An uncomfortable quandary

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

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[spursfan09]

Men are gross...
(a) should I just become a nun
(b) should I just start dating girls?
Because clearly men are stupid and I don't think I ever want to get married after reading that.

Oh and I hope his wife reads this

[FromWayDowntown]

If you come out and ask him for the numbers and names, he loses any plausible denability about whether you might know of such information.

I say sneak a peak at the Blackberry!!

And then PM me what you find

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

And Chopper gets the golf clap.

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

Although I must admit, I did look for the Fresh Prince ending first.

[DarkReign]

Men are gross...
(a) should I just become a nun
(b) should I just start dating girls?
Because clearly men are stupid and I don't think I ever want to get married after reading that.

Oh and I hope his wife reads this

(c) grow up
(d) put out on a regular basis to your husband and you wont have this problem.

[SpursWoman]

Although I must admit, I did look for the Fresh Prince ending first.


me, too. :lmao

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

me, too. :lmao

Unlike the Fresh Prince threads, however, this conversation actually happened the other day, and I really was blown away.

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

You think you know someone and then you find out they've been having an eight-year party and never invited you to it even once! :madrun

[Dex]

Sounds like you better usurp some bank account numbers from that Blackberry while you're at it. :lol

In all seriousness though, it doesn't matter what they call themselves and how much money they command...he's still banging prostitutes and hiding it from his wife. I can't think of one counselor who would consider this healthy behavior for a relationship.

If the wife was hip to it and, for whatever reason, didn't mind...it would be a different story, at which point I really wouldn't know what he should tell his children about 'typical relationships'

As the case stands, it sounds like this guy has just done an incredible job of justifying things to himself.

He may be a great person, but good people still make mistakes. And if there is something going on in a relationship that one person is completely unaware of, and would completely damn the relationship...I'm pretty sure most people would call that a red flag.

[CubanMustGo]

I wanna know how he can say with a straight face that his wife is his "best friend" when he pulls crap like that.

Sounds like he needs to join that offshoot of the Mormon Church that still encourages polygamy and encourages husbands to treat wives like shit.

[Barbarian]

This reminds me of a line from a movie or comedy show.
"there are only two things in life that are free.... water and pussy"
Anybody know where it's from?

oh. and to answer your question. I would ask your friend. and if he doesn't tell you, then threaten to tell his wife.

[spursfan09]

(c) grow up
(d) put out on a regular basis to your husband and you wont have this problem.

(c) What does growing up have anything to do with this?
(d) So if I got sick and couldn't do anything I'm suppose to say "its okay honey I can't give you any right now, but go ahead and get it from somewhere else?"

[SpursWoman]

I call bullshit on all of that. Unless she's decided she's a lesbian or does, in fact, know about what he's been doing and it's turned her off of him, it's just an excuse for him to justify being just another lying, bastard cheater.

So ... sneak a peak at his blackberry. Don't let anyone have ANY information about you that could come back and bite you in the ass in divorce court. :)

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

Sounds like you better usurp some bank account numbers from that Blackberry while you're at it. :lol

In all seriousness though, it doesn't matter what they call themselves and how much money they command...he's still banging prostitutes and hiding it from his wife. I can't think of one counselor who would consider this healthy behavior for a relationship.

If the wife was hip to it and, for whatever reason, didn't mind...it would be a different story, at which point I really wouldn't know what he should tell his children about 'typical relationships'

As the case stands, it sounds like this guy has just done an incredible job of justifying things to himself.

He may be a great person, but good people still make mistakes. And if there is something going on in a relationship that one person is completely unaware of, and would completely damn the relationship...I'm pretty sure most people would call that a red flag.

Those were my thoughts at the time, too, basically. I don't really have any good advice for him because I got the impression he's tried to walk away from it before without success.

Just a strange situation all the way around.

[Extra Stout]

Chopper, you're thinking too much about the sex. Clear your head for a second. Your friend has just provided you with the perfect opportunity to blackmail him.

So, of course, get the info from the Blackberry, so you can maintain plausible deniability.

[Slomo]

If you come out and ask him for the numbers and names, he loses any plausible denability about whether you might know of such information.

I say sneak a peak at the Blackberry!!

And then PM me what you find:lol:tu

A little technical advice to the Chopper:

You can, if you decide to do so, simultaneously send PMs to more than one recipient.

Just saying...

[Beno Udrih]

Um wow that guy is my hero. PM me those numbers chopper!

:lol And what a dick for him not inviting you to bang some nice young twenty somethings.

[to21]

That's what happens when Wifes don't give their Husbands some "medicine".

They go crazy.

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

I call bullshit on all of that. Unless she's decided she's a lesbian or does, in fact, know about what he's been doing and it's turned her off of him, it's just an excuse for him to justify being just another lying, bastard cheater.

So ... sneak a peak at his blackberry. Don't let anyone have ANY information about you that could come back and bite you in the ass in divorce court. :)


I don't think he's making it up....he's not the type. And his wife did disclose some things to Mrs. Chopper that makes me think he and his wife really aren't as active sexually as they used to be. He wasn't bragging when he told me...it was more like confession.

I think I need to start turning this thing into a movie script.

[Extra Stout]

I don't think he's making it up....he's not the type. And his wife did disclose some things to Mrs. Chopper that makes me think he and his wife really aren't as active sexually as they used to be. He wasn't bragging when he told me...it was more like confession.

I think I need to start turning this thing into a movie script.
You can use the blackmail money to fund the production.

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

:lol:tu

A little technical advice to the Chopper:

You can, if you decide to do so, simultaneously send PMs to more than one recipient.

Just saying...

:lol Absolutely! I'm praying for warm weather that day. I'll be buying him several beers from the cart girl.

[PakiDan]

Applause for Helicopter!

[MoSpur]

I was looking for the Fresh Prince ending too.

[SpursWoman]

I don't think he's making it up....he's not the type. And his wife did disclose some things to Mrs. Chopper that makes me think he and his wife really aren't as active sexually as they used to be. He wasn't bragging when he told me...it was more like confession.

I think I need to start turning this thing into a movie script.


I didn't mean I thought he was making up fucking around on his wife, just his sorry excuse for doing so. I'd bet money that she knows, or least senses it.

*shrugs*

[Oh, Gee!!]

lolz..........great story.

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

He should have kicked her(wife) to the curb long ago.

You can’t eat your cake and have it too.

[katyon6th]

I bet he has a small penis.

[Extra Stout]

I didn't mean I thought he was making up fucking around on his wife, just his sorry excuse for doing so. I'd bet money that she knows, or least senses it.

*shrugs*
I still think this is a joke he found on the internet.

[SpursWoman]

I bet he has a small penis.


Seriously. :tu :lol

[MaNuMaNiAc]

To all those women talking shit about this guy, let me ask you a question. Say two people are in a happy, healthy relationship. Now let's say that due to some freak accident one of those people is unable to have sex anymore. Should his or her spouse become celibate for the rest of their lives?

If you answered yes to that question you live in a fairytale fucking world, let me tell you. I'm not saying what this dude is doing is necessarily right, and to be honest, it does seem like the dude has gone through a lot of trouble to make himself feel better about what is essentially good old fashioned cheating. Having said that, I can't imagine having to go through a whole year without sex, and then only once every three months. That's NOT healthy. Shit! Its downright painful!

I feel for both them really. The woman has serious psychological problems, and the dude is suffering because of them. Sure his solution is bullshit, but his problem is a very real one.

I'm just curious as to what people here would do in his situation. What would be the right thing to do here IYO?

[marini martini]

To all those women talking shit about this guy, let me ask you a question. Say two people are in a happy, healthy relationship. Now let's say that due to some freak accident one of those people is unable to have sex anymore. Should his or her spouse become celibate for the rest of their lives?

