View Full Version : Will Crayton stay in Dallas?
dougp
01-17-2008, 01:58 PM
After all the mess about Crayton basically costing the Cowboys the game with a few of his plays, in particular the slow-down, missed touchdown - do you think he'll be on the Cowboys next year, on a really short leash?
MoSpur
01-17-2008, 02:00 PM
Depends on what his contract looks like. I voted no BTW.
samikeyp
01-17-2008, 02:05 PM
I see him dealt.
Findog
01-17-2008, 02:06 PM
Get rid of him. Hall of Fame trash talk, Practice Squad Game.
monosylab1k
01-17-2008, 02:10 PM
he'll still be around. With T.O. a year older and Terry Glenn never a guarantee to stay healthy, they can't afford to lose a guy like Crayton. As shitty a player as he is, he's a decent 3rd WR.
Now, if Sam Hurd and Miles Austin continue their improvement this offseason, then fuck Crayton. I always liked both of those guys better than him.
DisgruntledLionFan#54,927
01-17-2008, 02:12 PM
Deal him? Didn't they just re-sign him a few weeks ago? I'd imagine, no idea of his contract numbers, the cap hit wouldn't be too kind.
I don't think they can do that since they just re-signed him.
dougp
01-17-2008, 02:34 PM
I don't think they can do that since they just re-signed him.
I didn't think that any contract was guaranteed in the NFL? Anyways, they could also trade him ... it just seems like he hasn't really been doing much this year, because he was our "only" second option because T.Glenn was out.
Viva Las Espuelas
01-17-2008, 03:28 PM
with the exception of this past sunday he has the best hands of our receivers.
I didn't think that any contract was guaranteed in the NFL? Anyways, they could also trade him ... it just seems like he hasn't really been doing much this year, because he was our "only" second option because T.Glenn was out.
Signing bonus is guareteed and signing bonuses are generaly spread out over the contract and they accelerate into one lump payment that counts against he cap if someone is traded or cut.
So..if Patrick has a base salary of 500k and he gets a 9million signing bonus thats spread out over 4 years...
I THINK its a minimum charge of 9.5 million against the cap for that year and then you tack on penalties. So its better to trade people later into their contract.
***I am not sure what he got by the way and I am too lazy to look it up, I just made up those numbers to make a point***
Yes, he'll be in Dallas. He's signed long term, and is a very good #3 WR.
MajorMike
01-17-2008, 04:02 PM
Is there a 'who gives a flying flip' for the poll?
dallaskd
01-17-2008, 04:03 PM
He's staying. J Jones is the one that's gone.
BacktoBasics
01-17-2008, 04:04 PM
He'll be around and even though he had a rough game he's still better than a gamble on a 4th or 5th round pick, which is basically what you could get for him if even that.
Patrick just had one bad game. Release him and the line forms to the left for teams to pick him up.
macdude06
01-17-2008, 05:49 PM
didnt dallas just sign him to like a 4 year 14.6 million dollar deal??
im sure he is staying
I like Patrick. He has a loud mouth but he is solid. He seems like a very smart guy though, I am sure he will take something out of that bad game.
Mr.Bottomtooth
01-17-2008, 07:19 PM
He's staying.
exstatic
01-17-2008, 08:12 PM
Get rid of him. Hall of Fame trash talk, Practice Squad Game.
+1
Holmes_Fans
01-17-2008, 08:17 PM
I think he makes those catches if Terry Glenn is still hurt. For the first time all season he wasn't getting %100 of the #2 slot playing time. He was going in and out with Terry Glenn. When you have a certain rotation for so many games, it screws up your game when you get thrown out of it. They need to use the 2nd or 3rd round pick for a WR after getting a RB and safety/corner
dougp
01-17-2008, 08:26 PM
I think he makes those catches if Terry Glenn is still hurt. For the first time all season he wasn't getting %100 of the #2 slot playing time. He was going in and out with Terry Glenn. When you have a certain rotation for so many games, it screws up your game when you get thrown out of it. They need to use the 2nd or 3rd round pick for a WR after getting a RB and safety/cornerUh, why do we need a RB? We have two, and one of them is the best 4th down back in the league.
