoulis is not a Spur, therefore it is not Spur related. It is about a Euro League player, and Euro League talk belongs in the NBA Forum..oh, and they don't need to make you look bad...you do a good enough job of that yourself.

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

He is known in Pana circles as Mistake Machine? Is this the same as JVG's turnover machine?

Yes. They make fun of him because JVG called him this and Sam Fisher say it like a million times in Rockets board. In Greek way of look at it, turnover would be "mistake" so "turnover machine" would be "mistake machine" so they make fun of him a lot with this.

They also many of them call him "V-Splinter" another one. This is because Rockets fans give him nickname "V-Span" so to make fun of him and insult him they came up with "V-Splinter" because they say "JVG game him a splinter by benching his ass"