If you answered yes to that question you live in a fairytale fucking world, let me tell you. I'm not saying what this dude is doing is necessarily right, and to be honest, it does seem like the dude has gone through a lot of trouble to make himself feel better about what is essentially good old fashioned cheating. Having said that, I can't imagine having to go through a whole year without sex, and then only once every three months. That's NOT healthy. Shit! Its downright painful!

I feel for both them really. The woman has serious psychological problems, and the dude is suffering because of them. Sure his solution is bullshit, but his problem is a very real one.

I'm just curious as to what people here would do in his situation. What would be the right thing to do here IYO?


IMOHO, seriously, if either of them have experienced the Big "O" with each other, we wouldn't be reading about it :toast

[tlongII]

I don't think he's doing anything wrong. Everybody cheats. Not everybody admits it.


P.S. - PM me the phone numbers when you get them!

[mrsmaalox]

And his wife did disclose some things to Mrs. Chopper that makes me think he and his wife really aren't as active sexually as they used to be.

Maybe she's just not as active sexually with him!

[Melmart1]

I'm just curious as to what people here would do in his situation. What would be the right thing to do here IYO?
While I think this whole thing is a joke of some kind, I will answer your question since it was posed seriously.

Not having sex or not having it frequently enough is a big problem in a marriage. However, if he was really her best friend and cared for her, he would have tried counseling before running off and sticking his nob in a bunch of prostitutes.

His "solution" was no solution at all. A solution implies you tried to work out a problem. He did no such thing, he ran away from his problem instead like a selfish idiot who thinks he was the only one "suffering" from their problem. I would bet cash money the wife is suffering more.

[baseline bum]

Who the fuck cares how you get it? Just do it, and then send me a PM.

[Sunshine]

Although I must admit, I did look for the Fresh Prince ending first.


Me too!

[Sunshine]

I didn't mean I thought he was making up fucking around on his wife, just his sorry excuse for doing so. I'd bet money that she knows, or least senses it.

*shrugs*

I was thinking this too...she may know, and not care because a) he's still taking care of her and the kids and apparently "dotes" on her and b) he's not bugging her to have sex. It may suit her just fine, who knows.




Not having sex or not having it frequently enough is a big problem in a marriage. However, if he was really her best friend and cared for her, he would have tried counseling before running off and sticking his nob in a bunch of prostitutes.

According to the first post, they did go to counseling and discussed it "in-depth" and nothing changed.

[j-6]

For all of you bashing this guy, don't you think it's better that he's banging a couple of escorts a year (a professional arrangement) than having an actual affair with emotional attachment?

No matter how the numbers add up (up to four escorts and maybe 6 sessions a year with the wifey), he still is jerking off a lot.

[CuckingFunt]

Although I must admit, I did look for the Fresh Prince ending first.Ditto.

That's pretty much SOP with long opening posts anymore.

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

I'm actually impressed the guy kept this under wraps for 8 years.

He definitely knows what he's doing.

[Melmart1]

According to the first post, they did go to counseling and discussed it "in-depth" and nothing changed.
Damn, I must have missed that part skimming for the cab to Bel Air ...

If that's true then I bet she knows, or maybe is stepping out on him, too. Some women turn a blind eye to that stuff.

And what is with all these guys wanting the information? I thought SpursTalk was full of playas who could get any hot chick they wanted ...

[BacktoBasics]

I'd say the probability is pretty high of this women not loving this guy anymore. Everything is great but no love or passion = chic bored and needs something new to feel better about herself. I wouldn't be shocked at all if she's cheating as well.

This guy went to a lot of trouble to fill a void in his life without sacrificing his wife to the fire by having a real relationship with either a local stranger or closer friend or acquaintance. He kept his extracurricular business just that....business. Its like needing a drink or a joint when your wife is a bitchy bible thumper. I appreciate this guy having the mental fortitude to do the right thing and find comfort without destroying the world around him.

You women are sure quick to burn this dude at the stake. There are meds for this shit his wife should have gone the extra mile for the marriage.

[CuckingFunt]

If that's true then I bet she knows, or maybe is stepping out on him, too. Some women turn a blind eye to that stuff.

This is true.

I knew a guy through my old job who was not at all shy about the various affairs/girlfriends he had on the side. And I'm 98% sure that his wife HAD to have known what was going on, but they're still together because the financial aspects associated with a divorce are more than either of them want to deal with.

[mrsmaalox]

... he's not bugging her to have sex.

:lmao I sense a married woman!!!:lol

[SpursWoman]

And what is with all these guys wanting the information? I thought SpursTalk was full of playas who could get any hot chick they wanted

I've thought more than once reading this thread that damn, I'm glad I don't have to pay for sex with a young, hot thing. :lol

[baseline bum]

I'd say the probability is pretty high of this women not loving this guy anymore. Everything is great but no love or passion = chic bored and needs something new to feel better about herself. I wouldn't be shocked at all if she's cheating as well.

This guy went to a lot of trouble to fill a void in his life without sacrificing his wife to the fire by having a real relationship with either a local stranger or closer friend or acquaintance. He kept his extracurricular business just that....business. Its like needing a drink or a joint when your wife is a bitchy bible thumper. I appreciate this guy having the mental fortitude to do the right thing and find comfort without destroying the world around him.

You women are sure quick to burn this dude at the stake. There are meds for this shit his wife should have gone the extra mile for the marriage.

I'd say the probability of this guy not existing is pretty close to 1.

[katyon6th]

And what is with all these guys wanting the information? I thought SpursTalk was full of playas who could get any hot chick they wanted ...

Small penises must pay for sex.

[CuckingFunt]

Small penises make me giggle.

[phyzik]

me, too. :lmao

+1 :spin

[Sunshine]

:lmao I sense a married woman!!!:lol


Ha! Not yet....but I have a lot of married friends.

[Findog]

I wouldn't tell his wife. If it leads to a divorce, then those kids are going to have to deal with a broken marriage. Unless things in the home are chaotic and ugly, then it's better to stay together until after they're out of high school. Ultimately he has to look in the mirror and deal with his conscience. Don't get in the middle of it.

[Findog]

Oh, and just ask him to hook you up with the info. What can it hurt? All he has to do is say no.

[SpursWoman]

Anyway ... poor Mrs. Chopper. Did she let one rip in front of you or something? :depressed

[ploto]

You never know what is really going on in someone else's relationship, no matter how it looks from the outside.

[Jimcs50]

Opportunity is knocking, Chopper.

Now you have an excuse for banging his wife.

:)

[Bigzax]

gimme the wifes number!

[ShoogarBear]

First thing I did was scroll down to the bottom of the post.

No Fresh Prince ending.

Guess I'll go back and read it now.

[ShoogarBear]

Although I must admit, I did look for the Fresh Prince ending first.:madrun

[ShoogarBear]

me, too. :lmao:madrun:madrun

[ShoogarBear]

:madrun :madrun :madrun

[ShoogarBear]

:madrun :madrun :madrun :madrun aw, hell . . .

[Dex]

Shoog goin for 30,000 tonight.

[spursfan09]

To all those women talking shit about this guy, let me ask you a question. Say two people are in a happy, healthy relationship. Now let's say that due to some freak accident one of those people is unable to have sex anymore. Should his or her spouse become celibate for the rest of their lives?

If you answered yes to that question you live in a fairytale fucking world, let me tell you. I'm not saying what this dude is doing is necessarily right, and to be honest, it does seem like the dude has gone through a lot of trouble to make himself feel better about what is essentially good old fashioned cheating. Having said that, I can't imagine having to go through a whole year without sex, and then only once every three months. That's NOT healthy. Shit! Its downright painful!

I feel for both them really. The woman has serious psychological problems, and the dude is suffering because of them. Sure his solution is bullshit, but his problem is a very real one.

I'm just curious as to what people here would do in his situation. What would be the right thing to do here IYO?

Get a divorce then. Then he can live his life however he wants to and the wife can move on with hers.