I won't deny that we need a safety - we should look into using our 1st round pick from the Browns for that - or trade our two 1st rounders to go higher.
And this isn't the first game that Crayton has screwed up in - and his loud mouth gets annoying. TO may talk, but at least he backs it up ...
:lmao 3rd option WR's who choke in big games are a dime a dozen in the NFL. Reche Caldwell says hi. So does Brandon Stokely. Michael Clayton offers greetings as well.
He would be the 2nd WR on most teams and first option on lower teams.
To say he chokes in big games based on one playoff game is simply stupid.
monosylab1k
01-17-2008, 08:37 PM
Uh, why do we need a RB? We have two, and one of them is the best 4th down back in the league.
You're really satisfied with the big bag of nothing that Julius Jones brings to the table? And Barber just can't handle a full-time load.
Dallas needs to spend one of their 1st rounders on a RB for sure - preferably Felix Jones from Arkansas.
The other 1st rounder needs to be a cornerback, IMO. Unless he's Sean Taylor or Ed Reed version 2.0, safeties just aren't worth spending a 1st round pick on.
:lol you're fucking retarded. go look at the rosters of most teams and he's a 3rd WR at best everywhere. Probably not even that for some teams. Hell, he wouldn't even make New England's roster and he had the nerve to talk shit about them :lmao
:toast :lol
it's good that you finally agree with me, your take was so goddamn retarded i could hardly believe it when i saw it. :lmao seriously, crayton is a #2 receiver? :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao
So, every team in the NFL has a number 2 guy better than him?
I am not that big of a fan of him but to say he isn't a number 2 guy...... when he has been one all season already.........
Um...........
Witten is a TE........
We are talking about WR's
Not very smart are you?
we're talking options in the passing game. we're talking receivers. you said it yourself.
number 2 guy in the passing game.
is witten an option in the passing game? is witten a receiver?
Not very smart are you?
WR - not TE
I know you just want to argue here so....whatever...you win if it makes you feel better. :lol
dirk4mvp
01-17-2008, 11:29 PM
So, every team in the NFL has a number 2 guy better than him?
yeah, just about.
fyatuk
01-18-2008, 08:45 AM
He'll be here unless the Cowboys get a sweet deal for him, not likely considering his propensity for talk this year and him not really showing up in the last game. Crayton is very effective from the slot, and had a pretty decent year playing as the No. 2 WR.
Plus, he's the only true experience they have at WR after Owens and Glenn. I think there's a better chance Glenn will be gone. And there's only one year left on Owens contract.
The 'Boys need to pick up another young veteran and probably use one of those first round picks on a WR, but that's what's been said for the last couple years.
LEONARD
01-18-2008, 10:05 AM
Crayton isn't going anywhere...they just extended him as has already been pointed out...
we're talking options in the passing game. we're talking receivers. you said it yourself.
number 2 guy in the passing game.
is witten an option in the passing game? is witten a receiver?
Not very smart are you?
Talk about a STRETCH!! :lol
Crayton was the #2 WIDE RECEIVER all season and he had 50/700/7, which isn't bad...and yes, he was the 3rd option in the passing game. Everybody (teammates & coaches) says he has the best hands on the team, so this playoff game was surely just an aboration. He needs to talk a lot less though.
Stick to following boring non-sports like MMA, that suits you much better.
Interesting...
Boxing - Olympic sport
Wrestling - Olympic sport
Judo - Olympic sport
Kickboxing - worldwide sport
BJJ - worldwide sport
Put it all together and you get a non-sport...pure genius Woody... :lol
Harry Callahan
01-18-2008, 10:59 AM
He is not a bad player. He had a bad game. He scored quite a few touchdowns this year (including one against New England).
He will be in the mix next year for sure. Hopefully he will not turn into Brandon Jacobs or Antonio Pierce by running his mouth all the time next year.
My list will be at least 3x larger than yours. easily..
Go for it. List it. Your the one challanging that he isn't a second receiver.