[exstatic]

While I think this whole thing is a joke of some kind, I will answer your question since it was posed seriously.

Not having sex or not having it frequently enough is a big problem in a marriage. However, if he was really her best friend and cared for her, he would have tried counseling before running off and sticking his nob in a bunch of prostitutes.

His "solution" was no solution at all. A solution implies you tried to work out a problem. He did no such thing, he ran away from his problem instead like a selfish idiot who thinks he was the only one "suffering" from their problem. I would bet cash money the wife is suffering more.
RIF. They did see a counselor. She's fine with the amount of sex they are having. That makes one of them.

Ladies, you're allowed to be sick or have the occasional headache, but once every 2-3 months isn't enough to keep a fly alive, let alone a man's penis. I personally probably would have filed for divorce, but not having kids, I probably don't have a handle on that whole thing.

I also think the school of thought "I'm not giving you any, but you better not be getting it anywhere else" is as selfish as anything I've ever heard attributed to a man.

[Jimcs50]

RIF. They did see a counselor. She's fine with the amount of sex they are having. That makes one of them.

Ladies, you're allowed to be sick or have the occasional headache, but once every 2-3 months isn't enough to keep a fly alive, let alone a man's penis. I personally probably would have filed for divorce, but not having kids, I probably don't have a handle on that whole thing.

I also think the school of thought "I'm not giving you any, but you better not be getting it anywhere else" is as selfish as anything I've ever heard attributed to a man.

I agree...but guys will fuck around no matter how often they are getting it at home.

[baseline bum]

Get a divorce then. Then he can live his life however he wants to and the wife can move on with hers.

Minus 1/2 his bank account.

[ploto]

Minus 1/2 his bank account.
Who knows- she could make more money than him. :oink :oink

[tlongII]

I agree...but guys will fuck around no matter how often they are getting it at home.

True dat.

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

This guy went to a lot of trouble to fill a void in his life without sacrificing his wife to the fire by having a real relationship with either a local stranger or closer friend or acquaintance. He kept his extracurricular business just that....business. Its like needing a drink or a joint when your wife is a bitchy bible thumper. I appreciate this guy having the mental fortitude to do the right thing and find comfort without destroying the world around him.

You women are sure quick to burn this dude at the stake. There are meds for this shit his wife should have gone the extra mile for the marriage.

^^I think this is basically how I've wrapped my mind around this too.

I was taken aback by it all, so I posted this to see what people thought about the whole situation, and I got the responses I expected. I can't discuss this with anyone I know, so this seemed like a good place to get opinions. Men have a little more compassion for this guy than the women do, obviously.

My friend loves his family. I know he does. I have a hard time judging him harshly. He obviously worked pretty darn hard to find an alternative to divorcing his wife. You can look at it as cowardly or admirable depending on your perspective I guess.

I do have the feeling he's about to change course, however. Confessions are usually a sign that someone is planning to change things and as I look at this I really think that's what my friend is thinking about doing. He's a very intelligent and calculating person. In business he's always known the right time to sell an investment, and I think he's thinking of making a change here...I think that's why he confided what he did to me...to guage my reaction as he charts his next move.

I'd of certainly done things differently in my relationship...at least I'm fairly certain of that. But none of us really know how we'd handle things until we're in that situation ourselves. I can't really judge him.

[2Blonde]

It kind of seems to me that he decided to fix his own situation and satisfy his own needs rather than continue to stick it out and push for ways to help his wife. Yes, I get that they went to counseling, but because it didn't resolve the way he wanted it then he just gave up. Who's to say than another counselor or sex therapy for couples or being open and honest with his wife about what he needs in order to be happy wouldn't have worked. It seems as though he never had any intention of putting his wife first by not giving up in trying to solve whatever her problem is. Did he bother urging her to go to the doctor to see if it could be a hormonal imbalance? Nope...I guess the hookers allowed him to only think of his needs.

I just think he sounds selfish.

[Slomo]

^^I think this is basically how I've wrapped my mind around this too.

I was taken aback by it all, so I posted this to see what people thought about the whole situation, and I got the responses I expected. I can't discuss this with anyone I know, so this seemed like a good place to get opinions. Men have a little more compassion for this guy than the women do, obviously.

My friend loves his family. I know he does. I have a hard time judging him harshly. He obviously worked pretty darn hard to find an alternative to divorcing his wife. You can look at it as cowardly or admirable depending on your perspective I guess.

I do have the feeling he's about to change course, however. Confessions are usually a sign that someone is planning to change things and as I look at this I really think that's what my friend is thinking about doing. He's a very intelligent and calculating person. In business he's always known the right time to sell an investment, and I think he's thinking of making a change here...I think that's why he confided what he did to me...to guage my reaction as he charts his next move.

I'd of certainly done things differently in my relationship...at least I'm fairly certain of that. But none of us really know how we'd handle things until we're in that situation ourselves. I can't really judge him.I obviously took the whole thing more as a joke than anything else. Your subsequent posts showed that the serious part is bigger than the joke part.

I agree with your quote above. He might be getting ready to make his next move. I'm not sure whether it's conscious, but it's a sign of change.




P.S. :lmao @ the small dicks smack. It's seems that high class hooker are threatening to some...

[Bigzax]

mmmm....high class sluts..... :hungry:

[SpursWoman]

P.S. :lmao @ the small dicks smack. It's seems that high class hooker are threatening to some...


Why would I be threatened by a hooker? She gets stuck with the ugly guys with tiny dicks that want to wear her underwear. :lol


I guess "for better or worse" and "promise to honor ... " has always meant something to me ... I guess with most of you it doesn't mean jack shit.

[j-6]

.

[spurster]

This is pretty low on the scale of bad things (assuming STDs are not part of this story). Nevertheless, they need better counseling. The wife needs to understand that her husband going to have sex whether it's with her or not. In general, women need to understand that men are going to have sex whether here or there (no, it's not true for all men, but it's a good assumption). Whether or not you women think that men are horrid creatures because of this, it's not going to change this basic fact of life.

Yes, the husband should be honest. Yes, the wife should be willing to work on it (at least counseling). I agree with Chopper that the situation is about a turn probably for the worse.

[SpursWoman]

I thought you were divorced, lady.



I am. And all that means is I wasn't going to waste the rest of my life with someone who couldn't keep the promise he made to me. I don't fuck around, nor tolerate people that do. I'm not desperate, man.

[Jimcs50]

I am. And all that means is I wasn't going to waste the rest of my life with someone who couldn't keep the promise he made to me. I don't fuck around, nor tolerate people that do. I'm not desperate, man.

nor should you be.

[Jimcs50]

This is pretty low on the scale of bad things (assuming STDs are not part of this story). Nevertheless, they need better counseling. The wife needs to understand that her husband going to have sex whether it's with her or not. In general, women need to understand that men are going to have sex whether here or there (no, it's not true for all men, but it's a good assumption). Whether or not you women think that men are horrid creatures because of this, it's not going to change this basic fact of life.

Yes, the husband should be honest. Yes, the wife should be willing to work on it (at least counseling). I agree with Chopper that the situation is about a turn probably for the worse.

Hell no, he should not be honest. The wife will divorce his ass if he told her that he is fucking prostitutes. He just needs to stop doing it, and get his wife to get her issues settled, and they need to start over. Maybe he can be happy afterall.

[j-6]

I am. And all that means is I wasn't going to waste the rest of my life with someone who couldn't keep the promise he made to me. I don't fuck around, nor tolerate people that do. I'm not desperate, man.

My point is that "for better or worse" and "promise to honor" are in the same vows as "until death do us part". I deleted my first post because this isn't about your personal life or mine, it's about the hypothetical hooker buying guy. I apologize.

[Flea]

Maybe he has bad breath?

[Slomo]

Why would I be threatened by a hooker? She gets stuck with the ugly guys with tiny dicks that want to wear her underwear. :lol


I guess "for better or worse" and "promise to honor ... " has always meant something to me ... I guess with most of you it doesn't mean jack shit.Because the small dick smack is a low blow, specially coming from women (size doesn't matter honey, really it doesn't... :lmao) so I thought it was funny how quickly we got that one served to us.

Wtf does it have anything to do with marriage? The smack was that only men with small dicks hire escorts (you just repeated it btw). Nobody said anything about the sanctity of marriage. Again overeacting much?

[SpursWoman]

Wtf does it have anything to do with marriage? The smack was that only men with small dicks hire escorts (you just repeated it btw). Nobody said anything about the sanctity of marriage. Again overeacting much?


WTF does a married man fucking prostitutes have to do with the sanctity of marriage? A lot, I'd say.

I was responding to all the "all of you jealous woman jumping the man's shit when all he wants to do is get his dick wet" type of remarks. Sorry, I didn't realize this guy was a martyr and therefore not open to criticism.

[Flea]

I think both are being selfish and both of them have a responsibility to work on it. Sex every 2-3 months is not enough unless both partners are ok with it. She needs to figure out what is wrong and he needs to support her and wait until they find out what is causing her lack of desire. If she doesnt care to figure it out and is happy with having sex only 4 times per year then I don't blame him for going elsewhere.

[mrsmaalox]

P.S. :lmao @ the small dicks smack. It's seems that high class hooker are threatening to some...

There is no such thing as a high class hooker; and if there were, then I'd be the highest class there is: I have no job, I have a nice house, 2 nice cars, all my bills are paid for me, I buy anything I want anytime I want, spend lots of time with my friends, the time I spend with my kids is all quality (I have no other real responsibilities). I deal with only one regular "client" (my husband, and only occasionally because he doesn't even live in the same town) who treats me well and he happens to be my best friend!
I think that guy should take a closer look---what he wants may just be in his own house! I know some guys are thinking "Yea but is he just as happy?". Well all I have to go on is my gut feeling and what he says to me. Right now that is all positive, and if it should turn negative then I can only hope that our
communication will help us work thru it. It has helped work out many problems already.

[easjer]

I'm really surprised. Marriage is about compromise, even with sex. I shouldn't have to fuck SFIE whenever he wants simply because he's a man with a high sex drive. Likewise, I should make an effort (or get treated for low sexual drive/function) even when I don't want sex to try and keep him happy. Find a middle ground we are both comfortable with.

It is NOT ok for him to step out to get whatever needs met. That goes against our vows and promises and the foundation of our relationship. Granted, if she is choosing to be physically frigid and close him out, that is wrong too. If she is able to be treated without dangerous side effects, and is choosing not to, then she is also contributing to the problem.

But regardless of whether or not they both brought about the problem of little sex in their marriage, his 'solution' is unacceptable without her consent. It is selfish and regardless of how many precautions are taken, there remains the possibility of contracting a disease that doesn't otherwise exist. It's lovely that he built up a castle in his mind about protecting his wife by not forming emotional attachments (though he's formed an addiction and claims that he can't keep a happy relationship with his wife without sleeping with a very expensive prostitute) or sleeping with anyone she knows (which doesn't preclude her finding out. And it seems she would be pretty upset regardless). Yeah, he went to a lot of effort for what boils down to the same thing - cheating on his wife and hiding it from her.

This actually makes me shake with anger. And the idea that selfish animalistic urges that can be controlled (because by God, plenty of people do lead celibate lives) are a justification for it (and therefore, it's her fault that he's sticking his dick into a whore) - what the fuck? It's the same faulty line of logic as "She was raped because she was asking for it by wearing a miniskirt." or "I didn't want to beat her, but she makes me so angry sometimes." This situation is clearly some distance from that, but the justifications are the same, and I find it infuriating.

[Prostitute Dynasty]

He is just fucking the prostitutes that he is supposed to fuck.

[easjer]

Oh, and I would be really, really, really shocked if she hasn't figured it out. Eight years of it? Yeah, unless she's really trying to be blind, anyone would have to make some connections, you know? I'd be very curious about the money situation and how he is hiding that from her.

[Jimcs50]

Oh, and I would be really, really, really shocked if she hasn't figured it out. Eight years of it? Yeah, unless she's really trying to be blind, anyone would have to make some connections, you know? I'd be very curious about the money situation and how he is hiding that from her.

Not every wife keeps up with the finances. If he pays all bills, it would not be hard to hide the expenditures.

[easjer]

I can also see him having a separate account (I don't know what Jason does with the money in his personal account, but I do know it's a small amount of money, because I know what goes into our joint account), which would make sense. I'd just be curious about how he hides it.

[Jimcs50]

I can also see him having a separate account (I don't know what Jason does with the money in his personal account, but I do know it's a small amount of money, because I know what goes into our joint account), which would make sense. I'd just be curious about how he hides it.

He probably could not hide $1000 for a "high class" whore expenditure, huh?

:)

[Jimcs50]

BTW, I could never use a prostitute....I would not be too comfortable, as I would have to be checking checking my cock for green and purple sores every day for a solid month after the sex.....not worth it.
:p:

[easjer]

Oh, and also, because I can't stop thinking about this -

Apart from the risk of STD's this guy is running, there is never a guarantee that one of these girls won't turn up pregnant, claiming he's the daddy. There is never a guarantee that one of these girls isn't secretly fliming the encounter or taking pictures to use as blackmail. There is never a guarantee that one of these hookers isn't a cop in a sting. There is never a guarantee that one of these agencies won't be busted and won't have their client list published in court (I mean, that's never happened, right?).

And the guy knows it's wrong, or he wouldn't hide it. He knows his wife isn't ok with it, so he doesn't tell her. He tells himself that his little romps aren't dangerous (because they use protection and because the agencies are so great and exclusive and secretive), that he's protecting his wife (yeah, right) and that it's making him a better husband (again, sure thing, buddy). But it's an extremely dangerous practice.

[easjer]

He probably could not hide $1000 for a "high class" whore expenditure, huh?

:)


:lol He has no need.

But yeah, I know how much he makes and I know how much goes into our joint account. He knows the same about my checks and my personal account and our joint account.

That's just good business practice. I do handle a lot of the bills, but we know precisely how much we make, because we are trying to stick to a budget and pay off debt. Money can't just go flying out the window.

Now, if SFIE has found a way to pick up a five dollar whore and charge it to UH on-campus restaurants, then he's found a way around me, because I do see charges for that on our bank statement. . .

[SpursWoman]

Now, if SFIE has found a way to pick up a five dollar whore and charge it to UH on-campus restaurants, then he's found a way around me, because I do see charges for that on our bank statement. . .


Awesome. :lmao

[easjer]

;)

[Jimcs50]

:lol He has no need.


Now, if SFIE has found a way to pick up a five dollar whore and charge it to UH on-campus restaurants, then he's found a way around me, because I do see charges for that on our bank statement. . .

I do not think your husband even knows John Smith, so no need to worry about that.

:)

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

I do not think your husband even knows John Smith, so no need to worry about that.

:)

:lol Sweet!

[Extra Stout]

I still believe Chopper is making this up.

If he's not making it up, then I don't see anything to debate. The guy is a lying, cheating bastard. Men are not entitled to sex whenever they want it. I don't really believe that a 45-year-old has such a high sex drive that he has to resort to this anyway. Using expensive whores is not making his relationship with his wife better. What's happening is that he enjoys having sex with the whores, and simply is rationalizing doing it.

[thispego]

well, now we know who's wive's read their post history and whose don't

[Jimcs50]

well, now we know who's wive's read their post history and whose don't

:rollin


I was thinking the same thing.

[SpursWoman]

I'm just glad you guys aren't here to find a girlfriend. Because this thread effectively weeded out quite a few of you. :lol

[angel_luv]

Although I must admit, I did look for the Fresh Prince ending first.