Viva Las Espuelas
01-18-2008, 12:45 PM
He's staying. J Jones is the one that's gone.now that's what the question should be. marion makes plays. julius runs plays. i wish he would just get with a strength coach and grow a pair this off-season.
now that's what the question should be. marion makes plays. julius runs plays. i wish he would just get with a strength coach and grow a pair this off-season.
Jones is gone.
You can easily find a RB with his talent in the draft or fa. I think he wants to be a 1 guy.
Viva Las Espuelas
01-18-2008, 02:29 PM
Jones is gone.
You can easily find a RB with his talent in the draft or fa. I think he wants to be a 1 guy.i wouldn't mind seeing him lumped in with our first round draft picks for a shot at mcfadden.
LEONARD
01-18-2008, 04:02 PM
How about this. you name me every team where Crayton would be the second best receiver on the team, and i'll name every team where he wouldn't. My list will be at least 3x larger than yours. easily.
the luge and curling are olympic sports too, but nobody is going to take "EXTREME LUGE CURLING" seriously, and they shouldn't. and if the asshat from Fear Factor is involved, it's not a sport. sorry.
:lol
WOW...
So Joe Rogan being a commentator immediately makes it a non-sport in your eyes? Interesting bit, dude...
i wouldn't mind seeing him lumped in with our first round draft picks for a shot at mcfadden.
From my understanding he is a unrestricted free agent so that would be possible.
LEONARD
01-18-2008, 04:09 PM
How about this. you name me every team where Crayton would be the second best receiver on the team, and i'll name every team where he wouldn't. My list will be at least 3x larger than yours. easily.
Titans
Texans
Ravens
Browns
Jags
Bills
Dolphins
Broncos
Chiefs
Raiders
49ers
Redskins
Eagles
Bucs
Panthers
Falcons
Vikings
LEONARD
01-18-2008, 05:20 PM
You're still including TE's...
Reggie Brown
Kevin Walter
Wilford
Curtis
Hilliard
:lol
Done with ya, Woody...
Viva Las Espuelas
01-18-2008, 05:29 PM
From my understanding he is a unrestricted free agent so that would be possible.jerry jones is a very shrewd businessman. just ask the residents of arlington
DaHorns
01-20-2008, 12:36 PM
I think with the emergence of Herd and Austin as well as Glenn and TO, Crayton (who IMHO is a good reciever) is expendable. Put him on the trade block, should be able to get something for him. I really thought he was going to have a breakout season, but his mouth and his hands held him back.
bigdog
01-21-2008, 10:45 PM
I think Crayton will stay in Dallas, because of the fact that he was given a contract extension. He was one of the team's leading recievers, and without his production this offense wouldn't have been where it was for most of the season. I think Sam Hurd has improved tremendously, and will only continue to get better, and I really think we have a diamond in the rough with Miles Austin, so if for some crazy reason Crayton was traded, we would still have a solid group of WR.
As for Julius Jones, I think it's very likely he is gone. Do you really think they are going to resign both Barber and Jones? Hell no. Barber is going to get big bucks, and Jones will probably be a starter on another team. I think there's guys in the draft that we can get. I think 1st round should be a safety or corner, and 2nd round should be RB. I think a guy like Ray Rice from Rutgers would compliment Barber very well. He is very quick, and I think he is tremendously underrated. He might be undersized, but that doesn't mean he can't produce. He has been one of the top RB's in college football the past couple of seasons, and I think he will be a solid pro. There is a chance that Jones will stay, but I highly doubt it. I really don't see Jerry Jones resigning the guy that started every regular season game this year for backup money. Barber absolutely shredded this year, and he will get a very nice gift because of that.Julius Jones has the talent to be a very good player in this league, but he constantly messes up, and I think a change of scenery will help him out a bit.
mardigan
01-22-2008, 01:57 PM
So what was Jason Witten doing all season long? Apparently not catching passes since TE's aren't receivers, right?
And all those guys are better than Crayton, and it's not even close. Especially Kevin Curtis.
Doesnt matter, they are different positions. Its like trying to compare teams cornerbacks and then bringing up their safties.
As far as Curtis being better, he had 400 more yards and 1 less td being his teams first option compared to Crayton being the 3rd.
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