I would have preferred it.

[spurs_fan_in_exile]

:
Now, if SFIE has found a way to pick up a five dollar whore and charge it to UH on-campus restaurants, then he's found a way around me, because I do see charges for that on our bank statement. . .
What makes you think I'd have to pay for it? Kissinger said that power was the ultimate aphrodisiac (and if that ugly bastard was getting any action at all you know that's got to be true). I'm not exactly the secretary of state or anything, but I am in charge of 8 (yeah people, you're reading that right. It's no typo) student workers. So, not to brag or anything, but I'm kind of a big deal. Besides, why do you think that half the girls I hire are wildly incompetent?

I won't say who inspired my management style, but my heroes have always been dentists. :spin

[easjer]

What makes you think I'd have to pay for it? Kissinger said that power was the ultimate aphrodisiac (and if that ugly bastard was getting any action at all you know that's got to be true). I'm not exactly the secretary of state or anything, but I am in charge of 8 (yeah people, you're reading that right. It's no typo) student workers. So, not to brag or anything, but I'm kind of a big deal. Besides, why do you think that half the girls I hire are wildly incompetent?

I won't say who inspired my management style, but my heroes have always been dentists. :spin


You literally made me spit water at my keyboard.

:lmao

[baseline bum]

I still believe Chopper is making this up.

If he's not making it up, then I don't see anything to debate. The guy is a lying, cheating bastard. Men are not entitled to sex whenever they want it. I don't really believe that a 45-year-old has such a high sex drive that he has to resort to this anyway. Using expensive whores is not making his relationship with his wife better. What's happening is that he enjoys having sex with the whores, and simply is rationalizing doing it.

You don't believe a 45 year-old man has a high enough sex drive to want it more than 5 times a year? The simple solution is to divorce the bitch, but it sounds like this guy is well enough off that he'd get taken to the cleaners in a divorce. All of you pissy women running your mouths off are acting stupid; there's no way in hell any man should be satisfied in a marriage where he can't get laid.

[easjer]

All of you pissy women running your mouths off are acting stupid; there's no way in hell any man should be satisfied in a marriage where he can't get laid.

No one is claiming he should be satisfied with the situation. We are claiming that his solution to the problem is the wrong course of action.

And it is. And he knows it.

Marriage sometimes (frequently) requires sacrifices and compromises. He is neither sacrificing or compromising. He's simply filling his own needs without regard to the potential harm to his marriage. He's justifying his actions by pretending it makes things better, when it makes the marriage fraudulent.

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

Marriage sometimes (frequently) requires sacrifices and compromises. She is neither sacrificing nor compromising. She's simply filling her own needs without regard to the potential harm to her marriage. She's justifying her actions by pretending it makes things better, when it makes the marriage fraudulent.

[spurster]

While we are on the subject of men as horrible creatures, it seems very possible that the husband is, how shall I say it, less than sensitive to his wife's needs.

In any case, fault-finding is entertaining, but they need to work on improving their situation, and if that can't be done, ah, well.

[SpursWoman]

I don't think men are horrible creatures ... just that one. :lol

[CuckingFunt]

Marriage sometimes (frequently) requires sacrifices and compromises. She is neither sacrificing nor compromising. She's simply filling her own needs without regard to the potential harm to her marriage. She's justifying her actions by pretending it makes things better, when it makes the marriage fraudulent.
I see what you did there.

[Slomo]

WTF does a married man fucking prostitutes have to do with the sanctity of marriage? A lot, I'd say.
Sure, but where did I say that?

Anyway this thread that started essentially as a joke from Chopper is getting way too serious, so I'll stop posting in it.

Beside, high horses scare me.

[easjer]

I'm not claiming she's a saint - no one knows for certain what lengths they have tried to up her libido. She is sleeping with him, by all accounts, though perhaps not with the frequency he would like.

But there is no indication, from what is posted, that she is going outside the marriage and breaking vows and hiding it from him. So where is the biggest problem here?

I'm not saying at all that she is not part of the problem. She may well be. But his actions are almost not part of that issue. What he is doing is wrong, plain and simple. What she is or isn't doing may or may not be wrong - but what he is doing is.

There is no justification for what he is doing (and hiding from his wife) including that he isn't getting laid often enough.

[easjer]

Beside, high horses scare me.


It's too bad. The view from up here is magnificent.

:)

[ShoogarBear]

Just wondering, how many of you outraged wimmens thought The Bridges of Madison County was a wonderful movie?

[baseline bum]

Only getting laid 5 times a year is plenty reason to go outside of one's marriage. I'm guessing she's only with him because of the money factor. Otherwise, why stay with someone you never want to fuck at that age? It's not like they're 65 or something.

[CuckingFunt]

Just wondering, how many of you outraged wimmens thought The Bridges of Madison County was a wonderful movie?
But, Shoog... that is, like, so totally different.

[ShoogarBear]

I agree the specific situations are different, but a recurring theme in this society (and promoted in the popular culture) is that a guy having an extramarital affair = "heartless cruel dog", while a woman having an extramarital affair = "because her husband is a heartless cruel dog".

[SpursWoman]

Just wondering, how many of you outraged wimmens thought The Bridges of Madison County was a wonderful movie?

I've never seen it. :spin

[easjer]

Just wondering, how many of you outraged wimmens thought The Bridges of Madison County was a wonderful movie?

Never saw it. Sorry.

So, just so I'm clear, all of the folks defending this guy - if a woman has a physical need for intimacy and foreplay that her husband only provides a couple times a year (say for the anniversary and her birthday as a treat)-- and plenty of folks say this is a true emotional and physical need for women -- if her husband doesn't oblige her, she is free to get this intimacy from another source and lie to her husband about her activities?

Or, hell, forgo the physical need, and say she likes to be held and cuddled, but her husband doesn't do that. So she has an 'emotional affair' with a coworker or colleague. Or pays someone to hold her, but never tells her husband. That's ok too?

I mean, we're naturally assuming here that she brought it up and they went to counseling and the husband was unable or unwilling to change his ways. So her needs aren't being met here.

I just want to make sure I understand.

Because my answer is the same to both - it is wrong.

[CuckingFunt]

Only getting laid 5 times a year is plenty reason to go outside of one's marriage. I'm guessing she's only with him because of the money factor. Otherwise, why stay with someone you never want to fuck at that age? It's not like they're 65 or something.
I don't know if I'd go so far as to suggest that the infrequent sex fully justifies his decision to fuck around on her, but I can certainly understand the frustration.

Considering he's be doing it for eight years, I can't believe that the wife is completely unaware of what's going on. Which can't be helping things much -- I don't know that I'd be terribly eager to fuck my husband more if I knew he was getting some on the side. Between his escorts and her denial, they're both just completely wasting each other's time, which is what I've always thought to be the worst part of infidelity.

[baseline bum]

Never saw it. Sorry.

So, just so I'm clear, all of the folks defending this guy - if a woman has a physical need for intimacy and foreplay that her husband only provides a couple times a year (say for the anniversary and her birthday as a treat)-- and plenty of folks say this is a true emotional and physical need for women -- if her husband doesn't oblige her, she is free to get this intimacy from another source and lie to her husband about her activities?

Or, hell, forgo the physical need, and say she likes to be held and cuddled, but her husband doesn't do that. So she has an 'emotional affair' with a coworker or colleague. Or pays someone to hold her, but never tells her husband. That's ok too?

I mean, we're naturally assuming here that she brought it up and they went to counseling and the husband was unable or unwilling to change his ways. So her needs aren't being met here.

I just want to make sure I understand.

Because my answer is the same to both - it is wrong.

Yeah sure. If she tells him what she wants and he doesn't provide it, of course she should go elsewhere.

[easjer]

I agree the specific situations are different, but a recurring theme in this society (and promoted in the popular culture) is that a guy having an extramarital affair = "heartless cruel dog", while a woman having an extramarital affair = "because her husband is a heartless cruel dog".

I think I answered it above, but I think it is equally wrong.

[CuckingFunt]

I agree the specific situations are different, but a recurring theme in this society (and promoted in the popular culture) is that a guy having an extramarital affair = "heartless cruel dog", while a woman having an extramarital affair = "because her husband is a heartless cruel dog".
Oh, I got what you were saying and I completely agree.

You couldn't pay me to watch The Bridges of Madison County, for the record. I'd rather scalp myself with a butter knife.

[easjer]

Yeah sure. If she tells him what she wants and he doesn't provide it, of course she should go elsewhere.


See, then we just flat out disagree. Which is fine! But I think so long as the marriage remains in place, it is wrong to step outside the marriage without the consent of your spouse.

[baseline bum]

See, then we just flat out disagree. Which is fine! But I think so long as the marriage remains in place, it is wrong to step outside the marriage without the consent of your spouse.

In a perfect world, divorce is the obvious answer. If he made her sign a pre-nup, then he is an idiot for not divorcing her.

[SpursWoman]

I agree the specific situations are different, but a recurring theme in this society (and promoted in the popular culture) is that a guy having an extramarital affair = "heartless cruel dog", while a woman having an extramarital affair = "because her husband is a heartless cruel dog".


Cheating is cheating ... I have no double standard on that issue.

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

So, what would have been his solution outside of divorce? The counseling didn't work because she was happy as is, which of course trumps all. Constant masterbation? Hoping things would get better?

When a man isn't happy, he's supposed to deal with it. When a woman isn't happy, they need to deal with it. Notice the difference?

Ever notice when a man needs to talk to you it usually starts, "I need to talk to you." Simple, right?

A woman, OTOH, will start the same conversation like this, "We need to talk."

I could ramble on and on, but will choose to do it over several posts. Grazie.

Bat. Shit. Crazy.

[ploto]

I don't know that I'd be terribly eager to fuck my husband more if I knew he was getting some on the side.

Bingo! Why would she want to have sex with a guy who is cheating on her with prostitutes? I am sure he is making his wife feel really special, loved, and cherished. Wouldn't you want to curl up with this sleeze?

And he is NOT doing some service to his children by keeping together this fraudulent marraige. Kids know more than their parents think. If he can't be faithful to their mother, he should divorce her. She deserves the opportunity to be with someone who can be faithful.

What is he teaching his children about relationships and how to handle problems. Does he hope his daughter grows up to have a husband who cheats on her with hookers?

Truth be told, he "left" his wife years ago. He just didn't tell her.

[Bigzax]

I'm just glad you guys aren't here to find a girlfriend. Because this thread effectively weeded out quite a few of you. :lol


we're on the lookout for whores lady! this thread gets the word out!

[Bigzax]

well, now we know who's wive's read their post history and whose don't



did you think i started posting as bigzax for fun? :lmao

[SpursWoman]

we're on the lookout for whores lady! this thread gets the word out!


Gets the word out that you're all whores, what? :lol

[Bigzax]

Men are not entitled to sex whenever they want it.


speak for yourself!

[CuckingFunt]

Bingo! Why would she want to have sex with a guy who is cheating on her with prostitutes? I am sure he is making his wife feel really special, loved, and cherished. Wouldn't you want to curl up with this sleeze?

And he is NOT doing some service to his children by keeping together this fraudulent marraige. Kids know more than their parents think. If he can't be faithful to their mother, he should divorce her. She deserves the opportunity to be with someone who can be faithful.

What is he teaching his children about relationships and how to handle problems. Does he hope his daughter grows up to have a husband who cheats on her with hookers?

Truth be told, he "left" his wife years ago.
I see you quoted my post, but I don't necessarily agree with your response.

He's an asshole for cheating on her for eight years, but if everything is actually as presented in the opening post, he's not the only one who's fucked up. If she knows what's going on, and I'd have a hard time believing that she doesn't, then she's every bit as much to blame for not confronting him and moving on.

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

Bingo! Why would she want to have sex with a guy who is cheating on her with prostitutes? I am sure he is making his wife feel really special, loved, and cherished. Wouldn't you want to curl up with this sleeze?


See?

Now it's his fault, even if she was the one who turned him away. Multiple times. After he said he wasn't happy. After tennis elbow. After counseling.

Truth be told, he probably would have divorced her ass long ago if he didn't have to give her half of his shit.

[ShoogarBear]

Oh, I got what you were saying and I completely agree.

You couldn't pay me to watch The Bridges of Madison County, for the record. I'd rather scalp myself with a butter knife.I was 90% sure you were being your usual snarky self but I just wanted to have my bases covered.

And I got tricked into watching The Bridges of Madison County. I thought for sure that ol' Clint was going to blow them up.

[SpursWoman]

Truth be told, he probably would have divorced her ass long ago if he didn't have to give her half of his shit.

Since I highly doubt he was loaded when they first got married, that's half of their shit.

But I still think she knows. I honestly can't think of any other instance that would turn me off of my husband for any period of time than if I knew he were being unfaithful or if I had any other reason not to trust him.

Of course, I make my own money ... so there would be no "period of time" other than the time it takes him to pick his shit up out of the front yard. :drunk

[ploto]

Once he decided cheating was an ACCEPTABLE solution for him, he destroyed any chance of working out a REAL solution.

With 8 years of cheating with hookers, she will get even more money from him. :D

[easjer]

Well, this is speculation, but the original post indicated that the sex life began to go downhill after the birth of the third child.

Is it worth pointing out the myriad conditions besides a newborn infant and two other young children that could lessen her desire? The toll childbirth takes on the vagina (even in a c-section) and the period of recovery time that some women require?

If they went to counseling and things didn't change, I would (and do) assume she bears some responsibility - but there are physical conditions which may cause a period of no sex or low sex drive.

[baseline bum]

Once he decided cheating was an ACCEPTABLE solution for him, he destroyed any chance of working out a REAL solution.

With 8 years of cheating with hookers, she will get even more money from him. :D

The solution she worked out was to not give him what he needs and what any man expects in a marriage.

[ploto]

In a perfect world, divorce is the obvious answer. If he made her sign a pre-nup, then he is an idiot for not divorcing her.
I am guessing his extensive cheating would impact that pre-nup, it one exists.

[easjer]

The solution she worked out was to not give him what he needs and what any man expects in a marriage.


Except they are still having sex. The frequency is the question; she's not completely shut him down. She didn't kick him out to the couch - they just aren't having as much sex as he wants.

I think that is a distinction worth noting. A man expects sex in marriage - and this is getting it. Just not as often as he would like. There should be some room for compromise - no is joined into marriage with the idea of being their spouse's sex toy.

[baseline bum]

Except they are still having sex. The frequency is the question; she's not completely shut him down. She didn't kick him out to the couch - they just aren't having as much sex as he wants.

I think that is a distinction worth noting. A man expects sex in marriage - and this is getting it. Just not as often as he would like. There should be some room for compromise - no is joined into marriage with the idea of being their spouse's sex toy.

That's not a reasonable sex life. Wanting it more than bi-monthly isn't treating your woman like a sex-doll.

[ploto]

The solution she worked out was to not give him what he needs and what any man expects in a marriage.
And maybe she was incapable. I bet she was not this way intentionally. Maybe she needed MEDICAL help. I never saw that mentioned- only counseling.

How about all those men who can not get it up for their wives? Let's not give them any medical help either.

There are medical reasons for low sex drive- not to mention the exhaustion of taking care of 3 little kids.

[Bigzax]

There should be some room for compromise - no(one) is joined into marriage with the idea of being their spouse's sex toy.


again with the generalizations!!?? speak for yourself lady!

[baseline bum]

And maybe she was incapable. I bet she was not this way intentionally. Maybe she needed MEDICAL help. I never saw that mentioned- only counseling.

How about all those men who can not get it up for their wives? Let's not give them any medical help either.

There are medical reasons for low sex drive- not to mention the exhaustion of taking care of 3 little kids.



We don't need to kiss; we don't have to fuck.
I'll pull out my dick, bitch
You can suck

[Bigzax]

you know...nobody is considering the high class hookers feelings in all this...





i would really like to know how she feels...:)

[Shelly]

you know...nobody is considering the high class hookers feelings in all this...





i would really like to know how she feels...:)

Has Ten Buck Tammy chimed in? I'm sure she considers herself high class.

[Bigzax]

hey, if i can't put a bucket of chicken on a hookers back? then she's got too much class for me...

[SpursWoman]

That's not a reasonable sex life. Wanting it more than bi-monthly isn't treating your woman like a sex-doll.


It sounds more like semi-annually ... bi-monthly doesn't sound all that bad in comparison. :lol




We don't need to kiss; we don't have to fuck.
I'll pull out my dick, bitch
You can suck


Or at least a hand job. :tu :lol

[2Blonde]

And maybe she was incapable. I bet she was not this way intentionally. Maybe she needed MEDICAL help. I never saw that mentioned- only counseling.

How about all those men who can not get it up for their wives? Let's not give them any medical help either.

There are medical reasons for low sex drive- not to mention the exhaustion of taking care of 3 little kids.
I mentioned it a long time ago.


It kind of seems to me that he decided to fix his own situation and satisfy his own needs rather than continue to stick it out and push for ways to help his wife. Yes, I get that they went to counseling, but because it didn't resolve the way he wanted it then he just gave up. Who's to say than another counselor or sex therapy for couples or being open and honest with his wife about what he needs in order to be happy wouldn't have worked. It seems as though he never had any intention of putting his wife first by not giving up in trying to solve whatever her problem is. Did he bother urging her to go to the doctor to see if it could be a hormonal imbalance? Nope...I guess the hookers allowed him to only think of his needs.

I just think he sounds selfish.

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

Cue the "Goodbye, Horses" music:

Would you fuck me?... I'd fuck me... I'd fuck me hard...




And why should he have to urge her to go to the doctor? Shouldn't she want to go on her own if she cared about her marriage?

[thispego]

Women are weird. Who the hell wants to have sex with your girlfriend or wife if she's not really in to it? You want her to fake like she wants it? You want to have to beg and plead until she gives it up? It's not exactly comfortable going to a "specialist" or a "therapist" and divulging all of you and your spouses sexual business to some stranger. The wife is probably happy that her husband isnt forcing her to do something he knows she doesn't really want to do. I'm sure he would love to have sex with his wife and only his wife whenever he wanted (within reason), but he can't. If he wasn't sleeping with the escorts he would be the only one suffering in the marriage. Is That Right?

[Extra Stout]

Most of the men who have posted in this thread will probably have an afterlife where Satan re-enacts the torture scene from Casino Royale on them for all eternity.

[Kori Ellis]

Except they are still having sex. The frequency is the question; she's not completely shut him down. She didn't kick him out to the couch - they just aren't having as much sex as he wants.

I think that is a distinction worth noting. A man expects sex in marriage - and this is getting it. Just not as often as he would like. There should be some room for compromise - no is joined into marriage with the idea of being their spouse's sex toy.

He's not asking her to be his sex toy. He's asking for a reasonable amount of sex. Sex twice a year, or every few months isn't reasonable. It's ridiculous. If the woman went thru emotional/physical trauma and can't have sex, then the husband needs to be patient and see her through it. But she's still having sex - so she's not completely incapable.

I think it's sick that he's going to an escort. But it's also sick to think that a man (or a woman) should go months on end without sex.

I know a few people that have been in similar situation (not exact but similar).

One guy I know married his long-term girlfriend. In their first 8 months of marriage, they had sex three times. They divorced.

Another guy I know was married for a few years, had a baby. Then his wife completely cut him off - like they went two years without having sex. She said she was having "emotional trauma" too. He hung in there for the baby. Eventually, he divorced her. It came out during the divorce that she had been banging her trainer for two years.

[Melmart1]

Women are weird. Who the hell wants to have sex with your girlfriend or wife if she's not really in to it? You want her to fake like she wants it? You want to have to beg and plead until she gives it up? It's not exactly comfortable going to a "specialist" or a "therapist" and divulging all of you and your spouses sexual business to some stranger. The wife is probably happy that her husband isnt forcing her to do something he knows she doesn't really want to do. I'm sure he would love to have sex with his wife and only his wife whenever he wanted (within reason), but he can't. If he wasn't sleeping with the escorts he would be the only one suffering in the marriage. Is That Right?
Who the hell wants to have sex with a hooker -- do you think SHE is "into it." She is pretending to be into it for the profit.

And no, whether he seeks the hookers or not, I can honestly say that I doubt he is the only one "suffering" in that marriage. Particularly if she knows about it.

[SpursWoman]

I think I'm going to go home and screw the hell out of my DH. An ounce of prevention, and all that. :lol

[thispego]

Who the hell wants to have sex with a hooker -- do you think SHE is "into it." She is pretending to be into it for the profit.

And no, whether he seeks the hookers or not, I can honestly say that I doubt he is the only one "suffering" in that marriage. Particularly if she knows about it.
escort > hooker
these are high class, disease-free, paying their way through college ladies with bangin bodies and gorgeous looks. Every red-blooded american male wants to have sex with them. And I can't speak for every situation, yes she's getting paid, but she also might enjoy herself a little too.

And my questions was: If he was being faithful to his wife wouldn't he be suffering from the lack of a sex life? The wife isn't suffering because she doesn't want a sex-life. The husband would go unfulfilled and the wife is content..... Is that a better situation?

[johnsmith]

Who the hell wants to have sex with a hooker -- do you think SHE is "into it." She is pretending to be into it for the profit.


Having never nailed a hooker I can't really say, but I can still say that a smoking hot 25 year old with a perfect body is what it is..........so who gives a shit if she's into it, as long as you win in the end.

[baseline bum]

I think I'm going to go home and screw the hell out of my DH. An ounce of prevention, and all that. :lol

:lol

Best reply in the thread so far.

[Jimcs50]

I think I'm going to go home and screw the hell out of my DH. An ounce of prevention, and all that. :lol

Designated hitter???


You dating Big Papi?

[SpursWoman]

escort > hooker
these are high class, disease-free, paying their way through college ladies with bangin bodies and gorgeous looks. Every red-blooded american male wants to have sex with them. And I can't speak for every situation, yes she's getting paid, but she also might enjoy herself a little too.


:lol

A hooker in high heels is still a hooker ... just because she might still have all of her teeth, she still spreads her legs for cash.

[Shelly]

I think I'm going to go home and screw the hell out of my DH. An ounce of prevention, and all that. :lol

I wish I had ignored my husband. He's the that gave me the #$*#%*@%#$&^%^ flu!

Thanks, honey. Thanks a lot.

[baseline bum]

escort > hooker
these are high class, disease-free, paying their way through college ladies with bangin bodies and gorgeous looks. Every red-blooded american male wants to have sex with them. And I can't speak for every situation, yes she's getting paid, but she also might enjoy herself a little too.

And my questions was: If he was being faithful to his wife wouldn't he be suffering from the lack of a sex life? The wife isn't suffering because she doesn't want a sex-life. The husband would go unfulfilled and the wife is content..... Is that a better situation?

Hooker / stripper paying her way through college? :lmao

More like paying her way through coke addiction.

[Jimcs50]

Having never nailed a hooker I can't really say, but I can still say that a smoking hot 25 year old with a perfect body is what it is..........so who gives a shit if she's into it, as long as you win in the end.

I think she wins, asshole...$1200 to $2500 for 30 mins work.

You could jerk off for free, and not wake up with an itch in your crotch too.

[Melmart1]

escort > hooker
these are high class, disease-free, paying their way through college ladies with bangin bodies and gorgeous looks. Every red-blooded american male wants to have sex with them. And I can't speak for every situation, yes she's getting paid, but she also might enjoy herself a little too.


:lmao

[baseline bum]

I think she wins, asshole...$1200 to $2500 for 30 mins work.

You could jerk off for free, and not wake up with an itch in your crotch too.

$1200? I wouldn't pay that to fuck the virgin Mary.

She got a pussy made of gold or something?

[Kori Ellis]

I think she wins, asshole...$1200 to $2500 for 30 mins work.



You know some expensive hookers!

:)

[johnsmith]

I think she wins, asshole...$1200 to $2500 for 30 mins work.

You could jerk off for free, and not wake up with an itch in your crotch too.


Ok.

[thispego]

Hooker / stripper paying her way through college? :lmao

More like paying her way through coke addiction.
yall think these are the bitches they pick up on COPS in sting operations or something. These are HIGH DOLLAR ESCORTS. sorry ya'll don't know about these sorts of things.

[thispego]

:lol

A hooker in high heels is still a hooker ... just because she might still have all of her teeth, she still spreads her legs for cash.
having all their teeth isn't the only thing going for these girl, I would bet.

[thispego]

:lmao
maybe you all should re-read the original post. We're not talking about red-ligh district street hookers here, people.

[baseline bum]

Every time I go to a strip club I get the "I'm paying my way through college bit." Bullshit. I guess it sounds better than the "I need coke money and I have to buy shit for my loser mooch boyfriend."

[SpursWoman]

having all their teeth isn't the only thing going for these girl, I would bet.


...yeah, I guess in their profession the ability to pretend to be filled with awe at a 4 inch dick and be able to ignore great big ugly warts, toupee's and lifts would come in handy, too. :lol

[johnsmith]

...yeah, I guess in their profession the ability to pretend to be filled with awe at a 4 inch dick and be able to ignore great big ugly warts, toupee's and lifts would come in handy, too.


Sounds like Jim's wife.

[Jimcs50]

You know some expensive hookers!

:)

Only by reputation....

:)

Chopper, what price range are we talking about here? I am sure that I am in the ballpark.


Now the women will really be pissed at the poor bastard.

"He is spending that much to fuck?!!!!!" "Hell, that is a couple of Coach bags or a pair of Jimmy Choo shoes."

:)

:lol

[baseline bum]

Sounds like Jim's wife.

Thread hijack! :madrun

[thispego]

...yeah, I guess in their profession the ability to pretend to be filled with awe at a 4 inch dick and be able to ignore great big ugly warts, toupee's and lifts would come in handy, too.
I didn't know only guys with below average dick lengths, fake hair, and skin problems could patronize their services.

[Jimcs50]

Sounds like Jim's wife.


:lol

Wow, I have found a sense of humor in you....wonders.......

[nkdlunch]

blackmail him to pay for your monthly escort.

[Jimcs50]

Thread hijack! :madrun

this thread is staying on topic about as much as possible....I'll give it that.

[Jimcs50]

I didn't know only guys with below average dick lengths, fake hair, and skin problems could patronize their services.

They would be lining up at johnsmith's door, if that were the case.

[baseline bum]

BTW, this thread is worthless without pics.

[nkdlunch]

btw, for less than $1,000 you could have a 2 night binge in Costa Rica trip/hotel included. that's what I heard....

[Jimcs50]

BTW, this thread is worthless without pics.


http://images.starpulse.com/Photos/Previews/Pretty-Woman-movie-07.jpg

[thispego]

Every time I go to a strip club I get the "I'm paying my way through college bit." Bullshit. I guess it sounds better than the "I need coke money and I have to buy shit for my loser mooch boyfriend."
these aren't strip clubs girls

[thispego]

They would be lining up at johnsmith's door, if that were the case.
:lmao

[SpursWoman]

I didn't know only guys with below average dick lengths, fake hair, and skin problems could patronize their services.


Yeah, they are all Richard Gere. :lol

[easjer]

He's not asking her to be his sex toy. He's asking for a reasonable amount of sex. Sex twice a year, or every few months isn't reasonable. It's ridiculous. If the woman went thru emotional/physical trauma and can't have sex, then the husband needs to be patient and see her through it. But she's still having sex - so she's not completely incapable.

I think it's sick that he's going to an escort. But it's also sick to think that a man (or a woman) should go months on end without sex.



No you are right. I started to post that and agree with baseline_bum and then had to run into a meeting.

I don't think he's unreasonable for wanting more sex. I think she should try and accommodate him. That's her part of the compromise I was talking about with my original post.

He's still a fucking asshole.

[pimp]

BTW, this thread is worthless without pics.


Here you go! (http://www.targetescorts.com/escort-services.htm)


http://www.targetescorts.com/images/mischa2.jpg

[thispego]

Yeah, they are all Richard Gere. :lol
i'm sure their client base is pretty diverse, actually.

[SpursWoman]

i'm sure their client base is pretty diverse, actually.


As long as their client list doesn't include my husband, I honestly don't care what skeeze is throwing money at them. :drunk

[thispego]

As long as their client list doesn't include my husband, I honestly don't care what skeeze is throwing money at them. :drunk
:toast

[SA Gunslinger]

I have married friends that are faithful to their wives, and I have a few that cheat. I guess it depends on how much you love your wife. And that's all encompassing from sexual intimacy to friendship. The one's that love their wives don't cheat.

And by the way, some men have small penises but some women have huge vaginas.

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[DieMrBond]

Sticking your penis in someone that isn't your wife is still cheating (unless she are you are both 100% no bullshit okay with it), no matter how you justify it.

[ploto]

We do not know the real details of what goes on in this relationship. This story is one-sided coming from the man who is cheating and justifying it to himself. I am guessing she might tell a different tale of their marriage. How do you know how he treats her otherwise? This situation is probably a lot more complicated than a man who wants sex and a wife who does not.

2Blonde-- I did not mean that medical care had not been mentioned in this thread; I meant that the OP did not mention that they ever did seek medical treatment- only therapy.

[spurster]

Yes, we need Dr. Mrs. Chopper to get the other side of the story and get it posted here. I'm sure it would be enlightening.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Cheating is cheating ... I have no double standard on that issue.

I think there are two distinct types of people in the world when it comes to committed relationships, and SW's quote sums one of them up. I am in her camp and believe that if you are in a committed relationship with someone (ie. you have agreed to be monogamous with them, which for me goes along with the friendship/spiritual attachment in a relationship), then cheating is the WORST thing you can do to the other person because it is the most sacred trust, and once it is broken everything else will eventually unravel.

The other main camp is the pragmatists, who believe that relationships have fluid boundaries and that sometimes lies are necessary in a relationship to keep it working for a greater good (the kids or whatever). A third small group (tlong and someone else) takes this to extremes by assuming that all men are cheaters and that's the way the world is, which is bullshit. Many men are faithful.

As for Chopper's scenario, the guy's deluding himself, and he' a lying bastard, but if everything is working in the family it may be the bigger evil to bring it all out into the open and break the family up. I say he should STFU, never see another prostitute in his life, and re-commit himself to what is REAL in his life - his wife, his kids. He should remind himself of the shitty thing he's done (betrayed the people he loves the most) every time he thinks about hookers, and hope that the shame of that will become associated with the thought of hookers thus breaking his compulsion. I still feel sorry for the wife, but is it better to get your husband back, or to punish him for past misdeeds? But then again, what the fuck do I know?

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Oh, and as for what Kori said about going "months on end without sex" - in a relationship, I agree that it's unreasonable, but when single, for some of us at least, it's a lifestyle! :lmao :oops